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2012-11-10 11:20:41 PM
20 votes:
The South still remains painfully, hopelessly stupid.
2012-11-10 09:46:03 PM
14 votes:
Fish are satanic?

files.abovetopsecret.com

Hmmm.
2012-11-10 07:21:14 PM
11 votes:
If someone was going to paint a giant mural in front of my house I'd like to have some input on what it will look like. I'm kinda siding with the religious wackos on this one.
2012-11-10 07:53:52 PM
10 votes:
media.cmgdigital.com

vs.

sasoc.files.wordpress.com

It's all a matter of scale.
2012-11-11 12:41:45 AM
9 votes:
It was a pretty ugly mural that seems to have been put up without full permission on property not owned by the city.

translation: pretentious art dbags decided to spread their "vision" in a place they had no right to be. Not every wall needs a mural.
2012-11-11 12:42:00 AM
7 votes:
That was dumb. They should have painted over it because it was ugly.
2012-11-11 12:32:46 AM
7 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: The South still remains painfully, hopelessly stupid.


It's Atlanta. Sherman had the right idea.

/plus their traffic sucks!
2012-11-11 12:52:55 AM
6 votes:
Not to dredge up the politics tab, I'd like to thank the fundies for dragging religious nonsense back into the public's eye and spreading it like lice.

It's the 21st century. At first I was like 'where is my flying car' but now I'd settle for 'Hey, remember the time when we weren't swimming in religious idiocy'
2012-11-11 03:20:15 AM
5 votes:
spacebison.com
2012-11-11 01:14:53 AM
5 votes:

KrispyKritter: I_Hate_Iowa: Whenever I read something like this - "The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic" - I can't believe Christians are still somehow considered less mentally ill than someone with schizophrenia.

less mentally ill than someone who believes all members of a given group are identical in their thoughts, words or actions?


Christianity: The belief that a god became man through virgin birth, resurrected after death, and ascended from the Earth into some other realm, and it's all based on the writings of people who had an exceedingly limited understanding of the natural world. I can understand their contemporaries buying it, but now? Which religion one follows is mostly dependent on place of birth, and other religions are considered incorrect based on circular logic. Yep, the group sounds pretty deluded as a whole.
2012-11-11 12:51:31 AM
5 votes:

Great Janitor: What about those Snake Worshiping Christians?


Christians who handle snakes don't worship them. They do that because there's scripture that says true believers will not be harmed by the venom of snakes.

They die regularly from this misconception, but they don't worship snakes.
2012-11-11 12:46:14 AM
5 votes:
Gyrfalcon

"Well, whether or not the residents had input is one thing. Painting over a mural because you think it is "satanic" is something else entirely. I note that in this case the residents are NOT complaining because the thing was ugly or that it doesn't meet standards; they are upset because it was "satanic" and that's not a valid reason to just up and paint over something."

The use of "satanic" is from a guy that was part of the group that put up the mural. None of the residents are quotes using that word
2012-11-11 12:39:49 AM
5 votes:

phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.



If anyone deserves to be slapped silly, tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail, it's the evilangelical "Christians" who would just love to bring out a modern version of the Spanish inquisition. Their first priority whenever one of their own wins an election is to try and shut down the public library.
2012-11-11 12:35:09 AM
5 votes:

phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.


Really hoping that you didn't type that with a straight face.

11/10, man. That's beautiful, beautiful trolling.
2012-11-11 12:42:05 AM
4 votes:
I hope someone is going to get in trouble for vandalising the public art work (I have no doubt they have all bragged about their exploits on FB.)
2012-11-11 12:40:34 AM
4 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: If someone was going to paint a giant mural in front of my house I'd like to have some input on what it will look like. I'm kinda siding with the religious wackos on this one.


Well, whether or not the residents had input is one thing. Painting over a mural because you think it is "satanic" is something else entirely. I note that in this case the residents are NOT complaining because the thing was ugly or that it doesn't meet standards; they are upset because it was "satanic" and that's not a valid reason to just up and paint over something.
2012-11-11 12:37:57 AM
4 votes:
Fish are satanic. Scales are satanic. Got it and couldn't agree more. You know what tips the scales more than fish? Fat people. And you know what region of the country has the highest rates of obesity? The South. Therefore, Southerners are satanic.
2012-11-11 08:32:47 AM
3 votes:
Haven't read the thread all the way though, but I wanted to skim and make sure we had plenty of people lumping the entire southern US in with these people. Because like the rest of you, everyone here is in 100% agreement with what our neighbors do. And I'd hate for you all to miss out on an opportunity to feel superior to someone else. And I'm certainly unaware of the irony of me painting the entire region with a broad brush, while at the same time accusing them of being closed-minded.

But one comment in particular has stood out to me:

bostonowns: if anyone tries to defend the south in any way just point out to them that:
bible belt states lead the US in highschool drop outs, underage pregnancy, lowest insured, per capita highest welfare rates, and most obese. so we have fat, dumb, sick people milking the system and dying while they scream it's the liberals fault!


You're right. Kind of. All of the statistics you've dragged out are direct or indirect results from poverty, which is indeed leading in the south. But ...so? What does that have to do these idiots hating on the mural? Did you find some bizarre piece of data that associates poverty with a distrust of snakes? Or are you trying to correlate religion with paucity? Because I'm fairly certain I could find one or two people that would object to your misunderstanding of correlation and causation.

Or was this just your way of adding salt to the wound? "Some idiots down there disliked a mural for stupid reasons! And they have poor people too! Haha!" Clarify for me, please.

And judging from your username I'm going to operate under the assumption that you're living in Massachusetts. Now I could be a dick and point out your state's failings and bring them up any time some idiot in Boston runs his mouth - like your state's staggeringly high homelessness rate(#6 in the nation, despite only having 2% of the country's population), your state's crackdown on personal freedoms, your state's strangely high cost of living, or that whole electing-Romney-governor thing.

But I'm not going to do all that. Because I don't want to be the asshole that brings up wildly unrelated bullsh*t while lumping an entire region of millions of people that may or may not disagree with what some idiots are doing in their neighborhood.

Spend a little less time on that high horse, or every time you go by all anyone's going to see is a horse's ass.
2012-11-11 01:20:43 AM
3 votes:

Coming on a Bicycle: Some people lack the right amount of reference to distinguish between words for what they don't like (or like); they've simply grown up to classifiy things only within the bounds of their religion. Therefore, when they say something is 'satanic', they may well mean that they really think it's 'ugly' - they just don't have the word for it.


Reminds me of people who call everything they oppose politically "socialist" or "communist"
2012-11-11 01:15:46 AM
3 votes:

Okie_Gunslinger: Yeah, in the same way that stepping on a bug is murder.....


Both these people and the Taliban destroyed pieces of art because the art offended their bugfark crazy religious beliefs. The only scale involved is the relative merit of the Buddhas the Taliban destroyed vs. this artist's mural.

Oh and that the people in Atlanta used paint instead of explosives. But it's the same act done for the same reasons.
2012-11-11 01:05:25 AM
3 votes:
Its too bad the mural didn't depict the ritualistic torture and murder of a human being, carried out as some kind of archaic pagan sacrafice to assuage the bloodlust of a vengeful and hate filled deity - I hear Christians really get off on that shiat...
2012-11-11 12:58:45 AM
3 votes:

peasandcarrots: You know, at this point I'm just going to make a list of random things that are "satanic," find a Bible verse to justify it, and just go through the South accusing every God-botherer I can find of being in league with the Devil. Grits? Satanic! Pickup trucks? The devil's transport! Fish stickers? The mark of the Prince of Lies himself!


If you have a bucket list, I advise you to knock it out before you set off on this mission.
2012-11-11 12:51:29 AM
3 votes:

Great Janitor: So...if Snakes are satanic, what about Doctors who's emblem is a pole with two snakes wrapped around it? What about those Snake Worshiping Christians?

If it is a reference to the part in the Bible where the Serpent gets Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, then they may be doing the wrong thing. From what I understand, when the Serpent tempted Eve, it wasn't snake-like. It didn't become snake like until God punished it for it's role in the temptation of Eve. Even the Bible mentions this part where God is cursing the Serpent telling it that it will forever crawl on it's belly, to be stepped on by man's boot (before man actually invented the boot...go figure), so, follow this logic, and you'll see that the snake is actually God's creation, so to paint over it might actually be insulting God.


Actually the snakes on a pole is from the part of the Bible where God healed the Israelites by having them look at the snake on a pole that Moses was holding up. The snakes bit the people because of their unbelief.
2012-11-11 12:50:18 AM
3 votes:
Whenever I read something like this - "The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic" - I can't believe Christians are still somehow considered less mentally ill than someone with schizophrenia.
2012-11-11 12:49:26 AM
3 votes:
brian.carnell.com

I want one of these for my car
2012-11-11 12:48:13 AM
3 votes:
So...if Snakes are satanic, what about Doctors who's emblem is a pole with two snakes wrapped around it? What about those Snake Worshiping Christians?

If it is a reference to the part in the Bible where the Serpent gets Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, then they may be doing the wrong thing. From what I understand, when the Serpent tempted Eve, it wasn't snake-like. It didn't become snake like until God punished it for it's role in the temptation of Eve. Even the Bible mentions this part where God is cursing the Serpent telling it that it will forever crawl on it's belly, to be stepped on by man's boot (before man actually invented the boot...go figure), so, follow this logic, and you'll see that the snake is actually God's creation, so to paint over it might actually be insulting God.
2012-11-11 12:45:51 AM
3 votes:
If they think that snakes are satanic, they must really hate doctors.
2012-11-11 12:37:25 AM
3 votes:
This is worse than 9/11
2012-11-11 12:33:12 AM
3 votes:
God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.
2012-11-11 06:04:41 AM
2 votes:

skinink: Well, the artist does a lot of unusual pieces. I just think it's ugly but I wouldn't go as far as to deface it myself.


That's the issue - sure, if you don't like the mural, object. In this case, they would have won easily, since the proper permit hadn't been obtained.
Instead, they snuck in the night and vandalized it. In doing so, they lost any sympathy from me - now they just look ignorant.
2012-11-11 05:23:17 AM
2 votes:

fluffy2097: Good. Now we can have some proper graffiti on that wall.

Maybe a giant, poorly drawn penis as the centerpeice, surrounded by shiatty 'gang' tags, with some swastikas because they're cool.


I'd rather go with this instead.

grofty.com
2012-11-11 02:37:16 AM
2 votes:
It's their farking neighborhood. If they don't like it, for whatever reason, they shouldn't have to live with it.

Oh, and by the way... The people who painted over it didn't say they did so because they thought it was satanic. Some person named Angel Poventud said that was their reason, but who the hell is Angel Poventud? No, seriously, who is Angel Poventud? The article quotes him but doesn't say anything about his relationship to the story.

Anyway. The painting is ugly. Who the hell is Living Walls to commission giant murals in other people's neighborhoods? I'll bet there are plenty of people in that neighborhood who could paint a really cool mural if they were asked to.

Living Walls sounds like a bunch of busybodies who think their taste is superior to everyone else's, and that they are doing everyone a favor if they commission ugly POS paintings in other people's neighborhoods without asking permission or seeking input.
2012-11-11 02:35:20 AM
2 votes:
BTW Genesis never says what the snake in the garden is, or who. The first mention of the devil comes way way later. And he's not particularly much to worry about either, just deals in temptation. Can't actually make anyone do anything nor is the cause of all that is wrong in the world.
2012-11-11 01:22:34 AM
2 votes:
media.drunkenfist.com

The only "art" people like this deserve.
2012-11-11 01:16:41 AM
2 votes:

KrispyKritter: I_Hate_Iowa: Whenever I read something like this - "The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic" - I can't believe Christians are still somehow considered less mentally ill than someone with schizophrenia.

less mentally ill than someone who believes all members of a given group are identical in their thoughts, words or actions?


All Christians believe pretty much one thing right? They believe that a perfect half-man son of a deity who is all knowing all loving and all powerful died and suffered to forgive all of humanity for all of time for all of their transgressions and that if you don't accept this then you'll be forever tormented and punished by this same "all-loving" deity.

Yes. I don't think believing ALL MEMBERS of this group are crazy is all that bad of a thing.
2012-11-11 01:01:16 AM
2 votes:

I_Hate_Iowa: Whenever I read something like this - "The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic" - I can't believe Christians are still somehow considered less mentally ill than someone with schizophrenia.


less mentally ill than someone who believes all members of a given group are identical in their thoughts, words or actions?
2012-11-11 12:59:53 AM
2 votes:

markie_farkie: Fish are satanic?

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 508x212]

Hmmm.


Most symbols that people use have a story behind them and are used to make a statement. Some of the most famous are the so-called Christian symbols such as the cross and the fish. Whilst they provide a useful mean of identification, all of these are carnal and nowadays used promiscuously by everybody, thus it is best for us to avoid using them. Moreover they all have a precedent story of paganism, a thing we Christian must avoid, even if some says the pagan origins have now been lost in history. The wearing or keeping such symbols has the tendency to bring veneration to them and thus returning to paganism. Besides, what saith the Word of God: God is a spirit, and the ones worshiping Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)

What are we to do with all these "Christian" symbols that have pagan (satanic) roots? Absolutely nothing. And what agreement does Christ have with Belial? Or what part does a believer have with an unbeliever? (2 Corinthians 6:15)

A godly man once said about people wearing a cross hanging from the neck: "we ought to hang on the cross ourselves rather than the cross hanging from our necks".

Another one said: "when in doubt, leave it out".

Whether or not these pagan symbols have lost their original pagan meanings in our modern era (a doubtful situation) it is best not to be involved with them, we do not need them. Moreover, another secure test is to see what the world does with them: if the world loves them, then they are not godly for the world hates anything from God, and our stern warning is this: Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him, (1 John 2:15)

Therefore a Christian that worships God in Spirit and in Truth has no need to make a physical point for his belief and should not wear any jewellery AT ALL, or make use of symbols, whether he knows if they are Pagan or not. Besides the second commandment forbids the flaunting of such things.

The faith of a Christian will be known by ALL if he puts into practice the word of his Master, Jesus Christ: 34 I give a new commandment to you, that you should love one another; according as I loved you, you should also love one another. 35 By this all shall know that you are My disciples, if you have love among one another. (John 13:34-35)
2012-11-11 12:55:35 AM
2 votes:
You know, at this point I'm just going to make a list of random things that are "satanic," find a Bible verse to justify it, and just go through the South accusing every God-botherer I can find of being in league with the Devil. Grits? Satanic! Pickup trucks? The devil's transport! Fish stickers? The mark of the Prince of Lies himself!
2012-11-11 12:44:16 AM
2 votes:
The South - sheesh, they're dumber than dirt, no lie.
2012-11-11 02:59:53 PM
1 votes:

Old enough to know better: [media.drunkenfist.com image 500x277]

The only "art" people like this deserve.


Uhh, the artist in question IS a tagger. Yes drab washed-out palette steam-punkish Victorian birdcage themed murals, but a tagger nonetheless.
2012-11-11 01:33:04 PM
1 votes:

SquiggsIN: SwiftFox: I think your biblical timeline is off. Before Noah the rule was that all the animals god made were man's to consume. Well, I'm not sure the exact wording includes mammals, that's questionable.

According to those young Earthers at the creation museum before Adam's "fall" all plants and animals were in perfect harmony and balance with each other and no life form was destroyed by any other. I guess spiders ate clovers and lions and daffodils or something. Oh... and cavemen rode vegetarian velociraptors to the market.


Doesn't matter. Between Adam and Noah there was a time when men of renown did impressive things. One of them would have had to be had to be breeding domesticated dogs, cattle, goats, sheep, horses - well, whatever of those animals Noah was supposed to keep multiple pairs of because they were domesticated animals - out of wolves, aurochs, wild goats, etc.
2012-11-11 12:04:32 PM
1 votes:
I don't know, I kind of dig it actually. I find it curious and thought provoking. I like when art isn't immediately obvious, when you can come back time and again and see something new. I like that the colors are subdued and not bright and garish, I would hate to have to live near a neon barfed explosion of simplistic colors and juvenile design.

But this I can get behind. 

Pre-painted over version

I also think its a shame the article only shows the post vandalism version, as it makes the piece look shiattier.
2012-11-11 09:26:39 AM
1 votes:
The French artist didn't understand his target audience.

If he had done some sort of urban art that looked as if it was done by a sixth grader, using the colors red, yellow and green, and included a picture of a bible somewhere, it would have been well accepted.
2012-11-11 09:21:54 AM
1 votes:

Sudlow: It was a pretty ugly mural that seems to have been put up without full permission on property not owned by the city.

translation: pretentious art dbags decided to spread their "vision" in a place they had no right to be. Not every wall needs a mural.


You are an idiot. I live in the neighborhood. What the so-called community leaders did was closer to graffiti than what was originally done. At least the original artist had gotten some sort of permission.
2012-11-11 09:04:51 AM
1 votes:
Atlanta you say?

Maybe they would have been happier with something like 

i.imgur.com
2012-11-11 08:28:42 AM
1 votes:
"Art" is not sacred. If you don't like it, feel free to paint over it.
2012-11-11 08:09:54 AM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: PC LOAD LETTER: The South still remains painfully, hopelessly stupid.

It's Atlanta. Sherman had the right idea.

/plus their traffic sucks!


i.qkme.me
2012-11-11 05:52:28 AM
1 votes:

TheJoe03: fluffy2097: Good. Now we can have some proper graffiti on that wall.

Maybe a giant, poorly drawn penis as the centerpeice, surrounded by shiatty 'gang' tags, with some swastikas because they're cool.

I'd rather go with this instead.

[grofty.com image 800x600]


They do not deserve art like that.

They clearly want poorly drawn phalluses. Why else would they give the local teens a huge blank wall to spray paint?
2012-11-11 05:05:31 AM
1 votes:
Good. Now we can have some proper graffiti on that wall.

Maybe a giant, poorly drawn penis as the centerpeice, surrounded by shiatty 'gang' tags, with some swastikas because they're cool.
2012-11-11 04:12:52 AM
1 votes:

Jarhead_h: blah blah blah


home.comcast.net

/Not mine.
2012-11-11 03:56:00 AM
1 votes:
Blech, that needed painting over. Why didn't they hire a local artist to paint something locally meaningful or historic on the wall? That wouldn't get painted over no matter how ugly it is.
2012-11-11 03:25:29 AM
1 votes:
Ends justify the means in this case, that mural was horrible. Get some good graffiti artists on the case and this whole thing is solved, maybe paint something over it that is more positive or something that fits the area better. Just because the guy's French doesn't mean he's a good artist and you don't have to be religious to think that mural was ugly as hell.

/Speaking of snakes, there's an ugly statue in downtown San Jose of a snake coiled up and it looks like a turd. Get rid of that garbage too.
//I love art but I hate ugly public artwork.
2012-11-11 03:18:54 AM
1 votes:

Coelacanth: When I was working at the Bellagio, we had some casino porters who got upset about Satanic exhibits in the art gallery there.

They thought the Russian exhibit with the Faberge Eggs was the work of the Devil.


Satanic? They worked at a farking casino! Grabbing up the filthy lucre from gamblers, boozers and hookers, and they're offended by Easter eggs?!?!
2012-11-11 03:03:41 AM
1 votes:
i45.tinypic.com 

"But, but, but the CHILDREN!!!"

Fark your children.
2012-11-11 02:52:44 AM
1 votes:
if anyone tries to defend the south in any way just point out to them that:
bible belt states lead the US in highschool drop outs, underage pregnancy, lowest insured, per capita highest welfare rates, and most obese. so we have fat, dumb, sick people milking the system and dying while they scream it's the liberals fault!
2012-11-11 02:48:00 AM
1 votes:

SearchN: Chuck Ruffcorn: SearchN: FTA:

and now there are questions about whether the art met city requirements in the first place.

Angel Poventud wasn't surprised when he heard a group of community leaders from the Pittsburgh community painted over the mural on University Avenue.

"The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic. You know, they just don't feel that it represents their community," he told Viteri

The Living Walls director showed Viteri the application signed by three city of Atlanta departments approving the work. The group didn't realize City Council needed to pass an ordinance authorizing the public art. Councilmembers Cleta Winslow and Joyce Sheperd said they're working to clarify the process after receiving dozens of calls from neighbors about the mural.


GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up.


But hey, it has to be those fundie Christians right?

Not like a permit was not completed by the Councilmembers claiming the residents had no right to cover up something put up without permits.

Not like the quote about the satanic thing came from someone that seems to be into pushing as many buttons as he can or anything.

Yup. Christians.

/Not Christian.


So, you're saying it was council members that marched down there and painted over it in the name of Jesus?

No. But if you would like me to clarify it:

3 Council members (of what appears to be 16) agreed to have it put up. They did not complete the correct permits to get the sign off on it. At no point is a single person from the paint over group (who even mentions they were Christians in the first place?) interviewed, and the quotes that are attributed to 'satanic' imagery are being brought up by a supporter of the mural.

Does that clear it up for you?


Yeah, man, I get all that, thanks. I have no doubt some kind of permit problem exists; "there's always something." But it sounds like Living Walls made a good faith effort to get approval. But why argue that anyway? If it's a permit problem you go to the law. That's not what we're talking about. We're not here because there's a permit issue; those are boring. We're here because a small group of extremists, painted over something they didn't like.
2012-11-11 02:33:38 AM
1 votes:
The thing sucked donkey d**ks! It was drab, ugly and depressing.

However, no one had the right to paint it over. Satanic? No. Somewhat disturbing and depressing? Yes. The theme plus the colors actually pulled down the area. I would have put something a bit brighter and more cheerful there.

The fish appear to be Snakeheads. From what I can tell, there appears to be a human form there nearly skeletal in appearance. Over all, well rendered, but, IMO, depressing.

The Professional Artist, took his time, which is no doubt valuable, to create, probably for free, the mural. A better course would have been to start a dialogue with City Hall and the sponsors, to see if the artist could go back and cheer the thing up with some nicer colors.

I am impressed, though, with how the other neighbors responded by going out in force and carefully cleaning off the obscuring paint.
2012-11-11 02:29:00 AM
1 votes:
Buncha farking, pin-headed, mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, god-bothering, dumbshiat, cracker-croakers.
2012-11-11 02:07:26 AM
1 votes:

drongozone: I don't like "The Scream." It's butt-ugly. So I am going to go to MOMA in NYC where it is currently on exhibit, pay extra to see it, and douse it in spray-can paint.
I don't like the Ny Times--it's way too liberal--and, just maybe, un-Godly. I will take a ball bat to their street boxes and spray Jesus Rules, OK? on their HQ.
I think disco music is Satanic. I have an idea--at a Major League Baseball game in Chicago we'll burn disco rekkids at second base and cause a riot that cancels the game.
To each, his own.


So you would be ok with me painting anything I want on the sidewalk in front of your house? Your sidewalk is my canvas according to igoted bcomments like yours.
2012-11-11 02:02:28 AM
1 votes:
Quick word puzzle:

things we is have this can't nice why
2012-11-11 01:55:37 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: SearchN: FTA:

and now there are questions about whether the art met city requirements in the first place.

Angel Poventud wasn't surprised when he heard a group of community leaders from the Pittsburgh community painted over the mural on University Avenue.

"The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic. You know, they just don't feel that it represents their community," he told Viteri

The Living Walls director showed Viteri the application signed by three city of Atlanta departments approving the work. The group didn't realize City Council needed to pass an ordinance authorizing the public art. Councilmembers Cleta Winslow and Joyce Sheperd said they're working to clarify the process after receiving dozens of calls from neighbors about the mural.


GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up.


But hey, it has to be those fundie Christians right?

Not like a permit was not completed by the Councilmembers claiming the residents had no right to cover up something put up without permits.

Not like the quote about the satanic thing came from someone that seems to be into pushing as many buttons as he can or anything.

Yup. Christians.

/Not Christian.
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david_gaithersburg: SearchN: FTA:

and now there are questions about whether the art met city requirements in the first place.

Angel Poventud wasn't surprised when he heard a group of community leaders from the Pittsburgh community painted over the mural on University Avenue.

"The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic. You know, they just don't feel that it represents their community," he told Viteri

The Living Walls director showed Viteri the application signed by three city of Atlanta departments approving the work. The group didn't realize City Council needed to pass an ordinance authorizing the public art. Councilmembers Cleta Winslow and Joyce Sheperd said they're working to clarify the process after receiving dozens of calls from neighbors about the mural.


GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up.


But hey, it has to be those fundie Christians right?

Not like a permit was not completed by the Councilmembers claiming the residents had no right to cover up something put up without permits.

Not like the quote about the satanic thing came from someone that seems to be into pushing as many buttons as he can or anything.

Yup. Christians.

/Not Christian.
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Thanks for the welcome, I had no idea!

And yes, I know. I have to give subby a +1 here. Hell of a trolltastic headline. Not only did he edit the quote, but he did so in a masterful way. Only reason I bothered to post.. The stupid, it burns.
2012-11-11 01:49:01 AM
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FTA:

and now there are questions about whether the art met city requirements in the first place.

Angel Poventud wasn't surprised when he heard a group of community leaders from the Pittsburgh community painted over the mural on University Avenue.

"The fishes were satanic. The scales were satanic. You know, they just don't feel that it represents their community," he told Viteri


The Living Walls director showed Viteri the application signed by three city of Atlanta departments approving the work. The group didn't realize City Council needed to pass an ordinance authorizing the public art. Councilmembers Cleta Winslow and Joyce Sheperd said they're working to clarify the process after receiving dozens of calls from neighbors about the mural.


GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up.


But hey, it has to be those fundie Christians right?

Not like a permit was not completed by the Councilmembers claiming the residents had no right to cover up something put up without permits.

Not like the quote about the satanic thing came from someone that seems to be into pushing as many buttons as he can or anything.

Yup. Christians.

/Not Christian.
2012-11-11 01:46:41 AM
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tillerman35: ongbok: If they think that snakes are satanic, they must really hate doctors.

Great Janitor: So...if Snakes are satanic, what about Doctors who's emblem is a pole with two snakes wrapped around it?

The Rod of Asclepius and The Staff of Hermes (The Caduceus) pre-date Christianity. The former by about three hundred years, the latter by about three THOUSAND years. However, the latter is somewhat erroneously associated with medicine due to some confusion back in the 1800s.

Since they both originated in Greek mythology, I'd say the Fundies are safe from being considered hypocrites if they dislike doctors due to a snake or two appearing on the occupation's symbol. Safe from being considered morons? That's another story.


In my experience, xtians don't like being told where their beliefs actually originate. Especially when the truth shows just how ridiculous it is to continue perpetuating some of those beliefs.
2012-11-11 01:43:34 AM
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ongbok: If they think that snakes are satanic, they must really hate doctors.


Great Janitor: So...if Snakes are satanic, what about Doctors who's emblem is a pole with two snakes wrapped around it?


The Rod of Asclepius and The Staff of Hermes (The Caduceus) pre-date Christianity. The former by about three hundred years, the latter by about three THOUSAND years. However, the latter is somewhat erroneously associated with medicine due to some confusion back in the 1800s.

Since they both originated in Greek mythology, I'd say the Fundies are safe from being considered hypocrites if they dislike doctors due to a snake or two appearing on the occupation's symbol. Safe from being considered morons? That's another story.
2012-11-11 01:39:43 AM
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NephilimNexus: Ah, the South... how I do not miss thee.


I wish this stuff only happened in the south. There are fundies screaming about being repressed everywhere. This is usually accompanied by them criticizing a supposed lack of adherence the Constitution while enjoying the long-established religious-favoritism toward their beliefs which actually violate said document.

/run-on?
//who cares?
2012-11-11 01:32:52 AM
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Then the fundies are so adamant about foisting their un-christian, ugly ass giant crosses upon us.
2012-11-11 01:32:50 AM
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upload.wikimedia.org

....Clearly.
2012-11-11 01:26:04 AM
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CujoQuarrel: Langdon_777: The Muthaship: Langdon_777: I hope someone is going to get in trouble for vandalising the public art work

Sounds like GDOT ought to press charges against Living Walls, and the frog.

But I have little doubt that Living Walls went through the proper procedures to paint the mural on a public wall (bet there was even public notices letting people have a say, alas none of these vandals got off their butts.)

Doesn't say in the article about public notices. Does say that they didn't have all the permits needed.


If that's the case we have a very crappy council here - it took the dude a month to paint, surely someone saw it going up ... even a parking inspector?
2012-11-11 01:23:55 AM
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Oh, and then there's this.

Another group of volunteers gathered Friday with brushes and detergent and scrubbed much of the paint off with the help of Department of Transportation workers wielding power washers.


Apparently the DOT is somewhat ok with it.
2012-11-11 01:23:24 AM
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Petroleum Oligarch: Coming on a Bicycle: Some people lack the right amount of reference to distinguish between words for what they don't like (or like); they've simply grown up to classifiy things only within the bounds of their religion. Therefore, when they say something is 'satanic', they may well mean that they really think it's 'ugly' - they just don't have the word for it.

Reminds me of people who call everything they oppose politically "socialist" or "communist"


That's pretty much the same group of people isn't it?
2012-11-11 01:23:04 AM
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CujoQuarrel

"Actually only one guy said anything about satanic.
The other people may have painted the thing over because it was butt-ugly.
Maybe the people who have to look at the things (this was the second) should get a say so"

I pointed this out about 30 posts ago and have been enjoying the ignorant pontificating ever since.
2012-11-11 01:21:22 AM
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BlippityBleep: fusillade762: BlippityBleep: heeey, snakes have always gotten an undeserved bad rap. people need to realize that symbolically anthropomorphizing animals shouldn't be taken literally.

Yeah, don't anthropomorphize animals, they hate that.

reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit, is it.


i775.photobucket.com
2012-11-11 01:18:45 AM
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RatMaster999: [brian.carnell.com image 432x237]

I want one of these for my car


I have one of those on my car.
2012-11-11 01:18:22 AM
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dameron: Both these people and the Taliban destroyed pieces of art because the art offended their bugfark crazy religious beliefs.


They didn't even have a permit from the owners of the wall, the neighbors covered up an act of vandalism, Don't denigrate ancient, iconic works of art so cheaply.
2012-11-11 01:15:04 AM
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Coelacanth: When I was working at the Bellagio, we had some casino porters who got upset about Satanic exhibits in the art gallery there.

They thought the Russian exhibit with the Faberge Eggs was the work of the Devil.


The Faberge exhibit was the most amazing thing I've ever experienced. That must have been back in about '04. The gallery at Bellagio is the only thing I make a point of seeing when I go to Las Vegas... that and getting a fattening treat at Gellato, cuz damn.
2012-11-11 01:14:24 AM
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BronyMedic: phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.

Really hoping that you didn't type that with a straight face.

11/10, man. That's beautiful, beautiful trolling.


Looks like Mike_Lowell has some pretty stiff competition now.


BlippityBleep: heeey, snakes have always gotten an undeserved bad rap. people need to realize that symbolically anthropomorphizing animals shouldn't be taken literally.


Yeah, don't anthropomorphize animals, they hate that.
2012-11-11 01:13:45 AM
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ElLoco: Well, clearly, snakes are Satanic... so their hands are kinda tied on that one.


Snakes don't have hands.
2012-11-11 01:11:23 AM
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*scans headline*

i86.photobucket.com
2012-11-11 01:07:39 AM
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Whar cops?!?!?!

Oh right, white people being persecuted, by Satan, defaced the mural...... then no proper permits for the mural to be done in the first place. So its all even brother....

/Damn car driving fish worshipers of Satan. The fish decal makes you a Satan worshiper ya defacing idiots.
//Circumcise your car today by cutting a few inches off the tail pipe.
2012-11-11 01:07:38 AM
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This seems to be the second mural in the past several months commissioned by "Living Walls" in Atlanta that has sparked controversy when the local neighborhood took exception to what was painted.

Maybe this Living Walls group should consult more often with the neighborhood....

Living Walls mural sparks debate

FARK: Parents respond calmly and rationally to public art near school depicting nudity. "The pubic hair is showing and nakedness. It's not necessary." "This is a shortcut from his school. We'll take the long way home"
2012-11-11 01:06:59 AM
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Christians. Can't live with 'em, can't keep lions within the city limits without a ton of red tape. Whaddyagonnado.
2012-11-11 01:06:34 AM
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X-tians are starting to lose influence. So they start pissing off the community at large. It will be nice when X-tians will have to be more careful in the future in the states.

Some of them do real good and some do real harm, like the Muslims. Can't we just replace religion with doing good to one another?
2012-11-11 01:04:20 AM
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Sudlow: Gyrfalcon

"Well, whether or not the residents had input is one thing. Painting over a mural because you think it is "satanic" is something else entirely. I note that in this case the residents are NOT complaining because the thing was ugly or that it doesn't meet standards; they are upset because it was "satanic" and that's not a valid reason to just up and paint over something."

The use of "satanic" is from a guy that was part of the group that put up the mural. None of the residents are quotes using that word



Right. Those community leaders had some extra paint and were just trying to help. The fact it was painted by the devil himself was coincidence.
2012-11-11 12:56:53 AM
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The Muthaship: That was dumb. They should have painted over it because it was ugly.


It was ugly. Look at Dameron 's closeup. I get freaked out by the disembodied human nipples bellybutton hands on the personfishsnake. It's a chimera and could give kids nightmares. And a chimera may as well be satanic although I know the South overuses that term.
2012-11-11 12:55:20 AM
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advex101: It is ugly. I side with the religious d-bags on this one. Also, "GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up."


I'll take "What is censorship" for three hundred, Alex.
2012-11-11 12:54:08 AM
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The Muthaship: Great Janitor: What about those Snake Worshiping Christians?

Christians who handle snakes don't worship them. They do that because there's scripture that says true believers will not be harmed by the venom of snakes.

They die regularly from this misconception, but they don't worship snakes.


So...it's the Church of Darwin
2012-11-11 12:54:03 AM
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It is ugly. I side with the religious d-bags on this one. Also, "GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up."
2012-11-11 12:50:54 AM
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Let's all chip in to commission a sweet painting of SATAN!!!
2012-11-11 12:50:11 AM
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Some people lack the right amount of reference to distinguish between words for what they don't like (or like); they've simply grown up to classifiy things only within the bounds of their religion. Therefore, when they say something is 'satanic', they may well mean that they really think it's 'ugly' - they just don't have the word for it.
2012-11-11 12:48:59 AM
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Well, the artist does a lot of unusual pieces. I just think it's ugly but I wouldn't go as far as to deface it myself.
2012-11-11 12:46:51 AM
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When I was working at the Bellagio, we had some casino porters who got upset about Satanic exhibits in the art gallery there.

They thought the Russian exhibit with the Faberge Eggs was the work of the Devil.
2012-11-11 12:45:42 AM
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Darn it, I wish I'd known long ago that fish are satanic. It might have gotten me out of having to eat a lot of terrible tuna casserole as a kid.
2012-11-11 12:45:38 AM
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Langdon_777: I hope someone is going to get in trouble for vandalising the public art work


Sounds like GDOT ought to press charges against Living Walls, and the frog.
2012-11-11 12:44:54 AM
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Sudlow: It was a pretty ugly mural that seems to have been put up without full permission on property not owned by the city.

translation: pretentious art dbags decided to spread their "vision" in a place they had no right to be. Not every wall needs a mural.


And not every mural is worthy of a wall
2012-11-11 12:43:40 AM
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markie_farkie: Fish are satanic?

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 508x212]

Hmmm.



there is a fish that swims up your penis. That's pretty Satanic. Godly fish would never do such a thing.
 
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