Deep Contact: LordJiro: Deep Contact: That's what unions do; shut down companies.Yep. For absolutely no reason whatsoever. It never has anything to do with the policies of people running the company, it's those darn unions!The policy is; if you don't like it here, go somewhere else.
Deep Contact: That's what unions do; shut down companies make sure workers don't get trampled over by greed from the top.
jwmc1971: and when the place does shut down they should deny everyone of these dbags unemployment since they basically quit their jobs . screw them . whining over 8 cents on the dollar when so many cant get work paying them even half of their old salary's . aholes .....still looking for work
Deep Contact: That's what unions do; shut down companies.
surrealbowl: Company is bankrupt but an 8 percent cut is too much.
Gunderson: When the CEOs and the board of directors start driving Ford Festivas, then I'll feel bad for the company." Hostess Brands announced last week it would roll back the pay raises it gave top managers in July 2011 prior to the company's filing for Chapter 11 this past January. While it was boosting managers' pay, Hostess eliminated its 401(k) match for rank-and-file workers and laid off 10 percent of the workforce, according the New York Post."So they screwed the workers and gave themselves raises. So now you have a workforce that is bitter and has low morale. hmmm...I wonder why they are going under
Lee Jackson Beauregard: The other side of this storyIn the union's own words
JimmyTheHutt: Would it be too much to ask the NY Post to tell us the origin of this conflict?
swangoatman: Why would anyone want to own or start a business where the employees set the rules? I guess I did not build that right?
paygun: There's a reason why unions don't start their own companies.
clevernamehere: Deep Contact: LordJiro: Deep Contact: That's what unions do; shut down companies.Yep. For absolutely no reason whatsoever. It never has anything to do with the policies of people running the company, it's those darn unions!The policy is; if you don't like it here, go somewhere else.That's the whole point of unions.In a nation where there is even 1% unemployment, assuming the government doesn't care for the unemployed, at a certain point, no matter how badly workers are treated, and how low the wages are, "Somewhere Else" equates to "starve" or "DIAF."The only way to get employers to consider the needs of the workers is to refuse to work when they aren't being considered. But that doesn't work if there is another guy (or immigrant) who has been out of work for the last half year and is willing to debase himself even further to survive.The whole supposed concept of this country is that there is some kind of upward mobility for those willing to work at it.But if you can't get the wages (or time off) to invest in an education or your own business (or if your business is shut down by the government as unliscenced, etc.), if there's no real chance of raises or promotion, if your health is endangered by the work, and you don't get proper coverage, etc. etc. that concept isn't worth a damn.Is every move by every union a good one? No. Of course not. There wouldn't be jokes about union breaks and wages and such if they were.But unions would've never come into existence if employers could be trusted to give a damn./Not in a union//Could join one now for $3,000///Don't have it////Would only keep me from working//"Right-to-work" State//Slashies
MyRandomName: Union defenders are so hilarious. They ask business to pay more for workers but often go bargain hunting for goods. Vote to buy only union made if you dare. That means flying American airlines over southwest. Stop being hypocrites.
LordJiro: Yep. For absolutely no reason whatsoever. It never has anything to do with the policies of people running the company, it's those darn unions!
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