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2012-11-10 12:57:53 PM
I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!
 
2012-11-10 01:04:40 PM
that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.
 
2012-11-10 01:05:52 PM

Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.


What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?
 
2012-11-10 01:06:50 PM
media.web.britannica.com
 
2012-11-10 01:09:14 PM

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?


If you're Republican, it's one vote. If not, you have to win by eleventy billion percent.
 
2012-11-10 01:26:54 PM
Okay, NOW it's finally over. :P
 
2012-11-10 01:29:22 PM

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?


Well, according to Cheney in 2000, you only needed 51% for a "mandate."
 
2012-11-10 01:34:37 PM

NutWrench: marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?

Well, according to Cheney in 2000, you only needed 51% for a "mandate."


That ONLY applies to the GOP. But then you already knew that.
 
2012-11-10 01:54:59 PM

Captain Steroid: Okay, NOW it's finally over. :P


Party's still going though. :D
 
2012-11-10 01:55:21 PM

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?


Usually it's a double digit lead in the vote, but considering we elect with EVs, over a 100 EV lead would probably count. A 332 EV total works out to about 62% of the EVs.
 
2012-11-10 01:57:27 PM
50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.
 
2012-11-10 01:57:29 PM
And I predicted 332 about a year ago and posted my prediction here on fark and elsewhere.

/ Yes, this is gloating.
 
2012-11-10 01:59:24 PM

Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.


No, no, no. If Romney had won with 272, THAT would've been a landslide. This is clearly not a mandate at all.
 
2012-11-10 01:59:52 PM
squirrelworld.lincatz.com tag broken, Subby?
 
2012-11-10 02:00:14 PM
I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(
 
2012-11-10 02:00:41 PM
Go away, Florida. You're irrelevant.
 
2012-11-10 02:00:47 PM

Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.


Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.
 
2012-11-10 02:01:40 PM

Boxcutta: Go away, Florida. You're irrelevant.


This is the best part of the election. Both Ohio AND Florida had zero impact on deciding the race.
 
2012-11-10 02:01:46 PM
YOU LIE! (freeper tears).
 
2012-11-10 02:02:47 PM

Summoner101: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.


That's barely a landslide. Definitive, yes, but barely a landslide. Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.
 
2012-11-10 02:04:32 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: [squirrelworld.lincatz.com image 54x11] tag broken, Subby?


Hah, nice one. Looks like a mod fixed it for me.
 
2012-11-10 02:05:16 PM
I'll wait for the recount.
 
2012-11-10 02:05:20 PM
Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail
 
2012-11-10 02:05:50 PM

Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...

50.7 to 48.3 was considered a landslide in 2004.
 
2012-11-10 02:07:27 PM
I submitted this with a worse headline.
 
2012-11-10 02:08:36 PM
seriously - this counts as a landslide victory by almost any way you'd care to measure. Obama took what? over 60% of the electoral collage votes? even if you don't want to use the term 'landslide victory' you still have to admit that it's a crushing defeat for Romney and the Republican party. this is a firm rejection of all things Republican.
 
2012-11-10 02:08:38 PM

Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.


Bingo. If we had 90% voter turnout, evenly distributed among people regardless of race, income, or education level, the popular vote would look far more lopsided. As it is, people who would vote Obama or third party in "safe Red" states probably didn't leave their homes. Which is sad, when you consider that local/state elections will affect anyone more directly than federal elections.
 
2012-11-10 02:08:56 PM
For once, I'm going to say I don't care about numbers. If the president had won by one electoral vote, and amassed only 10 more popular votes, I'd personally still call it a landslide given the venom, irrational hatred and scheming to hinder voting put forth by the party of the Dark Side.
 
2012-11-10 02:09:08 PM

Satosuke: Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.


It's certainly better than a full FPTP system, at the very least.
 
2012-11-10 02:09:27 PM

Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(


DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.
 
2012-11-10 02:10:56 PM
They have Olympic medal counts on that page. Some serious NEWS right there.
 
2012-11-10 02:11:33 PM
 
2012-11-10 02:11:47 PM
Has Rove called Florida yet or is he waiting for the absentee provisional ballots???
 
2012-11-10 02:12:55 PM
Fitting that Romney got 47.9% of the popular vote.
 
2012-11-10 02:13:04 PM
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I love it
 
2012-11-10 02:13:09 PM
Obama wins Fla., topping Romney

Giggity.
 
2012-11-10 02:13:57 PM

wotthefark: Has Rove called Florida yet or is he waiting for the absentee provisional ballots???


If after the success of 2000, if you can't have a governor like Scott suppress enough votes for you, your goose is cooked.
 
2012-11-10 02:15:29 PM
DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?
 
2012-11-10 02:15:34 PM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-10 02:15:56 PM

doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.


Well DAMN. That's impressive.
 
2012-11-10 02:16:16 PM

doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.


Doesn't matter to me either way really; just the fact Obama won AND the RWers crying in their spilled milk is joy enough. :)
 
2012-11-10 02:16:53 PM

clkeagle: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Bingo. If we had 90% voter turnout, evenly distributed among people regardless of race, income, or education level, the popular vote would look far more lopsided. As it is, people who would vote Obama or third party in "safe Red" states probably didn't leave their homes. Which is sad, when you consider that local/state elections will affect anyone more directly than federal elections.


Funny, that supports my idea that the average citizen shouldn't bother voting for the president. I think we should only be allowed to vote for our state and/or city representatives, and they in turn would be the ones voting for the president. Definitely not an ironclad idea, but it might actually give our rep. and senate elections more gravitas.


tomcatadam: Satosuke: Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.

It's certainly better than a full FPTP system, at the very least.


I'd either go with my incremental idea above, or some sort of second vote option system with a threshold popular vote percentage needed to secure the election, where if one's party is obviously out of it by a wide margin, one can switch their vote to a second option on the ballot. Again, not perfect either, but both the EC and FPTP ensure either disastrous minority rule or the inevitability of a two-party system.
 
2012-11-10 02:17:04 PM

shower_in_my_socks: So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?



I should read my post before I post it. I don't know what "Obama's f" is but I had a good point in there somewhere.
 
2012-11-10 02:17:22 PM
So it's basically an EXACT replay of 2008? I'm actually surprised. I figured a squeaker, with a very, very real possibility that RMoney took the popular vote by up to a percentage point.

I'm sure somebody will be along to explain why this is actually bad news for Obama, but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.
 
2012-11-10 02:18:01 PM

Marcus Aurelius: [media.web.britannica.com image 550x379]


Landslide, not Santorum-slide.

/hurk
 
2012-11-10 02:18:31 PM

wotthefark: Has Rove called Florida yet or is he waiting for the absentee provisional ballots???


He still thinks its too early too call it and is making AP go to the decision desk to change their mind.
 
2012-11-10 02:19:06 PM

shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?


He needs to go back to licking feet, that selfish bastard.
 
2012-11-10 02:20:13 PM

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I love it


Look at all the sad white people. It's hilarious.
 
2012-11-10 02:20:25 PM
the right says the win with over 100 electoral votes isnt a mandate, but when bush won by less than 10 it was a mandate
 
2012-11-10 02:21:27 PM

Rwa2play: doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.

Doesn't matter to me either way really; just the fact Obama won AND the RWers crying in their spilled milk is joy enough. :)


Yeah, when I realized I was out of the running my efforts in tabulating became a labor of love. The way I see it, the mental collapse of right-wingers since Tuesday makes us all TotalFarkers on the inside.
 
2012-11-10 02:21:40 PM
Bush claims mandate with a 286/252 Electoral College win and 3.5 million popular vote lead. "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."

Obama asks nicely for mandate with 332/206 Electoral College win and 3.2 million (so far) popular vote lead.  "So we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together." 
 
2012-11-10 02:22:26 PM

gittlebass: the right says the win with over 100 electoral votes isnt a mandate, but when bush won by less than 10 it was a mandate


Hell, when they lost the popular vote in 2000 it was a mandate. Farking hypocrites.
 
2012-11-10 02:23:33 PM
SUCK IT REPS!
 
2012-11-10 02:23:39 PM

Wireless Joe: Bush claims mandate with a 286/252 Electoral College win and 3.5 million popular vote lead. "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."


You forget that it was a mandate from God.
 
2012-11-10 02:25:50 PM
I said before the election that Obama's strong ground game in Florida might well take the state for him despite all the polls that had it leaning Romney.

And they said I was mad!

Of course they are right about that but not for this.

I'm starting to get the equivilant of a slurpee brain freeze from all the shadenfreude.

Not complaining, mind you.
 
2012-11-10 02:27:48 PM

doyner: Wireless Joe: Bush claims mandate with a 286/252 Electoral College win and 3.5 million popular vote lead. "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."

You forget that it was a mandate from God.


Exactly. Obama's mandate is from illegals, chicks, and queers. So not a mandate at all, really.
 
2012-11-10 02:28:35 PM
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Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.
 
2012-11-10 02:31:54 PM

Rwa2play: doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.

Doesn't matter to me either way really; just the fact Obama won AND the RWers crying in their spilled milk is joy enough. :)


Oh, don't mistake what I said for disappointment. The changing electorate keeping the White House and Senate away from the nutters has me happy enough as is.
 
2012-11-10 02:34:57 PM

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Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.


Bowtie on a politician often means "I am a farking dork that yearns for 'good old days' that never existed, but I sure do like the concept of all the modern technology of today without the inconvenience of civil rights and all that fluffy liberal crap"
 
2012-11-10 02:35:19 PM
This is where I go to refill my bottles of Neocon tears of rage. It has every possible lulzy image/text/FB status/Tweets you can imagine. From "let's take our gunz", to photos of outrage, to those photos of "I'm gonna get so drunk tonight, I don't wanna remember what/who I do afterwards".

I personally love these:

24.media.tumblr.com

24.media.tumblr.com

i.imgur.com

24.media.tumblr.com
Yes! Eat! Eat your sad away!

25.media.tumblr.com
My personal favorite :D
 
2012-11-10 02:35:37 PM

Smelly McUgly: Rwa2play: doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.

Doesn't matter to me either way really; just the fact Obama won AND the RWers crying in their spilled milk is joy enough. :)

Oh, don't mistake what I said for disappointment. The changing electorate keeping the White House and Senate away from the nutters has me happy enough as is.


Here's the problem: alot of that electorate is Hispanic and Asian, 2 groups that are somewhat notable for being extremely socially conservative.

That actually could be bad news for Obama.
 
2012-11-10 02:35:43 PM

MFAWG: ....but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.


Was he really that vulnerable? I wonder if the sea change in information access is finally playing a role in politics. Fact checking is as far away as the smart phone in your pocket. That's transformational. In hindsight it seems obvious the Right wing echo chamber overestimated his weakness. Just because much of the mainstream media trailed Fox's Ben Gazzy, economy, international collapse stream of diarrhea consciousness doesn't mean it reflected facts.
 
2012-11-10 02:36:13 PM
~o^o

deal with it
 
2012-11-10 02:37:38 PM
Crap. I think if it would have gone the other way, I would have won the FARK EV count poll.
 
2012-11-10 02:37:48 PM
FTA: When reached by phone Saturday, Mitt Romney's communications director Gail Gitcho said the campaign had no comment.

What!? The phone hasn't been disconnected yet?
 
2012-11-10 02:37:53 PM

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I love it


Glorious. I don't care I'm gloating. I heard enough shiat from neocons prior to the election.
 
2012-11-10 02:39:05 PM
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She looks like she's about to start moving like Bernie. That's what happens when butthurt consumes you
 
2012-11-10 02:39:19 PM

neenerist: MFAWG: ....but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.

Was he really that vulnerable? I wonder if the sea change in information access is finally playing a role in politics. Fact checking is as far away as the smart phone in your pocket. That's transformational. In hindsight it seems obvious the Right wing echo chamber overestimated his weakness. Just because much of the mainstream media trailed Fox's Ben Gazzy, economy, international collapse stream of diarrhea consciousness doesn't mean it reflected facts.


I'm wondering about that myself. I've been saying for a while now that control of information is going to be key to future success of political parties. But was this true of THIS election? that's less clear. I think it's safe to say that online instant fact checking DID play a part in helping to undermine Romney...but how big that role was is less clear. Remember - Romney ran a very sloppy campaign, which muddies the waters when it comes to determining other factors contributing to his loss.
 
2012-11-10 02:39:51 PM

neenerist: MFAWG: ....but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.

Was he really that vulnerable? I wonder if the sea change in information access is finally playing a role in politics. Fact checking is as far away as the smart phone in your pocket. That's transformational. In hindsight it seems obvious the Right wing echo chamber overestimated his weakness. Just because much of the mainstream media trailed Fox's Ben Gazzy, economy, international collapse stream of diarrhea consciousness doesn't mean it reflected facts.


By any metric, Obama was a vulnerable incumbent.
 
2012-11-10 02:39:52 PM
I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.
 
2012-11-10 02:40:38 PM
www.inherownwords.com
 
2012-11-10 02:41:17 PM

MFAWG: Here's the problem: alot of that electorate is Hispanic and Asian, 2 groups that are somewhat notable for being extremely socially conservative.

That actually could be bad news for Obama.



It's unlikely that he'll win another term.
 
2012-11-10 02:42:10 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


a couple of them have been showing up with the same derp. After they get tired of kicking their dogs at home they will all be back.
 
2012-11-10 02:43:05 PM

doyner: Wireless Joe: Bush claims mandate with a 286/252 Electoral College win and 3.5 million popular vote lead. "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."

You forget that it was a mandate from God.


Well you can consider a 332/206 Electoral College win a mandate from God as well. Only this time it's a mandate for the Teabaggers to STFU and GBW.

/DIAF would also be accepted from the Teabaggers
 
2012-11-10 02:43:08 PM

MFAWG: neenerist: MFAWG: ....but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.

Was he really that vulnerable? I wonder if the sea change in information access is finally playing a role in politics. Fact checking is as far away as the smart phone in your pocket. That's transformational. In hindsight it seems obvious the Right wing echo chamber overestimated his weakness. Just because much of the mainstream media trailed Fox's Ben Gazzy, economy, international collapse stream of diarrhea consciousness doesn't mean it reflected facts.

By any metric, Obama was a vulnerable incumbent.


Stupid phone. Sluggish economy, high unemployment, and slightly fuzzy foreign policy made him vulnerable to a good, solid candidate. None came forward, though. Instead the GOP had a stable of crazies and the next guy in line. They did what they always do and went with the next guy in line, who was a seriously terrible, terrible candidate. Dukakis levels terrible.
 
2012-11-10 02:43:34 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: MFAWG: Here's the problem: alot of that electorate is Hispanic and Asian, 2 groups that are somewhat notable for being extremely socially conservative.

That actually could be bad news for Obama.


It's unlikely that he'll win another term.


I pray (figuratively) that Obama just thinks about he doesn't need to get re-elected and does what he thinks is right. Ignores the left and right screaming at him.
 
2012-11-10 02:44:13 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: MFAWG: Here's the problem: alot of that electorate is Hispanic and Asian, 2 groups that are somewhat notable for being extremely socially conservative.

That actually could be bad news for Obama.


It's unlikely that he'll win another term.


There are still the mid-terms, and a caretaker Bush41 type successor to consider.
 
2012-11-10 02:44:40 PM
I just had to share this from one of my FB "friends." Talk about butthurt...
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2012-11-10 02:44:40 PM

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I love it

Glorious. I don't care I'm gloating. I heard enough shiat from neocons prior to the election.


I think a lot of Americans have the right, nay, the obligation, to rub it in their faces. The right wing did it in the past midterms, they kept taunting the dynamite monkey up until the elections, and even rattled the cage just a bit more during the elections, but, as the saying goes on Fark...

daveintexas.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-10 02:45:16 PM

marius2: I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!



Like I said in another thread, realize that most states are still counting their ballots, including Florida.  They're at 97% in last I checked.  Its just that it was so close, it took that many to be counted to unofficially call it.
 
Note Illinois is at 93% or so in.  But there's no doubt who will win it.  But technically Obama nor Romney have "won" any state unless 100% are counted.
 
2012-11-10 02:45:32 PM
332 X 2 + 2 = 666
He is the devil! I knew it!
 
2012-11-10 02:46:08 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


it has been very quiet. even my FB conservative friends are almost completely shut down. I think they're still in shock. that should have worn off by next week though.
 
2012-11-10 02:46:12 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


I have them in yellow. And cool people in a nice shade of blue or orange.
 
2012-11-10 02:46:25 PM

downstairs: marius2: I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!


Like I said in another thread, realize that most states are still counting their ballots, including Florida.  They're at 97% in last I checked.  Its just that it was so close, it took that many to be counted to unofficially call it.
 
Note Illinois is at 93% or so in.  But there's no doubt who will win it.  But technically Obama nor Romney have "won" any state unless 100% are counted.


Well, Obama doesn't "need" Illinois at this point anyway.
 
2012-11-10 02:47:18 PM

Weaver95: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

it has been very quiet. even my FB conservative friends are almost completely shut down. I think they're still in shock. that should have worn off by next week though.


Not the case for me. They've gone full retard.
 
2012-11-10 02:47:51 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.
 
2012-11-10 02:49:41 PM

doyner: Weaver95: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

it has been very quiet. even my FB conservative friends are almost completely shut down. I think they're still in shock. that should have worn off by next week though.

Not the case for me. They've gone full retard.


sorry man. mine have been quiet and somewhat in shock.
 
2012-11-10 02:50:17 PM
america, where you can outright say you'll make women keep their rape babies and still get 47% of the vote. what the shiat.
 
2012-11-10 02:53:23 PM

MFAWG: Smelly McUgly: Rwa2play: doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.

Doesn't matter to me either way really; just the fact Obama won AND the RWers crying in their spilled milk is joy enough. :)

Oh, don't mistake what I said for disappointment. The changing electorate keeping the White House and Senate away from the nutters has me happy enough as is.

Here's the problem: alot of that electorate is Hispanic and Asian, 2 groups that are somewhat notable for being extremely socially conservative.

That actually could be bad news for Obama.


Meh, only the first or second generation tend to be conservative. Every immigrant group is like this at first. Then they discover the joy of American vices. They end up looking like any other group, politically.
 
2012-11-10 02:55:07 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-11-10 02:55:24 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


They are coming back, doing the exact same song and dance. Its sad how utterly pathetic they are.

There is a 'new' attention whore ruining threads with his lies and BS currently. He'll probably be the new phil black animal ged birther idiot.
 
2012-11-10 02:56:13 PM

BolloxReader: MFAWG: Smelly McUgly: Rwa2play: doyner: Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(

DY is yet to make his final call, but the winner was projected already.

Doesn't matter to me either way really; just the fact Obama won AND the RWers crying in their spilled milk is joy enough. :)

Oh, don't mistake what I said for disappointment. The changing electorate keeping the White House and Senate away from the nutters has me happy enough as is.

Here's the problem: alot of that electorate is Hispanic and Asian, 2 groups that are somewhat notable for being extremely socially conservative.

That actually could be bad news for Obama.

Meh, only the first or second generation tend to be conservative. Every immigrant group is like this at first. Then they discover the joy of American vices. They end up looking like any other group, politically.


Honestly had not considered that. Not calling you out, but do you have some type of article one could read on that subject that's somewhat devoid of a political agenda?

Again, meant as an honest request.
 
2012-11-10 02:56:30 PM
The best thing about watching this election was that it was over by 11:30 EST, quick and clean. I went to bed that night secure in the knowledge that FL wouldn't be able to report in for days, per usual, but glory hallelujah that was just OK because it simply didn't matter.
 
2012-11-10 02:57:22 PM

BolloxReader: Meh, only the first or second generation tend to be conservative. Every immigrant group is like this at first. Then they discover the joy of American vices. They end up looking like any other group, politically.


Hell, I'm no American, but I full know well the joy of American Vices (I blame no one but me, so there), and I endorse the ones that are enjoyable enough.

/War is an American Vice
//And one we can all agree it's not good
 
2012-11-10 02:57:24 PM

NeverDrunk23: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

They are coming back, doing the exact same song and dance. Its sad how utterly pathetic they are.

There is a 'new' attention whore ruining threads with his lies and BS currently. He'll probably be the new phil black animal ged birther idiot.


i've seen a lot of the 'i hate obama because he signed republican policies, so vote republican' pony trotting around the past few days.
 
2012-11-10 03:00:26 PM
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2012-11-10 03:04:48 PM
1. Did you see the suited elitists and 1%'ers in the small hotel ballroom where Romney was planning to make his victory speech? Contrast that to the stadium full of everyday people that surrounded Obama on election night.

2. Looking to 2016 now is the time for the rationalists in this country to change their party affiliations so that we can influence the primaries and bring into the fold some electable republican candidates and dilute the extremist wing within that body to minimize any potential damage it can further deal to this country.

3. We will move the liberal vs conservative left/right debate to one that takes place exclusively within the democratic party. Republicans of today must be forever stripped of their ability to use those words with any real authority. We will redefine these terms within popular culture to mean what we say they mean. The unity is in place - we will find or invent the differences. All future debates should be on our terms while marginalizing the crackpot party.

Conservative - Conservative of our natural resources and environment. Prefers stepping back from the grand war campaigns popularized by the Bush administration. Separates the real conservatives from the hawks.

- Favors a smaller unobtrusive government that doesn't meddle in the private lives of people on issues of individual freedom and choice. Seeks to minimize and simplify the tax structure currently in place by moving away from marriage deductions, child tax credits etc in favor of lower rates) Separate the true conservatives from the fascist social radicals.

- Tax cuts for job creators. Specifically one job = one tax cut. If that top earner didn't create a job, he doesn't deserve a tax cut. Separates true fiscal conservatives from the financial masters that are a cancer on this country, and the largest contingent of the republican money machine.
 
2012-11-10 03:05:50 PM
Mandate.
 
2012-11-10 03:05:53 PM
The GOP is must be blue because Florida is.
 
2012-11-10 03:07:04 PM
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Right this way, Mr. Romney.
 
2012-11-10 03:09:53 PM
Obama has a clear win. The Senate picked up Democratic seats and has a Democratic majority. The House is still Republican, but it has fewer Republicans holding seats. America looked at both sides and made its choice. It wants Democratic policies and guiding principles, not Republican ones. Anyone who says this is not a mandate is currently reading America the way the Republicans read America right before the election. This is not gloating. It is not schadenfreude. It is a fact.

Democrats did not try to suppress the Republican vote, Democrats did not play any shenanigans with the voting machines. There is no evidence for rampant election fraud from the Democratic side, and the suppress-the-vote, ballot tampering, and registration shenanigans as any kind of concerted movement did not come from Democrats. Billionaire-funded Super PACs were overwhelmingly supporting Republicans, not Democrats. Being outspent is certainly not an excuse. No, the Democrats won, and they won comparatively cleanly. The Supreme Court did not appoint Obama. The election games in Ohio were not done by a Democratic Secretary of State. The fact is that Democrats won because they made a better case, and the American people chose them. You don't get to cry "Voter suppression!" by completely changing the definition of voter suppression.

Look, I do think it is unseemly for Democrats to gloat and take joy in their neighbor's sadness over losing. But, even if all of the liberals and Obama-supporters were incredibly gracious on down to the last man or woman, even if each and every one of them brought hugs and pie to every single disappointing Republican, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't matter because even when reality hits them with the Mack truck of the facts of this election, they refuse to see what it means about their world view. Many in the party are still spinning their own alternate universe where they were victimized, where Romney won, where no one supports Obama except "takers" intent on buggering "makers." If my guys were 100% wrong in their mathematical projections, I would be looking for better guys to do the math. I wouldn't be looking for guys intent on proving that the bad math was really good math.

For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.
 
2012-11-10 03:10:04 PM

MFAWG: Sluggish economy


Ok, compare '84 to '80. Now compare '12 to '08. Its all relativity and perception.

high unemployment

Went from 7.5 in Nov '80 to 7.4 in Nov '84. From 3.9 in Nov '00 to 5.5 in Nov '04. From 6.5 in Nov '08 to 7.9 now.

and slightly fuzzy foreign policy

By '84, Reagan only had the Lebanon disaster and one rescued Caribbean country to his name. Ronbo didn't really kick in until his second-term.

None came forward, though

At which point you have to ask yourself why.
 
2012-11-10 03:10:18 PM

BlippityBleep: NeverDrunk23: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

They are coming back, doing the exact same song and dance. Its sad how utterly pathetic they are.

There is a 'new' attention whore ruining threads with his lies and BS currently. He'll probably be the new phil black animal ged birther idiot.

i've seen a lot of the 'i hate obama because he signed republican policies, so vote republican' pony trotting around the past few days.


Also the 'It didn't matter as both sides suck' from Romney supporters to downplay Obama's win.

The SECOND Rush's show started on Wednesday, they all chimed in with the same derp. Doesn't it bother them to be told how to feel? Don't they have ANY self respect?
 
2012-11-10 03:11:45 PM

Smelly McUgly: I called this, but I think I missed my popular vote prediction (50.2 to 48.6). Dang, no free month of TF for me. :(


Only if someone did better than that. Do you know? You could be walking around with a free month of TFER and not even know it. Now I'm nervous for you. What are you going to with it if you win?
 
2012-11-10 03:12:07 PM
Also, from reading 538 and Professor Wang's site, I thought it was doubtful that Obama could carry Florida. I'm surprised in a good way that he actually did.
 
2012-11-10 03:13:12 PM

Free Radical: Mandate.


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"Yes, please?"
 
2012-11-10 03:14:19 PM

NeverDrunk23: There is a 'new' attention whore ruining threads with his lies and BS currently. He'll probably be the new phil black animal ged birther idiot.


Oh, Goofy Christ? Yeah, that braindead cocksucker sure is shiatting up every thread in the tab. He's probably all potted up. Gets a lot of bites, though, I'll give the cretin that much.
 
2012-11-10 03:14:24 PM

Weaver95: I'm wondering about that myself. I've been saying for a while now that control of information is going to be key to future success of political parties. But was this true of THIS election?


For me, yes. The Republican perspective deeply affected traditional media. Extremely pervasive Fox and AM talk radio pulled the perspective far to the right of neutral. CBS 'This Morning' was an education on clumsy ways to present one party in a poor light using juxtaposition, placement, photo selections, etc.. Ironically, about the only 'non-aligned' news outlet that didn't follow was Democracy Now, who consistently criticized both candidates before tilting towards the fringe.
All the majors, for example, read from the Right's playbook on labor participation and the 'unchanged' unemployment since Obama took office - both false - with no apparent effect. These messages saturated the airways for months; the Right was highly effective in controlling the traditional narrative. It's possible the electorate chose to ignore dire signs to vote on feeling, or there was a countervailing influence.
One way to know for sure is if the Republicans renew their attack on freedom of expression and anonymity on the Internet in the guise of terrorist pirate child molesters. I would almost bet on it.
 
2012-11-10 03:18:35 PM

Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.


Go look up any electoral college landslide in history and marvel how the popular vote is less than 60%

Thats the beauty of, and the failure of, the winner take all voting system we have.

Either accept when you lose the same as when you win, or quit biatching entirely. I suspect a whole lot of these same complainers would have been absofarking lutely delighted had Romney managed a 332 electoral vote win. MANDATE!

But because the black guy and his merry band of tax and spend dimocrats are the actual national winner, you all pout like whiny babies who got denied your toy.
 
2012-11-10 03:18:58 PM

TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.


This guy not amused by that statement.

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2012-11-10 03:19:03 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MFAWG: Sluggish economy

Ok, compare '84 to '80. Now compare '12 to '08. Its all relativity and perception.

high unemployment

Went from 7.5 in Nov '80 to 7.4 in Nov '84. From 3.9 in Nov '00 to 5.5 in Nov '04. From 6.5 in Nov '08 to 7.9 now.

and slightly fuzzy foreign policy

By '84, Reagan only had the Lebanon disaster and one rescued Caribbean country to his name. Ronbo didn't really kick in until his second-term.

None came forward, though

At which point you have to ask yourself why.


I suspect fear of the primaries and the 'Base' as much as any concern about Barry Hussein.

Pawlenty was a reasonable sounding guy, and couldn't get out of the gate in Iowa.
 
2012-11-10 03:19:30 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Also, from reading 538 and Professor Wang's site, I thought it was doubtful that Obama could carry Florida. I'm surprised in a good way that he actually did.


Same here.

All the polls seemed to suggest Romney would win FL until the last few polls came out. 

I really wonder if Sandy had any effect.
 
2012-11-10 03:22:36 PM

Weaver95: I'm wondering about that myself. I've been saying for a while now that control of information is going to be key to future success of political parties. But was this true of THIS election? that's less clear. I think it's safe to say that online instant fact checking DID play a part in helping to undermine Romney...but how big that role was is less clear. Remember - Romney ran a very sloppy campaign, which muddies the waters when it comes to determining other factors contributing to his loss.


I have zero doubt this is playing a significant factor. a friend of mine in afghanistan was all fired up that obama signed the NDAA, and i told him i hated it as well but i hate the republicans that pushed the bs through even more. he had no idea obama threatened to veto it (and didn't, unfortunately), and that democrats tried to rally and knock it down. he said he'd look into it but he only knew what he read over there. farking propaganda is still working even though we have the internet.
 
2012-11-10 03:26:00 PM
My two favorite picture from White People Mourning Romney.

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This is the new "chessecake" to me. It just screams "I'm sick of this stupid man world!"

And this.

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Where somehow an old lady is crossdressing as Uncle Sam!
 
2012-11-10 03:26:40 PM

TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.


i820.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-10 03:28:48 PM

Mrtraveler01: All the polls seemed to suggest Romney would win FL until the last few polls came out.


538's November polls had Obama leading in 5, Romney in 4, and 3 ties. Granted 2 of Romney's had a big lead for him (6 and 5) and all of Obama's were slim (2 and 1), but that's far from ALL.
 
2012-11-10 03:28:50 PM

MFAWG: I suspect fear of the primaries and the 'Base' as much as any concern about Barry Hussein.


That didn't deter Mitt Romney. It also didn't stop him from roundhousing Santorum.

Pawlenty was a reasonable sounding guy, and couldn't get out of the gate in Iowa.

Tim Pawlenty makes drying paint look exciting. Where was Chris Christie? Marco Rubio? Paul Ryan?
 
2012-11-10 03:32:08 PM
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2012-11-10 03:41:13 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: MFAWG: Sluggish economy

Ok, compare '84 to '80. Now compare '12 to '08. Its all relativity and perception.

high unemployment

Went from 7.5 in Nov '80 to 7.4 in Nov '84. From 3.9 in Nov '00 to 5.5 in Nov '04. From 6.5 in Nov '08 to 7.9 now.

and slightly fuzzy foreign policy

By '84, Reagan only had the Lebanon disaster and one rescued Caribbean country to his name. Ronbo didn't really kick in until his second-term.

None came forward, though

At which point you have to ask yourself why.


I'm as happy as any other farklib that Obama won, but I also thought the President was vulnerable to a solid Republican candidate. Americans tend to vote on pocketbook issues and they have short memories. The economic recovery is slow and uneven - some jobs will not be coming back and lots of people are still hurting. Low information voters would lean toward blaming the incumbent rather than analyzing the root causes of the economic collapse and subsequent slow recovery. Finally, the Obama administration seemed to have a hard time getting out the message that the economy really was improving under the President's stewardship.

2012 could have become a "throw the bums out" election. Fortunately for Democrats, the party of legitimate rape, vaginal ultrasounds, self-deportation, dominionism, voter supression, tax breaks for millionaires, and assorted derpity-derp did themselves in. It would have been closer if Republicans hadn't alienated vast swaths of the electorate.
 
2012-11-10 03:42:52 PM
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2012-11-10 03:45:43 PM
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It was a very good year.
 
2012-11-10 03:47:57 PM

Corvus: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

a couple of them have been showing up with the same derp. After they get tired of kicking farking their dogs at home they will all be back.


Didn't you hear the news...it's all over for the chicken. :(
 
2012-11-10 03:53:52 PM

Generation_D: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Go look up any electoral college landslide in history and marvel how the popular vote is less than 60%

Thats the beauty of, and the failure of, the winner take all voting system we have.

Either accept when you lose the same as when you win, or quit biatching entirely. I suspect a whole lot of these same complainers would have been absofarking lutely delighted had Romney managed a 332 electoral vote win. MANDATE!

But because the black guy and his merry band of tax and spend dimocrats are the actual national winner, you all pout like whiny babies who got denied your toy.


You seem to think I'm a Republican biatching that the GOP's crappy candidate lost to the Dem's crappy candidate. I didn't like either choice really. I've always just thought the EC is a bad system.
 
2012-11-10 03:55:07 PM

doyner: I just had to share this from one of my FB "friends." Talk about butthurt...
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Now THAT merits a "Wow...just, WOW~!"

/facepalm
 
2012-11-10 03:55:45 PM
www.meh.ro
 
2012-11-10 04:01:13 PM

Captain Steroid: Okay, NOW it's finally over. :P


Technically, those results are based on the supposition that the electors will vote the party line they've pledged to vote. I'm not saying that things are going to about face at some point, but it really isn't over yet. (I'll admit that 99% of votes cast by electors have been for the candidate the party required them to pledge their vote for)
 
2012-11-10 04:05:39 PM
i.imgur.com 

Was the best opening to any show ever.
 
2012-11-10 04:08:56 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.


They'll be back soon enough. With all new names and bellies full of derp.
 
2012-11-10 04:11:14 PM
Why are there no pictures about all the black people and mexicans mourning Romney's loss?

Seriously, Why? All Romney's mourners look like shallow old bigots that just want government cash.
 
2012-11-10 04:13:17 PM

Satosuke: Summoner101: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.

That's barely a landslide. Definitive, yes, but barely a landslide. Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.


It's not a broken system. They played for what mattered, the EVs. It's like saying, "Ooh, the Giants won by scoring more runs, but the Tigers had just as many hits and even more home-runs in that fourth game."
 
2012-11-10 04:17:37 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: [i.imgur.com image 510x272] 

Was the best opening to any show ever.


That whole episode was one of the tops IMHO.

I almost lost it when he casually flipped off the audience.
 
2012-11-10 04:24:15 PM

CygnusDarius: This is where I go to refill my bottles of Neocon tears of rage. It has every possible lulzy image/text/FB status/Tweets you can imagine. From "let's take our gunz", to photos of outrage, to those photos of "I'm gonna get so drunk tonight, I don't wanna remember what/who I do afterwards".

I personally love these:

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Yes! Eat! Eat your sad away!

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My personal favorite :D


So, is that last one your real name or were you borrowing somebody else's computer?
 
2012-11-10 04:27:55 PM
"Like every election cycle, Sergio Bendixen, who is infamously known for the inaccuracy of his polls, is once again peddling inaccurate exit polling data about Cuban-American voting trends," Mauricio Claver-Carone, executive director of Cuba Democracy Advocates, wrote on his Capitol Hill Cubans blog."

Jesus H tapdancing Christ. It hasn't even been a week, and they're back to calling the pollsters liars.
What is wrong with these people?
 
2012-11-10 04:28:10 PM

Satosuke: You seem to think I'm a Republican biatching that the GOP's crappy candidate lost to the Dem's crappy candidate. I didn't like either choice really. I've always just thought the EC is a bad system.


Maybe you need to learn more about it.
 
2012-11-10 04:32:44 PM

jso2897: "Like every election cycle, Sergio Bendixen, who is infamously known for the inaccuracy of his polls, is once again peddling inaccurate exit polling data about Cuban-American voting trends," Mauricio Claver-Carone, executive director of Cuba Democracy Advocates, wrote on his Capitol Hill Cubans blog."

Jesus H tapdancing Christ. It hasn't even been a week, and they're back to calling the pollsters liars.
What is wrong with these people?


Doesn't surprise me. Losing the Cuban-American vote to Obama just provides more of an example of how big of an epic fail it was for the GOP in this election.
 
2012-11-10 04:32:48 PM
I listened to the first fifteen or so minutes of Rush on Wednesday, just because I was curious as to what he would say.

Much like Linus, he drew no good conclusions from that failure of a night. He's forever a child waiting for the Great Reagan to rise out of pumpkin patch.
 
2012-11-10 04:34:08 PM
Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer but how did Nate Silver get all states right yet come up with 313 v. 225 as opposed to the end result of 332 v. 206?
 
2012-11-10 04:34:22 PM

kliq: I listened to the first fifteen or so minutes of Rush on Wednesday, just because I was curious as to what he would say.

Much like Linus, he drew no good conclusions from that failure of a night. He's forever a child waiting for the Great Reagan to rise out of pumpkin patch.


Even Reagan would give him a cockpunch.
 
2012-11-10 04:38:27 PM

paulv: Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer but how did Nate Silver get all states right yet come up with 313 v. 225 as opposed to the end result of 332 v. 206?


That 313 v 225 is important; it's a numerical average of the results of his election simulator's trials. The map is not a "will win/won't win" map, it's a percentage chance map. In other words, if you take his map (produced by percentages of victory in his simulator) and add up the EVs you should get 332/206, but if you take the various totals produced from each simulation, it averages to 313/225. He called the states correctly but there were other possibilities that were nearly as likely (like losing Florida) that would have produced a lower EV total. Make sense?
 
2012-11-10 04:39:37 PM
Wait, now. Hold it. *Tweet* -Time Out. The results in Florida are supposed to be certified by the Florida Secretary of State, IIRC. Who was appointed by the Governor of Florida, who is on record as saying he would ignore Federal healthcare law, after buying the Office of Governor with a small fortune made from Federal healthcare fraud?

/Florida Tag says Marco Rubio is automatically our new U.S. President.

//sigh
 
2012-11-10 04:40:30 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: paulv: Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer but how did Nate Silver get all states right yet come up with 313 v. 225 as opposed to the end result of 332 v. 206?

That 313 v 225 is important; it's a numerical average of the results of his election simulator's trials. The map is not a "will win/won't win" map, it's a percentage chance map. In other words, if you take his map (produced by percentages of victory in his simulator) and add up the EVs you should get 332/206, but if you take the various totals produced from each simulation, it averages to 313/225. He called the states correctly but there were other possibilities that were nearly as likely (like losing Florida) that would have produced a lower EV total. Make sense?


Indeed it does. Thanks for the info.
 
2012-11-10 04:46:42 PM

skykid: 25.media.tumblr.com

This is the new "chessecake" to me. It just screams "I'm sick of this stupid man world!"



...just when she managed to lose 5 pound from her butt
 
2012-11-10 04:53:37 PM

shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?


He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.
 
2012-11-10 04:55:58 PM

MFAWG: neenerist: MFAWG: ....but the reality is that failing to unseat a very, very vulnerable incumbent is bad news for the GOP.

Was he really that vulnerable? I wonder if the sea change in information access is finally playing a role in politics. Fact checking is as far away as the smart phone in your pocket. That's transformational. In hindsight it seems obvious the Right wing echo chamber overestimated his weakness. Just because much of the mainstream media trailed Fox's Ben Gazzy, economy, international collapse stream of diarrhea consciousness doesn't mean it reflected facts.

By any metric, Obama was a vulnerable incumbent.


Such as?
 
2012-11-10 04:58:05 PM
Obama winning Florida was God's will.
 
2012-11-10 05:00:33 PM

Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.


ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that
 
2012-11-10 05:00:41 PM

AkaDad: Obama winning Florida was God's will.


If a Black man legitimately runs for President, the nation has a way to shut that whole thing down.
 
2012-11-10 05:04:29 PM

marius2: I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!


Why? Republican's control the state and did all they could to suppress voter turnout and it backfired.

The No. 1 cause for Florida being the last of the 50 states to count its votes in 2012 were a long ballot and changes ordered by the Legislature that swamped elections officials with time-consuming provisional and absentee ballots, experts said.

The big turnout meant more ballots to count. The especially long ballot meant more pages to scan. And a shortened early-voting window resulted in more absentee ballots, which require more time and scrutiny by elections officials before they can be counted.
 
2012-11-10 05:07:08 PM

skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that


The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.
 
2012-11-10 05:15:30 PM

Mrtraveler01: I think this is one of the biggest successes of the Obama campaign this election.


From your link:
Florida's second-largest Hispanic group, Puerto Ricans, gave Obama out-sized support over Romney, 83 to 17 percent in Bendixen's survey.

"This is an ominous, ominous sign for Republicans," Amandi said. His partner, Sergio Bendixen, added that "Puerto Ricans in Florida are voting like Puerto Ricans in New York ... solidly Democratic."


So, yeah, I don't think the Republican House will be voting in favor of Puerto Rico statehood any time soon.
 
2012-11-10 05:17:57 PM

sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.


that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.
 
2012-11-10 05:18:03 PM

propasaurus: Mrtraveler01: I think this is one of the biggest successes of the Obama campaign this election.

From your link:
Florida's second-largest Hispanic group, Puerto Ricans, gave Obama out-sized support over Romney, 83 to 17 percent in Bendixen's survey.

"This is an ominous, ominous sign for Republicans," Amandi said. His partner, Sergio Bendixen, added that "Puerto Ricans in Florida are voting like Puerto Ricans in New York ... solidly Democratic."

So, yeah, I don't think the Republican House will be voting in favor of Puerto Rico statehood any time soon.


Yeah, on one hand, if they voted to make Puerto Rico a state, it might get them a little more support. Considering the Republicans' recent track record, though, it's more likely that they'll find some way to deny it out of spite, while blaming it on the Democrats.
 
2012-11-10 05:24:12 PM

skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.


Even in full context, I don't see any mention of popular vote totals. Perfectly reasonable must mean something different where you're from.
 
2012-11-10 05:25:55 PM

NutWrench: Well, according to Cheney in 2000, you only needed 51% for a "mandate."


If you're a Minnesotan Senator, all you need is an airport bathroom.
 
2012-11-10 05:27:14 PM

skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.


No, it really isn't.
 
2012-11-10 05:28:00 PM

lohphat: NutWrench: Well, according to Cheney in 2000, you only needed 51% for a "mandate."

If you're a Minnesotan Idahoan Senator, all you need is an airport bathroom.


FTFM.

/shakes tiny fist at EyeballKid
 
2012-11-10 05:28:33 PM

skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.


If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."
 
2012-11-10 05:32:41 PM

bbfreak: marius2: I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!

Why? Republican's control the state and did all they could to suppress voter turnout and it backfired.

The No. 1 cause for Florida being the last of the 50 states to count its votes in 2012 were a long ballot and changes ordered by the Legislature that swamped elections officials with time-consuming provisional and absentee ballots, experts said.

The big turnout meant more ballots to count. The especially long ballot meant more pages to scan. And a shortened early-voting window resulted in more absentee ballots, which require more time and scrutiny by elections officials before they can be counted.


And all of it in an attempt to stave off the eventual result: an Obama win in Florida.
 
2012-11-10 05:33:05 PM
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"What are you people doing here?"

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"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

farm8.staticflickr.com

"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

farm9.staticflickr.com

"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

farm8.staticflickr.com

"I'm done."

farm8.staticflickr.com

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farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-10 05:33:09 PM

sugardave: skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

Even in full context, I don't see any mention of popular vote totals. Perfectly reasonable must mean something different where you're from.


Here is the full video. Note how he is basing his claims of a "landslide" on polls measuring the popular vote. He also predicts a large margin in the EC but since I don't have to assume that Dick Morris said something that is absurd right on its face, I can easily give him the benefit of the doubt
 
2012-11-10 05:34:19 PM

propasaurus: skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

No, it really isn't.


what were all those polls showing the "horse race" measuring? I wonder.
 
2012-11-10 05:34:40 PM

skullkrusher: since I don't have to assume that Dick Morris said something that is absurd right on its face, I can easily give him the benefit of the doubt


ummm...why?

that's his job. it says so right on his resume. his tax forms list 'Absurdity' as his occupation.
 
2012-11-10 05:36:52 PM

shastacola: skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."


Of course, we also have the piece in which the sentence in question appears.

No mention of the EC at all in there. Weird.
 
2012-11-10 05:37:34 PM

acefox1: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"What are you people doing here?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"I'm done."

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]


I WISH to FSM i could watch that, but everywhere it's posted it just throws me a god dammned "Not available in your region" in my face. That looks AWESOME!
 
2012-11-10 05:39:24 PM

skullkrusher: shastacola: skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."

Of course, we also have the piece in which the sentence in question appears.

No mention of the EC at all in there. Weird.


"Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." You are claiming two disparate thoughts that give the same outcome, yet have no correlation? Is that what I am to understand here? (sorry, can't watch videos on the plane)
 
2012-11-10 05:40:01 PM
Damn, I hope I didn't just replace "the gym in 26 minutes"
 
2012-11-10 05:40:36 PM

heap: skullkrusher: since I don't have to assume that Dick Morris said something that is absurd right on its face, I can easily give him the benefit of the doubt

ummm...why?

that's his job. it says so right on his resume. his tax forms list 'Absurdity' as his occupation.


hehe I mean I am not trying to believe he said something as ridiculous as some would have us believe. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that he was referring to the pop vote when he made his landslide prediction and again in his post-morten when he talks about a landslide for Romney (as he predicted) vs a squeaker for Obama (which it was, more or less).
In fact, that interpretation makes the absolute most sense and requires no gymnastics whatsoever. He also predicted a large margin of EC votes for Romney but when he makes his landslide prediction he spends most of the time talking about "reading" into polls to get what he believes the true results are. High single digit leads for Romney. Polls measure popular votes. He is using his alleged insight into these polls to predict a landslide. Doesn't take a leap.

Once again the internet tries to outsmart itself
 
2012-11-10 05:41:04 PM

skullkrusher: propasaurus: skullkrusher: sugardave: skullkrusher: Greek: shower_in_my_socks: DICK MORRIS: "We're going to win by a landslide. ...Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

So Obama's f won by a landslide, RIGHT DICK?

He already called it a "squeaker." So, 325 Republican EVs= a "landslide," while 332 Democratic EVs= a "squeaker." Apparently, Dick Morris still believes in the whole 3/5 person thing.

Dick, go suck a toe.

ya know, it is quite possible that Dick was referring to a landslide in the popular vote when referring to Romney. Of course that wouldn't allow for the lulzly juxtaposition of comments so I guess there's that

The quoted sentence would say your analysis is wrong.

that ellipses cuts out quite a bit:

"We're going to win by a landslide. It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history. It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter, where in fact I think that Romney is going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes."

Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

No, it really isn't.

what were all those polls showing the "horse race" measuring? I wonder.


GOP fantasies.
 
2012-11-10 05:41:07 PM

sugardave: Damn, I hope I didn't just replace "the gym in 26 minutes"


so long as you skymall in the next 26 minutes, i'll give it to you.
 
2012-11-10 05:42:35 PM

skullkrusher: shastacola: skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."

Of course, we also have the piece in which the sentence in question appears.

No mention of the EC at all in there. Weird.


I really want to sample some of your pills. Holy balls.
 
2012-11-10 05:42:54 PM

heap: sugardave: Damn, I hope I didn't just replace "the gym in 26 minutes"

so long as you skymall in the next 26 minutes, i'll give it to you.


Damn, and THIS is why nobody sponsors me. Maybe if I wait long enough and you all forget, I can whip this out later ;)
 
2012-11-10 05:43:05 PM

skullkrusher: heap: skullkrusher: since I don't have to assume that Dick Morris said something that is absurd right on its face, I can easily give him the benefit of the doubt

ummm...why?

that's his job. it says so right on his resume. his tax forms list 'Absurdity' as his occupation.

hehe I mean I am not trying to believe he said something as ridiculous as some would have us believe. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that he was referring to the pop vote when he made his landslide prediction and again in his post-morten when he talks about a landslide for Romney (as he predicted) vs a squeaker for Obama (which it was, more or less).
In fact, that interpretation makes the absolute most sense and requires no gymnastics whatsoever. He also predicted a large margin of EC votes for Romney but when he makes his landslide prediction he spends most of the time talking about "reading" into polls to get what he believes the true results are. High single digit leads for Romney. Polls measure popular votes. He is using his alleged insight into these polls to predict a landslide. Doesn't take a leap.

Once again the internet tries to outsmart itself


dude, for a moment, include yourself in this estimation.

you're making the case that the guy who made an electoral vote prediction wasn't talking about electoral votes, and that the guy who was wrong in both estimations by a vast stupifying margin was somehow not capable of saying stupidly wrong things.

for chrissakes, you're gonna end up stuck all pretzel shaped if you keep this up.
 
2012-11-10 05:43:29 PM

Smoking GNU: acefox1: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"What are you people doing here?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"I'm done."

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

I WISH to FSM i could watch that, but everywhere it's posted it just throws me a god dammned "Not available in your region" in my face. That looks AWESOME!


My friend in London missed out on it so I put that together for her. It really was fantastic. I should have seen it coming but it still surprised me and killed me with laughter.

Only Don King can adequately descricbe what a splendificent disaster it is that The Daily Show and Colbert can't be seen overseas.

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.
 
2012-11-10 05:44:06 PM

sugardave: "Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." You are claiming two disparate thoughts that give the same outcome, yet have no correlation? Is that what I am to understand here? (sorry, can't watch videos on the plane)


sure there's a correlation. He thought Romney would win in a landslide in the pop vote and that would lead to a large victory in the EC. The reason he thinks Romney was going to win in a landslide in the pop vote is because of special magic reading he has into poll figures. The landslide he was referring to was in the pop vote, which translates to a large win in the EC. When he wrote his mea culpa, he says I predicted a Romney landslide [5-10 points in the pop vote] and we got an Obama squeaker [2.5% in pop vote]
 
2012-11-10 05:44:36 PM

acefox1:

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.


*beep* ONE
*beep* ONE
*beep* ONE
 
2012-11-10 05:46:03 PM

heap: skullkrusher: heap: skullkrusher: since I don't have to assume that Dick Morris said something that is absurd right on its face, I can easily give him the benefit of the doubt

ummm...why?

that's his job. it says so right on his resume. his tax forms list 'Absurdity' as his occupation.

hehe I mean I am not trying to believe he said something as ridiculous as some would have us believe. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that he was referring to the pop vote when he made his landslide prediction and again in his post-morten when he talks about a landslide for Romney (as he predicted) vs a squeaker for Obama (which it was, more or less).
In fact, that interpretation makes the absolute most sense and requires no gymnastics whatsoever. He also predicted a large margin of EC votes for Romney but when he makes his landslide prediction he spends most of the time talking about "reading" into polls to get what he believes the true results are. High single digit leads for Romney. Polls measure popular votes. He is using his alleged insight into these polls to predict a landslide. Doesn't take a leap.

Once again the internet tries to outsmart itself

dude, for a moment, include yourself in this estimation.

you're making the case that the guy who made an electoral vote prediction wasn't talking about electoral votes, and that the guy who was wrong in both estimations by a vast stupifying margin was somehow not capable of saying stupidly wrong things.

for chrissakes, you're gonna end up stuck all pretzel shaped if you keep this up.


he specifically makes an EC prediction. He also makes a prediction of a landslide which he backs up by using popular vote metrics. This isn't tough. It's the obvious interpretation in fact.

Dick Morris absolutely creeps me the fark out. As usual, this is more about some dishonest interpretations of shiat to make a lulz on the web
 
2012-11-10 05:46:18 PM
angryblackladychronicles.com
 
2012-11-10 05:47:36 PM

skullkrusher: sugardave: "Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." You are claiming two disparate thoughts that give the same outcome, yet have no correlation? Is that what I am to understand here? (sorry, can't watch videos on the plane)

sure there's a correlation. He thought Romney would win in a landslide in the pop vote and that would lead to a large victory in the EC. The reason he thinks Romney was going to win in a landslide in the pop vote is because of special magic reading he has into poll figures. The landslide he was referring to was in the pop vote, which translates to a large win in the EC. When he wrote his mea culpa, he says I predicted a Romney landslide [5-10 points in the pop vote] and we got an Obama squeaker [2.5% in pop vote]


Okay, let us drop the mea culpa that came after he was wrong and work in the timeframe where he thought he would be right. Why claim a landslide victory ONLY in the popular vote? We've had (very recent) history where the popular vote meant jack shiat, so why would a popular vote "victory" even make a crap?
 
2012-11-10 05:47:38 PM

thamike: skullkrusher: shastacola: skullkrusher: Perfectly reasonable to assume he is referring to the popular vote in the first sentence.

If only he hadn't been so gosh darned specific:

"Romney will win the states McCain carried in 2008, plus: Florida, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota."

Of course, we also have the piece in which the sentence in question appears.

No mention of the EC at all in there. Weird.

I really want to sample some of your pills. Holy balls.


Doxycycline for occasional folliculitus. Not too exciting. Take with a meal or a full glass of water though.
 
2012-11-10 05:47:41 PM

heap: for chrissakes, you're gonna end up stuck all pretzel shaped if you keep this up.


Getting stuck all pretzel-shaped is kind of skullkrusher's stock in trade. That, and doing the Sideshow Bob rake-stepping dance.
 
2012-11-10 05:47:53 PM

skullkrusher: he specifically makes an EC prediction. He also makes a prediction of a landslide which he backs up by using popular vote metrics. This isn't tough. It's the obvious interpretation in fact.


of course it's obvious, you think it!

i'm fine with my estimation of both dick morris, and his predictive skills. they both suck, they're both a joke, and they both will still receive massive paychecks.

how that makes anything he actually said into the word stew you've cooked up is beyond me, but the fun part is - i don't have to care - dick morris is still a fat bloated incorrect tool - it's the obvious interpretation, in fact.
 
2012-11-10 05:51:08 PM

heap: acefox1:

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.

*beep* ONE
*beep* ONE
*beep* ONE


"Wilford! You can't vote by phone!"

"How dare you try to suppress my vote. I served this country. I was a rodeo clown."

"Thank you foryour service sir."

"Fine, I'll vote by Fax. EEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhghggkkghgh ONE! Doggont I'm caught in the Fax feeder! ONE!!!!! ONE!!!!"
 
2012-11-10 05:51:10 PM

skullkrusher: sugardave: "Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes." You are claiming two disparate thoughts that give the same outcome, yet have no correlation? Is that what I am to understand here? (sorry, can't watch videos on the plane)

sure there's a correlation. He thought Romney would win in a landslide in the pop vote and that would lead to a large victory in the EC. The reason he thinks Romney was going to win in a landslide in the pop vote is because of special magic reading he has into poll figures. The landslide he was referring to was in the pop vote, which translates to a large win in the EC. When he wrote his mea culpa, he says I predicted a Romney landslide [5-10 points in the pop vote] and we got an Obama squeaker [2.5% in pop vote]


Apparently, skullkrusher is Dick's FARK handle.
 
2012-11-10 05:51:55 PM
romney NEVER had a chance. If we look at nate silvers blog, which we all know now was pretty damn accurate, then the closest romney ever came to striking distance of obama was after the first debate, and obama STILL had the electoral upperhand of 285 votes. There was no mitt romney momentum after the debate, all he did was stop it from being an even bigger blowout
 
2012-11-10 05:52:55 PM

sugardave: Okay, let us drop the mea culpa that came after he was wrong and work in the timeframe where he thought he would be right. Why claim a landslide victory ONLY in the popular vote? We've had (very recent) history where the popular vote meant jack shiat, so why would a popular vote "victory" even make a crap?


Almost the entire video is spent predicting popular vote results. " It will rekindle a whole question as to why the media played this race as a nail-biter". The media in general wasn't calling the EC results a "nail biter". The whole "horse race" idea came because of the allegedly tight polling. He was predicting a landslide in popular votes for Romney. He specifically says a 5-10% spread in the video. He claimed that this landslide pop vote victory would also translate into a large margin in the EC but that wasn't the meat of his prediction - his prediction was based on reading into polls. He then translated those poll numbers into what they meant in the EC when he made his prediction of the actual EC number

So when he starts the mea culpa with "I predicted a landslide and we got a squeaker" you actually have to make a leap to pretend he was referring to the EC vote rather than the pop vote to make the "OMG HE'S SOOOO DUMB" work. Since basically the whole basis for his prediction is polling numbers, that isn't the occam's razor choice
 
2012-11-10 05:54:32 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: heap: for chrissakes, you're gonna end up stuck all pretzel shaped if you keep this up.

Getting stuck all pretzel-shaped is kind of skullkrusher's stock in trade. That, and doing the Sideshow Bob rake-stepping dance.


which is why you have me on ignore but apparently not the trolliest of trolls ever. Cuz I'm always doing the rake-step dance and not because I openly mocking you.
Here's a clue though: I still openly mock you. You just can't see it.
 
2012-11-10 05:56:20 PM

skullkrusher:

Doxycycline for occasional folliculitus. Not too exciting. Take with a meal or a full glass of water though.


folliculitus, that's... what, hairy palms?
 
2012-11-10 05:56:40 PM

heap: of course it's obvious, you think it!


and I think it because it's obvious! Back to the "I don't need to believe Dick Morris is cartoonishly stupid rather than just average stupid" so I don't need to pretend he thought 325 was a landslide last week and 332 is a squeaker this week.

It's great being honest. It requires so little effort
 
2012-11-10 05:57:01 PM

skullkrusher: the meat of his prediction


the meat of his prediction was also wrong, incorrect, unbased in reality or worth any more concern than you'd give to a crazy person shaking naked barbie dolls at you from a freeway overpass.

he is that dumb. i'm sorry that hurts you somehow, but...for chrissakes, it's dick morris - it isn't like this incident was required to form the opinion that he is dumb, he's been giving examples for decades now.
 
2012-11-10 05:57:24 PM

KarmicDisaster: skullkrusher:

Doxycycline for occasional folliculitus. Not too exciting. Take with a meal or a full glass of water though.

folliculitus, that's... what, hairy palms?


anal leakage
 
2012-11-10 05:57:50 PM
I love the one of the reasons that FLA turned blue was that the people sticking it to GOV Rick Scott for trying to suppress the vote

People dont wait 6 to 8 hours in line unless they want to make a point and pissed
 
2012-11-10 05:58:17 PM

skullkrusher: "I don't need to believe Dick Morris is cartoonishly stupid


again, dick morris *is* cartoonishly stupid, even with out this as an example.

it's kind of his bread and butter - it's why he has a job. he's a cartoonishly overstated buffoon - its what he does for a living.
 
2012-11-10 05:58:33 PM

heap: the meat of his prediction was also wrong, incorrect, unbased in reality or worth any more concern than you'd give to a crazy person shaking naked barbie dolls at you from a freeway overpass.


yep

heap: he is that dumb. i'm sorry that hurts you somehow, but...for chrissakes, it's dick morris - it isn't like this incident was required to form the opinion that he is dumb, he's been giving examples for decades now.


if you say so. I don't think so. Not hurt in the slightest by it except that I have to share webspace with people who need to believe it despite what obvious observation tells them
 
2012-11-10 05:59:08 PM

heap: skullkrusher: "I don't need to believe Dick Morris is cartoonishly stupid

again, dick morris *is* cartoonishly stupid, even with out this as an example.

it's kind of his bread and butter - it's why he has a job. he's a cartoonishly overstated buffoon - its what he does for a living.


ok
 
2012-11-10 06:00:35 PM

skullkrusher: despite what obvious observation


again, you think it so it's obvious. gotcha.

dick morris is intelligent, and an intellectual force for good in american politics, his brilliant insight and topical wit are legendary - and whatever other fairy tales help you sleep at night.
 
2012-11-10 06:03:11 PM
i wonder if we can win a "Dick Morris award" from this one.

i'll let you google that one, odd that a person who isn't known for bad political predictions would have such an award named after him - before this election, even.

weird.
 
2012-11-10 06:03:34 PM

heap: skullkrusher: despite what obvious observation

again, you think it so it's obvious. gotcha.

dick morris is intelligent, and an intellectual force for good in american politics, his brilliant insight and topical wit are legendary - and whatever other fairy tales help you sleep at night.


this is my shocked face at your mischaracterizing the point :O

Once again, I just like arguing facts and logic and honesty with the biggest whiners about people who are averse to facts, logic and honesty.
 
2012-11-10 06:06:14 PM

skullkrusher: When he wrote his mea culpa, he says I predicted a Romney landslide [5-10 points in the pop vote] and we got an Obama squeaker [2.5% in pop vote]


The funny thing about all this nitpicking is that in order for a candidate to win a popular landslide, the margin has to be overwhelming, in the double digits (not 5-10, 10 or over). Obama won 51.3% of the popular vote. Romney got 48.6%. not even 3 points. When that "squeaker" means a discrepancy of 124 electoral votes, it's called an electoral landslide. Nobody in his right mind would ever have predicted a popular landslide for either candidate, so Dick's "mea culpa" is based completely on the idea that any of his predictions were even remotely reasonable. It's moot which kind of landslide he had in mind because there was only one kind possible, and only for one of the candidates. I know you enjoy nitpicking just for the hell of it, but Dick Morris was eating paint chips, so really, what's the difference which landslide he was referring to?
 
2012-11-10 06:08:16 PM

skullkrusher: I just like arguing facts and logic and honesty


the funny thing is, i actually believe you think that's what you're doing.

you have all the facts, all the logic, can summon up captain obvious and all of his obviousness...and the people that are looking at you like you just pooped on the carpet are just whiney-whinersons who wouldn't know logic if it legitimately raped their eyesockets.
 
2012-11-10 06:11:28 PM

thamike: It's moot which kind of landslide he had in mind because there was only one kind possible, and only for one of the candidates.


if this were charades, this would be the part where we all touch our noses and dance about frantically.

his prediction was crap in either estimation - that he can't have a 'landslide' with one victory and a 'squeaker' with another is immaterial - he's a bloviating shiatbag who bloviates shiat for a living.

for real, who on earth would even guess that the response to his terminal wrongness would be consistency on his part? and why?

i keep coming back to what is the underlining point here - it's dick freaking morris. he's doing what dick morris has done, is doing, and will continue to do - be a bloviating gasbag.
 
2012-11-10 06:11:56 PM

heap: skullkrusher: I just like arguing facts and logic and honesty

the funny thing is, i actually believe you think that's what you're doing.

you have all the facts, all the logic, can summon up captain obvious and all of his obviousness...and the people that are looking at you like you just pooped on the carpet are just whiney-whinersons who wouldn't know logic if it legitimately raped their eyesockets.


yeah, it's real simple. The guy predicted a landslide, we got a squeaker as he said. Since BO didn't win the EC in a "squeaker" and his prediction was popular vote based in the first place, logic and the facts of the available statements lead to a simple conclusion for those of us not desperately trying to avoid such a conclusion for some strange reason
 
2012-11-10 06:13:31 PM

thamike: I know you enjoy nitpicking just for the hell of it, but Dick Morris was eating paint chips, so really, what's the difference which landslide he was referring to?


there is no difference but "Dick Morris is an idiot" is a very short conversation and Drew doesn't pay me the big bucks to have short conversations

/not really
//the pay sucks
 
2012-11-10 06:14:09 PM

skullkrusher: yeah, it's real simple.


'please proceed, governor'.
 
2012-11-10 06:16:35 PM

heap: thamike: It's moot which kind of landslide he had in mind because there was only one kind possible, and only for one of the candidates.

if this were charades, this would be the part where we all touch our noses and dance about frantically.

his prediction was crap in either estimation - that he can't have a 'landslide' with one victory and a 'squeaker' with another is immaterial - he's a bloviating shiatbag who bloviates shiat for a living.

for real, who on earth would even guess that the response to his terminal wrongness would be consistency on his part? and why?

i keep coming back to what is the underlining point here - it's dick freaking morris. he's doing what dick morris has done, is doing, and will continue to do - be a bloviating gasbag.


On the bright side, this is what Bill Kristol finally letting reality dawn on him looks like:

www.addictinginfo.org

See guys? It doesn't hurt one bit.
 
2012-11-10 06:18:44 PM

thamike:
See guys? It doesn't hurt one bit.


i think that's the 'lupine smile' david frum was talking about.
 
2012-11-10 06:28:29 PM
New definition of 'cornholed' in webster dictionary: electoral count of 332 to 206.
 
2012-11-10 06:29:36 PM

marius2: I still don't see why it took so long, but still glad to hear this!



it took so long because a whole bunch of Owners in Florida decided it should take so long. Freedom, and all.
 
2012-11-10 06:30:05 PM

Linux_Yes: New definition of 'cornholed' in webster dictionary: electoral count of 332 to 206.


No, that's the wrong edition. Getting trounced by 126 electoral votes means the losing party has a mandate to be obstructionist farktards. I hope the Dems remember this should the shoe ever be on the other nostril.
 
2012-11-10 06:32:03 PM

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?



the cutoff?

if you give me 332 dollars and i give you 206 back in return, you got landslided by 126 bucks. you got taken.
 
2012-11-10 06:33:06 PM

Mind of the North Star: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 500x313] 

She looks like she's about to start moving like Bernie. That's what happens when butthurt consumes you




looks like she's taking a dump.
 
2012-11-10 06:33:58 PM

marius2: Weaver95: that makes Obama's win officially a landslide.

What is the official cut-off, if there is one, for a landslide victory?


330
 
2012-11-10 06:35:15 PM
Hey Republicans: HANDLE IT!!
 
2012-11-10 06:50:13 PM

TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.


bowties were never cool.
 
2012-11-10 06:55:55 PM

heap: i wonder if we can win a "Dick Morris award" from this one.

i'll let you google that one, odd that a person who isn't known for bad political predictions would have such an award named after him - before this election, even.

weird.


The "Dick Morris Award" was created (actually an earlier award was renamed in Dick's honor) after Dick predicted that the Republican Convention would propel Romney into a massive lead over Obama.
 
2012-11-10 06:56:31 PM
Wait, didn't Romney cut off the staff credit cards on election night? Why are astroturfers still posting?
 
2012-11-10 06:57:24 PM

Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail


I'm okay with this, if but to take partisan vote shenanigans out the hands of people like the Florida governor. How's that for 'small government', rethugs?
 
2012-11-10 07:02:29 PM
538th Psalm

Nate Silver is my statistician; I shall not fret.
He maketh me to lie down in blue states:
He leadeth me beside the bicoastal urban elites.
He restoreth my faith in the electoral college:
He leadeth me in the path of accuracy for his name brand's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Diebold,
I will fear no recounts: For he is with me;
His blog and his stats, they comfort me.
He preparest a table of odds before me in the presence of partisan hacks;
He filleth my head with possible outcomes; My brain bloweth up.

Surely middle class tax relief and affordable health care shall follow me all the days of my life,
and Obama will dwell in the House of White for the next four years.
 
2012-11-10 07:03:04 PM

moop: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

bowties were never cool.


Bowties. Are. Cool.
 
2012-11-10 07:04:57 PM

fustanella: How's that for 'small government', rethugs?


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2012-11-10 07:05:43 PM

Miss Stein: 538th Psalm

Nate Silver is my statistician; I shall not fret.
He maketh me to lie down in blue states:
He leadeth me beside the bicoastal urban elites.
He restoreth my faith in the electoral college:
He leadeth me in the path of accuracy for his name brand's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Diebold,
I will fear no recounts: For he is with me;
His blog and his stats, they comfort me.
He preparest a table of odds before me in the presence of partisan hacks;
He filleth my head with possible outcomes; My brain bloweth up.

Surely middle class tax relief and affordable health care shall follow me all the days of my life,
and Obama will dwell in the House of White for the next four years.


Nice
 
2012-11-10 07:11:36 PM

SilentStrider: Bowties. Are. Cool.


EVIDENCE
 
2012-11-10 07:22:19 PM

thamike: SilentStrider: Bowties. Are. Cool.

EVIDENCE


Those guys are alright...but let's do this white boy style
 
2012-11-10 07:24:27 PM

Lionel Mandrake: thamike: SilentStrider: Bowties. Are. Cool.

EVIDENCE

Those guys are alright...but let's do this white boy style


I love Haverchuck, but he isn't wearing a bow tie.
 
2012-11-10 07:34:06 PM

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It was a very good year.


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Be fair, the GOP is corrupt to the core, and given their rhetoric, we might see the civil war part 2.

/I've actually predicted a civil war or partition in the US in the next 50-100 years since 2006 (I think, mebbe 2008)
//If it's within the next 50, it may be amicable
///If it's after, it will not be.
 
2012-11-10 07:34:26 PM

thamike: Lionel Mandrake: thamike: SilentStrider: Bowties. Are. Cool.

EVIDENCE

Those guys are alright...but let's do this white boy style

I love Haverchuck, but he isn't wearing a bow tie.


Haverchuck is so money that the bow tie is implied.
 
2012-11-10 07:40:30 PM

andrewagill: Be fair, the GOP is corrupt to the core, and given their rhetoric, we might see the civil war part 2.


They were referring to Obama, in a WND thread about how clever some blogger was for committing wire fraud by using a Pakistani IP (but a local phone number, credit card, email address and zip code) to accuse Obama of accepting foreign donations. The rest of your post is marbles.
 
2012-11-10 07:50:40 PM

thamike: andrewagill: Be fair, the GOP is corrupt to the core, and given their rhetoric, we might see the civil war part 2.

They were referring to Obama, in a WND thread about how clever some blogger was for committing wire fraud by using a Pakistani IP (but a local phone number, credit card, email address and zip code) to accuse Obama of accepting foreign donations. The rest of your post is marbles.


Wait, what? They don't know that it's perfectly legal to make donations from abroad as long as you're a US citizen?
 
2012-11-10 07:54:16 PM

Satosuke: You seem to think I'm a Republican biatching that the GOP's crappy candidate lost to the Dem's crappy candidate. I didn't like either choice really. I've always just thought the EC is a bad system.


I'm not suggesting you are being anything but sincere.

I just wanted to use your words as an example of some something I predict to hear a lot over the coming weeks.
 
2012-11-10 07:54:57 PM

DeaH: For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.


Uh...I'm not a Republican, but chocolate-bourbon pecan pie sounds awesome. Can I try some?
 
2012-11-10 08:00:45 PM

rynthetyn: thamike: andrewagill: Be fair, the GOP is corrupt to the core, and given their rhetoric, we might see the civil war part 2.

They were referring to Obama, in a WND thread about how clever some blogger was for committing wire fraud by using a Pakistani IP (but a local phone number, credit card, email address and zip code) to accuse Obama of accepting foreign donations. The rest of your post is marbles.

Wait, what? They don't know that it's perfectly legal to make donations from abroad as long as you're a US citizen?


And that was merely their first mistake.
 
2012-11-10 08:06:09 PM

Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail


With the demonstrated efficiency of OUR post office. . . ?
 
2012-11-10 08:31:34 PM

skykid: My two favorite picture from White People Mourning Romney.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

This is the new "chessecake" to me. It just screams "I'm sick of this stupid man world!"

And this.

[sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x566]

Where somehow an old lady is crossdressing as Uncle Sam!


That has got to be the funjiest f*cking tumblr in all the internetz.

Old white people who wish for a return to an america that existed only in the movies and their own failing imaginations, and young white people who are too stupid that the guys they want to put into public office so badly are the very same guys that f*cked the system up so badly that now they have to whore themselves out to find jobs that pay enough to cover their student loans just crack me the f*ck up.

To the old white people: your n*gger-free / gay-free / wetb*ck-free utopia never existed. Welcome to the 21st century.

To the young white people: Rmoney and men like him stole your future and your parents present. Think about that next time.

/I'm loving this
 
2012-11-10 08:32:10 PM

thamike: rynthetyn: thamike: andrewagill: Be fair, the GOP is corrupt to the core, and given their rhetoric, we might see the civil war part 2.

They were referring to Obama, in a WND thread about how clever some blogger was for committing wire fraud by using a Pakistani IP (but a local phone number, credit card, email address and zip code) to accuse Obama of accepting foreign donations. The rest of your post is marbles.

Wait, what? They don't know that it's perfectly legal to make donations from abroad as long as you're a US citizen?

And that was merely their first mistake.


I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with people who have never traveled 50 miles from where they were born.
 
2012-11-10 08:34:59 PM

rynthetyn: I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with people who have never traveled 50 miles from where they were born.


Depends on their reason.
 
2012-11-10 08:40:00 PM

skykid: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

This guy not amused by that statement.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x318]


Or this guy (if he were still alive, that is)

upload.wikimedia.org

/ one of the better politicians in the last 30 years, IMHO.
 
2012-11-10 08:46:46 PM
These "America died" people typify the delusional drama queens in all of this. No, America didn't die. It's still here, just like yesterday. It doesn't depend on your fantasies and delusions to exist. So when those are crushed, it lives on. With or without you.

What "died" is your DREAM of being rescued from a phantom threat. You've been played like a sucker. The problems you exaggerate were created by the people who tricked you into believing they will save you.

YOU feel like YOU died, because you've been pumped so full of fear you can't imagine surviving what comes next. Which is, nothing. Just like Y2K.

Nothing. Unless you create your own problems.
 
2012-11-10 08:47:25 PM

Wireless Joe: Bush claims mandate with a 286/252 Electoral College win and 3.5 million popular vote lead. "I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."

Obama asks nicely for mandate with 332/206 Electoral College win and 3.2 million (so far) popular vote lead.  "So we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together."


I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- Obama is too nice to be a politician.
 
2012-11-10 08:49:29 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: skykid: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

This guy not amused by that statement.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x318]

Or this guy (if he were still alive, that is)

[upload.wikimedia.org image 194x225]

/ one of the better politicians in the last 30 years, IMHO.


Is... is that Al Franken?
 
2012-11-10 08:58:04 PM
i find it telling that with this news obama wins by 3/5ths of the EV
 
2012-11-10 08:59:14 PM
Did anyone mention landslide?

I think it's hilarious how my conservative Republican associates believed it was in the bag for Romney. I kept telling them it wouldnt be close -Obama would be reelected. But their echo chamber media had them believing it.

Reality hurts, eh? It's because reality has a liberal bias.
 
2012-11-10 09:00:56 PM
I thought I was being overly optimistic, calling it for Obama at 332, including Florida and Virginia. Glad I was correct:-)
 
2012-11-10 09:04:12 PM
Proceed Governor...to the wood shed for your ass whoopin.
 
2012-11-10 09:05:12 PM

Teufelaffe: DeaH: For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.

Uh...I'm not a Republican, but chocolate-bourbon pecan pie sounds awesome. Can I try some?


It's on the menu for Thanksgiving. Drop on by.
 
2012-11-10 09:06:50 PM

moop: bowties were never cool.


You're thinking of Fezzes.

rainegendron.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-10 09:12:23 PM
...chocolate-bourbon pecan pie

This appeals to many of my interests. So much yum.
 
2012-11-10 09:12:47 PM

ItchyMcDoogle: I love the one of the reasons that FLA turned blue was that the people sticking it to GOV Rick Scott for trying to suppress the vote

People dont wait 6 to 8 hours in line unless they want to make a point and pissed


If I were Rick Scott, I'd be doing everything in my power to make the ppl of FL VERY happy bet. now and the next Gov. election.
 
2012-11-10 09:13:30 PM

Rwa2play: ItchyMcDoogle: I love the one of the reasons that FLA turned blue was that the people sticking it to GOV Rick Scott for trying to suppress the vote

People dont wait 6 to 8 hours in line unless they want to make a point and pissed

If I were Rick Scott, I'd be doing everything in my power to make the ppl of FL VERY happy bet. now and the next Gov. election.


I think that's a bit late at this point.
 
2012-11-10 09:17:22 PM

propasaurus: Forbidden Doughnut: skykid: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

This guy not amused by that statement.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x318]

Or this guy (if he were still alive, that is)

[upload.wikimedia.org image 194x225]

/ one of the better politicians in the last 30 years, IMHO.

Is... is that Al Franken?


The late Senator Paul Simon of Illinois
 
2012-11-10 09:20:26 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: propasaurus: Forbidden Doughnut: skykid: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

This guy not amused by that statement.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x318]

Or this guy (if he were still alive, that is)

[upload.wikimedia.org image 194x225]

/ one of the better politicians in the last 30 years, IMHO.

Is... is that Al Franken?

The late Senator Paul Simon of Illinois


Didn't click the link, didya?
 
2012-11-10 09:20:43 PM

Teufelaffe: DeaH: For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.

Uh...I'm not a Republican, but chocolate-bourbon pecan pie sounds awesome. Can I try some?


I do a pretty nice chocolate-bourbon pecan pie myself. I use this recipe with a few alterations. Use dark chocolate chips instead of semisweet, light corn syrup instead of dark, and brown sugar instead of white. Happy eating!
 
2012-11-10 09:25:43 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-10 09:28:04 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.


I'm more worried when all the disillusioned Republicans who didn;t vote (I know of 3 including my own brother) all com back. If the R's would have run any one worth a shiat *cough* Huntsman *cough*, this could have been a different story. When they realize that most of the country does not want to be the most extreme, but wants to moderate (if they realize it), that is when America starts coming back together.
 
2012-11-10 09:36:04 PM

propasaurus: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: propasaurus: Forbidden Doughnut: skykid: TV's Vinnie: [bossip.files.wordpress.com image 427x640]

Aaaaaand bowties not only became uncool again, they became ANTI-cool.

This guy not amused by that statement.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x318]

Or this guy (if he were still alive, that is)

[upload.wikimedia.org image 194x225]

/ one of the better politicians in the last 30 years, IMHO.

Is... is that Al Franken?

The late Senator Paul Simon of Illinois

Didn't click the link, didya?


Oops, and to think I'm old enough to remember when SNL was funny

/ Hangs head in shame.
 
2012-11-10 09:36:19 PM

HeartBurnKid: Teufelaffe: DeaH: For any Republican who is looking for a change, looking for facts, and trying to really figure out what happened, I just want you to know that I make a mean pie. You are welcome to come over for a hug followed by a delicious slice of chocolate truffle, pumpkin, cranberry-apple with cheddar, or chocolate-bourbon pecan.

Uh...I'm not a Republican, but chocolate-bourbon pecan pie sounds awesome. Can I try some?

I do a pretty nice chocolate-bourbon pecan pie myself. I use this recipe with a few alterations. Use dark chocolate chips instead of semisweet, light corn syrup instead of dark, and brown sugar instead of white. Happy eating!


That's also pretty close to my recipe. I don't add eggs to the crust, and I use whole wheat pastry flour because it makes a really nutty-tasting crust. I use half dark corn syrup and half Lyle's golden syrup because it is delicious. Also, if there is going to be whipped cream, it's going to have a bit of bourbon in it to carry on the bourbon flavor. This is also really good with hazelnuts.
 
2012-11-10 09:38:01 PM

paulv: Probably a stupid question with an obvious answer but how did Nate Silver get all states right yet come up with 313 v. 225 as opposed to the end result of 332 v. 206?


LOOK AT HIS BAR GRAPH. His highest probability on it was 332. 313 was an average of 25, 001 simulations. 303-18%, 332-20%, 347-15%, etc.
 
2012-11-10 09:42:49 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: the opposite of charity is justice: I've never seen the politics tab so empty of rednames.

Its like the derp-Rapture occurred wednesday morning.

Romney cut off their credit cards, too.

What's the over/under on this being the final election for some of the Republican base? They've had at least three days of excuses to be made and that simply hasn't worked. How demoralized do you think most of them are to just never vote again?

Which would be awesome, by the way. The less bigots, the better.


Unfortunately, I doubt they'll stay down for long. If they had any capacity for self-reflection, they would have left the GOP long ago. And midterms tend to have low turnout, which favors the Derp Side.
 
2012-11-10 09:45:14 PM

thamike: rynthetyn: I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with people who have never traveled 50 miles from where they were born.

Depends on their reason.


And what reason could there possibly be for someone in the 21st century, with modes of transport available to nearly anyone that can move a person of their belongings across a state, over a continent, or to the other side of the planet in HOURS where just 100 years ago it would take days or weeks to make the same trip?

What logical reason could there POSSIBLY be for any person living now to never have traveled more than 50 miles from where their house or apartment is?
 
2012-11-10 09:45:31 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Oops, and to think I'm old enough to remember when SNL was funny


That's forgivable. You also seemed to have forgotten what a bag of doorknobs Paul Simon was.
 
2012-11-10 09:53:42 PM

acefox1: Smoking GNU: acefox1: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"What are you people doing here?"

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"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

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"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

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"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

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"I'm done."

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I WISH to FSM i could watch that, but everywhere it's posted it just throws me a god dammned "Not available in your region" in my face. That looks AWESOME!

My friend in London missed out on it so I put that together for her. It really was fantastic. I should have seen it coming but it still surprised me and killed me with laughter.

Only Don King can adequately descricbe what a splendificent disaster it is that The Daily Show and Colbert can't be seen overseas.

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.


If you haven't seen it, check Pirate Bay, eztv.it or elsewhere.
 
2012-11-10 09:56:45 PM

rewind2846: And what reason could there possibly be for someone in the 21st century, with modes of transport available to nearly anyone that can move a person of their belongings across a state, over a continent, or to the other side of the planet in HOURS where just 100 years ago it would take days or weeks to make the same trip?

What logical reason could there POSSIBLY be for any person living now to never have traveled more than 50 miles from where their house or apartment is?




I forgot to add the part about it depending on where they're from as well, not that it factors too much in the following thought-- I haven't lived less than 700 miles from where I was born since I was three, spending most of my formative years 12,000 miles from it. And I still don't assume ignorance on the other guy's part solely because he stayed close to home. Some people like where they were born. That's why the reason for not leaving is key, when one is making a declarative statement about people who never leave their home.

Travel doesn't automatically equal enlightenment. Take it from somebody who has spent his entire life traveling and enduring absurd people who think the act of traveling (and even being expatriates), in and of itself, translates to worldliness.
 
2012-11-10 10:05:06 PM

thamike: rewind2846: And what reason could there possibly be for someone in the 21st century, with modes of transport available to nearly anyone that can move a person of their belongings across a state, over a continent, or to the other side of the planet in HOURS where just 100 years ago it would take days or weeks to make the same trip?

What logical reason could there POSSIBLY be for any person living now to never have traveled more than 50 miles from where their house or apartment is?



I forgot to add the part about it depending on where they're from as well, not that it factors too much in the following thought-- I haven't lived less than 700 miles from where I was born since I was three, spending most of my formative years 12,000 miles from it. And I still don't assume ignorance on the other guy's part solely because he stayed close to home. Some people like where they were born. That's why the reason for not leaving is key, when one is making a declarative statement about people who never leave their home.

Travel doesn't automatically equal enlightenment. Take it from somebody who has spent his entire life traveling and enduring absurd people who think the act of traveling (and even being expatriates), in and of itself, translates to worldliness.


There's a difference between living close to where you were born and never having traveled more than a few miles from where you were born. If you've never even been to the next county, much less the next state, you're probably not much interested in knowing anything beyond what's in your backyard.
 
2012-11-10 10:14:52 PM

thamike:
Travel doesn't automatically equal enlightenment. Take it from somebody who has spent his entire life traveling and enduring absurd people who think the act of traveling (and even being expatriates), in and of itself, translates to worldliness.


Not what I asked. There's a difference between going and coming back, and never leaving. If you've traveled the world, say, with the military, and then choose to stay in Mooseknuckle Iowa until you die you might have a different (read: larger) perspective on the world than if you had never left the county where Mooseknuckle is situated.

You are correct in that travel doesn't always mean you'll be a smarter person after the trip... but there's a better chance of increasing said intelligence simply by exposing your mind to things it has never experienced before.

So I ask again: what reason could there possibly be in this century for never having left where you live to see other places, people and things, even if you choose return to your origin?
 
2012-11-10 10:16:50 PM

gittlebass: romney NEVER had a chance. If we look at nate silvers blog, which we all know now was pretty damn accurate,


Going by his blog, Romney had a 38.9% chance of winning on Oct 12. That's better than 1 in 3. That's Russian roulette with two loaded chambers. Even by election night, Romney's chance of winning was comparable to drawing an inside straight in poker. Unlikely, but it sometimes happens.
 
2012-11-10 10:30:16 PM

Satosuke: Summoner101: Satosuke: 50.6% of the popular vote vs 47.9% is hardly a landslide...oh wait, popular votes mean jack shiat. My bad.

Reagan/Carter was a 489 vs 49 match up in EVs though only 50.7% vs 41% in popular vote. That race is largely considered a landslide.

That's barely a landslide. Definitive, yes, but barely a landslide. Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.


Funny how all the republicans are coming out saying EC is bad, didn't see them saying let Gore in when he won the popular vote but lost the EC
 
2012-11-10 10:31:46 PM

Doc Lee: Fitting that Romney got 47.9% of the popular vote.


Well he did say that the 47%ers have a sense of entitlement and want everything just given to them... Seems fitting.
 
2012-11-10 10:35:33 PM

rewind2846: You are correct in that travel doesn't always mean you'll be a smarter person after the trip


I was leaning more on the "non-travel doesn't necessarily rule out intelligence and open mindedness" end of things. Sure, one's immediate priorities are likely more provincial than some others. I just don't--and I'm not saying you do--think it's a forgone conclusion that a person who hasn't ventured further than 50 miles of his home is stupid or ignorant. I'm not playing the odds here, I'm just trying to stay out of the absolutes. I think it's a bullsh*t metric, and it tends to stop an intelligent hypothesis dead in its tracks.
 
2012-11-10 11:41:32 PM
Can we really be sure about this? Has Carl Rove analyzed this using Republican math yet?
 
2012-11-10 11:54:29 PM
Open wide conservatards, it's time to shove a mandate down your throats.
 
2012-11-11 12:12:10 AM
Now perhaps we can finish counting the vote in Arizona and find out how that actually turned out.
 
2012-11-11 12:31:48 AM
And, as comment 270, this comment makes Obama the electoral college winner

/Got nothing
//Glad it wasn't the tipping point state, or else we'd have President Romney thanks to the Supremes
 
2012-11-11 12:38:26 AM
and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
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/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.
 
2012-11-11 12:56:17 AM

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?


Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?
 
2012-11-11 01:06:13 AM

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.


Put the bong away before you take the pic next time
 
2012-11-11 01:08:36 AM

invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.


contradicted post is contradicting.

He went after guns but the gun business is good....?
 
2012-11-11 01:42:06 AM

Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail


It's NOT 50 different labs, it's one lab per county. So like a brazilian different labs.

Washington state is 100% vote by mail and it's wonderful. The only long lines are to drop them off if you wait until the last minute. Or you can take it to any post office. It really should be the law of the land.
 
2012-11-11 01:44:16 AM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Can we really be sure about this? Has Carl Rove analyzed this using Republican math yet?


cdn.theatlanticwire.com

/Oblig, hot, funneh.
 
2012-11-11 02:04:39 AM

brianbankerus: Lost Thought 00: Ok, I think the results are in from the "50-individual laboratories", it's time to institute national vote-by-mail

It's NOT 50 different labs, it's one lab per county. So like a brazilian different labs.

Washington state is 100% vote by mail and it's wonderful. The only long lines are to drop them off if you wait until the last minute. Or you can take it to any post office. It really should be the law of the land.


Yeah, but we're still talking about Florida here, and the GOP already went out of their way to make it hard for absentee ballots to count. You'd have lawyers fighting it out over the signatures on each and every vote-by-mail ballot cast. The system is only as good as the people who administer it.
 
2012-11-11 02:27:19 AM

rynthetyn: Yeah, but we're still talking about Florida here, and the GOP already went out of their way to make it hard for absentee ballots to count. You'd have lawyers fighting it out over the signatures on each and every vote-by-mail ballot cast. The system is only as good as the people who administer it.


America scores low on basic democracy tests. If we were setting up our current system today, other countries might not respect our outcomes. One reason is that unlike other mature democracies, we do not have a national standard for voting. It makes it potentially confusing for many voters (but don't tell that to Pat Buchanan, he earned those votes.)

We just need to get our election process sorted out.
 
2012-11-11 10:10:38 AM

Teufelaffe: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?

Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?


I got into it with someone the other day about just that, and they were herp-a-derping their sweet little hearts out over the "imported firearm" bit.

Until I explained to them Beretta USA manufactures the firearms for American sale...in America. They're not imported firearms, just like those made by Heckler & Koch and Fabrique Nationale. In fact, the extra regulations on imported firearms would provide the ill-needed but apparently much-desired impetus for foreign firearm manufacturers for whom Americans are key customers, like Glock and Benelli, to open manufactories in the states...making the small arms treaty a job creating treaty.

Which makes that a particularly egregious, misleading, and dishonest point on the part of the NRA, since they're the alleged "experts" on these matters. Considering they're bankrolled by major firearms and ammunition manufacturers, and PMC's, they're misinforming their own membership to protect the fiscal interests of their major contributors. Which is exactly what you'd expect from a right-wing organization, but I digress...
 
2012-11-11 02:03:06 PM

Frederick: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?
[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

/my front yard.
/works selling guns

//business is good. real good.

contradicted post is contradicting.

He went after guns but the gun business is good....?


The main body of the post is the sales pitch for the marks - "OBAMA IZ COMIN FER YER GUNZ so buy some from me before it's too late!!!!"

The slashies are a tip to the smarts that he doesn't actually believe it, but that he's been getting a lot of rubes in the door with this pitch over the last four years and he anticipates getting even more over the next four.
 
2012-11-11 03:34:29 PM

tomcatadam: Satosuke: Reinforces the point that the electoral college is a broken system.

It's certainly better than a full FPTP system, at the very least.


Why?
 
2012-11-11 08:10:41 PM

jso2897: "Like every election cycle, Sergio Bendixen, who is infamously known for the inaccuracy of his polls, is once again peddling inaccurate exit polling data about Cuban-American voting trends," Mauricio Claver-Carone, executive director of Cuba Democracy Advocates, wrote on his Capitol Hill Cubans blog."

Jesus H tapdancing Christ. It hasn't even been a week, and they're back to calling the pollsters liars.
What is wrong with these people?


They are psychologically unwell.

I think the first link below was meant to be fairly tongue in cheek but the author hit the nail right on the head.

Promising new research hints at possible treatment for Conservative Personality Disorder

The Modern Conservative Movement: A Study In Antisocial Personality Disorder

Right-wing authoritarianism
 
2012-11-11 08:27:40 PM

acefox1: Smoking GNU: acefox1: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x360]

"What are you people doing here?"

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"Shouldn't you people be out celebrating?

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"Do you think I'm out here every night just for your amusement?"

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"Nobody EVER listens to me!!"

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"I'm done."

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I WISH to FSM i could watch that, but everywhere it's posted it just throws me a god dammned "Not available in your region" in my face. That looks AWESOME!

My friend in London missed out on it so I put that together for her. It really was fantastic. I should have seen it coming but it still surprised me and killed me with laughter.

Only Don King can adequately descricbe what a splendificent disaster it is that The Daily Show and Colbert can't be seen overseas.

The Wilford Brimley vote by phone bit in the first segment was ridiculously funny too.


The Daily Show and Colbert Report are screened in both the UK and Australia - Comedy Central is available as part of the standard cable TV packages.
 
2012-11-11 09:35:17 PM

Teufelaffe: invisbob: and he went after guns the next day via the un treaty. WTF is wrong with you people?

Would that be the UN Small Arms treaty that has exactly nothing to do with domestic gun sales or ownership?


Maybe he's running guns - what are those FBI and ATF tip line numbers again?
 
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