The next four years will be boom times for conservative media; it's always good for business when your enemies are in power. They will continue to infuriate liberals. But the next time you see Fox propagating some absurd fantasy of Barack Obama's perfidy, or see Limbaugh and Carlson ramping up another episode of race-baiting, remind yourself that they're probably doing the most harm to their own side.

And they'll keep right on keeping on. There's lots more money to be made spinning yarns for stupid folk.

St_Francis_P: The next four years will be boom times for conservative media; it's always good for business when your enemies are in power. They will continue to infuriate liberals. But the next time you see Fox propagating some absurd fantasy of Barack Obama's perfidy, or see Limbaugh and Carlson ramping up another episode of race-baiting, remind yourself that they're probably doing the most harm to their own side.

And they'll keep right on keeping on. There's lots more money to be made spinning yarns for stupid folk.

Yeah, I think at first that the right-wing media might have been about aiding the Republican Party, but it's a Frankenstein that's grown beyond their control. Someone like Limbaugh or Beck can't dial back the derp now, or they'll lose their audience. So even if the Republican Party asks them to chill, they won't.

They're just going to keep bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.

The next four years will be boom times for conservative media; it's always good for business when your enemies are in power. They will continue to infuriate liberals

I don't think 'infuriate' is the right word. 'slightly amuse' might be better. Limbaugh and his buddies are actually some of the best recruiters for the Democratic party in the history of ever. especially in light of the recent elections - the right wing media is training rank and file Republicans to fail. look, it's a simple fact of life that if you do not understand your opponent then your opponent is going to win. the Democrats understand the GOP very well...we know what they are, we know their goals, we know how they operate and we can plan effectively to beat them in an election...this was proved on election day. But the GOP don't sit down and have a hard headed realistic analysis of their own strengths and weaknesses, let alone a clear view of the Democratic party. they listen to their own propaganda, which tells them that everyone not GOP is corrupt, immoral and weak. The GOP is on the side of GOD, their views are superior, and that everyone is living in a 'christian nation' and deep down that everyone is actually a flag waving bible thumping christian just waiting to vote for a Republican leadership. the Republicans don't stop and consider what works for them and what doesn't. they consider compromise a weakness, and show contempt for even those among their own who want to find a way to work with anyone outside the GOP echo chamber.

Basically, the Republican party teaches their rank and file to lose. if you don't respect what your opponent can do, then you cannot plan an effective strategy to deal with their tactics. if you have contempt for everyone who is different, it blinds you to their potential that's why I lurve Rush Limbaugh - he's killing the GOP and doesn't know it. I don't want to shut him down...I want him right where he's at, doing exactly what he's doing. Dear gods...I hope the man never changes!

I keep wondering when my sane conservative friends will start speaking out and take back their party...I am also waiting for a winning lottery ticket. WHAT? A GIRL CAN DREAM!!!

I hope no one said the same about Mein Kampf.

i upped my meds-up yours: It could be that they'll just go full entertainment, dop the pretense of news analysis and do nothing but crazy Limbovian / Beckesque rant sauce. This would be win-win for the stupids and the rest of us, as anyone with half a brain tunes it out.

Rush or Beck can't turn a rant into an email campaign to Congress these days; their shows are meant for potato-chip-and-bourbon jack-off sessions, and their listeners know it.

Hey now, that's over the line. What's wrong with potato chips, bourbon, and jacking off?

You would have thought that this election would have snapped them out of their echo chamber. They have to realize they were being fed a false narrative.

I have a friend who is a huge Glenn Beck fan. He is otherwise a very smart, analytical type. If this doesn't wake him up then I will have lost all hope. He honestly believes he 'knows' Glenn, a true patriot, who would do anything to save this country from the Socialist. Not an 'entertainer' who makes millions off of scaring people about the various atrocities that the Dems want to inflict upon them for all eternity.

syrynxx: They're just going to keep bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.

again, I was floored by the near complete lack of ground level organization among Team Romney supporters. they had fire, passion for their candidate...but no organization. their own ideology is central command driven, it doesn't teach them individual initiative. everything HAS to be approved by someone further up their chain of command and GOD help you if you do something without authorization. so in the end, they had a bunch of Romney voters standing around waiting for orders while Team Obama ran the table.

Girl From The North Country: You would have thought that this election would have snapped them out of their echo chamber. They have to realize they were being fed a false narrative.

I have a friend who is a huge Glenn Beck fan. He is otherwise a very smart, analytical type. If this doesn't wake him up then I will have lost all hope. He honestly believes he 'knows' Glenn, a true patriot, who would do anything to save this country from the Socialist. Not an 'entertainer' who makes millions off of scaring people about the various atrocities that the Dems want to inflict upon them for all eternity.

talk to your friend. just be aware that transitioning from the echo chamber to reality can be a very jarring experience.

Girl From The North Country: You would have thought that this election would have snapped them out of their echo chamber. They have to realize they were being fed a false narrative.

I have a friend who is a huge Glenn Beck fan. He is otherwise a very smart, analytical type. If this doesn't wake him up then I will have lost all hope. He honestly believes he 'knows' Glenn, a true patriot, who would do anything to save this country from the Socialist. Not an 'entertainer' who makes millions off of scaring people about the various atrocities that the Dems want to inflict upon them for all eternity.

One of the losing GOP congressional candidates actually name-checked Sean Hannity in his concession speech. Of all the great Americans, philosophers, and statesman in history, he chose to pass them all over and quote Sean Farking Hannity.

Weaver95: syrynxx: They're just going to keep bitterly clinging to their guns and religion.

again, I was floored by the near complete lack of ground level organization among Team Romney supporters. they had fire, passion for their candidate...but no organization. their own ideology is central command driven, it doesn't teach them individual initiative. everything HAS to be approved by someone further up their chain of command and GOD help you if you do something without authorization. so in the end, they had a bunch of Romney voters standing around waiting for orders while Team Obama ran the table.

I have to thank you Weav. It was stories like this that kept me confident during the last couple weeks leading up to the election. While the media was touting their horse race narrative, and team Romney was touting enthusiasm, I found comfort in the ground game disparity.

So thanks. CSB

Girl From The North Country: You would have thought that this election would have snapped them out of their echo chamber. They have to realize they were being fed a false narrative.

I have a friend who is a huge Glenn Beck fan. He is otherwise a very smart, analytical type. If this doesn't wake him up then I will have lost all hope. He honestly believes he 'knows' Glenn, a true patriot, who would do anything to save this country from the Socialist. Not an 'entertainer' who makes millions off of scaring people about the various atrocities that the Dems want to inflict upon them for all eternity.

I'm trying to picture a smart analytical type who could simultaneously take Glenn Beck seriously. That does not compute.

Girl From The North Country:

I have to thank you Weav. It was stories like this that kept me confident during the last couple weeks leading up to the election. While the media was touting their horse race narrative, and team Romney was touting enthusiasm, I found comfort in the ground game disparity.

So thanks. CSB

lemme tell ya - it was downright WEIRD for the past two weeks. I didn't comment much about it on fark 'cause I was kinda busy at the time but...I'd put in 8-12 hours, the come home and catch the news to hear Fox News loudly proclaim that Team Romney was charging ahead in key states. Team Romney was going to win Pennsylvania, Team Romney had Ohio in the bag. The Democrats were despondent, the Democrats were not enthusiastic. the Democrats knew they had already lost and were fleeing the campaign in despair. And I'd look around the Democratic party HQ and wonder where in the hell Fox News and Limbaugh were getting their information.

don't get me wrong, both sides have their propaganda...but what GOP pundits were saying was so jarringly different from the reality out in the dust of the campaign trail that it might as well had been pure fantasy. I learned a LOT working for the Obama folks, not just about how to run a campaign but about the GOP news engine.

Marcus Aurelius: Girl From The North Country: You would have thought that this election would have snapped them out of their echo chamber. They have to realize they were being fed a false narrative.

I have a friend who is a huge Glenn Beck fan. He is otherwise a very smart, analytical type. If this doesn't wake him up then I will have lost all hope. He honestly believes he 'knows' Glenn, a true patriot, who would do anything to save this country from the Socialist. Not an 'entertainer' who makes millions off of scaring people about the various atrocities that the Dems want to inflict upon them for all eternity.

I'm trying to picture a smart analytical type who could simultaneously take Glenn Beck seriously. That does not compute.

lol - The cognitive dissonance burns. He hasn't come out of his figurative bunker since Tuesday (he usually IM's me every day). We'll see...

MacWizard: The article's lede: "When Republicans perform a full autopsy on the 2012 elections, they'll realize they only deluded themselves"

Ain't gonna happen anytime soon. They ran an quick post-mortem and decided that the obvious problem was that they simply weren't conservative enough.

yeah but its early yet. i'm sure that right now a bunch of elite GOP inner circle members are sitting around a table somewhere and having a frank, no bullshiat discussion about what they're gonna do for 2014. they got their asses beat and they know it. propaganda aside, they KNOW they lost big and I very strongly suspect that it's shocking enough to force them to confront a reality they're not very fond of admitting exists in the first place.

strange times indeed for the GOP. they might actually be desperate enough to move back to the center.

You know, once you harmonize the statistical quirks and unskew the results, this is actually a good thing for the GOP.

I always thought that what was funny about this cartoon wasn't that Rove (and many other conservatives) actually believed that repetition created reality, but that they believe that with enough repetition you can get away with acting like it's reality. This election makes me think the first explanation is actually true. I'm not sure if that's even funnier, or just kind of disturbing.

Weaver95: MacWizard: The article's lede: "When Republicans perform a full autopsy on the 2012 elections, they'll realize they only deluded themselves"

Ain't gonna happen anytime soon. They ran an quick post-mortem and decided that the obvious problem was that they simply weren't conservative enough.

yeah but its early yet. i'm sure that right now a bunch of elite GOP inner circle members are sitting around a table somewhere and having a frank, no bullshiat discussion about what they're gonna do for 2014. they got their asses beat and they know it. propaganda aside, they KNOW they lost big and I very strongly suspect that it's shocking enough to force them to confront a reality they're not very fond of admitting exists in the first place.

strange times indeed for the GOP. they might actually be desperate enough to move back to the center.

Glad I refreshed the page, because I came to make this point. In fact, I read yesterday (did I see it on Fark?) a conservative op/ed piece that said the GOP needed to drop their opposition to immigration reform, abortion and same sex marriage like...tomorrow, and concentrate on fiscal responsibility and small government if they are to avoid catastrophic losses in 2014 and 2016. So, the introspection is going on, but it remains to be seen whether the party as a whole embraces it, or if the Teahadist wing calling for them to go even further rightward will prevail.

FeedTheCollapse:

I disagree with the bolded portion. Behind the Republicans being firmly up their own ass and ignoring reality, the next biggest problem is that no one really liked Romney. They danced around nominating him during the primaries, but their motivation for voting for Romney had more to do with voting against Obama than supporting any of Romney's policies. Though the willingness to swallow all of Romney's bullshiat was a bit disheartening, but I guess that's what Republicans have come to.

then consider that they had a passionate hatred of Obama and channeled that into support for Romney.

Faux News and Limbaugh aren't just hurting their party, they're hurting the country. They have Americans openly talking about assassination and secession over a CENTRIST PRESIDENT. They are anti-American propagandists.

blastoh: I think Nate Silver accuracy did a lot more to damage and discredit the conservative media than anything else..

to my knowledge, Limbaugh has STILL not mentioned Nate Silver since election night. Remember that Limbaugh spent 6 weeks harshly berating Nate Silver and calling him all sorts of names. Rush 'proved' Nate Silver wrong, and did so at least 5 or 6 times. Now that the data is in and Nate Silver was proven right, Limbaugh hasn't said thing one about the guy.

it's interesting to watch.