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2012-11-11 08:07:14 AM

phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.


You may be right.
I wonder why?

/Hint: It's not because of your religion.
 
2012-11-11 08:09:54 AM

BronyMedic: PC LOAD LETTER: The South still remains painfully, hopelessly stupid.

It's Atlanta. Sherman had the right idea.

/plus their traffic sucks!


i.qkme.me
 
2012-11-11 08:26:17 AM

GungFu: markie_farkie: Fish are satanic?

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 508x212]

Hmmm.

there is a fish that swims up your penis. That's pretty Satanic. Godly fish would never do such a thing.


Only once you were married.
 
2012-11-11 08:28:42 AM
"Art" is not sacred. If you don't like it, feel free to paint over it.
 
2012-11-11 08:32:47 AM
Haven't read the thread all the way though, but I wanted to skim and make sure we had plenty of people lumping the entire southern US in with these people. Because like the rest of you, everyone here is in 100% agreement with what our neighbors do. And I'd hate for you all to miss out on an opportunity to feel superior to someone else. And I'm certainly unaware of the irony of me painting the entire region with a broad brush, while at the same time accusing them of being closed-minded.

But one comment in particular has stood out to me:

bostonowns: if anyone tries to defend the south in any way just point out to them that:
bible belt states lead the US in highschool drop outs, underage pregnancy, lowest insured, per capita highest welfare rates, and most obese. so we have fat, dumb, sick people milking the system and dying while they scream it's the liberals fault!


You're right. Kind of. All of the statistics you've dragged out are direct or indirect results from poverty, which is indeed leading in the south. But ...so? What does that have to do these idiots hating on the mural? Did you find some bizarre piece of data that associates poverty with a distrust of snakes? Or are you trying to correlate religion with paucity? Because I'm fairly certain I could find one or two people that would object to your misunderstanding of correlation and causation.

Or was this just your way of adding salt to the wound? "Some idiots down there disliked a mural for stupid reasons! And they have poor people too! Haha!" Clarify for me, please.

And judging from your username I'm going to operate under the assumption that you're living in Massachusetts. Now I could be a dick and point out your state's failings and bring them up any time some idiot in Boston runs his mouth - like your state's staggeringly high homelessness rate(#6 in the nation, despite only having 2% of the country's population), your state's crackdown on personal freedoms, your state's strangely high cost of living, or that whole electing-Romney-governor thing.

But I'm not going to do all that. Because I don't want to be the asshole that brings up wildly unrelated bullsh*t while lumping an entire region of millions of people that may or may not disagree with what some idiots are doing in their neighborhood.

Spend a little less time on that high horse, or every time you go by all anyone's going to see is a horse's ass.
 
2012-11-11 08:42:31 AM
It was painted over by some because they weren't consulted, NOT because anyone thought it was 'satanic'. Angel Poventud is full of shiat!

That being said, the mural was properly permitted and on DOT property, By painting over it the opponents became vandals and should be treated as such.
 
2012-11-11 08:44:11 AM

Dadoody: Their community. If they didn't want it fine, they could petition, but the property also wasn't theirs - it is the entire public's.


But they had to stand up for what they believe in!
They had to make a difference!
 
2012-11-11 09:04:51 AM
Atlanta you say?

Maybe they would have been happier with something like 

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-11 09:21:54 AM

Sudlow: It was a pretty ugly mural that seems to have been put up without full permission on property not owned by the city.

translation: pretentious art dbags decided to spread their "vision" in a place they had no right to be. Not every wall needs a mural.


You are an idiot. I live in the neighborhood. What the so-called community leaders did was closer to graffiti than what was originally done. At least the original artist had gotten some sort of permission.
 
2012-11-11 09:26:22 AM
The main point of error is that the neighborhood association did not vote on this. It was an ex- legislator and church group who decided that their opinion was greater than the community's as a whole. And those stating that the piece was ugly, well there's no accounting for taste.
 
2012-11-11 09:26:39 AM
The French artist didn't understand his target audience.

If he had done some sort of urban art that looked as if it was done by a sixth grader, using the colors red, yellow and green, and included a picture of a bible somewhere, it would have been well accepted.
 
2012-11-11 09:29:36 AM
heh, democrats.
 
2012-11-11 10:08:04 AM
TheJoe03: Ends justify the means in this case, that mural was horrible. Get some good graffiti artists on the case and this whole thing is solved, maybe paint something over it that is more positive or something that fits the area better. Just because the guy's French doesn't mean he's a good artist and you don't have to be religious to think that mural was ugly as hell.


I agree. I think that this artist must be one of those Frenchies who hates Americans, and decided to put the most depressing and drab thing that he could dream up that would also give little kids nightmares. I wouldn't want to have to look at that ugly assed thing day after day either. Good for them for taking it out.

phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.

Hey, if the gays were involved they would use bright pastels. And although I agree that liberals are annoying, they are not at the Nazi level yet. They still haven't started taking away the religious tax privileges and confiscating their stuff like they did to the Jews.
 
2012-11-11 10:11:16 AM

phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.


Go on...
 
2012-11-11 10:14:01 AM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-11 10:15:21 AM

The Muthaship: Great Janitor: What about those Snake Worshiping Christians?

Christians who handle snakes don't worship them. They do that because there's scripture that says true believers will not be harmed by the venom of snakes.

They die regularly from this misconception, but they don't worship snakes.


You know who else isn't harmed by the venom of snakes? People who don''t handle venomous snakes.
 
2012-11-11 10:18:25 AM
Dear USA,

Satanic scales? Really? Thank you for another "Meanwhile in the US..." thread. Un-farking-believable.

You do know this only happens in the theocratic, bigoted countries you are so busy labeling as evil, yea?

Love you - and know these people don't represent the common American. But, wow!

Sincerely,

The rest of the World (specifically Denmark - yea us with the Muhammad cartoons)
 
2012-11-11 10:28:14 AM
Yes but as Subby pointed out, the artist is FRENCH.

/not sure which side that supports
 
2012-11-11 10:30:18 AM
Ah lahk it. Don't make alligatofishman go away!
 
2012-11-11 10:43:28 AM

phrawgh: God will reward them for this brave act. Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.


Channeling Pat Robertson today are we?
 
2012-11-11 10:45:33 AM
WWBD?
 
2012-11-11 10:48:25 AM

Soymilk: "Fish are satanic. Scales are satanic"

I'm pretty sure the Bible says only fishes with scales are a-okay. The fishes without scales are the ones to avoid.


They have to have fins too. But Jewish religious scholars have noted that no one has ever been able to come up with an edible-size fish that has scales but no fins.
 
2012-11-11 10:54:25 AM

SwiftFox: Soymilk: "Fish are satanic. Scales are satanic"

I'm pretty sure the Bible says only fishes with scales are a-okay. The fishes without scales are the ones to avoid.

They have to have fins too. But Jewish religious scholars have noted that no one has ever been able to come up with an edible-size fish that has scales but no fins.


Right. Noah forgot to take those on the ark.
 
2012-11-11 11:03:32 AM
I think your biblical timeline is off. Before Noah the rule was that all the animals god made were man's to consume. Well, I'm not sure the exact wording includes mammals, that's questionable.
 
2012-11-11 11:14:10 AM

vegasj: no mention of DAT ASS on the far left?!

sad guys, really sad.

[media.cmgdigital.com image 610x343]


i.imgur.com 

Focus. Focus.
 
2012-11-11 11:20:28 AM

SwiftFox: I think your biblical timeline is off. Before Noah the rule was that all the animals god made were man's to consume. Well, I'm not sure the exact wording includes mammals, that's questionable.


According to those young Earthers at the creation museum before Adam's "fall" all plants and animals were in perfect harmony and balance with each other and no life form was destroyed by any other. I guess spiders ate clovers and lions and daffodils or something. Oh... and cavemen rode vegetarian velociraptors to the market.
 
2012-11-11 11:22:19 AM

SquiggsIN: SwiftFox: I think your biblical timeline is off. Before Noah the rule was that all the animals god made were man's to consume. Well, I'm not sure the exact wording includes mammals, that's questionable.

According to those young Earthers at the creation museum before Adam's "fall" all plants and animals were in perfect harmony and balance with each other and no life form was destroyed by any other. I guess spiders ate clovers and lions and daffodils or something. Oh... and cavemen rode vegetarian velociraptors to the market.


lions ate daffodils, etc.

/coffee +1 please.
 
2012-11-11 11:23:42 AM

jso2897:
That's the issue - sure, if you don't like the mural, object. In this case, they would have won easily, since the proper permit hadn't been obtained.
Instead, they snuck in the night and vandalized it. In doing so, they lost any sympathy from me - now they just look ignorant.


They made an artistic statement every bit as valid (and, it seems, as legal) as that made by the original artist. The point of art is to inspire a reaction in the viewer.
 
2012-11-11 11:25:48 AM
And this is what Америка has been dumbed down to.

Snakes are satanic.

Scales are satanic.

Even though they eat fish every day and buy snake skin boots and purses.

And we have also learned that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing and neither do the fingers on each hand at the Atlanta DOT. 

www.taltopia.com
 
2012-11-11 11:38:28 AM

SquiggsIN: SwiftFox: I think your biblical timeline is off. Before Noah the rule was that all the animals god made were man's to consume. Well, I'm not sure the exact wording includes mammals, that's questionable.

According to those young Earthers at the creation museum before Adam's "fall" all plants and animals were in perfect harmony and balance with each other and no life form was destroyed by any other. I guess spiders ate clovers and lions and daffodils or something. Oh... and cavemen rode vegetarian velociraptors to the market.


spider eating a lion? was it Australian??
 
2012-11-11 11:50:36 AM
I liked the mural. I don't get why people hate art so much. Anything interesting and creative must be stomped out in this country by close minded little farks. It's like when I drew fish in chalk in my apartment parking lot. Most people liked my fish, but some morons told me I got chalk on their tires. I ended up crying for a half an hour.
 
2012-11-11 12:03:28 PM
I can haz Geogia tag now?

/so embarrassed
//need to make new Fark handle
///and MOVE
 
2012-11-11 12:04:15 PM

The Muthaship: Great Janitor: What about those Snake Worshiping Christians?

Christians who handle snakes don't worship them. They do that because there's scripturethat got added many years after the original was written that says true believers will not be harmed by the venom of snakes.

They die regularly from this misconception, but they don't worship snakes.


FTFW. Any reliable modern translation either moves the questionable text to a footnote, or adds "this isn't part of the early text and we have no idea why it's here" warnings in the margins, or both. Nobody sane believes it to be factual.
 
2012-11-11 12:04:32 PM
I don't know, I kind of dig it actually. I find it curious and thought provoking. I like when art isn't immediately obvious, when you can come back time and again and see something new. I like that the colors are subdued and not bright and garish, I would hate to have to live near a neon barfed explosion of simplistic colors and juvenile design.

But this I can get behind. 

Pre-painted over version

I also think its a shame the article only shows the post vandalism version, as it makes the piece look shiattier.
 
2012-11-11 12:23:01 PM
It amazes me that anyone still believes in Satan. It's really a step away from believing in the Bogey Man.

david_gaithersburg: For the Fark bigots and racists, demographics of neighborhood in question. Link:

Demographics (2000)[2]
• White/Other 2%
• Black 96%
• Asian 1%
• Hispanic 1%


... And? Black people can't be religious zealots and morons?
 
2012-11-11 12:24:53 PM
am I the only one in here who liked the original? Then again, I'm a former art student, so I guess that disqualifies me.
 
2012-11-11 12:41:12 PM
www.coronacomingattractions.com
Say what now?
 
2012-11-11 12:41:21 PM

Wayne 985: It amazes me that anyone still believes in Satan. It's really a step away from believing in the Bogey Man.

david_gaithersburg: For the Fark bigots and racists, demographics of neighborhood in question. Link:

Demographics (2000)[2]
• White/Other 2%
• Black 96%
• Asian 1%
• Hispanic 1%

... And? Black people can't be religious zealots and morons?


technically, I'm not sure the modifier is even needed.
 
2012-11-11 12:49:50 PM

markie_farkie: Fish are satanic?

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 508x212]

Hmmm.


Yes, but since it supposed to be a vagina representing the virgin birth, that doesn't matter much.
 
2012-11-11 12:51:43 PM
Of all the major racial and ethnic groups in the United States, black Americans are the most likely to report a formal religious affiliation. Even among those blacks who are unaffiliated, three-in-four belong to the "religious unaffiliated" category (that is, they say that religion is either somewhat or very important in their lives), compared with slightly more than one-third of the unaffiliated population overall.

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
 
2012-11-11 01:06:39 PM
1. The adults in the neighborhood seem to be your typical overly religious southerners who want to get rid of anything that could be construted as evil or ungodly in the slightest.

2. Enough fail to go around for everyone but the artist, the people who commissioned the mural did not the permits and approvals they actually needed and did not run the design past the people in the neighborhood. The folks in the neighborhood handled it poorly and should have gone through proper channels to get it removed.
 
2012-11-11 01:08:05 PM

markie_farkie: Fish are satanic?

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 508x212]

Hmmm.


Rotate 90º Counter Clockwise and it's got horns. Obviously satanic.
 
2012-11-11 01:17:06 PM

grimlock1972: 1. The adults in the neighborhood seem to be your typical overly religious southerners who want to get rid of anything that could be construted as evil or ungodly in the slightest.


the important thing here is even you found someone to feel superior today.
 
2012-11-11 01:27:13 PM

Wayne 985: It amazes me that anyone still believes in Satan. It's really a step away from believing in the Bogey Man.

david_gaithersburg: For the Fark bigots and racists, demographics of neighborhood in question. Link:

Demographics (2000)[2]
• White/Other 2%
• Black 96%
• Asian 1%
• Hispanic 1%

... And? Black people can't be religious zealots and morons?


Of course, they can but they're seldom members of snake handling churches, hardly ever appeared on Hee Haw (other than Charlie Pride), nor are they often labeled crackers.
 
2012-11-11 01:28:26 PM
Once again, it was only one retard, Angel Poventud, who said anything about fish being satanic. He is supposedly a "really nice guy" but he isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

The objections and reasons given by those who vandalized the mural had to do with them not being consulted on the decision.
 
2012-11-11 01:33:04 PM

SquiggsIN: SwiftFox: I think your biblical timeline is off. Before Noah the rule was that all the animals god made were man's to consume. Well, I'm not sure the exact wording includes mammals, that's questionable.

According to those young Earthers at the creation museum before Adam's "fall" all plants and animals were in perfect harmony and balance with each other and no life form was destroyed by any other. I guess spiders ate clovers and lions and daffodils or something. Oh... and cavemen rode vegetarian velociraptors to the market.


Doesn't matter. Between Adam and Noah there was a time when men of renown did impressive things. One of them would have had to be had to be breeding domesticated dogs, cattle, goats, sheep, horses - well, whatever of those animals Noah was supposed to keep multiple pairs of because they were domesticated animals - out of wolves, aurochs, wild goats, etc.
 
2012-11-11 01:57:17 PM
The previous mural was pretty bad. Unpleasant to look at, told no story, and generated no discussion other than how bad it was.

Gotta go with the religious wackos on this. They should have had a seat at the table when this was being planned. They didn't so they created one for themselves.
 
2012-11-11 02:23:16 PM

BronyMedic: advex101: It is ugly. I side with the religious d-bags on this one. Also, "GDOT crews said they didn't issue a permit for the mural and will likely have to cover it up."

I'll take "What is censorship" for three hundred, Alex.


So I can come and paint a mural on the front of your house without your permission? GDOT owns the wall, they get to say what is on it.
 
2012-11-11 02:24:25 PM
I love the Fark "art is bad" brigade. Sorry folks, there are many schools of art, and no-one is a fan of all of them. If art had to satisfy all critics there would be no art.

I'm not a huge fan of the piece, but i get it. It ties in well with the neighborhood colors. A bright shiny high school mural would have looked out of place and garish.
Its sad that the artist didn't go through all the motions to get the full permit, but its also incredibly stupid that the neighborhood painted it over.
The proper procedure would have been to go back to the city/neighborhood and go through the original motions to get the full permit. THERE the neighbors would have had their say,not with soap and brushes.
 
2012-11-11 02:33:34 PM

Sudlow: It was a pretty ugly mural that seems to have been put up without full permission on property not owned by the city.

translation: pretentious art dbags decided to spread their "vision" in a place they had no right to be. Not every wall needs a mural.


First sentence in the article: The art was commissioned by the group Living Walls

A few paragraphs in: The nonprofit Living Walls conference commissioned the painting by French artist Roti,

'Commissioned' means a group of people goes and pays the artist to paint. Not the artist does whatever they want. For example, if I were commissioned to write a book, I probably wouldn't have any say in what the book was about, who the main characters were, things that are normally up to the author--but I'd get paid a lot to do the 'heavy lifting' for someone else's concept.

So yeah, this is more a case of everyone miscommunicating, plus really stupid neighborhood.
 
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