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2012-11-10 05:52:03 PM
5 votes:

Silly Jesus: Would you be in favor of voters having to demonstrate some modicum of intelligence / relevant knowledge prior to voting?


sure (all the questions are true or false)
1) president obama was born in america
2) president obama is a christian
3) the universe is over 8000 years old
4) evolution is a fact. our understanding of its processes are theoretical
5) there were and are no weapons of mass destruction in iraq
6) 9/11 really happened

we dont even need to LET the voter know the right answer
if they answer false for 1 of the questions, their vote doesnt count
if they answer false to 2-5 of the questions, their vote wont count for the rest of their life
if they answer false to all 6 questions, they are taken out back and shot

TADA
problem solved
2012-11-10 06:19:50 PM
4 votes:
Mitt Romney is already slithering into the mists of history

The chant is reaching fever pitch. Mouths shriek, throats split. 'Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Romney R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!'

I notice a sting on my arm. When I look down, a locust with Ayn Rand's face gorges messily on my flesh. I understand now.

Romney whips his hooded priests, screaming that 10% must have their hearts ripped from their chests to achieve Godhood.

Coulter spews acid and tar at the crowd, fusing them together in a grotesque mass. Smell is overwhelming, we wait to die.

A zombified titan stands on the stage. Shrugging his shoulders, a boulder of teeth, hair, and cartilage lands on the crowd

A mother hugs her shivering son. She doesn't notice when his mouth distends, revealing rows of razor-sharp teeth.

Romney warmly embraces the orphan before biting into her skull as if it were an apple.

Bush Sr steps on stage and we scream in rapturous agony as our skin is stretched to pieces, to the Washington Post March!

Paul Ryan is sitting just offstage at #RomneyDeathRally, pointing a camera at the crowd. He's not collecting their images, but their souls.
2012-11-10 07:22:24 PM
3 votes:

Raharu: Here you go Silly Jesus, this should help you catch up to the rest of the world.


No cheatun.....

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2012-11-10 08:31:42 PM
2 votes:

rynthetyn: How did this turn into a flame war over evolution?


Natural selection of inflammatory comments lead to a new thread species.
2012-11-10 07:13:21 PM
2 votes:

Hueg_Redd: getting so tired of "witty" little phrases like this. This isn't the 1950's south where saying these things made you sound profound to your peanut farming friends


I know right? This is 2012. If your phrase isn't superimposed over a picture of Willy Wonka or a fat dog why should I care?
2012-11-10 06:54:29 PM
2 votes:
fta The rude jolt administered by the election does not mean that the GOP will now depart from its faith-based view of reality

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2012-11-10 06:47:34 PM
2 votes:

yousaywut: 4: false which is why it's called evolutionary theory or the theory of evolution. (we don't know enough about the universe to call this a fact yet)


Pig pile on yousay!

This always bugs me. "The theory of relativity is only a theory; therefore, I deny the existence of nuclear weapons." "The germ theory of disease is only a theory; therefore, I refuse to take antibiotics when I'm ill." "The theory of gravity is only a theory; therefore, I am floating away into outer space gooooddddbbbbyyyyyeeeee..."

Actually that last one I'd like to see.
2012-11-10 05:47:33 PM
2 votes:
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
2012-11-10 05:09:32 PM
2 votes:

quickdraw: I really really thought they knew and were just faking it.


So yah, it is one or the other right?
They either knew that they were losing and were faking it to try and keep the numbers up and to get the vote out. Which is fine.

Or they were completely deluded. Which is batshiat-crazy.

GAT_00: There is no difference to Republicans. Opinions are facts.


And it is that kind of thinking which has pushed the GOP into this wonderful corner. They either have to admit that the far right is batshiat crazy or they have to double down.
Bwahahahahahahahahah

WE KNOW what they are going to do!!
2012-11-10 04:51:21 PM
2 votes:
I really really thought they knew and were just faking it.
2012-11-10 04:14:20 PM
2 votes:

cman: We create our own reality when the reality we have is something that we do not like.

Simple psychology, really


The enlightened mind resists this. Others just go balls to the walls.
2012-11-11 04:46:01 PM
1 votes:
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2012-11-10 10:15:41 PM
1 votes:
"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality-judiciously, as you will-we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

-Karl "Turdblossom" Rove
2012-11-10 09:42:27 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Your position is asinine. Nobody could possibly set a baseline for knowledge? IQ test? US Naturalization Test? One question "Who is the VP?" test. You don't think that anyone exists of sufficient intelligence to implement such a test, including you? You're at least literate. Don't sell yourself short. I at least have faith in you that you could pass the most basic of these tests.

Wasn't this whole test thing tried before in the States? Do you remember how that went?

Also you would fail any test for being a Trump supporter.

Are you implying that minorities would perform poorly on a test of intellectual competence? That's pretty racist of you.

/not a Trump supporter...just thought if I could give a large sum of money to cancer children with little to no effort and didn't, I might be a dick


I don't think asking if tests were used before implies that minorities would perform poorly on a test of intellectual competence. The reality is that when tests were used in the past, they were administered unfairly and subjectively--different questions for different groups, and whites were exempted from the literacy test if they could meet alternate requirements (the grandfather clause).

/I know, I know, "This time we'll get it right! We promise!"
2012-11-10 09:33:29 PM
1 votes:

dickfreckle: randomjsa: Of course, it's not only that Obama is a much bigger liar and distorter of reality, it's that the media doesn't call him on it because they're in the tank for him. If they're not helping him lie then they're actively working to give him a pass on everything he screws up.

Just once - once- I would like to see a link offered, backing your claims. A real link with raw data, not the blogs you get your information from. Don't get stuck on stupid, son.

So, for the 324th and likely last time, I ask you to provide some sort of credible evidence that the entire media is "in the tank" for Obama. I know it makes assholes like you sleep better at night, thinking it's not really the GOP's fault (personal responsibility!), but Rush Limbaugh having said it does not make it true. Go to schleeps widdle baby, in the morning momma will be here to reassure you that it was really the evil media that lost the election for you. Christ you're an insufferable cockbag. Grow the fark up, you p*ssy, and own the mistakes.

/if you're really this misled and ignorant and not a troll, I genuinely feel sorry for you
//oh wait, no I don't


And I was seriously just wondering why I had you labeled as "abrasive but reasonable."
2012-11-10 09:31:24 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Of course, it's not only that Obama is a much bigger liar and distorter of reality, it's that the media doesn't call him on it because they're in the tank for him. If they're not helping him lie then they're actively working to give him a pass on everything he screws up.


Just once - once- I would like to see a link offered, backing your claims. A real link with raw data, not the blogs you get your information from. Don't get stuck on stupid, son.

So, for the 324th and likely last time, I ask you to provide some sort of credible evidence that the entire media is "in the tank" for Obama. I know it makes assholes like you sleep better at night, thinking it's not really the GOP's fault (personal responsibility!), but Rush Limbaugh having said it does not make it true. Go to schleeps widdle baby, in the morning momma will be here to reassure you that it was really the evil media that lost the election for you. Christ you're an insufferable cockbag. Grow the fark up, you p*ssy, and own the mistakes.

/if you're really this misled and ignorant and not a troll, I genuinely feel sorry for you
//oh wait, no I don't
2012-11-10 09:30:48 PM
1 votes:

Hueg_Redd: getting so tired of "witty" little phrases like this. This isn't the 1950's south where saying these things made you sound profound to your peanut farming friends


Everyone gets three guesses on who you voted for in the election...

Of course you don't like it, it trumps your fantasy land.

bet you loved: "Let's put White back in the White House" though.
2012-11-10 07:51:56 PM
1 votes:

Snatch Bandergrip: realmolo: 2 + 2 equals FOUR. Fact. Evolution occurs. Fact.

[fashionablygeek.com image 450x450]


Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica.
2012-11-10 07:27:00 PM
1 votes:
There is a scary reverse feedback loop that has developed over the last couple decades -

1. Republicans talk non-reality, need an outlet to convince voters of this non-reality...
2. Talk radio/Fox news arises to fill this need...
3. Many, many voters are convinced of the non-reality...
4. These voters now demand politicians that conform to the non-reality...
5. Republicans now MUST double-down on the non-reality

around and around....

Its a perpetually propagating alternate reality.
2012-11-10 07:25:32 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Well educated people simply come up with more sophisticated rationalizations for their delusions.


That is a great line. It perfectly encapsulates the backwards logic and anti-intellectual mindset of the contemporary conservative. Ironic in its eloquence.
2012-11-10 07:19:35 PM
1 votes:

yousaywut: I would love to see some folks float away it would entertaining.


That's the beauty/tragedy of the scientific 'theory' - there can be a gazzilion examples that confirm it, but it still can never be called a fact. Find but a single counterexample, and 'poof' it's gone.
2012-11-10 07:12:36 PM
1 votes:

Notabunny: sugardave: Silly Jesus: Are the losers derided for believing in their team?

Yes.

Yes. That is the point. Their team was not believable, they chose to believe in their team anyway, and they lost because of their indefensible belief in their team. So, yes, it is proper to deride the losers for believing in their team.


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"But the Generals were due"!
2012-11-10 07:07:56 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: A slicker liar could have won, and still might.

Somebody might want to tell him that Obama did win.

Of course, it's not only that Obama is a much bigger liar and distorter of reality, it's that the media doesn't call him on it because they're in the tank for him. If they're not helping him lie then they're actively working to give him a pass on everything he screws up.


So, basically, what you're saying is

randomjsa: 'People don't reject liberal conservative ideas, they either didn't understand them or they were tricked!'

2012-11-10 07:01:48 PM
1 votes:

sugardave: Silly Jesus: Are the losers derided for believing in their team?

Yes.


Yes. That is the point. Their team was not believable, they chose to believe in their team anyway, and they lost because of their indefensible belief in their team. So, yes, it is proper to deride the losers for believing in their team.
2012-11-10 07:00:19 PM
1 votes:

yousaywut: True enough but it is still a theory in the common use of the word as well. It is the best theory we have at the moment but there are certain questions that stop it from becoming fact. Such as irreducible complexity and of course missing links. (I am not denying evolution just saying it is not yet a fact). I think it may become a fact within our lifetime or be completely disproven and become another oops in scientific history.) Make no mistake I am not a creationist I am merely skeptical of calling an unproven theory a fact.


Incorrect. Again you parrot usual creationist arguments, all dis-proven. You might not be a creationist, but it's fairly obvious that you've listened to their arguments (which have been dis-proven into oblivion an absurd amount of times.) As I noted before, a scientific theory is fact. It cannot and is not both proven and unproven. I urge you to read that wikipedia article myself and two others linked you to or at least quoted from.
2012-11-10 06:52:12 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: A slicker liar could have won, and still might.

Somebody might want to tell him that Obama did win.

Of course, it's not only that Obama is a much bigger liar and distorter of reality, it's that the media doesn't call him on it because they're in the tank for him. If they're not helping him lie then they're actively working to give him a pass on everything he screws up.


You exemplify this thread.

Pew study: Obama, Romney get nearly equal treatment from media. Equally negative.

Of course I fully expect you to claim the study itself is biased. Go ahead, I'll wait.
2012-11-10 06:44:59 PM
1 votes:

cman: mjjt: USA is one of few countries that doesn't have a national educational curriculum and allows local groups like Texas Board of Ed to control syllabus.

That may be a good thing. I dont know about you, but I dont want someone from Texas to control what can or cannot be taught in my Maine schools.


With a national educational curriculum, it is unlikely that Texas would have enough influence to rewrite history books for other states. The fact that no other state has gone so far off the deep end as Texas has indicates that the rest of the country would, as a group, vote down Texas' attempt to push their agenda on other states. That's kinda the whole point of a national educational system.

/Must . . . resist . . . urge to make joke about Maine failing to . . . teach about apostrophes. . .
2012-11-10 06:42:34 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: A slicker liar could have won, and still might.

Somebody might want to tell him that Obama did win.

Of course, it's not only that Obama is a much bigger liar and distorter of reality, it's that the media doesn't call him on it because they're in the tank for him. If they're not helping him lie then they're actively working to give him a pass on everything he screws up.


THIS IS WHAT VICTORIA JACKSON ACTUALLY BELIEVES.
2012-11-10 06:28:10 PM
1 votes:
Two quotes and an anecdote:

"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof."

-- John Kenneth Galbraith

All right, that's almost a reasonable excuse for the current repub attitude.

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche

And that's why I will never, ever, ever vote for a repub again, for any office. Ever.

Finally an anecdote. I've been seeing a lot of "Can't we all just get along?" type statements here and on Facebook. The argument is that civility and respect oblige progressives to reach out the hand of friendship -- again -- to conservatives if we are to have a return to political normalcy. This is why that can't, shouldn't, happen.

When I was a teenager I used to hang out with a friend named Jay. One day we were playing Risk. Late in the game I had beaten him down to a single army and he was about to lose that. "Oh, please," he said. "Leave me this one teeny little army so can say in the game. Just this one army." I said sure, why not. When it was his turn he sat up and pulled out the dozen armies he'd been hiding, and proceeded to win the game. Did I say anything? No. Did I ever let him pull that stunt on me again? Heck, no. When he twisted my arm to play backgammon with him for money and he ended up losing $75 the first night, did I offer to forgive the debt? Oh hells no, although in his defense he didn't ask me to and, after I relieved of of fifty more bucks the following night when he attempted to recoup his losses, he never offered to play me for money again.

We've already endured eight years of "It's your own fault, you were stupid enough to believe us" under the Bush regime. The Scott Walker affair demonstrated again, that repubs say what they please to get into office, then pursue completely different, unannounced agendas once they're in power. The Democrats need to press their advantage, mercilessly, if they hope to implement their programs. At least we're up front about what we want to do. The repubs cannot be allowed to regroup, to reframe their lies in a different format to achieve their unscrupulous goals. There is, for instance, a long battle ahead of us to undo the past twelve years of gerrymandering which is the only reason the repubs have held on to their House majority. There is no room any more for compromise. The repubs must be utterly destroyed before a new, clean conservative movement can rise from their ashes.

Pars republicanorum delenda est.
2012-11-10 06:14:06 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: No, shooting people for not believing what they believe is what I meant

Oh, yeah, that bit is a tad extreme.


A tad? Listen to the two of you, calmly discussing how superior you are to all the other citizens of our country. Your combined arrogance is truly astounding.
2012-11-10 06:10:29 PM
1 votes:
Silly Jesus, you seem to be having a lot of trouble with this, but don't worry!

I have a link that can help you.

Here you go Silly Jesus, this should help you catch up to the rest of the world.
2012-11-10 06:06:49 PM
1 votes:
You guys, most of the trolls are still washing their hair and returning some video tapes. You can't tell them they can't make up facts, when they can't even fight back.
2012-11-10 06:03:01 PM
1 votes:

Aldon: Those who identified themselves as Republicans in 2010 no longer identify as Republicans, instead they identify as independents but pretty much still vote Republican.


this is the tea party. they fancy themselves as "independent," but what they are is simply the farthest right, most racially motivated wing of the republican party. they are the GOP's "republican guards."
2012-11-10 06:01:48 PM
1 votes:
A slicker liar could have won, and still might.

Somebody might want to tell him that Obama did win.

Of course, it's not only that Obama is a much bigger liar and distorter of reality, it's that the media doesn't call him on it because they're in the tank for him. If they're not helping him lie then they're actively working to give him a pass on everything he screws up.
2012-11-10 05:53:32 PM
1 votes:

namatad: heap: namatad: They either knew that they were losing and were faking it to try and keep the numbers up and to get the vote out. Which is fine.

Or they were completely deluded. Which is batshiat-crazy.

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when I heard her ask that question, I thought I was going to die. LOL


I started laughing hysterically to the point that I completely missed the next ten minutes of the program... including his reply.
2012-11-10 05:16:16 PM
1 votes:

namatad: They either knew that they were losing and were faking it to try and keep the numbers up and to get the vote out. Which is fine.

Or they were completely deluded. Which is batshiat-crazy.


lh3.googleusercontent.com
2012-11-10 04:30:16 PM
1 votes:
There is no difference to Republicans. Opinions are facts.
 
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