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(AZCentral)   NTSB blaming a 2010 helicopter crash on a 5 year old girl   ( divider line
    More: Strange, National Transportation Safety Board, Cave Creek, plane crashes, Transportation Safety Board, helicopters  
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18385 clicks; posted to Main » on 11 Nov 2012 at 3:29 AM (4 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2012-11-11 12:21:44 AM  
9 votes:

Disaster girl is getting a real innocent kick out of this thread.
2012-11-10 11:44:11 PM  
4 votes:
The real question is: Did she like gladiator movies?
2012-11-11 11:17:19 PM  
1 vote:

Farklee: At least they died doing what they loved to do......

They loved impacting a lake at 100 mph in a twisted ball of metal?
2012-11-11 11:37:37 AM  
1 vote:

PiperArrow: The NTSB's job is to find the probable cause, to help improve safety. Their job is not to be a fact finder for trial, or to consider the feelings of the families of the dead. Their job is to protect the lives of the living. If the only plausible explanation is that the kid did it, then they should say so.

And yet, it certainly seems in this case, their decision will certainly be used in trial.

Could they be wrong? Sure. But companies and regulators need the best information possible to correct any faults in aircraft, pilot training, or the air traffic system. If the NTSB withheld their opinion out of a sense of fairness to the family or the girl's memory, some pilot down the road might repeat the tragic mistake.

It still seems irresponsible for pilots, passengers, and companies to assign causes when you cannot legitimately, scientifically, cannot find one.

How is aviation advanced here by a statement that they believe the girl stepped on the collective more than a statement that the NTSB believes a control input on the collective for an unknown reason caused the crash?

Indeed, all those times they find pilot error when it was almost certainly not pilot error, how does that help anyone? Seems much more likely to hurt aviation as a whole.
2012-11-11 05:57:45 AM  
1 vote:

the801: Either Stewart or his pilot then quickly pulled up on the controls, causing the helicopter's main blades to bend and strike the aircraft's tail, the report said.

how is this even possible? it's like designing a car where braking too hard can cause the wheels to shatter the gas tank while simultaneously emitting showers of sparks.

Aren't most Fords designed to do that?
2012-11-11 05:11:52 AM  
1 vote:
My ability to rationally process the article was interrupted by the headline at the bottom telling me Jenny McCarthy farked a tree.
2012-11-11 04:58:15 AM  
1 vote:
I just remote-viewed the helicopter at the time of the crash and it turns out the father actually was the one who hit the collective with his knee. Woops.
2012-11-11 01:05:43 AM  
1 vote:
Man, some people are pedantic.

/but are they shallow?
2012-11-10 09:51:02 PM  
1 vote:
Thus proving fidgety little brats on flights are a big problem.
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