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(Seattle Times)   Maybe just this one time having a HOA would have been a good thing   (seattletimes.com) divider line 135
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2012-11-10 12:40:55 PM
Rich people problems
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-10 12:44:01 PM
An appraiser hired by John and Kelly Olerud said their $4 million home would be worth $255,000 more if the rare Chinese pine and the Colorado spruce across the street were cut down and replaced with smaller plants. The Chinese pine's value is estimated at more than $18,000.

Sounds like a private right of eminent domain. I hope the tax assessor took note of the increased value.
 
2012-11-10 01:01:08 PM
So a rich guy got the government to destroy someone else's property because he felt entitled to something.
 
2012-11-10 01:38:47 PM
So, a guy goes and starts a legal battle with his neighbor to deprive his neighbor of part of his property because he wanted to be able to see through where a neighbor's tree was located? I think there's a name for that type of person. Well, actually maybe a few. Let's see...asshole? Dick? Jackass? Self-important bastard? Oh, wait, that last one was more than one word.
 
2012-11-10 01:42:57 PM
Wow. John Olerud is a total douche. Can I go back and unroot for him?
 
2012-11-10 01:46:51 PM
$5 says a HOA would have ordered it cut down long ago.
 
2012-11-10 02:08:27 PM
Jesus. What a prick.
 
2012-11-10 02:32:18 PM
So you bought the house knowing the trees were there, knowing the view you'd have.  And you have enough money to shop around for a house with a better view if so inclined.  THEN you go to the HOA to get the trees removed?
 
Prick.
 
Unless there's more to it.
 
2012-11-10 02:35:36 PM
No, a HOA is never a good thing. Well I'm sure they can be but all the ones I've come across are assholes.

/no, my grass being half an inch too long does not affect your precious property values
 
2012-11-10 02:35:41 PM
My dad tried to get one of those about 20 years ago, but the guy had way more money to fight it. So, one winter, dad and a neighbor just cut them down. :)

Winning!

/Yes, we're a family of felons.
 
2012-11-10 02:59:37 PM
They did make Olerud pay for the removal. I probably would have taken that deal in negotiations.
 
2012-11-10 03:51:38 PM
I will cut down any tree in my yard for $18,000
 
2012-11-10 03:52:01 PM
They're going to kill a tree so that their property's value increases and they can see Seattle. That's pretty unfair. Why doesn't he just buy another place with a clearer view of the skyline?
 
2012-11-10 03:52:38 PM
I have 14 pine trees lining my property, I am glad my neighbors are not that rich.
 
2012-11-10 03:52:48 PM
The only good HOA is that thing Lou Bega yells during "Mambo No. 5."
 
2012-11-10 03:53:51 PM
seattletimes.com

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing was there when he bought the place.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-10 03:57:45 PM
All these people have a much better life than I do if they can spend so much energy on this...
 
2012-11-10 03:58:23 PM

Aarontology: So a rich guy got the government to destroy someone else's property because he felt entitled to something.


Hey we're all just trying to move Forward like Barry would want us.
 
2012-11-10 03:59:04 PM

smitty04: I have 14 pine trees lining my property, I am glad my neighbors are not that rich.


if i had rich neighbors who tried that, they'd find everytime they pushed on it, parts of their property would burst into flames. if they're going to make my property look like crap, i'm going to return the favor
 
2012-11-10 03:59:06 PM
The Olerud guy sounds like a prize coont. Is there a US equivalent of a tree preservation order or something? It certainly looks like the tree was there first.
 
2012-11-10 03:59:26 PM
Internet tough guy: I'd burn the assholes house down.

Trees were there when he moved in. It's not like they grew up over night.
 
2012-11-10 03:59:55 PM
I'd take an appeal to the town council, and then to the courts if necessary. Hard to believe a guy who lives across the street from a $4 million home can't afford that.
 
2012-11-10 04:01:02 PM
I don't know, my HOA is dragging its damn feet over a neighbor who has covered all the windows on the front of his property with plywood on the inside, it wouldn't be bad if he would just paint it white or black but leaving it unfinished looks very ghetto fabulous.

/The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."
 
2012-11-10 04:02:23 PM
What an asshole. He's rich so he gets whatever his whiny biatch ass wants?

Also:

Karac: I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing was there when he bought the place.


It's like people who buy property near airports then complain about the noise.
 
2012-11-10 04:03:50 PM

Spiralmonkey: The Olerud guy sounds like a prize coont. Is there a US equivalent of a tree preservation order or something? It certainly looks like the tree was there first.


They said the tree was worth at least 18k too. That stupid tree is worth almost as much as I make in a year. If the jerk insists on it being cut down he sold have to reimburse them for the cost of the tree, a suitable replacement, and the labor involved with it, if he is so desperate for a nice view. Or he shold buy the house across the street, or one with a better view. I would also sue the appraiser for putting the idea in his head.
 
2012-11-10 04:04:14 PM
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2012-11-10 04:05:12 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Internet tough guy: I'd burn the assholes house down.


thats taking it a bit far, but torching (or cutting down if you live in a fire prone area unlike seattle) a big rose bush, or a decorative tree? that seems like the right way to get the message across
 
2012-11-10 04:05:20 PM
The tree is at least fifty years old. It is not the HOA that is trying to force this. It is the City of Clyde Hill. If the property value is increased by $255,000 just for improving the view - the tree owner should demand no less than half up front for removing the tree.

/Wait until tax reassessment comes.. that $255k in additional value will mean a higher property tax bill by >$6,000.
 
2012-11-10 04:06:16 PM
I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.
 
2012-11-10 04:06:39 PM
Never suspected Olerud would be a grade a douche bag.
 
2012-11-10 04:06:41 PM
If I was the Baker's I'd hire Clark Griswald to decorate my house for Xmas
 
2012-11-10 04:07:59 PM

Tom_Slick: /The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."


Are you saying that putting up forest green or maroon curtains is against the rules?
 
2012-11-10 04:10:08 PM
Also, realize that the Bakers allowed the Oleruds to live in their home with them a year while the Oleruds' house was being built. Seems to be that the Oleruds are being the ultra duchey selfish neighbor.
 
2012-11-10 04:10:54 PM
Another vote for "John Olerud is a shiathead". And we already know about Alomar. Hopefully Devon White and Joe Carter are ok guys.
 
2012-11-10 04:13:46 PM
Why are not the tree grandfather in and thus exempt from removal because they predate the 1991 ordinance.
 
2012-11-10 04:14:31 PM
I'll go with "he's a douche nozzle".

it would be a shame if his house burned down.

And someone needs to egg Clyde City Hall about 7,000 times
 
2012-11-10 04:18:32 PM

MrBentor: Also, realize that the Bakers allowed the Oleruds to live in their home with them a year while the Oleruds' house was being built. Seems to be that the Oleruds are being the ultra duchey selfish neighbor.

 

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2012-11-10 04:20:07 PM

GAT_00: $5 says a HOA would have ordered it cut down long ago.


Or the HOA would have just removed the trees on their own while the owners were away and then send them a bill.
 
2012-11-10 04:20:49 PM

airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.


Trees that old, that big? No. Probably not. Its root systems is likely too extensive to move it without killing it.
 
2012-11-10 04:22:21 PM
Wow, what a dick.
 
2012-11-10 04:33:59 PM
In other news, the neighbors had decided their attic need better ventilation.

amazingdata.com
 
2012-11-10 04:38:36 PM
He may have won this battle but I have a feeling that the war is FAR FAR from over. Except the first flaming bag of shiat on your door way when the clock strikes one!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-10 04:38:43 PM
Is there a US equivalent of a tree preservation order or something?

In my state trees along the edge of a road are semi-protected, so-called "shade trees." You need a permit from the town tree warden to cut one down. Trees within property lines are fair game unless they are near wetlands.

There was a roadside tree in the path of development. Developer applied for a removal permit for a healthy 130 year old tree. Tree warden said NFW, build around it. Time passed. Work started in the area. Developer applied again for a removal permit for a 131 year old tree that had been battered by construction equipment and appeared unlikely to survive. Tree warden approved the permit.
 
2012-11-10 04:39:05 PM
John Olerud is an asshole.

Per the article the tree was not something new added after the asshole bought the property, so this is exactly like the assholes who buy a house near a school/train track/highway/airport/daycare and then sue because of the noise.

I wish I was a theist so I would at least have the satisfaction to believe that the asshole would one day be judged for his bad behaviour but I can only hope he get google bombed instead.
 
2012-11-10 04:39:43 PM
What a farking douche
 
2012-11-10 04:40:03 PM

offacue: Are you saying that putting up forest green or maroon curtains is against the rules?


Yup they would have to have a white liner.
 
2012-11-10 04:44:16 PM
Farkin bs. You're not entitled to an amazing view from your home. Nor are you entitled to the maximum possible value your property could possibly be worth if only your neighbors would rearrange their property for you. Well...I guess it was determined that the guy is in fact entitled to these things. Shouldn't be though. I hope his house burns down.
 
2012-11-10 04:47:31 PM
We ( neighbors and I ) routinely cut down trees on the unmaintained city property each year--- same reason. These are 'wild' trees the grow like weeds.
 
2012-11-10 04:49:38 PM
i hope his house gets caught up in a mudslide and then he can learn what happens when you clear the land in the name of scenery.
 
2012-11-10 04:51:23 PM
Meh. I had DirecTV until the trees south of my house grew too tall. I never considered suing my neighbor because of it, I just switched to cable.
 
2012-11-10 04:52:52 PM

airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.


No.

That size the root ball would be massive. Plus pines tend to have to have tap roots. No way to cut it, and even if there were shock would likely kill it.
 
2012-11-10 04:54:09 PM
The HOA I live in once had to fine a couple of bonehead homeowners for cutting down a bunch of trees on a slope so they can have a better view. The trees, unfortunately for the boneheads, belonged not to them but to the HOA which legally owns and is responsible for the slope. Our area is prone to fires and subsequent mudslides, so the trees were not only property, but were doing a function of helping to keep the slope stable. The tree cutters bleated on about their property values, too.
 
2012-11-10 04:56:56 PM
Never underestimate the pig-ignorance of the Rich.
Some schmuck bought a house in Southport, CT a few years ago. The plot included two of the oldest beech trees in the State. All of a sudden, it turned out that both trees were sick, and had to be removed. Despite the protests of his neighbours (also fairly well-off), the trees came down. We assumed that he was trying to improve his view of the harbour, but now he's subdividing the property and building a huge house right where the trees used to stand.
Try GISsing Southport, CT, to get an idea of the environment where this is happening.
 
2012-11-10 04:59:43 PM

Felgraf: airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.

Trees that old, that big? No. Probably not. Its root systems is likely too extensive to move it without killing it.


Damn straight. Take a look at that pic again. You'd need to remove half the street to get any of the roots up.
Trust me - unless you've spend a few days trying to uproot a stump - you have no idea how deep and wide a tree exists underground.

Not to mention having to come up with some way to move something that weighs at least a few tons without messing it up too badly.
 
2012-11-10 05:03:36 PM
 
2012-11-10 05:03:50 PM

Karac: [seattletimes.com image 296x400]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing was there when he bought the place.


Can't tell from the pic but if that is a pine tree some of them grow pretty fast. In jr high I rode to school in a bus whose company name was Pinetree. Two years runnin they gave us a tiny little pine tree, more like a cutting, only a foot or two tall. We planted them on either side of our front porch and less than 10 years later had to cut them down as they started screwing our home foundations with their roots. Depending how long ago he bought the house that tree might have been quite a bit smaller.

Guy's still a douchenozzle, just sayin.....
 
2012-11-10 05:11:09 PM

Tom_Slick: I don't know, my HOA is dragging its damn feet over a neighbor who has covered all the windows on the front of his property with plywood on the inside, it wouldn't be bad if he would just paint it white or black but leaving it unfinished looks very ghetto fabulous.

/The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."


Hello Tom, it's Tim Todd from across the way, I put the window treatment up because I called the HOA to complain that..
1)Your pictures are slightly eskew in the bedroom
2)The shade of paint you use isn't a nice color, it offends me.
3)Also, during your sex romps, your wife could use less "oh's" and add a few more "ahh's in there" the rhythm is off.
 
2012-11-10 05:14:11 PM
Is this town one of those towns that also charges a "view tax"?
 
2012-11-10 05:16:26 PM

TimGuy: Hello Tom, it's Tim Todd from across the way, I put the window treatment up because I called the HOA to complain that..
1)Your pictures are slightly eskew in the bedroom
2)The shade of paint you use isn't a nice color, it offends me.
3)Also, during your sex romps, your wife could use less "oh's" and add a few more "ahh's in there" the rhythm is off.



That just proves you don't live near me, my is Jewish, so it is "I get a diamond for this right?"
 
2012-11-10 05:18:44 PM
I'd say that fence needs to be higher...
 
2012-11-10 05:20:50 PM

From the article:



An appraiser hired by John and Kelly Olerud said their $4 million home would be worth $255,000 more if the rare Chinese pine and the Colorado spruce across the street were cut down and replaced with smaller plants. The Chinese pine's value is estimated at more than $18,000.


The board specified that the trees must be removed. It did not specify how much Mr. Baker should be compensated for their removal.

If the trees are worth $18,000.00 removing them creates an increase of $255,000.00 for Mr. Olerud, and Mr. Olerud is forcing Mr. Baker to remove the trees, then it is perfectly acceptable for Mr. Baker to charge Mr. Olerud $273,000.00: this is their value as given by Mr. Olerud's own appraiser.
 
2012-11-10 05:21:24 PM
I'd just cut down the tree as he asked, ensuring it accidentally fell on his house.
 
2012-11-10 05:22:34 PM
It must be nice to be so rich that having a good view of the Seattle skyline is more important than being on good terms with your neighbors.
 
2012-11-10 05:23:47 PM
His yard should suddenly have a giant spill of roundup.
 
2012-11-10 05:24:20 PM
My HOA doesn't let me keep my charcoal grill on my condo patio. The bylaws cite a fire code that says a charcoal grill can't be operated within 10 feet of any flammable construction. My HOA translates that as I can't store the grill on my patio. WTF.
 
2012-11-10 05:25:40 PM
baseball dude needs a bat to the face.
 
2012-11-10 05:31:40 PM
Jaws_Victim: If the jerk insists on it being cut down he sold have to reimburse them for the cost of the tree, a suitable replacement, and the labor involved with it, if he is so desperate for a nice view.

Huh. I wonder if that was addressed in the article?
 
2012-11-10 05:34:11 PM

Barricaded Gunman: Jaws_Victim: If the jerk insists on it being cut down he sold have to reimburse them for the cost of the tree, a suitable replacement, and the labor involved with it, if he is so desperate for a nice view.

Huh. I wonder if that was addressed in the article?


there's an article??
 
2012-11-10 05:35:51 PM
Did he wear a helmet to the hearing?
 
2012-11-10 05:38:39 PM

Jaws_Victim: Spiralmonkey: The Olerud guy sounds like a prize coont. Is there a US equivalent of a tree preservation order or something? It certainly looks like the tree was there first.

They said the tree was worth at least 18k too. That stupid tree is worth almost as much as I make in a year. If the jerk insists on it being cut down he sold have to reimburse them for the cost of the tree, a suitable replacement, and the labor involved with it, if he is so desperate for a nice view. Or he shold buy the house across the street, or one with a better view. I would also sue the appraiser for putting the idea in his head.


You sound poor. You also sound like you DNRTFA.
 
2012-11-10 05:41:30 PM
FTFA: the tree-owning neighbor, ''Bruce Baker, a Presbyterian minister and a professor of business ethics at Seattle Pacific University, said his reaction was one of disbelief, but he didn't know if he would appeal the decision to the City Council.

"I'm going to need to think that over. It's so fresh and shocking I haven't had time to react. I'm still stunned," Baker said Thursday.''


No kidding.
I suppose it wouldn't be ethical to plant a more expensive, faster-growing tree in its stead?...
 
2012-11-10 05:42:47 PM
time to salt his lawn for the new growing season
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-10 05:49:23 PM
More information on the view ordinance: http://www.clydehill.org/community-resources/neighborhood-matters/#Tr e es. It seems a tree on the property line is legally considered a "fence" and a "naturally grown" fence can't be higher than 8 feet.
 
2012-11-10 05:51:56 PM
TFA: "An appraiser hired by John and Kelly Olerud said their $4 million home would be worth $255,000 more if the rare Chinese pine and the Colorado spruce across the street were cut down and replaced with smaller plants. The Chinese pine's value is estimated at more than $18,000."

Hi, this is Mr. Baker. Yes, I just hired a tree appraiser, a property appraiser, and a tree removal appraiser. The tree's value is appraised at $100k, the property appraiser indicated a decrease in my property value of $500k with removal of the tree, and due to it's tricky location, the removal service quoted me $150k for removal of the tree. So entire loss for me includes $500k. Cut me a check and we'll call it even.
 
2012-11-10 05:56:54 PM
Where is your hero worship now?
 
2012-11-10 06:11:26 PM
Really? by the looks of it that tree has been there for years or decades. it should have been left alone and the ordinance used to force its removal is nothing short of assnine.
 
2012-11-10 06:12:58 PM

Tom_Slick: I don't know, my HOA is dragging its damn feet over a neighbor who has covered all the windows on the front of his property with plywood on the inside, it wouldn't be bad if he would just paint it white or black but leaving it unfinished looks very ghetto fabulous.

/The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."


So which is it? Are you describing window treatments that face the street or face the windows.

/Seems to be a mutually exclusive situation there.

//Still hung over, so probably not.
 
2012-11-10 06:18:54 PM
What a cockgobbler.
 
2012-11-10 06:40:33 PM

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: So which is it? Are you describing window treatments that face the street or face the windows.


Face the street and face the windows on in the same from the inside of the house.
 
2012-11-10 06:40:55 PM
Kind of like the person that buys property next to a hog farm and then biatches about the stink
 
2012-11-10 06:44:13 PM
How old is the trees in question ? If they where there before 1953 they are exempt from the ordinance . It up to the Olerud to prove the trees are younger than 1953 .
 
2012-11-10 06:45:40 PM

NewportBarGuy: My dad tried to get one of those about 20 years ago, but the guy had way more money to fight it. So, one winter, dad and a neighbor just cut them down. :)

Winning!

/Yes, we're a family of felons.


Family full of something else is more like it
 
2012-11-10 07:03:05 PM
This is what happens when proles suddenly get rich.
 
2012-11-10 07:03:17 PM
From Olerud's Wikipedia entry:

"This neighbor (whose trees are threatened) had given Olerud's family the use of his home for 8 months while Olerud's house was being built."

Any more douche points left to award?
 
2012-11-10 07:05:00 PM

Soup_In_A_Basket: Did he wear a helmet to the hearing?


I was thinking the same thing.
 
2012-11-10 07:05:05 PM

Sarcastic Fringehead: If I was the Baker's I'd hire Clark Griswald to decorate my house for Xmas


And tell the neighbor the decorations are staying up all year long. There's no law against it in most areas.

Then, show him these concepts for the new house paint colors you're considering. I'm partial to the zebra stripes, though perhaps in dayglow orange. Of course, only on the side of the house facing his.

Crazy Painted Houses
 
2012-11-10 07:06:15 PM
It's a shiatbag society we live in when when someone can fark up a neighbors property in order to increase their own "value".
 
2012-11-10 07:06:37 PM
This is a good example of why people don't trust government.
 
2012-11-10 07:13:11 PM

TimGuy: Tom_Slick: I don't know, my HOA is dragging its damn feet over a neighbor who has covered all the windows on the front of his property with plywood on the inside, it wouldn't be bad if he would just paint it white or black but leaving it unfinished looks very ghetto fabulous.

/The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."

Hello Tom, it's Tim Todd from across the way, I put the window treatment up because I called the HOA to complain that..
1)Your pictures are slightly eskew in the bedroom
2)The shade of paint you use isn't a nice color, it offends me.
3)Also, during your sex romps, your wife could use less "oh's" and add a few more "ahh's in there" the rhythm is off.


That last line, I laughed my ass off at.
 
2012-11-10 07:23:10 PM

airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.


They could start an Occupy movement.

Occupy TIme! Hell... I'd join. In fact, I already am.
 
2012-11-10 07:23:26 PM
More Bullshiate "I want to tell you what you have to do with YOUR property."
 
2012-11-10 07:25:10 PM
WAAAHHHH! You're obstructing my view of nature with a tree!!
 
2012-11-10 07:37:06 PM
I thought Fark ha a "What a Dick" tag?
Didn't there used to be a "What a Dick" tag?
Coulda swore there was a "What a Dick" tag?
We need a "What a Dick" tag!
 
2012-11-10 07:39:10 PM
"Hey, you know, your house obstructs my view of Seattle, too. That's gonna have to go, too..."

A**hole...
 
2012-11-10 07:49:43 PM

ZAZ: More information on the view ordinance: http://www.clydehill.org/community-resources/neighborhood-matters/#Tr e es. It seems a tree on the property line is legally considered a "fence" and a "naturally grown" fence can't be higher than 8 feet.


That is interesting. I wonder if they were thinking of common, fast growing trees planted in rows at fence lines. I could see limiting the height of an entire row of trees. They should have been more specific in writing that ordinance.

I still think the guy is a schmuck.
 
2012-11-10 07:52:33 PM
FTFA: Member Jack Bookey responded, "I look at the way it's written, not the way it should be written."

Translation: "I idolize athletes and wish Olerud would give me the Sandusky treatment and hug my guts out in the shower when this is finished."
 
2012-11-10 08:05:44 PM

ZAZ: More information on the view ordinance: http://www.clydehill.org/community-resources/neighborhood-matters/#Tr e es. It seems a tree on the property line is legally considered a "fence" and a "naturally grown" fence can't be higher than 8 feet.


I don't think it's at all uncommon for developments to have height restrictions on trees included in the CC&Rs. One of the new, upscale developments around here limits tree height to 18 ft, IIRC. The idea is to not encroach on the neighbors "viewshed". They've gotten casual about it and some of the trees are well about that height. I predict there will be some battles similar to the one in TFA, although with the decimal points moved at least one place to the left.
 
2012-11-10 08:21:03 PM
Ugh. That shiat happens here fairly often.
 
2012-11-10 08:21:28 PM

Abox: My HOA doesn't let me keep my charcoal grill on my condo patio. The bylaws cite a fire code that says a charcoal grill can't be operated within 10 feet of any flammable construction. My HOA translates that as I can't store the grill on my patio. WTF.


Some old jew woman doesn't like how that looks and has power over you. Congratulations, you got exactly what you asked for when you signed up for one of these power tripping Stepford wives associations.
 
2012-11-10 08:26:27 PM
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas

The trouble with the maples
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light

But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'

Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe and saw ...
 
2012-11-10 08:31:29 PM
[nukeitfromorbititstheonlywaytobesure.jpg]
 
2012-11-10 08:43:44 PM
It's a law. He's not the first to invoke it.
 
2012-11-10 08:51:37 PM
instead of cutting down the trees, they should just gouge Ole-rude's eyes out. Then he wouldn't have to worry about the view.
 
2012-11-10 08:52:42 PM
Guy just increased the value of your home by $255,000.00.

Pay the man, dick.
 
2012-11-10 08:58:43 PM

Karac: Felgraf: airplane_mech2: I'm pretty sure the trees can be safely moved to some "other" part of the peoples property? If not, it could still be moved somewhere else. It's still a dick move. $4 million home and your gonna quibble over $225,000? These people really need something to do to occupy their time.

Trees that old, that big? No. Probably not. Its root systems is likely too extensive to move it without killing it.

Damn straight. Take a look at that pic again. You'd need to remove half the street to get any of the roots up.
Trust me - unless you've spend a few days trying to uproot a stump - you have no idea how deep and wide a tree exists underground.

Not to mention having to come up with some way to move something that weighs at least a few tons without messing it up too badly.


Does no one know how to use Google anymore?

Treemover.com
 
2012-11-10 09:00:48 PM
I wonder if he wore his helmet to court.

I actually used to like him. I'd pee on his baseball card now. Seriously, I'd kick $10 to a Kickstarter to pay the other guys legal expenses. Anyone else?
 
2012-11-10 09:03:19 PM
It's even worse than that! OMG what a douche-nozzle. From Wikipedia-

"This neighbor had given Olerud's family the use of his home for 8 months while Olerud's house was being built."
 
2012-11-10 09:18:54 PM

Tom_Slick: I don't know, my HOA is dragging its damn feet over a neighbor who has covered all the windows on the front of his property with plywood on the inside,


Does he drive a Pontiac Aztek?
 
2012-11-10 09:52:44 PM

offacue: Tom_Slick: /The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."

Are you saying that putting up forest green or maroon curtains is against the rules?


Good god, I hope so.
 
2012-11-10 10:05:38 PM

atomic-age: offacue: Tom_Slick: /The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."

Are you saying that putting up forest green or maroon curtains is against the rules?

Good god, I hope so.


Hunter green would be much nicer.
 
2012-11-10 10:10:53 PM

ackb4r: Never suspected Olerud would be a grade a douche bag.


I bet his wife is behind it.
 
2012-11-10 10:23:35 PM
Good. Out of the older trees in this city, people don't bother to take care of trimming them and allow the branches to fall all over the roads and parked cars when storms hit. If you can't take care of your property, expect the city to take care of it for you.
 
2012-11-10 10:28:47 PM
If I was the guy that had to cut down that tree, this would be considered an act of war.
 
2012-11-10 10:30:59 PM
Meh. It's all fun and games until he answers the front door to a facefull of acid.
 
2012-11-10 11:02:14 PM
I am actually shocked a HOA doesn't decrease the value of the home, due to the douchiness usually involved
 
2012-11-10 11:10:44 PM
Reminds me of the rich yuppie quims who move to Whidbey Island, Wa and then complain about the noise from the Naval Air Station that has been there for 70 years.
 
2012-11-10 11:30:23 PM

moefuggenbrew: Abox: My HOA doesn't let me keep my charcoal grill on my condo patio. The bylaws cite a fire code that says a charcoal grill can't be operated within 10 feet of any flammable construction. My HOA translates that as I can't store the grill on my patio. WTF.

Some old jew woman doesn't like how that looks and has power over you. Congratulations, you got exactly what you asked for when you signed up for one of these power tripping Stepford wives associations.


Wow. You're quite the little schmeckel.
 
2012-11-10 11:33:02 PM
What's that plant that only blooms once a century, but when it does, it smells like dead bodies? Plant that, then die and will your property to the National Park Service.
 
2012-11-10 11:34:12 PM
He should just plant a Tree of Heaven further inside the property line. I think they grow about 10' per year. Google it yourself, I'm too tired.
 
2012-11-10 11:42:06 PM

KentuckyBob: Aarontology: So a rich guy got the government to destroy someone else's property because he felt entitled to something.

Hey we're all just trying to move Forward like Barry would want us.


farm3.static.flickr.com

The Stingy Artist

Gessen was an artist monk. Before he would start a drawing or painting he always insisted upon being paid in advance, and his fees were high. He was known as the "Stingy Artist."

A geisha once gave him a commission for a painting. "How much can you pay?" inquired Gessen.

"Whatever you charge," replied the girl, "but I want you to do the work in front of me."

So on a certain day Gessen was called by the geisha. She was holding a feast for her patron.

Gessen with fine brush work did the painting. When it was completed he asked the highest sum of his time.

He received his pay. Then the geisha turned to her patron, saying: "All this artist wants is money. His paintings are fine but his mind is dirty; money has caused it to become muddy. Drawn by such a filthy mind, his work is not fit to exhibit. It is just about good enough for one of my petticoats."

Removing her skirt, she then asked Gessen to do another picture on the back of her petticoat.

"How much will you pay?" asked Gessen.

"Oh, any amount," answered the girl.

Gessen named a fancy price, painted the picture in the manner requested, and went away.

It was learned later that Gessen had these reasons for desiring money:

A ravaging famine often visited his province. The rich would not help the poor, so Gessen had a secret warehouse, unknown to anyone, which he kept filled with grain, prepared for those emergencies.

From his village to the National Shrine the road was in very poor condition and many travellers suffered while traversing it. He desired to build a better road.

His teacher had passed away without realizing his wish to build a temple, and Gessen wished to complete this temple for him.

After Gessen had accomplished his three wishes he threw away his brushes and artist's materials and, retiring to the mountains, never painted again.
 
2012-11-10 11:56:42 PM
I hope Olerud had some good security cameras, because at this point he's basically assured any vandalism that occurs on his property will have no witnesses.
 
2012-11-11 12:24:39 AM

NewportBarGuy: My dad tried to get one of those about 20 years ago, but the guy had way more money to fight it. So, one winter, dad and a neighbor just cut them down. :)

Winning!

/Yes, we're a family of felons.


Felony? Nah, just give a couple of kids a saw and $100, the $100 after the trees fall down. Nobody knows what happened.
 
2012-11-11 01:47:25 AM
In his playing days, I tended to refer to him as John Old-n-Rude. Now I know why.
 
2012-11-11 02:01:35 AM
Trees are overrated.

Also, that Rush song is an anti-socialism song. Maybe Romney could've used it.
 
2012-11-11 03:14:53 AM
Board member Catherine McLamb said she was troubled that the city code considers the effect of a tree on the value of a property bought when the tree was already there. "One is not entitled to enhance your view," she said.

So at least one board member had some common sense.


Removing the trees wouldn't unreasonably decrease the Bakers' enjoyment of their property, the board said. The view ordinance says an owner's enjoyment of a tree must be determined "by an objective evaluation," and "the personal attachment of a party to particular trees or landscaping shall not be compelling."

Because the Bakers' trees can be replaced with something smaller, "They can enjoy their privacy and shade and whatever else the tree provided for them," board member Bruce Eastes said.


Right. They just can't enjoy their view of those particular trees. Who even says they cared about privacy or shade? Maybe they just liked the way the damned trees looked? Since when is "enjoyment" objective anyway? Farking hell, people are stupid.


Olerud sounds like a total ass. The trees were there when he bought the property. That should have been the end of it. Well, he'd better spend many many hours enjoying his new 180-degree western view once the trees are removed. But of course you know he's not going to do more than glance that direction a couple times each day. What an asshole. I hope his neighbors can find something on his property that ruins their view.
 
2012-11-11 04:21:17 AM

Tom_Slick: /The rules state "All window treatments facing the street must be white or black facing the windows."


What the heck's a "window treatment"?
 
2012-11-11 08:26:01 AM
Find someone who will discover an endangered bird bilding a nest in the tree. Endangered wildlife habitat. Looks like the tree stays. Then repaint the house day glo orange and lime green zebra stripes. Stop cutting the grass, and decorate for christmas. Then buy a project car to restore and leave it out in the driveway. Sure, parts for that 82 AMC are hard to come by, and the thing is more rust than useable metal, but you have such a passion for it that it almost matches your passion for really loud gangsta rap before church on Sunday mornings and holidays.
 
2012-11-11 09:20:18 AM
Replace em with a coupla nice low hedges neatly trimmed

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-11 10:53:53 AM
dick move man, dick move... If the view was obstructed when you bought the house, then tough shiat, live with it.
 
2012-11-11 11:20:42 AM
At least with local government, the tree owners have a right to appeal, and there is no contractual language waiving their rights over such matters giving the HOA t he right to require the trees removed. The tree owners should be able to afford a lawyer and fight this if they want to do so. If an Asshat has clout and favors to move a city council, same asshat could more easily influence a HOA.

/HOAs always mean the homeowner has fewer rights than local government.
//HOAs are more likely to help the ashhats than stop them
 
2012-11-11 12:34:25 PM
Fark all you Olerud haters. The person who is an ignorant jackass is whomever planted that tree in the first place. You tree huggers would be singing a different tune if the neighbor's giant tree grew into the power lines and knocked out your power during a storm, which happens all the time in Seattle.

Note to know it alls: Do not plant a tree that will grow tall in view neighborhoods which have view protection ordinances. If you want to live in a forest, then don't live in a view protection neighborhood.

Plant the right tree in the right place, yeesh, it's not rocket science.
 
2012-11-11 01:49:04 PM

encephlavator: Fark all you Olerud haters. The person who is an ignorant jackass is whomever planted that tree in the first place. You tree huggers would be singing a different tune if the neighbor's giant tree grew into the power lines and knocked out your power during a storm, which happens all the time in Seattle.

Note to know it alls: Do not plant a tree that will grow tall in view neighborhoods which have view protection ordinances. If you want to live in a forest, then don't live in a view protection neighborhood.

Plant the right tree in the right place, yeesh, it's not rocket science.


encephlavator is either Olerud, lazy or slow.

/Take your pick. 
//No, not the nose
 
2012-11-11 02:31:04 PM

Karac: Not to mention having to come up with some way to move something that weighs at least a few tons without messing it up too badly.


This might work. Pretty cool devices.

www.bigtreesonthemove.com
 
2012-11-11 02:59:49 PM
Nothing a little arson can't fix.
 
2012-11-11 10:44:40 PM
Christ, what an asshole.
 
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