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2012-11-10 10:53:49 AM
Fewer employees = worse service = lost customers. Great business idea there!

Raise the price of your pie by 50c and move on with life, you idiot.
 
2012-11-10 10:55:54 AM

Prussian_Roulette: This guy's sin was having the gall to explain economic cause and effect and he's being crucified because he wants to stay in the black rather than taking a loss until Obama's magical pixie dust cures the nation.


It's 14 cents.
He's not being crucified for explaining the economic cause. He's being crucified because he's turned it into a political issue and people see it for the bullshiat that it is.
A farking tomato shortage affects the price of pizza more than does the cost of healthcare to employees, and this guy says he can't afford it? Bullshiat.
Like I said before, the non-asshole way to handle this is to explain the economic cause, raise the price 25 cents, enjoy the good PR and that extra 11 cents per pizza.
 
2012-11-10 10:56:21 AM

siphra: Really so business costs go up, and someone has to do lay offs, gee big surprise there, what's asinine is that there are people who really thought companies wouldn't lay people off. This is just round one, and the administration asked a few companies to hold off until after the election, so just wait till those start coming .


Considering a lot of companies are making record profits, this is a dick move. Fark those companies that laid employees off because they'd make 5% less in profits.
 
2012-11-10 10:57:19 AM

Sergeant Grumbles: Prussian_Roulette: This guy's sin was having the gall to explain economic cause and effect and he's being crucified because he wants to stay in the black rather than taking a loss until Obama's magical pixie dust cures the nation.

It's 14 cents.
He's not being crucified for explaining the economic cause. He's being crucified because he's turned it into a political issue and people see it for the bullshiat that it is.
A farking tomato shortage affects the price of pizza more than does the cost of healthcare to employees, and this guy says he can't afford it? Bullshiat.
Like I said before, the non-asshole way to handle this is to explain the economic cause, raise the price 25 cents, enjoy the good PR and that extra 11 cents per pizza.


I figured he was trolling, but your answers were well-put and to the point.
 
2012-11-10 11:03:44 AM

St_Francis_P: I figured he was trolling, but your answers were well-put and to the point.


I'm know and am related to too many people that think exactly like him.
Their answer to "Papa John's workers need healthcare" is "They should get a better job."
 
2012-11-10 11:06:34 AM

Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.


Call me crazy, but Domino's has been pretty decent since they changed their recipe. It's still not as good as a local pizzeria can be, but it's pretty good for a chain restaurant.
 
2012-11-10 11:09:20 AM

Sergeant Grumbles: Prussian_Roulette: This guy's sin was having the gall to explain economic cause and effect and he's being crucified because he wants to stay in the black rather than taking a loss until Obama's magical pixie dust cures the nation.

It's 14 cents.
He's not being crucified for explaining the economic cause. He's being crucified because he's turned it into a political issue and people see it for the bullshiat that it is.
A farking tomato shortage affects the price of pizza more than does the cost of healthcare to employees, and this guy says he can't afford it? Bullshiat.
Like I said before, the non-asshole way to handle this is to explain the economic cause, raise the price 25 cents, enjoy the good PR and that extra 11 cents per pizza.


Seriously, a quarter per pizza?

No one is going to biatch about paying a quarter more for their pizza. A Quarter is nearly worthless these days, anyway.

So, basically, Douchebag "job creator" wants to make a political statement, hopefully will have his ass handed to him when he loses customers and profits because he's a douchebag. He thought having to give his employees healthcare would cost him, I hope to see him offering to suck dick on the streetcorner to get people to come back and buy his shiatty pizza because of all the customers his douchebag move costs him.
 
2012-11-10 11:13:33 AM

NeoCortex42: Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.

Call me crazy, but Domino's has been pretty decent since they changed their recipe. It's still not as good as a local pizzeria can be, but it's pretty good for a chain restaurant.


You're batshiat crazy.  NTTAWWT.
 
2012-11-10 11:16:29 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: This just showed up on my FB feed, and it really fits:
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 413x413]


He hosted a private fundraiser for Mitt Romney at his castle.

Even Mitt thought it was over-the-top: YouTube link
 
2012-11-10 11:17:48 AM

Prussian_Roulette: Go ahead and boycott Papa Johns. I'm sure their margins are just as thin as Dominos or the other chains, and depend on the competent few that put in full hours + overtime to make up for the show-up-to-work-if-they-feel-like-it members of the team. And when you have to order for three dozen people, I'm sure everyone will be willing to pay top dollar for your personal favorite Cygnoid Family Bros. pizza.

This guy's sin was having the gall to explain economic cause and effect and he's being crucified because he wants to stay in the black rather than taking a loss until Obama's magical pixie dust cures the nation.

I'm dreading the jobs reports in early 2013 - wait for the Sequestration shoe to drop next. The Democrats own the economy now - the It's Bush's Fault card has officially expired - and the really sad part is the damage can't be limited to be people who voted for it.


Good to know the Republican - majority House has ceeded control of the budget to the Senate. I must have missed that story!

/"Do what we want or watch the economy burn" is a hell of a way to run a business, or a political party
 
2012-11-10 11:20:28 AM

Sgt Otter: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: This just showed up on my FB feed, and it really fits:
[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 413x413]

He hosted a private fundraiser for Mitt Romney at his castle.

Even Mitt thought it was over-the-top: YouTube link


Wow. Please tell me Mitt's planning a career in stand-up comedy now that he's out of work.
 
2012-11-10 11:23:05 AM
Here's the quote that started all this. John Schnatter, Chief Executive said:

"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare [law] will cost about 11 to 14 cents per pizza - or 15 or 20 cents per order from a corporate basis. To put that in perspective, our average delivery charge is $1.75 to $2.50 - or about 10-fold our estimated cost of the Obamacare [law] to Papa John's. We're not supportive of Obamacare, like most businesses in our industry. But our business model and unit economics [are] about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare.... We have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts - millions of pizzas per year. To give you an example, Peter, let's say fuel goes up, which it does from time to time, and we have to raise delivery charges. We don't like raising delivery charges. But the price of fuel is out of our control, as is Obamacare. So if Obamacare is, in fact, not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto the consumer in order to protect our shareholders' best interest."

Here's what he said to spark this article:

"That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this." and "the good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance." and "Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them." and "Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics."

The last two are from the original source article, here, which mentions he left the speaking event this article sites to run a telethon for Sandy victims.

So is everyone here getting upset because of these comments or because the writer set you up and you fell for it?
 
2012-11-10 11:30:47 AM
I've been working at Papa John's as a second to cover expenses while my wife has been looking for a new job. She has lined up a bunch of really good interviews lately. I was going to wait until she had a lock on the new job, but fark it- I think this as a good excuse as any to quit.
 
2012-11-10 11:33:06 AM
I'm almost as sick of businesses and businessmen who think their "expertise" qualifies them to govern or dictate to government as I am of preachers who think the same thing.
 
2012-11-10 11:33:52 AM

Louis the Unlucky: Here's the quote that started all this. John Schnatter, Chief Executive said:

"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare [law] will cost about 11 to 14 cents per pizza - or 15 or 20 cents per order from a corporate basis. To put that in perspective, our average delivery charge is $1.75 to $2.50 - or about 10-fold our estimated cost of the Obamacare [law] to Papa John's. We're not supportive of Obamacare, like most businesses in our industry. But our business model and unit economics [are] about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare.... We have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts - millions of pizzas per year. To give you an example, Peter, let's say fuel goes up, which it does from time to time, and we have to raise delivery charges. We don't like raising delivery charges. But the price of fuel is out of our control, as is Obamacare. So if Obamacare is, in fact, not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto the consumer in order to protect our shareholders' best interest."

Here's what he said to spark this article:

"That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this." and "the good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance." and "Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them." and "Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics."

The last two are from the original source article, here, which mentions he left the speaking event this article sites to run a telethon for Sandy victims.

So is everyone here getting upset because of these comments or because the writer set you up and you fell for it?


Playing devil's advocate, it's pretty easy to believe people on the right might say something this boneheaded
 
2012-11-10 11:42:02 AM
Is this the same Papa John's CEO that said Papa John's, Inc. can more than afford to build him a 22 car garage with a moat?
 
2012-11-10 11:48:45 AM
Translation: Less people are buying his Pizza since they heard what a douche he is.
 
2012-11-10 11:50:56 AM
Is there a reason pizza chain CEOs are such colossal douchebags? I understand that most CEOs don't align with the (D)s, but seriously

-Papa John Nutter will cut the hours of his employees rather than raise the cost of a pizza by $0.14 because of OBAMAEVILSOCULISMS
-Tom Monaghan has poured millions into pro-life and anti-gay programs, and is busy building a law "school" devoted to christian dominionism.
-We all got to hear plenty from Herman Cain

Is there something in the cheese?
 
2012-11-10 11:51:44 AM

Generation_D: You can't possibly pass the 14 cents on to the consumer, oh no.


He knows that his pizza sells as it is cheap. What I didn't know is that 14 cents is what separates his pizza from another -- he should really try another route for attracting customers.

I'm also perplexed at how cutting worker's hours helps him out. Presumably he's making money every hour they are there with or without an added cost. I can't see how cutting back makes more revenue or profits.
 
2012-11-10 11:57:46 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: Is there a reason pizza chain CEOs are such colossal douchebags? I understand that most CEOs don't align with the (D)s, but seriously

-Papa John Nutter will cut the hours of his employees rather than raise the cost of a pizza by $0.14 because of OBAMAEVILSOCULISMS
-Tom Monaghan has poured millions into pro-life and anti-gay programs, and is busy building a law "school" devoted to christian dominionism.
-We all got to hear plenty from Herman Cain

Is there something in the cheese?


They all have delusions of rulership: first you get the pizza, then you get the power. Like a bunch of little Caesars.
 
2012-11-10 12:01:06 PM
So they're basically announcing that they'll be understaffed which will lead to bad (or worse) customer service. Alrighty then.
 
2012-11-10 12:04:05 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: He probably could just save money by not advertising here in the Northeast anymore, where even the smallest town has one or two pizzerias a million times better than his shops. Oh wait, that wouldn't combine the relief of a hissyfit with the joy of kicking poor people in the balls, now would it?


There's a Papa John's here in town, on Rt. 9, where there's a family-owned pizza joint every 3/4 of a mile or so, if that far. I don't for a second understand who orders that crap they try to pass off as Papa John's "pizza".
 
2012-11-10 12:06:14 PM

ThatGuyGreg: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: He probably could just save money by not advertising here in the Northeast anymore, where even the smallest town has one or two pizzerias a million times better than his shops. Oh wait, that wouldn't combine the relief of a hissyfit with the joy of kicking poor people in the balls, now would it?

There's a Papa John's here in town, on Rt. 9, where there's a family-owned pizza joint every 3/4 of a mile or so, if that far. I don't for a second understand who orders that crap they try to pass off as Papa John's "pizza".


I was gonna guess transplants from the flyover states, but it says you're in NJ. Surely even hicks could make the NJ=many Italians=good pizza connection?
 
2012-11-10 12:10:16 PM

stratagos: Louis the Unlucky: Here's the quote that started all this. John Schnatter, Chief Executive said:

"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare [law] will cost about 11 to 14 cents per pizza - or 15 or 20 cents per order from a corporate basis. To put that in perspective, our average delivery charge is $1.75 to $2.50 - or about 10-fold our estimated cost of the Obamacare [law] to Papa John's. We're not supportive of Obamacare, like most businesses in our industry. But our business model and unit economics [are] about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare.... We have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts - millions of pizzas per year. To give you an example, Peter, let's say fuel goes up, which it does from time to time, and we have to raise delivery charges. We don't like raising delivery charges. But the price of fuel is out of our control, as is Obamacare. So if Obamacare is, in fact, not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto the consumer in order to protect our shareholders' best interest."

Here's what he said to spark this article:

"That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this." and "the good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance." and "Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them." and "Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics."

The last two are from the original source article, here, which mentions he left the speaking event this article sites to run a telethon for Sandy victims.

So is everyone here getting upset because of these comments or because the writer set you up and you fell for it?

Playing devil's advocate, it's pretty easy to believe people on the right might say something this boneheaded


Not sure I see this as right, left, center, or bonehead. I do see this article and our comments attributing politics to economics. My curiosity is would our comments be the same and as passionate after a presentation of the facts?
 
2012-11-10 12:14:40 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Is there a reason pizza chain CEOs are such colossal douchebags? I understand that most CEOs don't align with the (D)s, but seriously

-Papa John Nutter will cut the hours of his employees rather than raise the cost of a pizza by $0.14 because of OBAMAEVILSOCULISMS
-Tom Monaghan has poured millions into pro-life and anti-gay programs, and is busy building a law "school" devoted to christian dominionism.
-We all got to hear plenty from Herman Cain

Is there something in the cheese?


Mike Illitch of Little Caesar's seems to be a pretty decent guy, and an actual philanthropist. He's been trying to re-build Detroit, and does a lot of things for veterans.

/Although someone will probably will a link proving me completely wrong.
 
2012-11-10 12:20:31 PM

Sgt Otter: Glockenspiel Hero: Is there a reason pizza chain CEOs are such colossal douchebags? I understand that most CEOs don't align with the (D)s, but seriously

-Papa John Nutter will cut the hours of his employees rather than raise the cost of a pizza by $0.14 because of OBAMAEVILSOCULISMS
-Tom Monaghan has poured millions into pro-life and anti-gay programs, and is busy building a law "school" devoted to christian dominionism.
-We all got to hear plenty from Herman Cain

Is there something in the cheese?

Mike Illitch of Little Caesar's seems to be a pretty decent guy, and an actual philanthropist. He's been trying to re-build Detroit, and does a lot of things for veterans.

/Although someone will probably will a link proving me completely wrong.


Highly doubt they will. Ilitch has done more for Detroit and the area than almost anyone of recent years. Lots of charity work as well as good publicity.
 
2012-11-10 12:31:58 PM
There are nine different pizza places that are near or deliver to my apartment. I'll order from the one who can get the pizza here in a reasonable timeframe. Somehow I don't think Papa Johns will survive long.
 
2012-11-10 12:33:26 PM
Obamacare is having all sorts of fantastic unintended consequences. The idea f a world with less Applebees, Papa Johns, and Dominoes is great. Those places all suck rocks anyway.
 
2012-11-10 12:34:44 PM
Hey, all you CEO's throwing tantrums: You're why I voted to re-elect Obama. Because fark you.
 
2012-11-10 12:45:37 PM

FirstNationalBastard: No one is going to biatch about paying a quarter more for their pizza.


Why didn't they raise the price by a quarter before? Increase profits.
 
2012-11-10 12:45:47 PM
His pizza gives me diarrhea, anyway. Always has. I can't boycott something I don't buy in the first place.

:(
 
2012-11-10 12:45:52 PM

jayhawk88: CHARGE A BIT MORE FOR FOOD YOU ASSHOLES! We'll still buy the farking pizza if it's $15 instead of $12.


So much this. If the cost of making sure everyone in the country has health care, I'm pretty sure I can chip in an extra buck or two on my pizza.
 
2012-11-10 12:46:40 PM
I don't get this decision by employers to reduce employee hours below "full-time" to avoid benefits like this. First there's the obvious PR issue, but then you have to figure how to deal with having a smaller workforce for the business. If you can do the same work with employees working fewer hours, why were that many employees hired in the first place? If they wind up hiring more part-time employees to make up the difference, doesn't the overhead involved in more payroll, training, and turnover rate negate any savings from avoiding ObamaCare?

Sounds like a shiatty CEO no matter how you look at it.
 
2012-11-10 12:50:00 PM
Ok, So far there's a lot of stupid shiat these business owners are doing because their horse-riding, magic underwear-wearing, bayonet-and-binders-full-of-women-wielding candidate lost.

Seriously, it's not the end of the world. You already know Obama is a center-right Repub... I mean, Democrat.

Then again, now the American people know the game is up, who they are really dealing with, and they're not gonna take it anymore.
 
2012-11-10 12:54:39 PM
THE LAST PEOPLE YOU WANT TO GIVE HEALTH INSURANCE TO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE YOUR FOOD.
 
2012-11-10 12:56:43 PM
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that no one is buying their shiatty pizza.
 
2012-11-10 01:00:33 PM
They typically sell thier pies for 1/2 price anyhow.


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2012-11-10 01:00:59 PM
When did fark turn into reddit...the pizza snobs in this thread are sickening...

Sometimes you want a 12 dollar pizza shipped right to your front door..
 
2012-11-10 01:05:08 PM
Should have just done it and been quiet about it. Now there is going to be backlash against Papa John's by Liberals, meanwhile teapartiers will elevate Papa John's into the same pantheon of fine dining now reserved only for Chick-fil-A.
 
2012-11-10 01:06:34 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: Schnatter made headlines over the summer when he told shareholders that the cost of a Papa John's pizza will increase by between 11 and 14 cents due to Obamacare.

How the hell does anyone get away with being this kind of pennypinching Ebenezer Scrooge? What business sense does it even make to screw your workers for a price difference NO ONE WILL EVEN NOTICE? Farking hell, just raise the cost of every pizza 25 cents, give your employees healthcare, enjoy the good publicity AND get and extra 11 to 15 cents profit per pizza.

Or Wal-Mart could pay all of their store workers $12/hr and up and it would cost shoppers an extra 40 CENTS per visit. But, hurr, nope, they'd rather have their workers desperate and not give a shiat with turnaround time in the months than have their pick of every minimum wage worker anywhere else clamoring to work there.

There's good business sense and there's being pointlessly miserly.


Just imagine I posted a picture of bears over and over here.
 
2012-11-10 01:07:43 PM
The number of small business owners who show up in these threads to offer advice on how they should cope with increased health care costs is amazing amusing.
 
2012-11-10 01:29:37 PM

log_jammin: including Applebee's which has said it won't hire new workers because of the law.

yeah that makes sense.

"Bob didn't show up for work and we need a fry cook. also tony is sick and out for a week plus our head waitress is 8 months pregnant and will be gone soon. should we hire more workers?"

"NO!!!!"

"but who's going to..."

"I SAID NO! OBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACARE!!!"


These are the stupidest publicity stunts ever.


If this really is a bad idea then they'll pay the consequences and suffer either diminished profits or loss of the entire business. Then their smarter, more enlightened competitors will swoop in and grab their customers. So what's the problem?
 
2012-11-10 01:37:35 PM

jjorsett: If this really is a bad idea then they'll pay the consequences and suffer either diminished profits or loss of the entire business. Then their smarter, more enlightened competitors will swoop in and grab their customers. So what's the problem?


... that people are having their hours slashed in the CEO's pissy-pants little tantrum in the mean time?
 
2012-11-10 01:41:50 PM

Louis the Unlucky: Here's the quote that started all this. John Schnatter, Chief Executive said:

"Our best estimate is that the Obamacare [law] will cost about 11 to 14 cents per pizza - or 15 or 20 cents per order from a corporate basis. To put that in perspective, our average delivery charge is $1.75 to $2.50 - or about 10-fold our estimated cost of the Obamacare [law] to Papa John's. We're not supportive of Obamacare, like most businesses in our industry. But our business model and unit economics [are] about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare.... We have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts - millions of pizzas per year. To give you an example, Peter, let's say fuel goes up, which it does from time to time, and we have to raise delivery charges. We don't like raising delivery charges. But the price of fuel is out of our control, as is Obamacare. So if Obamacare is, in fact, not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs and core strategies to pass that cost onto the consumer in order to protect our shareholders' best interest."

Here's what he said to spark this article:

"That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this." and "the good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance." and "Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them." and "Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics."

The last two are from the original source article, here, which mentions he left the speaking event this article sites to run a telethon for Sandy victims.

So is everyone here getting upset because of these comments or because the writer set you up and you fell for it?


Crickets
 
2012-11-10 01:51:28 PM
FTA : Schnatter went on to say he's neither in support of, nor against the Affordable Care Act, even admitting that "the good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance."

A country where all citizens can take care of their health, or expansion of yet another crappy pizza chain ...

What to do .. what to do ...
 
2012-11-10 01:57:41 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: jjorsett: If this really is a bad idea then they'll pay the consequences and suffer either diminished profits or loss of the entire business. Then their smarter, more enlightened competitors will swoop in and grab their customers. So what's the problem?

... that people are having their hours slashed in the CEO's pissy-pants little tantrum in the mean time?


You mean they suffer the consequences of increased costs to the business owner? I know you think the business should just accept less (or no) profit for the good of society, but the real world does not work that way.

And short of nationalizing all business, it never will.
 
2012-11-10 02:03:19 PM

AbsentFriends: LouDobbsAwaaaay: jjorsett: If this really is a bad idea then they'll pay the consequences and suffer either diminished profits or loss of the entire business. Then their smarter, more enlightened competitors will swoop in and grab their customers. So what's the problem?

... that people are having their hours slashed in the CEO's pissy-pants little tantrum in the mean time?

You mean they suffer the consequences of increased costs to the business owner? I know you think the business should just accept less (or no) profit for the good of society, but the real world does not work that way.

And short of nationalizing all business, it never will.


Or, they could raise the cost of their pizza by a quarter.
 
2012-11-10 02:04:46 PM

AbsentFriends: You mean they suffer the consequences of increased costs to the business owner? I know you think the business should just accept less (or no) profit for the good of society, but the real world does not work that way.


I was asked what the down-side is to a CEO hissy-fit, provided the invisible hand of the free market will correct everything eventually. What they suffer is the consequences of a CEO having a hissy-fit and taking his aggression out on his subordinates. "Throw down Obamacare or else I'm raising pizza prices!" Obamacare remains. "Fark it, you're all fired! And I'm raising prices anyway! ARRRRRGGHGH!!!!1!"

The free market may eventually straighten out this nonsense, but in the mean time lots of people are being hurt because a guy who lives in a mansion on a compound the size of a small European country can't stand the idea of his employees having healthcare. There's nothing wrong with recognizing how farked up that is.
 
2012-11-10 02:06:22 PM
Obamacare is just the latest reason. Before Obamacare it was, We can't give you full time because of "blank". This just backed up the hours to 30 rather than 40. Ok, they re-adjust to less than 30. Nothing has changed for companies. Just means the workers have to have three part time jobs instead of two.
 
2012-11-10 02:10:32 PM
So, is this the new marketing strategy for GOP-owned businesses? Say something stupid in the media that may cause a boycott, shout "VICTIM!", profit?
 
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