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(Salon)   The biggest threat to conservatism now might be conservative media   (salon.com) divider line 34
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2012-11-10 12:13:49 PM
4 votes:
Also teabaggers, the religious right, and the fact that 60% of their platform boils down to, "Please point me toward the nearest corporate cock so I can suck it," and the other 40%, "Hrrrghghmmmgh, urrrrghghhh shllllrrrrk grrrrmmm urrrrrgghgh glerk."
2012-11-10 12:15:37 PM
3 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com

I always thought that what was funny about this cartoon wasn't that Rove (and many other conservatives) actually believed that repetition created reality, but that they believe that with enough repetition you can get away with acting like it's reality. This election makes me think the first explanation is actually true. I'm not sure if that's even funnier, or just kind of disturbing.
2012-11-10 12:14:07 PM
3 votes:
You know, once you harmonize the statistical quirks and unskew the results, this is actually a good thing for the GOP.
2012-11-10 12:11:22 PM
3 votes:
Ah, conservative media. Not news, but a warm cocoon for the hateful and donning damp underwear.
2012-11-10 11:57:47 AM
3 votes:

i upped my meds-up yours: It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.


Man, I really want potato chips and bourbon now...
2012-11-10 04:21:02 PM
2 votes:
Feb 1994

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2012-11-10 03:59:00 PM
2 votes:

randomjsa: No, that's not how it works.

Conservative media helps conservatives by being honest.

Liberal media helps liberals by being dishonest.


"Is this just math you do to make Republicans feel better?"

thedailybanter.com
2012-11-10 02:06:28 PM
2 votes:

Millennium: Over the past few decades, but especially the most recent, those in power among the liberals have done an excellent job of convincing the rank and file that the opposition is unthinking, greedy, hateful, dishonest, delusional... in a word, evil in the mustache-twirling villain sense.


Unthinking:  upload.wikimedia.org

Greedy: static3.businessinsider.com


Hateful: upload.wikimedia.org

Dishonest: www.biography.com

and last, but not least;

Delusional: static01.mediaite.com
2012-11-10 12:59:22 PM
2 votes:
I'm getting tired of you people bad mouthing the good name of jerking off.
2012-11-10 12:05:52 PM
2 votes:
I suspect they're all potted up overweight dope fiends that will say anything to keep the handouts rolling in to the elderly and unemployed white people in southern states. This great nation of ours was founded on hard work and Christianity, not socialism and cults.
2012-11-10 10:53:26 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: dumbobruni: does anyone else remember liberals and the media declaring the GOP as in serious trouble after the 2008 elections?

I certainly do.

does anyone else remember the GOP cleaning the Democrats' clock in 2010?

I certainly do.

Are you a witch?


No, I'm you.
2012-11-10 06:41:29 PM
1 votes:

Vegemite: soaboutthat: i upped my meds-up yours: It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.

You leave bourbon out of this. Bourbon did nothing to you. It's more like a potato-chips and bud light jack-off session.

What is wrong with that?


Ever get salt in your pee-hole?
2012-11-10 05:49:49 PM
1 votes:
farm9.staticflickr.com
2012-11-10 03:12:29 PM
1 votes:
No, that's not how it works.

Conservative media helps conservatives by being honest.

Liberal media helps liberals by being dishonest.
2012-11-10 03:00:06 PM
1 votes:
Is there a liberal equivalent of the conservative media? (Please don't say MSM.) I know people occasionally point to MSNBC as the "mirror" of FoxNews, but I don't feel that's entirely accurate. What about Rush, Beck, Hannity, etc.? NPR is sometimes brought up as a counter to Rush & Beck, but I don't think that's accurate, either. And, or course, Stewart's & Colbert's names are often mentioned as liberal mouthpieces but they don't spew a bunch of crap so much as they highlight what others are spewing.
Is there a nationally syndicated liberal "firebrand" somewhere in AM radio giving lip service to left wing positions while using them to demonize Republicans for the purpose of making his listeners feel threatened so that he can comfort them?


On an unrelated note...
threadjack
This is why I love Fark. I'm reading along through a rational discussion about a topic that interests me, with various ideas being debated from different viewpoints when BAM! I come across this:

Aarontology: I'm getting tired of you people bad mouthing the good name of jerking off.

and suddenly I've got mountain dew coming out of my nose and I'm choking like a 14-year old kid taking his first bong hit. If I had more time to spend, I'd probably have to get totalFark.
/threadjack
2012-11-10 02:02:20 PM
1 votes:

Millennium: I think there may actually be something to this, though not in the way Slate spins it.

Over the past few decades, but especially the most recent, those in power among the liberals have done an excellent job of convincing the rank and file that the opposition is unthinking, greedy, hateful, dishonest, delusional... in a word, evil in the mustache-twirling villain sense. Conservative media should have taken up the task of disproving this Big Lie, but has instead, to put it mildly, played directly into it. We lost because the people see us as wolves, and now we have to prove that we are not, going up against the mountains of evidence that our own media did more work to provide than theirs did to gather.


You could try just not being so evil. That might work.
2012-11-10 01:11:43 PM
1 votes:
It was an eye-opener for me when I realized that "conservative truth" had diverged significantly from actual facts. It's really hard to have an argument with someone - or at least a useful argument - when they start with assumptions quite at odds with reality. How can I argue that the loss of so many government jobs over the last 4 years has offset much of the gains in private employment, when he can't actually wrap his head around the fact that Xa < Xb. I think it's become simply a religious thing for them, while religious beliefs are mostly harmless (an accountant doesn't need to accept that transubstantiation is primie facie false, unless he tries to change CapEx into OpEx to misstate asset value - yet, of course, Bernie Ebbers *was* a devout christian, and did attempt to perform the same miracle, failed, and caused one of the largest corporate scandals in history, for which he is still rotting in prison)

Ok, maybe my hypoethesis just disproved itself. Maybe instead of making people piss in a bottle to see what they smoke before hiring them, we should give them a bottle of piss, and ask them if they'll drink it, after a priest affirms that it's been changed into a nice chardonnay?
2012-11-10 01:03:16 PM
1 votes:
Really, Romney only lost Washington, Colorado, and California due to casual drug use ballots. I think it's pretty clear that when those states realize that they can't do what they want because of the federal government, those voters will be coming back to small government republicans in droves.
2012-11-10 01:00:38 PM
1 votes:

Cargo: FloydA: i upped my meds-up yours: It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.

Hey now, that's over the line. What's wrong with potato chips, bourbon, and jacking off?

Yeah! I'm doing all three as I read this thread, and what's wrong with that?!


It could be a problem if you don't lick your fingers enough and get too much salt in the lube. Or if you're eating spicy habanero chips. That could go bad real fast.
2012-11-10 12:41:10 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: What's wrong with potato chips, bourbon, and jacking off?


Sounds like a typical morning around here.
2012-11-10 12:33:50 PM
1 votes:

FloydA: i upped my meds-up yours: It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.

Hey now, that's over the line. What's wrong with potato chips, bourbon, and jacking off?


Yeah! I'm doing all three as I read this thread, and what's wrong with that?!

/well, actually only two of the three
//but which two . . . ?
2012-11-10 12:25:07 PM
1 votes:

blastoh: I think Nate Silver accuracy did a lot more to damage and discredit the conservative media than anything else.

He used facts and science to predict the outcome.

They made shiat up, and said anyone who did not buy into their narrative was part of some conspiracy.

And were wrong.

Then, they acted all shocked when they were wrong.


At some point, people have to ask.... how many times are these people going to be wrong.


That's easy: every time they speak.
2012-11-10 12:24:15 PM
1 votes:
I'm sorry, but no. The biggest threat to conservatism is bigots who want to be told that their Real Murica is being threatened by gays, brown people, Mooslims, vaginas and "gubbmint." If they weren't demanding to be shouted these threats at them, the media wouldn't be a problem. It would adapt and stop shrieking the same tired messages.

If the media is to blame, it's that they amplify something like the whole insurance-paying-for-birth-control thing to the point that conservatives who use birth control take up the "b-b-but religious freedom" chant because they imagine they're scoring points against the monstrous slave reparations soshulist tyranny.

But the core of the problem is insectoid paranoia.
2012-11-10 12:21:42 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: Limbaugh and his buddies are actually some of the best recruiters for the Democratic party in the history of ever.


It worked for me. I was the co-founder and inaugural president of my high school's Republican Club. First time I voted was to re-elect Bush in '04, then by '08 the social conservatives in the party had thoroughly alienated me and still in a haze of denial I voted Libertarian. By '12, no-longer in the right-wing echo chamber and unburdened by motivated reasoning, I voted a near-straight Democrat ticket.

Nowadays conservatives run away from arguments with me really quick once they're confronted with the fact I know their own bullshiat better than they do. Having been duped by it for so long, I'm also fairly contemptuous of it as a result. Though I'm terrible at creating converts like myself. I never know where to start. How do you explain to someone everything they think they know about history and politics is simply not true?

And hell, I'm a white male with a (modest) trust fund. If they're losing me they're in real trouble.
2012-11-10 11:55:01 AM
1 votes:
News flash neocons......Rush Limbaugh and the pundits don't give a shiat about you and your ideology. As long as that steady paycheck keeps rolling in, they will keep shoveling the shiat you want to hear. Outrage and conspiracy theories keep you neocons foaming at the mouth. You are being duped and the pundits are laughing at you.......and rightly so.
2012-11-10 11:54:21 AM
1 votes:
You have to give the GOP some credit, they built their echo chamber with some outstanding resilience.

Unfortunately, they'll end up like Porky from Mother 3.

/I'm a geek, sue me
2012-11-10 11:51:28 AM
1 votes:

Girl From The North Country:

I have to thank you Weav. It was stories like this that kept me confident during the last couple weeks leading up to the election. While the media was touting their horse race narrative, and team Romney was touting enthusiasm, I found comfort in the ground game disparity.

So thanks. CSB


lemme tell ya - it was downright WEIRD for the past two weeks. I didn't comment much about it on fark 'cause I was kinda busy at the time but...I'd put in 8-12 hours, the come home and catch the news to hear Fox News loudly proclaim that Team Romney was charging ahead in key states. Team Romney was going to win Pennsylvania, Team Romney had Ohio in the bag. The Democrats were despondent, the Democrats were not enthusiastic. the Democrats knew they had already lost and were fleeing the campaign in despair. And I'd look around the Democratic party HQ and wonder where in the hell Fox News and Limbaugh were getting their information.

don't get me wrong, both sides have their propaganda...but what GOP pundits were saying was so jarringly different from the reality out in the dust of the campaign trail that it might as well had been pure fantasy. I learned a LOT working for the Obama folks, not just about how to run a campaign but about the GOP news engine.
2012-11-10 11:36:48 AM
1 votes:
You would have thought that this election would have snapped them out of their echo chamber. They have to realize they were being fed a false narrative.

I have a friend who is a huge Glenn Beck fan. He is otherwise a very smart, analytical type. If this doesn't wake him up then I will have lost all hope. He honestly believes he 'knows' Glenn, a true patriot, who would do anything to save this country from the Socialist. Not an 'entertainer' who makes millions off of scaring people about the various atrocities that the Dems want to inflict upon them for all eternity.
2012-11-10 11:33:52 AM
1 votes:

i upped my meds-up yours: It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.


Hey now, that's over the line. What's wrong with potato chips, bourbon, and jacking off?
2012-11-10 11:25:58 AM
1 votes:
I keep wondering when my sane conservative friends will start speaking out and take back their party...I am also waiting for a winning lottery ticket. WHAT? A GIRL CAN DREAM!!!
2012-11-10 11:19:24 AM
1 votes:
I'm okay with this. Because I love it when they call me a slut because of my whore pills. And I love it when they say I'm warring on their Jesus because I say "Happy Holidays."

It's fun for me.
2012-11-10 11:16:05 AM
1 votes:
The next four years will be boom times for conservative media; it's always good for business when your enemies are in power. They will continue to infuriate liberals

I don't think 'infuriate' is the right word. 'slightly amuse' might be better. Limbaugh and his buddies are actually some of the best recruiters for the Democratic party in the history of ever. especially in light of the recent elections - the right wing media is training rank and file Republicans to fail. look, it's a simple fact of life that if you do not understand your opponent then your opponent is going to win. the Democrats understand the GOP very well...we know what they are, we know their goals, we know how they operate and we can plan effectively to beat them in an election...this was proved on election day. But the GOP don't sit down and have a hard headed realistic analysis of their own strengths and weaknesses, let alone a clear view of the Democratic party. they listen to their own propaganda, which tells them that everyone not GOP is corrupt, immoral and weak. The GOP is on the side of GOD, their views are superior, and that everyone is living in a 'christian nation' and deep down that everyone is actually a flag waving bible thumping christian just waiting to vote for a Republican leadership. the Republicans don't stop and consider what works for them and what doesn't. they consider compromise a weakness, and show contempt for even those among their own who want to find a way to work with anyone outside the GOP echo chamber.

Basically, the Republican party teaches their rank and file to lose. if you don't respect what your opponent can do, then you cannot plan an effective strategy to deal with their tactics. if you have contempt for everyone who is different, it blinds you to their potential that's why I lurve Rush Limbaugh - he's killing the GOP and doesn't know it. I don't want to shut him down...I want him right where he's at, doing exactly what he's doing. Dear gods...I hope the man never changes!
2012-11-10 11:15:48 AM
1 votes:
They're just going to keep bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.
2012-11-10 11:14:51 AM
1 votes:
It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.
 
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