ToxicMunkee: Bathia_Mapes: The blame should really go to her father for allowing her to be on his lap while flying the helicopter.I agree.
ElizaDoolittle: Ouch. I guess your friend was beyond caring, if that's any consolation. Did the funeral home charge extra for the weights? I'll bet they did.
Bathia_Mapes: The blame should really go to her father for allowing her to be on his lap while flying the helicopter.
RoyBatty: I do find it interesting that the NTSB report seems to make no mention of a blade being repaired.
RoyBatty: NTSB: "The most probable scenario to explain what caused the yellow blade to be in a position to strike the tail rotor drive shaft was that all of the main rotor blades were following a path that would have intersected the tail rotor drive shaft as a result of an abrupt and unusual control input. Further, witness marks that were on the tops of the blade cuffs likely occurred during the accident flight."So the NTSB seems to be saying they had multiple scenarios, but they believe (it's not clear how they determined most probable scenario, was that a scientific conclusion based on probabilities, or an expert's judgment?) the most likely scenario is this one.The family and mechanics seem to think it was a blade failure in a repaired blade.It may be of more interest to aviation to wary of using repaired blades than of keeping your kids off your lap.I do find it interesting that the NTSB report seems to make no mention of a blade being repaired. I am pretty sure way back in 2010 when the accident occurred, the paper was reporting the blade repairs even then.
ransack.: That helicopter doesn't have any blades...
RoyBatty: How is aviation advanced here by a statement that they believe the girl stepped on the collective more than a statement that the NTSB believes a control input on the collective for an unknown reason caused the crash?
BronyMedic: Aha. So it comes out. That report is an inconvenience in their little lawsuit against Eurocopter America.
RoyBatty: If there is no eye witness that the girl ever kicked the collective in the past, I find it difficult for them to blame the crash on the kid. The statement it is "highly likely" seems outrageous. If they want to state their theory of unknown collective input, that's one thing, to go from there to kid must've done it, seems gross.It also seems irresponsible to have a government agency make that statement with such little evidence when there are pending lawsuits.
RoyBatty: They literally have no evidence the girl kicked, or fell, or in anyway came in contact with the collective."It was "highly likely" that the child suddenly pushed down with her foot on the copter's controls, according to the Nov.7 report."There is no evidence the girl was involved at all. They believe a rapid down and then up movement of the collective could cause the damage they found in the rotor. It is complete speculation as to what caused that rapid up and down movement of the collective.
Hector Remarkable: Oh, well. It's probably funny in non-linear time too. They're basically saying the little girl is responsible for five tragic deaths. It's just...ridiculous.
Hector Remarkable: BronyMedic: Hector Remarkable: ElizaDoolittle: Hector Remarkable: The way I read the NTSB report, it seems to me this 5 year-old girl was probably plotting this for months, if not years. She was obviously a murderous, callous little girl who got tired of torturing garden ducks and was moving on to the big time. It's all in the report. She had mapped out the plan in crayon - a "slip" of the sippy cup and then - jump, bam, kill them all. Oh, she was a heinous sort. With her little kiddie plot for murther and her devious after-plan to ruin EuroCopter. Ah-ha-ha-ha! Ah-ha-ha-ha! She's laughing at us all now. From Hell.I know this is meant to be satire. Fail.Well, more mockery I'd say, but everyone's a critic.Too soon, man. Too soon. You gotta wait 22.5 years, then it's funny.Oh, well. It's probably funny in non-linear time too. They're basically saying the little girl is responsible for five tragic deaths. It's just...ridiculous.
Lsherm: ElizaDoolittle: Ouch. I guess your friend was beyond caring, if that's any consolation. Did the funeral home charge extra for the weights? I'll bet they did.And just for the record: way to be a dick, asshole.
davidphogan: Not every religion allows cremation. I'd assume the weights are there for a symbolic reason.
Lsherm: Another uncomfortable thing I learned about that plane crash: they put lead or steel weights in the coffin to fake the weight of a burned corpse. When we lifted his coffin at the funeral one of them fell over and the funeral director told me afterward that the bump I head was probably that.
quatchi: [i0.kym-cdn.com image 500x375]Disaster girl is getting a real innocent kick out of this thread.
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