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2012-11-10 03:09:53 PM  
7 votes:
Obama has a clear win. The Senate picked up Democratic seats and has a Democratic majority. The House is still Republican, but it has fewer Republicans holding seats. America looked at both sides and made its choice. It wants Democratic policies and guiding principles, not Republican ones. Anyone who says this is not a mandate is currently reading America the way the Republicans read America right before the election. This is not gloating. It is not schadenfreude. It is a fact.

Democrats did not try to suppress the Republican vote, Democrats did not play any shenanigans with the voting machines. There is no evidence for rampant election fraud from the Democratic side, and the suppress-the-vote, ballot tampering, and registration shenanigans as any kind of concerted movement did not come from Democrats. Billionaire-funded Super PACs were overwhelmingly supporting Republicans, not Democrats. Being outspent is certainly not an excuse. No, the Democrats won, and they won comparatively cleanly. The Supreme Court did not appoint Obama. The election games in Ohio were not done by a Democratic Secretary of State. The fact is that Democrats won because they made a better case, and the American people chose them. You don't get to cry "Voter suppression!" by completely changing the definition of voter suppression.

Look, I do think it is unseemly for Democrats to gloat and take joy in their neighbor's sadness over losing. But, even if all of the liberals and Obama-supporters were incredibly gracious on down to the last man or woman, even if each and every one of them brought hugs and pie to every single disappointing Republican, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter because even when reality hits them with the Mack truck of the facts of this election, they refuse to see what it means about their world view. Many in the party are still spinning their own alternate universe where they were victimized, where Romney won, where no one supports Obama except "takers" intent on buggering "makers." If my guys were 100% wrong in their mathematical projections, I would be looking for better guys to do the math. I wouldn't be looking for guys intent on proving that the bad math was really good math.

For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.
2012-11-10 02:21:40 PM  
5 votes:
Bush claims mandate with a 286/252 Electoral College win and 3.5 million popular vote lead. "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."

Obama asks nicely for mandate with 332/206 Electoral College win and 3.2 million (so far) popular vote lead.  "So we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together." 
2012-11-10 02:08:36 PM  
5 votes:
seriously - this counts as a landslide victory by almost any way you'd care to measure. Obama took what? over 60% of the electoral collage votes? even if you don't want to use the term 'landslide victory' you still have to admit that it's a crushing defeat for Romney and the Republican party. this is a firm rejection of all things Republican.
2012-11-10 05:46:18 PM  
4 votes:
angryblackladychronicles.com
2012-11-10 01:09:14 PM  
4 votes:

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?


If you're Republican, it's one vote. If not, you have to win by eleventy billion percent.
2012-11-10 01:04:40 PM  
4 votes:
that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.
2012-11-10 07:02:29 PM  
3 votes:
538th Psalm

Nate Silver is my statistician; I shall not fret.
He maketh me to lie down in blue states:
He leadeth me beside the bicoastal urban elites.
He restoreth my faith in the electoral college:
He leadeth me in the path of accuracy for his name brand's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Diebold,
I will fear no recounts: For he is with me;
His blog and his stats, they comfort me.
He preparest a table of odds before me in the presence of partisan hacks;
He filleth my head with possible outcomes; My brain bloweth up.

Surely middle class tax relief and affordable health care shall follow me all the days of my life,
and Obama will dwell in the House of White for the next four years.
2012-11-10 05:57:01 PM  
3 votes:

skullkrusher: the meat of his prediction


the meat of his prediction was also wrong, incorrect, unbased in reality or worth any more concern than you'd give to a crazy person shaking naked barbie dolls at you from a freeway overpass.

he is that dumb. i'm sorry that hurts you somehow, but...for chrissakes, it's dick morris - it isn't like this incident was required to form the opinion that he is dumb, he's been giving examples for decades now.
2012-11-10 01:06:50 PM  
3 votes:
media.web.britannica.com
2012-11-11 10:10:38 AM  
2 votes:

Teufelaffe: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?

Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?


I got into it with someone the other day about just that, and they were herp-a-derping their sweet little hearts out over the "imported firearm" bit.

Until I explained to them Beretta USA manufactures the firearms for American sale...in America. They're not imported firearms, just like those made by Heckler & Koch and Fabrique Nationale. In fact, the extra regulations on imported firearms would provide the ill-needed but apparently much-desired impetus for foreign firearm manufacturers for whom Americans are key customers, like Glock and Benelli, to open manufactories in the states...making the small arms treaty a job creating treaty.

Which makes that a particularly egregious, misleading, and dishonest point on the part of the NRA, since they're the alleged "experts" on these matters. Considering they're bankrolled by major firearms and ammunition manufacturers, and PMC's, they're misinforming their own membership to protect the fiscal interests of their major contributors. Which is exactly what you'd expect from a right-wing organization, but I digress...
2012-11-10 05:47:41 PM  
2 votes:

heap: for chrissakes, you're gonna end up stuck all pretzel shaped if you keep this up.


Getting stuck all pretzel-shaped is kind of skullkrusher's stock in trade. That, and doing the Sideshow Bob rake-stepping dance.
2012-11-10 02:50:17 PM  
2 votes:
america, where you can outright say you'll make women keep their rape babies and still get 47% of the vote. what the shiat.
2012-11-10 02:34:57 PM  
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.


Bowtie on a politician often means "I am a farking dork that yearns for 'good old days' that never existed, but I sure do like the concept of all the modern technology of today without the inconvenience of civil rights and all that fluffy liberal crap"
2012-11-10 02:17:22 PM  
2 votes:
So it's basically an EXACT replay of 2008? I'm actually surprised. I figured a squeaker, with a very, very real possibility that RMoney took the popular vote by up to a percentage point.

I'm sure somebody will be along to explain why this is actually bad news for Obama, but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.
2012-11-10 02:15:29 PM  
2 votes:
DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?
2012-11-10 02:12:55 PM  
2 votes:
Fitting that Romney got 47.9% of the popular vote.
2012-11-10 02:11:33 PM  
2 votes:
2012-11-10 02:01:40 PM  
2 votes:

Boxcutta: Go away, Florida. You're irrelevant.


This is the best part of the election. Both Ohio AND Florida had zero impact on deciding the race.
2012-11-10 01:57:29 PM  
2 votes:
And I predicted 332 about a year ago and posted my prediction here on fark and elsewhere.

/ Yes, this is gloating.
2012-11-10 01:29:22 PM  
2 votes:

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?


Well, according to Cheney in 2000, you only needed 51% for a "mandate."
2012-11-10 01:26:54 PM  
2 votes:
Okay, NOW it's finally over. :P
2012-11-11 08:10:41 PM  
1 votes:

jso2897: "Like every election cycle, Sergio Bendixen, who is infamously known for the inaccuracy of his polls, is once again peddling inaccurate exit polling data about Cuban-American voting trends," Mauricio Claver-Carone, executive director of Cuba Democracy Advocates, wrote on his Capitol Hill Cubans blog."

Jesus H tapdancing Christ. It hasn't even been a week, and they're back to calling the pollsters liars.
What is wrong with these people?


They are psychologically unwell.

I think the first link below was meant to be fairly tongue in cheek but the author hit the nail right on the head.

Promising new research hints at possible treatment for Conservative Personality Disorder

The Modern Conservative Movement: A Study In Antisocial Personality Disorder

Right-wing authoritarianism
2012-11-11 02:27:19 AM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: Yeah, but we're still talking about Florida here, and the GOP already went out of their way to make it hard for absentee ballots to count. You'd have lawyers fighting it out over the signatures on each and every vote-by-mail ballot cast. The system is only as good as the people who administer it.


America scores low on basic democracy tests. If we were setting up our current system today, other countries might not respect our outcomes. One reason is that unlike other mature democracies, we do not have a national standard for voting. It makes it potentially confusing for many voters (but don't tell that to Pat Buchanan, he earned those votes.)

We just need to get our election process sorted out.
2012-11-11 02:04:39 AM  
1 votes:

brianbankerus: Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail

It's NOT 50 different labs, it's one lab per county. So like a brazilian different labs.

Washington state is 100% vote by mail and it's wonderful. The only long lines are to drop them off if you wait until the last minute. Or you can take it to any post office. It really should be the law of the land.


Yeah, but we're still talking about Florida here, and the GOP already went out of their way to make it hard for absentee ballots to count. You'd have lawyers fighting it out over the signatures on each and every vote-by-mail ballot cast. The system is only as good as the people who administer it.
2012-11-11 01:42:06 AM  
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail


It's NOT 50 different labs, it's one lab per county. So like a brazilian different labs.

Washington state is 100% vote by mail and it's wonderful. The only long lines are to drop them off if you wait until the last minute. Or you can take it to any post office. It really should be the law of the land.
2012-11-11 01:06:13 AM  
1 votes:

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.


Put the bong away before you take the pic next time
2012-11-10 09:42:49 PM  
1 votes:

Guntram Shatterhand: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.


Unfortunately, I doubt they'll stay down for long. If they had any capacity for self-reflection, they would have left the GOP long ago. And midterms tend to have low turnout, which favors the Derp Side.
2012-11-10 09:06:50 PM  
1 votes:

moop: bowties were never cool.


You're thinking of Fezzes.

rainegendron.files.wordpress.com
2012-11-10 08:31:34 PM  
1 votes:

skykid: My two favorite picture from White People Mourning Romney.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

This is the new "chessecake" to me. It just screams "I'm sick of this stupid man world!"

And this.

[sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x566]

Where somehow an old lady is crossdressing as Uncle Sam!


That has got to be the funjiest f*cking tumblr in all the internetz.

Old white people who wish for a return to an america that existed only in the movies and their own failing imaginations, and young white people who are too stupid that the guys they want to put into public office so badly are the very same guys that f*cked the system up so badly that now they have to whore themselves out to find jobs that pay enough to cover their student loans just crack me the f*ck up.

To the old white people: your n*gger-free / gay-free / wetb*ck-free utopia never existed. Welcome to the 21st century.

To the young white people: Rmoney and men like him stole your future and your parents present. Think about that next time.

/I'm loving this
2012-11-10 07:54:16 PM  
1 votes:

Satosuke: You seem to think I'm a Republican biatching that the GOP's crappy candidate lost to the Dem's crappy candidate. I didn't like either choice really. I've always just thought the EC is a bad system.


I'm not suggesting you are being anything but sincere.

I just wanted to use your words as an example of some something I predict to hear a lot over the coming weeks.
2012-11-10 07:03:04 PM  
1 votes:

moop: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

bowties were never cool.


Bowties. Are. Cool.
2012-11-10 06:16:35 PM  
1 votes:

heap: thamike: It's moot which kind of landslide he had in mind because there was only one kind possible, and only for one of the candidates.

if this were charades, this would be the part where we all touch our noses and dance about frantically.

his prediction was crap in either estimation - that he can't have a 'landslide' with one victory and a 'squeaker' with another is immaterial - he's a bloviating shiatbag who bloviates shiat for a living.

for real, who on earth would even guess that the response to his terminal wrongness would be consistency on his part? and why?

i keep coming back to what is the underlining point here - it's dick freaking morris. he's doing what dick morris has done, is doing, and will continue to do - be a bloviating gasbag.


On the bright side, this is what Bill Kristol finally letting reality dawn on him looks like:

www.addictinginfo.org

See guys? It doesn't hurt one bit.
2012-11-10 06:11:28 PM  
1 votes:

thamike: It's moot which kind of landslide he had in mind because there was only one kind possible, and only for one of the candidates.


if this were charades, this would be the part where we all touch our noses and dance about frantically.

his prediction was crap in either estimation - that he can't have a 'landslide' with one victory and a 'squeaker' with another is immaterial - he's a bloviating shiatbag who bloviates shiat for a living.

for real, who on earth would even guess that the response to his terminal wrongness would be consistency on his part? and why?

i keep coming back to what is the underlining point here - it's dick freaking morris. he's doing what dick morris has done, is doing, and will continue to do - be a bloviating gasbag.
2012-11-10 06:08:16 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: I just like arguing facts and logic and honesty


the funny thing is, i actually believe you think that's what you're doing.

you have all the facts, all the logic, can summon up captain obvious and all of his obviousness...and the people that are looking at you like you just pooped on the carpet are just whiney-whinersons who wouldn't know logic if it legitimately raped their eyesockets.
2012-11-10 05:58:17 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: "I don't need to believe Dick Morris is cartoonishly stupid


again, dick morris *is* cartoonishly stupid, even with out this as an example.

it's kind of his bread and butter - it's why he has a job. he's a cartoonishly overstated buffoon - its what he does for a living.
2012-11-10 05:57:50 PM  
1 votes:
I love the one of the reasons that FLA turned blue was that the people sticking it to GOV Rick Scott for trying to suppress the vote

People dont wait 6 to 8 hours in line unless they want to make a point and pissed
2012-11-10 05:47:36 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: sugardave: "Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." You are claiming two disparate thoughts that give the same outcome, yet have no correlation? Is that what I am to understand here? (sorry, can't watch videos on the plane)

sure there's a correlation. He thought Romney would win in a landslide in the pop vote and that would lead to a large victory in the EC. The reason he thinks Romney was going to win in a landslide in the pop vote is because of special magic reading he has into poll figures. The landslide he was referring to was in the pop vote, which translates to a large win in the EC. When he wrote his mea culpa, he says I predicted a Romney landslide [5-10 points in the pop vote] and we got an Obama squeaker [2.5% in pop vote]


Okay, let us drop the mea culpa that came after he was wrong and work in the timeframe where he thought he would be right. Why claim a landslide victory ONLY in the popular vote? We've had (very recent) history where the popular vote meant jack shiat, so why would a popular vote "victory" even make a crap?
2012-11-10 05:44:36 PM  
1 votes:

acefox1:

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.


*beep* ONE
*beep* ONE
*beep* ONE
2012-11-10 05:43:05 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: heap: skullkrusher: since I don't have to assume that Dick Morris said something that is absurd right on its face, I can easily give him the benefit of the doubt

ummm...why?

that's his job. it says so right on his resume. his tax forms list 'Absurdity' as his occupation.

hehe I mean I am not trying to believe he said something as ridiculous as some would have us believe. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that he was referring to the pop vote when he made his landslide prediction and again in his post-morten when he talks about a landslide for Romney (as he predicted) vs a squeaker for Obama (which it was, more or less).
In fact, that interpretation makes the absolute most sense and requires no gymnastics whatsoever. He also predicted a large margin of EC votes for Romney but when he makes his landslide prediction he spends most of the time talking about "reading" into polls to get what he believes the true results are. High single digit leads for Romney. Polls measure popular votes. He is using his alleged insight into these polls to predict a landslide. Doesn't take a leap.

Once again the internet tries to outsmart itself


dude, for a moment, include yourself in this estimation.

you're making the case that the guy who made an electoral vote prediction wasn't talking about electoral votes, and that the guy who was wrong in both estimations by a vast stupifying margin was somehow not capable of saying stupidly wrong things.

for chrissakes, you're gonna end up stuck all pretzel shaped if you keep this up.
2012-11-10 05:42:35 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: shastacola: skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."

Of course, we also have the piece in which the sentence in question appears.

No mention of the EC at all in there. Weird.


I really want to sample some of your pills. Holy balls.
2012-11-10 05:41:04 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: propasaurus: skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

No, it really isn't.

what were all those polls showing the "horse race" measuring? I wonder.


GOP fantasies.
2012-11-10 05:39:24 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: shastacola: skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."

Of course, we also have the piece in which the sentence in question appears.

No mention of the EC at all in there. Weird.


"Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." You are claiming two disparate thoughts that give the same outcome, yet have no correlation? Is that what I am to understand here? (sorry, can't watch videos on the plane)
2012-11-10 05:27:14 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.


No, it really isn't.
2012-11-10 05:04:29 PM  
1 votes:

marius2: I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!


Why? Republican's control the state and did all they could to suppress voter turnout and it backfired.

The No. 1 cause for Florida being the last of the 50 states to count its votes in 2012 were a long ballot and changes ordered by the Legislature that swamped elections officials with time-consuming provisional and absentee ballots, experts said.

The big turnout meant more ballots to count. The especially long ballot meant more pages to scan. And a shortened early-voting window resulted in more absentee ballots, which require more time and scrutiny by elections officials before they can be counted.
2012-11-10 04:38:27 PM  
1 votes:

paulv: Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer but how did Nate Silver get all states right yet come up with 313 v. 225 as opposed to the end result of 332 v. 206?


That 313 v 225 is important; it's a numerical average of the results of his election simulator's trials. The map is not a "will win/won't win" map, it's a percentage chance map. In other words, if you take his map (produced by percentages of victory in his simulator) and add up the EVs you should get 332/206, but if you take the various totals produced from each simulation, it averages to 313/225. He called the states correctly but there were other possibilities that were nearly as likely (like losing Florida) that would have produced a lower EV total. Make sense?
2012-11-10 04:13:17 PM  
1 votes:

Satosuke: Summoner101: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.

That's barely a landslide. Definitive, yes, but barely a landslide. Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.


It's not a broken system. They played for what mattered, the EVs. It's like saying, "Ooh, the Giants won by scoring more runs, but the Tigers had just as many hits and even more home-runs in that fourth game."
2012-11-10 04:05:39 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com 

Was the best opening to any show ever.
2012-11-10 03:10:18 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: NeverDrunk23: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

They are coming back, doing the exact same song and dance. Its sad how utterly pathetic they are.

There is a 'new' attention whore ruining threads with his lies and BS currently. He'll probably be the new phil black animal ged birther idiot.

i've seen a lot of the 'i hate obama because he signed republican policies, so vote republican' pony trotting around the past few days.


Also the 'It didn't matter as both sides suck' from Romney supporters to downplay Obama's win.

The SECOND Rush's show started on Wednesday, they all chimed in with the same derp. Doesn't it bother them to be told how to feel? Don't they have ANY self respect?
2012-11-10 03:04:48 PM  
1 votes:
1. Did you see the suited elitists and 1%'ers in the small hotel ballroom where Romney was planning to make his victory speech? Contrast that to the stadium full of everyday people that surrounded Obama on election night.

2. Looking to 2016 now is the time for the rationalists in this country to change their party affiliations so that we can influence the primaries and bring into the fold some electable republican candidates and dilute the extremist wing within that body to minimize any potential damage it can further deal to this country.

3. We will move the liberal vs conservative left/right debate to one that takes place exclusively within the democratic party. Republicans of today must be forever stripped of their ability to use those words with any real authority. We will redefine these terms within popular culture to mean what we say they mean. The unity is in place - we will find or invent the differences. All future debates should be on our terms while marginalizing the crackpot party.

Conservative - Conservative of our natural resources and environment. Prefers stepping back from the grand war campaigns popularized by the Bush administration. Separates the real conservatives from the hawks.

- Favors a smaller unobtrusive government that doesn't meddle in the private lives of people on issues of individual freedom and choice. Seeks to minimize and simplify the tax structure currently in place by moving away from marriage deductions, child tax credits etc in favor of lower rates) Separate the true conservatives from the fascist social radicals.

- Tax cuts for job creators. Specifically one job = one tax cut. If that top earner didn't create a job, he doesn't deserve a tax cut. Separates true fiscal conservatives from the financial masters that are a cancer on this country, and the largest contingent of the republican money machine.
2012-11-10 02:47:51 PM  
1 votes:

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.
2012-11-10 02:46:08 PM  
1 votes:

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


it has been very quiet. even my FB conservative friends are almost completely shut down. I think they're still in shock. that should have worn off by next week though.
2012-11-10 02:40:38 PM  
1 votes:
www.inherownwords.com
2012-11-10 02:39:19 PM  
1 votes:

neenerist: MFAWG: ....but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.

Was he really that vulnerable? I wonder if the sea change in information access is finally playing a role in politics. Fact checking is as far away as the smart phone in your pocket. That's transformational. In hindsight it seems obvious the Right wing echo chamber overestimated his weakness. Just because much of the mainstream media trailed Fox's Ben Gazzy, economy, international collapse stream of diarrhea consciousness doesn't mean it reflected facts.


I'm wondering about that myself. I've been saying for a while now that control of information is going to be key to future success of political parties. But was this true of THIS election? that's less clear. I think it's safe to say that online instant fact checking DID play a part in helping to undermine Romney...but how big that role was is less clear. Remember - Romney ran a very sloppy campaign, which muddies the waters when it comes to determining other factors contributing to his loss.
2012-11-10 02:35:19 PM  
1 votes:
This is where I go to refill my bottles of Neocon tears of rage. It has every possible lulzy image/text/FB status/Tweets you can imagine. From "let's take our gunz", to photos of outrage, to those photos of "I'm gonna get so drunk tonight, I don't wanna remember what/who I do afterwards".

I personally love these:

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i.imgur.com

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Yes! Eat! Eat your sad away!

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My personal favorite :D
2012-11-10 02:28:35 PM  
1 votes:
bossip.files.wordpress.com

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.
2012-11-10 02:25:50 PM  
1 votes:
I said before the election that Obama's strong ground game in Florida might well take the state for him despite all the polls that had it leaning Romney.

And they said I was mad!

Of course they are right about that but not for this.

I'm starting to get the equivilant of a slurpee brain freeze from all the shadenfreude.

Not complaining, mind you.
2012-11-10 02:23:33 PM  
1 votes:
SUCK IT REPS!
2012-11-10 02:18:31 PM  
1 votes:

wotthefark: Has Rove called Florida yet or is he waiting for the absentee provisional ballots???


He still thinks its too early too call it and is making AP go to the decision desk to change their mind.
2012-11-10 02:08:56 PM  
1 votes:
For once, I'm going to say I don't care about numbers. If the president had won by one electoral vote, and amassed only 10 more popular votes, I'd personally still call it a landslide given the venom, irrational hatred and scheming to hinder voting put forth by the party of the Dark Side.
2012-11-10 02:05:16 PM  
1 votes:
I'll wait for the recount.
2012-11-10 02:02:47 PM  
1 votes:

Summoner101: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.


That's barely a landslide. Definitive, yes, but barely a landslide. Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.
2012-11-10 02:00:47 PM  
1 votes:

Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.


Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.
2012-11-10 01:59:24 PM  
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Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.


No, no, no. If Romney had won with 272, THAT would've been a landslide. This is clearly not a mandate at all.
2012-11-10 12:57:53 PM  
1 votes:
I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!
 
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