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(Washington Examiner)   As befits their exalted status, a TSA baglooter/groper gets a larger annual uniform allowance than a US Marine lieutenant gets...for a lifetime. I feel safer already, knowing that I'll be felt up by somebody who looks sharp   (washingtonexaminer.com) divider line 77
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2012-11-10 12:31:34 PM
Marine Captain here. Like others have said, there is no annual uniform allowance for USMC officers. Enlisted get something like $200-300 per year.

The only officer uniform allowance is a one time $325 or so. I think it was that - it's been awhile. To give you an idea how helpful that is, to get the whole setup of Dress Blues costs between $800 and $900.

This is only a biatching point when we have to buy new uniforms. It's a non issue.
 
2012-11-10 12:34:21 PM
Link

Federal Law mandates that the employer make allowance for the cost of the uniform if it is largely single purpose (aka its not a suit that you could wear out to dinner, a wedding, or some such) and if it would significantly depress the actual wage of the employee to purchase or maintain it on their own. Thus the blue shirt and tan pants required by Walmart would not be covered because they could also be used as everyday cloths, but the TSA people's uniforms would be.
 
2012-11-10 12:36:32 PM

Caffienatedjedi: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong for anyone actually in the USMC, but I was talking to my recruiter and he said the marine uniform stipend was yearly. In fact, checking the Marine times standard allowance for all enlisted marines(after 3 years service) they get $583.40 yearly uniform stipend. No idea what an O-1 or O-2 would get, but the one time thing is complete BS.

Still, TSA goons do not deserve an allowance anywhere close to what serving troops get. Those are the guys that aren't even good enough to be mall cops.


I agree with your post 100%. But come on, why would you insult mall cops like that? Also, you got to have some compensation for when someone says "So...what do you do for a living?" and they have to say "I feel up old people, children and terrorize the mentally challenged as they prepare to board a plane to take them from Bumfark, Arkansas to East Galoshes Corners, Texas"
 
2012-11-10 12:46:54 PM
jackandwater:

Caffienatedjedi: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong for anyone actually in the USMC, but I was talking to my recruiter and he said the marine uniform stipend was yearly. In fact, checking the Marine times standard allowance for all enlisted marines(after 3 years service) they get $583.40 yearly uniform stipend. No idea what an O-1 or O-2 would get, but the one time thing is complete BS.

Still, TSA goons do not deserve an allowance anywhere close to what serving troops get. Those are the guys that aren't even good enough to be mall cops.

I agree with your post 100%. But come on, why would you insult mall cops like that? Also, you got to have some compensation for when someone says "So...what do you do for a living?" and they have to say "I feel up old people, children and terrorize the mentally challenged as they prepare to board a plane to take them from Bumfark, Arkansas to East Galoshes Corners, Texas"


Or, ya know, you could just say that they fill a required niche, and they deal with the public including your pleasant self, and if they were shabby there'd be an entire thread about what shabby jerks they were.

I'm willing to cut a little slack there.
 
2012-11-10 12:49:41 PM

Arctic Phoenix: MattyFridays: mrlewish: Nice way to manipulate apple and oranges into a banana.

Yeah, I'm confused. Aren't BDUs and other uniforms provided by the government? Maybe a Marine can chime in, but it sounds like there's some anti-TSA numbers spinning here.

And as always:

If you have a problem with the TSA, the problem's solution is simple: Staff TSA with vets who are coming home. They are well-trained, they can follow rules and regulations to the letter, they usually aren't criminals, they know how to spot terrorists and for the most part, aren't entitled assholes.

THIS. That's actually a great idea.


Thirded(?)!!!!!
 
2012-11-10 12:53:21 PM
He should compare it with enlisted, they get an annual allowance, though I can't remember what it is.
 
2012-11-10 12:54:05 PM
You know what you could do? You could petition your Representative to get them to change pensions for the US military to increase them.

Oh right, then you wouldn't have anything to biatch about. Can't actually fix government can we Republicans?
 
2012-11-10 01:01:00 PM
Obama 2016.
 
2012-11-10 01:04:12 PM

MattyFridays: If you have a problem with the TSA, the problem's solution is simple: Staff TSA with vets who are coming home. They are well-trained, they can follow rules and regulations to the letter, they usually aren't criminals, they know how to spot terrorists and for the most part, aren't entitled assholes.


I would want more for returning Vets. But it is a great start.

However, the underlined part sounds like you're saying "They know how to spot brown people"
 
2012-11-10 01:13:29 PM
GORDON:

Obama 2016.

Dunno what you're getting at, but I am certain that Romney would have done better... somehow... By some method that he'd tell you about right after he was elected, because he certainly wouldn't do so before you voted for him.

/ not sure what you're on about.
 
2012-11-10 01:18:10 PM

maxheck: GORDON:

Obama 2016.

Dunno what you're getting at, but I am certain that Romney would have done better... somehow... By some method that he'd tell you about right after he was elected, because he certainly wouldn't do so before you voted for him.

/ not sure what you're on about.


Romney would probably just tell everybody who doesn't like the security screening to quit flying commercial and get their own private jets.
 
2012-11-10 01:35:24 PM
FTA: "TSA has about 44,000 employees, who voted 17,326 to 1,774"
17,326
1,774
19,000 actually voted out of 44,000.
 
2012-11-10 01:50:59 PM
Officers buy their own uniforms, and their own food. TSA guys get their uniforms paid for the same way enlisted military guys do.
 
2012-11-10 02:10:33 PM

Nick Nostril: Have you seen the price of jackboots lately?


That was funny.

/sorry, i'm not too up on all of the witty fark meme responses. should I have done the golf clap thing?
 
2012-11-10 02:23:38 PM
Farking fascists. Gut this program and jail the employees.
 
2012-11-10 02:32:49 PM
I don't think a Marine lieutenant will be stuck a lieutenant for a lifetime, or even a career.
 
2012-11-10 04:48:08 PM

Caffienatedjedi: InvertedB: Caffienatedjedi: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong for anyone actually in the USMC, but I was talking to my recruiter and he said the marine uniform stipend was yearly. In fact, checking the Marine times standard allowance for all enlisted marines(after 3 years service) they get $583.40 yearly uniform stipend. No idea what an O-1 or O-2 would get, but the one time thing is complete BS.

Still, TSA goons do not deserve an allowance anywhere close to what serving troops get. Those are the guys that aren't even good enough to be mall cops.

Officers in the US military do not receive any uniform allowance. It's been that way as long as I've been commissioned and with the exception of the random complaint for the sake of complaining there is no real butthurt about it. It's another traditional difference in the treatment of officer versus enlisted in the military and something that is also made up for by significantly higher base pay.

Thanks for the info. I have plans to join up as an officer in the USMC and did not know this. Guess that is something all the pay will go to.


Save your pennies. I think the one time allowance when I got it in 2001 was $325. That did not even cover the cost of my blues coat. I think the total cost of initial uniforms was a few thousand dollars, but you do get paid pretty well so it isn't that big of a deal. The enlisted guys get a yearly allowance because they don't get paid as well. Oh, and Happy Birthday Marines!
 
2012-11-10 04:52:22 PM
If they want spiffy uniforms, let them use the iron they stole from someone's bag. That notwithstanding, the TSA just isntI needed: the turrists domt want to blow up your American Eagle flight to LaCrosse, WI
 
2012-11-10 04:54:12 PM

cmb53208: If they want spiffy uniforms, let them use the iron they stole from someone's bag. That notwithstanding, the TSA just isntI needed: the turrists domt want to blow up your American Eagle flight to LaCrosse, WI


Wouldn't that be mercy killing?
 
2012-11-10 05:54:57 PM
Spooge proofing more expensive than bullet proofing?
 
2012-11-10 06:26:09 PM

DownDaRiver: Arctic Phoenix: MattyFridays: mrlewish: Nice way to manipulate apple and oranges into a banana.

Yeah, I'm confused. Aren't BDUs and other uniforms provided by the government? Maybe a Marine can chime in, but it sounds like there's some anti-TSA numbers spinning here.

And as always:

If you have a problem with the TSA, the problem's solution is simple: Staff TSA with vets who are coming home. They are well-trained, they can follow rules and regulations to the letter, they usually aren't criminals, they know how to spot terrorists and for the most part, aren't entitled assholes.

THIS. That's actually a great idea.

Thirded(?)!!!!!


Fourthed.
Totally on board with this.
Make their pensions/retirement transfer like it does with the post office.
 
2012-11-10 06:47:22 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: cmb53208: If they want spiffy uniforms, let them use the iron they stole from someone's bag. That notwithstanding, the TSA just isntI needed: the turrists domt want to blow up your American Eagle flight to LaCrosse, WI

Wouldn't that be mercy killing?


You're thinking of Milwaukee, not LaCrosse
 
2012-11-11 12:52:42 AM

mbillips: Officers buy their own uniforms, and their own food. TSA guys get their uniforms paid for the same way enlisted military guys do.


That's not entirely true, officers still receive BAS just like the enlisted members, however it is much less. Also, on Navy vessels when underway officers still have to pay for the meals they eat on the ship whereas the enlisted members do not. Probably the weirdest thing about being underway in my opinion.
 
2012-11-11 12:56:42 AM

Beauf: Caffienatedjedi: InvertedB: Caffienatedjedi: Uh, correct me if I'm wrong for anyone actually in the USMC, but I was talking to my recruiter and he said the marine uniform stipend was yearly. In fact, checking the Marine times standard allowance for all enlisted marines(after 3 years service) they get $583.40 yearly uniform stipend. No idea what an O-1 or O-2 would get, but the one time thing is complete BS.

Still, TSA goons do not deserve an allowance anywhere close to what serving troops get. Those are the guys that aren't even good enough to be mall cops.

Officers in the US military do not receive any uniform allowance. It's been that way as long as I've been commissioned and with the exception of the random complaint for the sake of complaining there is no real butthurt about it. It's another traditional difference in the treatment of officer versus enlisted in the military and something that is also made up for by significantly higher base pay.

Thanks for the info. I have plans to join up as an officer in the USMC and did not know this. Guess that is something all the pay will go to.

Save your pennies. I think the one time allowance when I got it in 2001 was $325. That did not even cover the cost of my blues coat. I think the total cost of initial uniforms was a few thousand dollars, but you do get paid pretty well so it isn't that big of a deal. The enlisted guys get a yearly allowance because they don't get paid as well. Oh, and Happy Birthday Marines!


It's true, I believe my actual cost of required uniforms in 2002 was around $4000 and that didn't include uniforms such as the Navy's new NWU or PT uniforms that have come into being and also been revised since that time. Kind of crappy, but like I mentioned earlier is something much more easily stomached on an Officer's pay versus an enlisted person's pay.
 
2012-11-11 06:05:44 AM
[creeps into TSA people's closets]

[sniffs very carefully for veterans]

[powerful veteran-detecting catnose can detect veterans at 3 parts per billion]

[fails to find any just yet, as catnose picks up only 0.2 parts per billion]

[begins to eat the uniforms]

[munch munch munch munch munch.....]
 
2012-11-11 11:27:54 AM
Put those farking TSOs on the job naked and you might get an accptable level of deference to the citizenry.

/also make pocketing those nice things difficult
 
2012-11-11 06:10:31 PM
Hey snocone, that's what I'm trying to do here!!

[munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch munch....]
 
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