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2012-11-10 09:25:43 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-10 09:28:04 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.


I'm more worried when all the disillusioned Republicans who didn;t vote (I know of 3 including my own brother) all com back. If the R's would have run any one worth a shiat *cough* Huntsman *cough*, this could have been a different story. When they realize that most of the country does not want to be the most extreme, but wants to moderate (if they realize it), that is when America starts coming back together.
 
2012-11-10 09:36:04 PM  

propasaurus: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: propasaurus: Forbidden Doughnut: skykid: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

This guy not amused by that statement.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x318]

Or this guy (if he were still alive, that is)

[upload.wikimedia.org image 194x225]

/ one of the better politicians in the last 30 years, IMHO.

Is... is that Al Franken?

The late Senator Paul Simon of Illinois

Didn't click the link, didya?


Oops, and to think I'm old enough to remember when SNL was funny

/ Hangs head in shame.
 
2012-11-10 09:36:19 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Teufelaffe: DeaH: For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.

Uh...I'm not a Republican, but chocolate-bourbon pecan pie sounds awesome. Can I try some?

I do a pretty nice chocolate-bourbon pecan pie myself. I use this recipe with a few alterations. Use dark chocolate chips instead of semisweet, light corn syrup instead of dark, and brown sugar instead of white. Happy eating!


That's also pretty close to my recipe. I don't add eggs to the crust, and I use whole wheat pastry flour because it makes a really nutty-tasting crust. I use half dark corn syrup and half Lyle's golden syrup because it is delicious. Also, if there is going to be whipped cream, it's going to have a bit of bourbon in it to carry on the bourbon flavor. This is also really good with hazelnuts.
 
2012-11-10 09:38:01 PM  

paulv: Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer but how did Nate Silver get all states right yet come up with 313 v. 225 as opposed to the end result of 332 v. 206?


LOOK AT HIS BAR GRAPH. His highest probability on it was 332. 313 was an average of 25, 001 simulations. 303-18%, 332-20%, 347-15%, etc.
 
2012-11-10 09:42:49 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.


Unfortunately, I doubt they'll stay down for long. If they had any capacity for self-reflection, they would have left the GOP long ago. And midterms tend to have low turnout, which favors the Derp Side.
 
2012-11-10 09:45:14 PM  

thamike: rynthetyn: I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with people who have never traveled 50 miles from where they were born.

Depends on their reason.


And what reason could there possibly be for someone in the 21st century, with modes of transport available to nearly anyone that can move a person of their belongings across a state, over a continent, or to the other side of the planet in HOURS where just 100 years ago it would take days or weeks to make the same trip?

What logical reason could there POSSIBLY be for any person living now to never have traveled more than 50 miles from where their house or apartment is?
 
2012-11-10 09:45:31 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Oops, and to think I'm old enough to remember when SNL was funny


That's forgivable. You also seemed to have forgotten what a bag of doorknobs Paul Simon was.
 
2012-11-10 09:53:42 PM  

acefox1: Smoking GNU: acefox1: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"What are you people doing here?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"I'm done."

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

I WISH to FSM i could watch that, but everywhere it's posted it just throws me a god dammned "Not available in your region" in my face. That looks AWESOME!

My friend in London missed out on it so I put that together for her. It really was fantastic. I should have seen it coming but it still surprised me and killed me with laughter.

Only Don King can adequately descricbe what a splendificent disaster it is that The Daily Show and Colbert can't be seen overseas.

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.


If you haven't seen it, check Pirate Bay, eztv.it or elsewhere.
 
2012-11-10 09:56:45 PM  

rewind2846: And what reason could there possibly be for someone in the 21st century, with modes of transport available to nearly anyone that can move a person of their belongings across a state, over a continent, or to the other side of the planet in HOURS where just 100 years ago it would take days or weeks to make the same trip?

What logical reason could there POSSIBLY be for any person living now to never have traveled more than 50 miles from where their house or apartment is?


I forgot to add the part about it depending on where they're from as well, not that it factors too much in the following thought-- I haven't lived less than 700 miles from where I was born since I was three, spending most of my formative years 12,000 miles from it. And I still don't assume ignorance on the other guy's part solely because he stayed close to home. Some people like where they were born. That's why the reason for not leaving is key, when one is making a declarative statement about people who never leave their home.

Travel doesn't automatically equal enlightenment. Take it from somebody who has spent his entire life traveling and enduring absurd people who think the act of traveling (and even being expatriates), in and of itself, translates to worldliness.
 
2012-11-10 10:05:06 PM  

thamike: rewind2846: And what reason could there possibly be for someone in the 21st century, with modes of transport available to nearly anyone that can move a person of their belongings across a state, over a continent, or to the other side of the planet in HOURS where just 100 years ago it would take days or weeks to make the same trip?

What logical reason could there POSSIBLY be for any person living now to never have traveled more than 50 miles from where their house or apartment is?

I forgot to add the part about it depending on where they're from as well, not that it factors too much in the following thought-- I haven't lived less than 700 miles from where I was born since I was three, spending most of my formative years 12,000 miles from it. And I still don't assume ignorance on the other guy's part solely because he stayed close to home. Some people like where they were born. That's why the reason for not leaving is key, when one is making a declarative statement about people who never leave their home.

Travel doesn't automatically equal enlightenment. Take it from somebody who has spent his entire life traveling and enduring absurd people who think the act of traveling (and even being expatriates), in and of itself, translates to worldliness.


There's a difference between living close to where you were born and never having traveled more than a few miles from where you were born. If you've never even been to the next county, much less the next state, you're probably not much interested in knowing anything beyond what's in your backyard.
 
2012-11-10 10:14:52 PM  

thamike:
Travel doesn't automatically equal enlightenment. Take it from somebody who has spent his entire life traveling and enduring absurd people who think the act of traveling (and even being expatriates), in and of itself, translates to worldliness.


Not what I asked. There's a difference between going and coming back, and never leaving. If you've traveled the world, say, with the military, and then choose to stay in Mooseknuckle Iowa until you die you might have a different (read: larger) perspective on the world than if you had never left the county where Mooseknuckle is situated.

You are correct in that travel doesn't always mean you'll be a smarter person after the trip... but there's a better chance of increasing said intelligence simply by exposing your mind to things it has never experienced before.

So I ask again: what reason could there possibly be in this century for never having left where you live to see other places, people and things, even if you choose return to your origin?
 
2012-11-10 10:16:50 PM  

gittlebass: romney NEVER had a chance. If we look at nate silvers blog, which we all know now was pretty damn accurate,


Going by his blog, Romney had a 38.9% chance of winning on Oct 12. That's better than 1 in 3. That's Russian roulette with two loaded chambers. Even by election night, Romney's chance of winning was comparable to drawing an inside straight in poker. Unlikely, but it sometimes happens.
 
2012-11-10 10:30:16 PM  

Satosuke: Summoner101: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.

That's barely a landslide. Definitive, yes, but barely a landslide. Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.


Funny how all the republicans are coming out saying EC is bad, didn't see them saying let Gore in when he won the popular vote but lost the EC
 
2012-11-10 10:31:46 PM  

Doc Lee: Fitting that Romney got 47.9% of the popular vote.


Well he did say that the 47%ers have a sense of entitlement and want everything just given to them... Seems fitting.
 
2012-11-10 10:35:33 PM  

rewind2846: You are correct in that travel doesn't always mean you'll be a smarter person after the trip


I was leaning more on the "non-travel doesn't necessarily rule out intelligence and open mindedness" end of things. Sure, one's immediate priorities are likely more provincial than some others. I just don't--and I'm not saying you do--think it's a forgone conclusion that a person who hasn't ventured further than 50 miles of his home is stupid or ignorant. I'm not playing the odds here, I'm just trying to stay out of the absolutes. I think it's a bullsh*t metric, and it tends to stop an intelligent hypothesis dead in its tracks.
 
2012-11-10 11:41:32 PM  
Can we really be sure about this? Has Carl Rove analyzed this using Republican math yet?
 
2012-11-10 11:54:29 PM  
Open wide conservatards, it's time to shove a mandate down your throats.
 
2012-11-11 12:12:10 AM  
Now perhaps we can finish counting the vote in Arizona and find out how that actually turned out.
 
2012-11-11 12:31:48 AM  
And, as comment 270, this comment makes Obama the electoral college winner

/Got nothing
//Glad it wasn't the tipping point state, or else we'd have President Romney thanks to the Supremes
 
2012-11-11 12:38:26 AM  
and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.
 
2012-11-11 12:56:17 AM  

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?


Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?
 
2012-11-11 01:06:13 AM  

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.


Put the bong away before you take the pic next time
 
2012-11-11 01:08:36 AM  

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.


contradicted post is contradicting.

He went after guns but the gun business is good....?
 
2012-11-11 01:42:06 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail


It's NOT 50 different labs, it's one lab per county. So like a brazilian different labs.

Washington state is 100% vote by mail and it's wonderful. The only long lines are to drop them off if you wait until the last minute. Or you can take it to any post office. It really should be the law of the land.
 
2012-11-11 01:44:16 AM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: Can we really be sure about this? Has Carl Rove analyzed this using Republican math yet?


cdn.theatlanticwire.com

/Oblig, hot, funneh.
 
2012-11-11 02:04:39 AM  

brianbankerus: Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail

It's NOT 50 different labs, it's one lab per county. So like a brazilian different labs.

Washington state is 100% vote by mail and it's wonderful. The only long lines are to drop them off if you wait until the last minute. Or you can take it to any post office. It really should be the law of the land.


Yeah, but we're still talking about Florida here, and the GOP already went out of their way to make it hard for absentee ballots to count. You'd have lawyers fighting it out over the signatures on each and every vote-by-mail ballot cast. The system is only as good as the people who administer it.
 
2012-11-11 02:27:19 AM  

rynthetyn: Yeah, but we're still talking about Florida here, and the GOP already went out of their way to make it hard for absentee ballots to count. You'd have lawyers fighting it out over the signatures on each and every vote-by-mail ballot cast. The system is only as good as the people who administer it.


America scores low on basic democracy tests. If we were setting up our current system today, other countries might not respect our outcomes. One reason is that unlike other mature democracies, we do not have a national standard for voting. It makes it potentially confusing for many voters (but don't tell that to Pat Buchanan, he earned those votes.)

We just need to get our election process sorted out.
 
2012-11-11 10:10:38 AM  

Teufelaffe: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?

Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?


I got into it with someone the other day about just that, and they were herp-a-derping their sweet little hearts out over the "imported firearm" bit.

Until I explained to them Beretta USA manufactures the firearms for American sale...in America. They're not imported firearms, just like those made by Heckler & Koch and Fabrique Nationale. In fact, the extra regulations on imported firearms would provide the ill-needed but apparently much-desired impetus for foreign firearm manufacturers for whom Americans are key customers, like Glock and Benelli, to open manufactories in the states...making the small arms treaty a job creating treaty.

Which makes that a particularly egregious, misleading, and dishonest point on the part of the NRA, since they're the alleged "experts" on these matters. Considering they're bankrolled by major firearms and ammunition manufacturers, and PMC's, they're misinforming their own membership to protect the fiscal interests of their major contributors. Which is exactly what you'd expect from a right-wing organization, but I digress...
 
2012-11-11 02:03:06 PM  

Frederick: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.

contradicted post is contradicting.

He went after guns but the gun business is good....?


The main body of the post is the sales pitch for the marks - "OBAMA IZ COMIN FER YER GUNZ so buy some from me before it's too late!!!!"

The slashies are a tip to the smarts that he doesn't actually believe it, but that he's been getting a lot of rubes in the door with this pitch over the last four years and he anticipates getting even more over the next four.
 
2012-11-11 03:34:29 PM  

tomcatadam: Satosuke: Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.

It's certainly better than a full FPTP system, at the very least.


Why?
 
2012-11-11 08:10:41 PM  

jso2897: "Like every election cycle, Sergio Bendixen, who is infamously known for the inaccuracy of his polls, is once again peddling inaccurate exit polling data about Cuban-American voting trends," Mauricio Claver-Carone, executive director of Cuba Democracy Advocates, wrote on his Capitol Hill Cubans blog."

Jesus H tapdancing Christ. It hasn't even been a week, and they're back to calling the pollsters liars.
What is wrong with these people?


They are psychologically unwell.

I think the first link below was meant to be fairly tongue in cheek but the author hit the nail right on the head.

Promising new research hints at possible treatment for Conservative Personality Disorder

The Modern Conservative Movement: A Study In Antisocial Personality Disorder

Right-wing authoritarianism
 
2012-11-11 08:27:40 PM  

acefox1: Smoking GNU: acefox1: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"What are you people doing here?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"I'm done."

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

I WISH to FSM i could watch that, but everywhere it's posted it just throws me a god dammned "Not available in your region" in my face. That looks AWESOME!

My friend in London missed out on it so I put that together for her. It really was fantastic. I should have seen it coming but it still surprised me and killed me with laughter.

Only Don King can adequately descricbe what a splendificent disaster it is that The Daily Show and Colbert can't be seen overseas.

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.


The Daily Show and Colbert Report are screened in both the UK and Australia - Comedy Central is available as part of the standard cable TV packages.
 
2012-11-11 09:35:17 PM  

Teufelaffe: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?

Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?


Maybe he's running guns - what are those FBI and ATF tip line numbers again?
 
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