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(Seattle Times)   Maybe just this one time having a HOA would have been a good thing   (seattletimes.com) divider line 60
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2012-11-10 01:01:08 PM
19 votes:
So a rich guy got the government to destroy someone else's property because he felt entitled to something.
2012-11-10 01:38:47 PM
9 votes:
So, a guy goes and starts a legal battle with his neighbor to deprive his neighbor of part of his property because he wanted to be able to see through where a neighbor's tree was located? I think there's a name for that type of person. Well, actually maybe a few. Let's see...asshole? Dick? Jackass? Self-important bastard? Oh, wait, that last one was more than one word.
2012-11-10 01:42:57 PM
6 votes:
Wow. John Olerud is a total douche. Can I go back and unroot for him?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-10 12:44:01 PM
6 votes:
An appraiser hired by John and Kelly Olerud said their $4 million home would be worth $255,000 more if the rare Chinese pine and the Colorado spruce across the street were cut down and replaced with smaller plants. The Chinese pine's value is estimated at more than $18,000.

Sounds like a private right of eminent domain. I hope the tax assessor took note of the increased value.
2012-11-10 04:05:20 PM
5 votes:
The tree is at least fifty years old. It is not the HOA that is trying to force this. It is the City of Clyde Hill. If the property value is increased by $255,000 just for improving the view - the tree owner should demand no less than half up front for removing the tree.

/Wait until tax reassessment comes.. that $255k in additional value will mean a higher property tax bill by >$6,000.
2012-11-10 01:46:51 PM
5 votes:
$5 says a HOA would have ordered it cut down long ago.
2012-11-10 05:20:50 PM
4 votes:

From the article:



An appraiser hired by John and Kelly Olerud said their $4 million home would be worth $255,000 more if the rare Chinese pine and the Colorado spruce across the street were cut down and replaced with smaller plants. The Chinese pine's value is estimated at more than $18,000.


The board specified that the trees must be removed. It did not specify how much Mr. Baker should be compensated for their removal.

If the trees are worth $18,000.00 removing them creates an increase of $255,000.00 for Mr. Olerud, and Mr. Olerud is forcing Mr. Baker to remove the trees, then it is perfectly acceptable for Mr. Baker to charge Mr. Olerud $273,000.00: this is their value as given by Mr. Olerud's own appraiser.
2012-11-10 04:39:05 PM
4 votes:
John Olerud is an asshole.

Per the article the tree was not something new added after the asshole bought the property, so this is exactly like the assholes who buy a house near a school/train track/highway/airport/daycare and then sue because of the noise.

I wish I was a theist so I would at least have the satisfaction to believe that the asshole would one day be judged for his bad behaviour but I can only hope he get google bombed instead.
2012-11-10 04:03:50 PM
4 votes:

Spiralmonkey: The Olerud guy sounds like a prize coont. Is there a US equivalent of a tree preservation order or something? It certainly looks like the tree was there first.


They said the tree was worth at least 18k too. That stupid tree is worth almost as much as I make in a year. If the jerk insists on it being cut down he sold have to reimburse them for the cost of the tree, a suitable replacement, and the labor involved with it, if he is so desperate for a nice view. Or he shold buy the house across the street, or one with a better view. I would also sue the appraiser for putting the idea in his head.
2012-11-10 04:02:23 PM
4 votes:
What an asshole. He's rich so he gets whatever his whiny biatch ass wants?

Also:

Karac: I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing was there when he bought the place.


It's like people who buy property near airports then complain about the noise.
2012-11-10 03:53:51 PM
4 votes:
seattletimes.com

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing was there when he bought the place.
2012-11-10 02:35:36 PM
4 votes:
No, a HOA is never a good thing. Well I'm sure they can be but all the ones I've come across are assholes.

/no, my grass being half an inch too long does not affect your precious property values
2012-11-10 02:32:18 PM
4 votes:
So you bought the house knowing the trees were there, knowing the view you'd have.  And you have enough money to shop around for a house with a better view if so inclined.  THEN you go to the HOA to get the trees removed?
 
Prick.
 
Unless there's more to it.
2012-11-10 02:08:27 PM
4 votes:
Jesus. What a prick.
2012-11-10 08:52:42 PM
3 votes:
Guy just increased the value of your home by $255,000.00.

Pay the man, dick.
2012-11-10 07:03:17 PM
3 votes:
From Olerud's Wikipedia entry:

"This neighbor (whose trees are threatened) had given Olerud's family the use of his home for 8 months while Olerud's house was being built."

Any more douche points left to award?
2012-11-10 04:10:08 PM
3 votes:
Also, realize that the Bakers allowed the Oleruds to live in their home with them a year while the Oleruds' house was being built. Seems to be that the Oleruds are being the ultra duchey selfish neighbor.
2012-11-10 03:59:06 PM
3 votes:
The Olerud guy sounds like a prize coont. Is there a US equivalent of a tree preservation order or something? It certainly looks like the tree was there first.
2012-11-10 03:52:01 PM
3 votes:
They're going to kill a tree so that their property's value increases and they can see Seattle. That's pretty unfair. Why doesn't he just buy another place with a clearer view of the skyline?
2012-11-10 12:40:55 PM
3 votes:
Rich people problems
2012-11-10 08:21:28 PM
2 votes:

Abox: My HOA doesn't let me keep my charcoal grill on my condo patio. The bylaws cite a fire code that says a charcoal grill can't be operated within 10 feet of any flammable construction. My HOA translates that as I can't store the grill on my patio. WTF.


Some old jew woman doesn't like how that looks and has power over you. Congratulations, you got exactly what you asked for when you signed up for one of these power tripping Stepford wives associations.
2012-11-10 05:51:56 PM
2 votes:
TFA: "An appraiser hired by John and Kelly Olerud said their $4 million home would be worth $255,000 more if the rare Chinese pine and the Colorado spruce across the street were cut down and replaced with smaller plants. The Chinese pine's value is estimated at more than $18,000."

Hi, this is Mr. Baker. Yes, I just hired a tree appraiser, a property appraiser, and a tree removal appraiser. The tree's value is appraised at $100k, the property appraiser indicated a decrease in my property value of $500k with removal of the tree, and due to it's tricky location, the removal service quoted me $150k for removal of the tree. So entire loss for me includes $500k. Cut me a check and we'll call it even.
2012-11-10 05:03:50 PM
2 votes:

Karac: [seattletimes.com image 296x400]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing was there when he bought the place.


Can't tell from the pic but if that is a pine tree some of them grow pretty fast. In jr high I rode to school in a bus whose company name was Pinetree. Two years runnin they gave us a tiny little pine tree, more like a cutting, only a foot or two tall. We planted them on either side of our front porch and less than 10 years later had to cut them down as they started screwing our home foundations with their roots. Depending how long ago he bought the house that tree might have been quite a bit smaller.

Guy's still a douchenozzle, just sayin.....
2012-11-10 04:56:56 PM
2 votes:
Never underestimate the pig-ignorance of the Rich.
Some schmuck bought a house in Southport, CT a few years ago. The plot included two of the oldest beech trees in the State. All of a sudden, it turned out that both trees were sick, and had to be removed. Despite the protests of his neighbours (also fairly well-off), the trees came down. We assumed that he was trying to improve his view of the harbour, but now he's subdividing the property and building a huge house right where the trees used to stand.
Try GISsing Southport, CT, to get an idea of the environment where this is happening.
2012-11-10 04:44:16 PM
2 votes:
Farkin bs. You're not entitled to an amazing view from your home. Nor are you entitled to the maximum possible value your property could possibly be worth if only your neighbors would rearrange their property for you. Well...I guess it was determined that the guy is in fact entitled to these things. Shouldn't be though. I hope his house burns down.
2012-11-10 04:33:59 PM
2 votes:
In other news, the neighbors had decided their attic need better ventilation.

amazingdata.com
2012-11-10 04:06:41 PM
2 votes:
If I was the Baker's I'd hire Clark Griswald to decorate my house for Xmas
2012-11-10 04:06:39 PM
2 votes:
Never suspected Olerud would be a grade a douche bag.
2012-11-10 03:59:26 PM
2 votes:
Internet tough guy: I'd burn the assholes house down.

Trees were there when he moved in. It's not like they grew up over night.
2012-11-10 03:51:38 PM
2 votes:
I will cut down any tree in my yard for $18,000
2012-11-11 09:20:18 AM
1 votes:
Replace em with a coupla nice low hedges neatly trimmed

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2012-11-11 03:14:53 AM
1 votes:
Board member Catherine McLamb said she was troubled that the city code considers the effect of a tree on the value of a property bought when the tree was already there. "One is not entitled to enhance your view," she said.

So at least one board member had some common sense.


Removing the trees wouldn't unreasonably decrease the Bakers' enjoyment of their property, the board said. The view ordinance says an owner's enjoyment of a tree must be determined "by an objective evaluation," and "the personal attachment of a party to particular trees or landscaping shall not be compelling."

Because the Bakers' trees can be replaced with something smaller, "They can enjoy their privacy and shade and whatever else the tree provided for them," board member Bruce Eastes said.


Right. They just can't enjoy their view of those particular trees. Who even says they cared about privacy or shade? Maybe they just liked the way the damned trees looked? Since when is "enjoyment" objective anyway? Farking hell, people are stupid.


Olerud sounds like a total ass. The trees were there when he bought the property. That should have been the end of it. Well, he'd better spend many many hours enjoying his new 180-degree western view once the trees are removed. But of course you know he's not going to do more than glance that direction a couple times each day. What an asshole. I hope his neighbors can find something on his property that ruins their view.
2012-11-10 10:10:53 PM
1 votes:

ackb4r: Never suspected Olerud would be a grade a douche bag.


I bet his wife is behind it.
2012-11-10 09:00:48 PM
1 votes:
I wonder if he wore his helmet to court.

I actually used to like him. I'd pee on his baseball card now. Seriously, I'd kick $10 to a Kickstarter to pay the other guys legal expenses. Anyone else?
2012-11-10 07:52:33 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: Member Jack Bookey responded, "I look at the way it's written, not the way it should be written."

Translation: "I idolize athletes and wish Olerud would give me the Sandusky treatment and hug my guts out in the shower when this is finished."
2012-11-10 07:39:10 PM
1 votes:
"Hey, you know, your house obstructs my view of Seattle, too. That's gonna have to go, too..."

A**hole...
2012-11-10 07:23:26 PM
1 votes:
More Bullshiate "I want to tell you what you have to do with YOUR property."
2012-11-10 07:06:15 PM
1 votes:
It's a shiatbag society we live in when when someone can fark up a neighbors property in order to increase their own "value".
2012-11-10 05:42:47 PM
1 votes:
time to salt his lawn for the new growing season
2012-11-10 05:35:51 PM
1 votes:
Did he wear a helmet to the hearing?
2012-11-10 05:21:24 PM
1 votes:
I'd just cut down the tree as he asked, ensuring it accidentally fell on his house.
2012-11-10 05:11:09 PM
1 votes:

Tom_Slick: I don't know, my HOA is dragging its damn feet over a neighbor who has covered all the windows on the front of his property with plywood on the inside, it wouldn't be bad if he would just paint it white or black but leaving it unfinished looks very ghetto fabulous.

/The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."


Hello Tom, it's Tim Todd from across the way, I put the window treatment up because I called the HOA to complain that..
1)Your pictures are slightly eskew in the bedroom
2)The shade of paint you use isn't a nice color, it offends me.
3)Also, during your sex romps, your wife could use less "oh's" and add a few more "ahh's in there" the rhythm is off.
2012-11-10 05:03:36 PM
1 votes:
2012-11-10 04:59:43 PM
1 votes:

Felgraf: airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.

Trees that old, that big? No. Probably not. Its root systems is likely too extensive to move it without killing it.


Damn straight. Take a look at that pic again. You'd need to remove half the street to get any of the roots up.
Trust me - unless you've spend a few days trying to uproot a stump - you have no idea how deep and wide a tree exists underground.

Not to mention having to come up with some way to move something that weighs at least a few tons without messing it up too badly.
2012-11-10 04:54:09 PM
1 votes:
The HOA I live in once had to fine a couple of bonehead homeowners for cutting down a bunch of trees on a slope so they can have a better view. The trees, unfortunately for the boneheads, belonged not to them but to the HOA which legally owns and is responsible for the slope. Our area is prone to fires and subsequent mudslides, so the trees were not only property, but were doing a function of helping to keep the slope stable. The tree cutters bleated on about their property values, too.
2012-11-10 04:51:23 PM
1 votes:
Meh. I had DirecTV until the trees south of my house grew too tall. I never considered suing my neighbor because of it, I just switched to cable.
2012-11-10 04:38:36 PM
1 votes:
He may have won this battle but I have a feeling that the war is FAR FAR from over. Except the first flaming bag of shiat on your door way when the clock strikes one!
2012-11-10 04:22:21 PM
1 votes:
Wow, what a dick.
2012-11-10 04:20:49 PM
1 votes:

airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.


Trees that old, that big? No. Probably not. Its root systems is likely too extensive to move it without killing it.
2012-11-10 04:20:07 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: $5 says a HOA would have ordered it cut down long ago.


Or the HOA would have just removed the trees on their own while the owners were away and then send them a bill.
2012-11-10 04:18:32 PM
1 votes:

MrBentor: Also, realize that the Bakers allowed the Oleruds to live in their home with them a year while the Oleruds' house was being built. Seems to be that the Oleruds are being the ultra duchey selfish neighbor.

 

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2012-11-10 04:14:31 PM
1 votes:
I'll go with "he's a douche nozzle".

it would be a shame if his house burned down.

And someone needs to egg Clyde City Hall about 7,000 times
2012-11-10 04:13:46 PM
1 votes:
Why are not the tree grandfather in and thus exempt from removal because they predate the 1991 ordinance.
2012-11-10 04:10:54 PM
1 votes:
Another vote for "John Olerud is a shiathead". And we already know about Alomar. Hopefully Devon White and Joe Carter are ok guys.
2012-11-10 04:06:16 PM
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.
2012-11-10 04:05:12 PM
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Internet tough guy: I'd burn the assholes house down.


thats taking it a bit far, but torching (or cutting down if you live in a fire prone area unlike seattle) a big rose bush, or a decorative tree? that seems like the right way to get the message across
2012-11-10 03:59:55 PM
1 votes:
I'd take an appeal to the town council, and then to the courts if necessary. Hard to believe a guy who lives across the street from a $4 million home can't afford that.
2012-11-10 03:59:04 PM
1 votes:

smitty04: I have 14 pine trees lining my property, I am glad my neighbors are not that rich.


if i had rich neighbors who tried that, they'd find everytime they pushed on it, parts of their property would burst into flames. if they're going to make my property look like crap, i'm going to return the favor
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-10 03:57:45 PM
1 votes:
All these people have a much better life than I do if they can spend so much energy on this...
2012-11-10 03:52:38 PM
1 votes:
I have 14 pine trees lining my property, I am glad my neighbors are not that rich.
 
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