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(Huffington Post)   Papa John's to cut employee hours due to Obamacare. No word on if they also plan to cut the number of free pizzas Peyton Manning is forcing them to give away   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 227
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2012-11-10 07:42:14 AM  
including Applebee's which has said it won't hire new workers because of the law.

yeah that makes sense.

"Bob didn't show up for work and we need a fry cook. also tony is sick and out for a week plus our head waitress is 8 months pregnant and will be gone soon. should we hire more workers?"

"NO!!!!"

"but who's going to..."

"I SAID NO! OBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACARE!!!"


These are the stupidest publicity stunts ever.
 
2012-11-10 07:49:00 AM  

log_jammin: including Applebee's which has said it won't hire new workers because of the law.

yeah that makes sense.

"Bob didn't show up for work and we need a fry cook. also tony is sick and out for a week plus our head waitress is 8 months pregnant and will be gone soon. should we hire more workers?"

"NO!!!!"

"but who's going to..."

"I SAID NO! OBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACARE!!!"


These are the stupidest publicity stunts ever.


Maybe they can convince Obama to refuse inauguration if they keep this up!

Or, if nothing else, he can be less black!
 
2012-11-10 07:50:34 AM  
Corporate poutrage with shiatty cheese and garlicly motor oil.

Delicious!
 
2012-11-10 08:08:26 AM  
Why do I get the idea these companies wanted an excuse to cut back without PR repercussions, and then along came Obamacare.
 
2012-11-10 08:08:40 AM  
Here's your official pizza of the NFL.
 
2012-11-10 08:10:54 AM  
Better ingredients, better derp
 
2012-11-10 08:12:05 AM  
New Papa John's special just announced. All deliveries to basement doors are half off, and come with free miniature merkin flags.
 
2012-11-10 08:12:13 AM  
Papa Johns: because you're drunk, and greasy cardboard is a better use of your money than a real pizza, because it all tastes the same coming back up.
 
2012-11-10 08:25:00 AM  
He's going to cut those people over 14 cents a pizza?

And the GOP wonders why they aren't making up ground.
 
2012-11-10 08:27:43 AM  
He probably could just save money by not advertising here in the Northeast anymore, where even the smallest town has one or two pizzerias a million times better than his shops. Oh wait, that wouldn't combine the relief of a hissyfit with the joy of kicking poor people in the balls, now would it?
 
2012-11-10 08:50:09 AM  
Their pizza sucks and the owner is a world class douchebag. So pretty much nothing new here
 
2012-11-10 08:53:43 AM  
once again, i ask: if you're a retail business, why the f*ck would you risk alienating HALF of your customers by making political statements?

i don't like boycotts, but i will not eat a papa john's pizza now (not that i did before, but still...), i won't eat at applebees, and i won't eat at chick-fil-a. had they just kept their damned mouths shut, i would't care, normally. but they made me care. and a whole lot of other pissed-off people, i'm guessing.
 
2012-11-10 08:57:25 AM  
We've stopped buying their pizza after Papa John held a fundraiser for Romney.

John is a billionaire. It's much better that he squeeze every penny of profit than to offer health care to his employeesm.
 
2012-11-10 09:06:45 AM  
I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.
 
2012-11-10 09:10:14 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.


Not all of us are so blessed as to have Little Caesar's in our hometowns.
 
2012-11-10 09:13:19 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.


I'm pretty sure they're people who have never even met an Italian.
 
2012-11-10 09:13:45 AM  
Waaaaaah how dare you make me treat my employees like human beings
 
2012-11-10 09:14:35 AM  

kronicfeld: Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.

Not all of us are so blessed as to have Little Caesar's in our hometowns.


But it's square, man. SQUARE.
 
2012-11-10 09:22:30 AM  
Adapt or die.

These companies can go ahead and shoot themselves in both feet and fall into a bear trap. Other companies will step in to take their place.
 
2012-11-10 09:23:04 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.

I'm pretty sure they're people who have never even met an Italian.


Every now and then, you have a hankering for crap. So, you eat Dominos or Pizza Hut.

But, yeah, a local Pizzeria with fresh ingredients is always better than the big chain crap.
 
2012-11-10 09:40:41 AM  

Ed Finnerty: Corporate poutrage with shiatty cheese and garlicly motor oil.

Delicious!


"Poutrage" is my new favorite word.
 
2012-11-10 09:41:06 AM  

Pocket Ninja: kronicfeld: Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.

Not all of us are so blessed as to have Little Caesar's in our hometowns.

But it's square, man. SQUARE.


that is because it is the harmonious 4 sided pizza square
 
2012-11-10 09:43:52 AM  

FlashHarry: once again, i ask: if you're a retail business, why the f*ck would you risk alienating HALF of your customers by making political statements?

i don't like boycotts, but i will not eat a papa john's pizza now (not that i did before, but still...), i won't eat at applebees, and i won't eat at chick-fil-a. had they just kept their damned mouths shut, i would't care, normally. but they made me care. and a whole lot of other pissed-off people, i'm guessing.


Yep, this. I'm one of the libbier-libtardos here on Fark, but if I ever owned a retail or service-based business, you bet I'd keep my political feelings a secret. No reason to proclaim your love for either side and alienate half your customers. It's remarkably bad business.

Granted, sometimes business owners are put on the spot, like when the GM and Chrysler CEOs had to call out Romney for lying about their movement of manufacturing operations to China, but they didn't seek to voice their views---they were forced to defend themselves by Romney's mendacity.
 
2012-11-10 09:44:19 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I basically think of people who voluntarily eat Papa John's, Pizza Hut, or Domino's pizza as aliens, anyway.


Eh, they're not bad. I've had a lot worse. Though I suppose it really depends on your local restaurant; the pizza from my local Papa John's is OK, but the one by my uncle's place is a farking greasepit.
 
2012-11-10 09:44:21 AM  
I had to do the pizza delivery route to pay my way through school Pizza Hut/Papa Johns/Dominos pending where I lived. PJ was notorious in our state for finding a reason to fire any manager after they received a certain amount of raises (i.e. just wait for a 6 week sales dip that happens at particular times during a year). Then, you'd wait to hear about how they were rehiring him/her at the closest store as a worker. Within 6 months, you'd hear about how he/she was the manager of that store but at the lowest level of pay. It was the cycle of employment there.
 
2012-11-10 09:45:35 AM  

ToxicMunkee: Adapt or die.

These companies can go ahead and shoot themselves in both feet and fall into a bear trap. Other companies will step in to take their place.


That's Obama's cunning strategy: patriotic conservative companies will protest his War on Capitalism and go out of business, while communist socialistic companies will thrive by serving the unfilled market. There has never been a bigger threat to free enterprise.
 
2012-11-10 09:49:40 AM  

ToxicMunkee: Adapt or die.

These companies can go ahead and shoot themselves in both feet and fall into a bear trap. Other companies will step in to take their place.


That. If Papa John's wants to start being a dickbag, I'm sure Domino's and Pizza Hut will appreciate the extra market share.
 
2012-11-10 09:51:53 AM  
I pay my regular $10 for a large pizza pie from a local pizzeria that's been in the neighborhood for decades and I'm content with the taste.

What I don't understand is a few years back when there was this supposed milk shortage a lot of pizzerias in my area raised the prices of their pizza, so with that said why doesn't Papa Johns simply raise the price of their pizza to offset the supposed high costs of Obamacare?
 
2012-11-10 09:54:01 AM  

Bontesla: We've stopped buying their pizza after Papa John held a fundraiser for Romney.

John is a billionaire. It's much better that he squeeze every penny of profit than to offer health care to his employeesm.


So you make millions being a pizza shop owner, you came up from being nothing but a pizza shop owner, but now that you're wealthy you plan to eff your employees in the ass rather than adapt to some new HR rules. You can't possibly pass the 14 cents on to the consumer, oh no. You'd rather pout and whine about Obama.

What an asshat. Cripes.

Screw you, fake 'papa' john. Here, I'll pay your 14 cents on this pizza myself.

No I won't, your pizza is terrible.
 
2012-11-10 09:54:58 AM  

LegacyDL: I pay my regular $10 for a large pizza pie from a local pizzeria that's been in the neighborhood for decades and I'm content with the taste.

What I don't understand is a few years back when there was this supposed milk shortage a lot of pizzerias in my area raised the prices of their pizza, so with that said why doesn't Papa Johns simply raise the price of their pizza to offset the supposed high costs of Obamacare?


So their owner can whine like the republican dick that he is.
 
2012-11-10 09:55:16 AM  
Stupid Papa John's...

I once ordered a pizza from them and it never arrived. I called them to investigate, ended up speaking with whomever oversaw that location, and was challenged to a fight. Over the phone. The challenge, not the fighting. Silly.

No, I didn't go. Did offer him an opportunity to deliver. Failed that too.

/pizza is wack anyway
 
2012-11-10 09:59:46 AM  
Man, the blowback on Papa John's Facebook page is rather incredible.

I can only hope douchenozzles like this pay the price for their stupidity.
 
2012-11-10 10:01:36 AM  
So much for the Job Creators. "We're being pissy cause we can"

Farking two year olds.
 
2012-11-10 10:01:37 AM  

LegacyDL: What I don't understand is a few years back when there was this supposed milk shortage a lot of pizzerias in my area raised the prices of their pizza, so with that said why doesn't Papa Johns simply raise the price of their pizza to offset the supposed high costs of Obamacare?


Ding ding ding we have a winner!

The cost of doing business is always going up for a myriad of reasons, and you typically pass it on while retaining the employees necessary to run your business. One wonders why he hasn't already cut hours if those hours are unnecessary to begin with. No, this guy has chosen Obamacare as his personal whining platform, and is punishing his minimum wage employees so he can make a political statement.

Truly, it is a rare man more douchebaggy than he. Seriously, fark this guy with a rake.
 
2012-11-10 10:01:44 AM  
The closest delivery pizza place to our house is a Papa Johns, but the boyfriend and I won't eat there. Not because of this specifically, but because it's not very good. I'm from Chicago, he's from Manhattan - pizza is kind of our thing. There's a great little hole in the wall Italian place about 5 miles from where we live that makes a kick-ass pizza. It's more expensive than a Papa Johns pie, and further out of our way to get it, but I'd rather support a local business than give this douche any of our money.

Papa Johns is dildos. Tell a friend.
 
2012-11-10 10:02:39 AM  
So, this guy could have given all of his employees affordable health care at the low cost of $0.12 per pizza and didn't?

What a dick.
 
2012-11-10 10:03:21 AM  
What ticks me off is I stopped eating at all of these places years ago because of the terrible food. So now I cant;t even have the satisfaction of boycotting them!
As someone in a previous thread said, I like my food handlers to be healthy!
 
2012-11-10 10:04:41 AM  

edmo: He's going to cut those people over 14 cents a pizza?

And the GOP wonders why they aren't making up ground.


It would cost 1% of his gross income to give his workers insurance! Can't you see? He'd have to sell his Camaro!
 
2012-11-10 10:05:35 AM  
Schnatter made headlines over the summer when he told shareholders that the cost of a Papa John's pizza will increase by between 11 and 14 cents due to Obamacare.

How the hell does anyone get away with being this kind of pennypinching Ebenezer Scrooge? What business sense does it even make to screw your workers for a price difference NO ONE WILL EVEN NOTICE? Farking hell, just raise the cost of every pizza 25 cents, give your employees healthcare, enjoy the good publicity AND get and extra 11 to 15 cents profit per pizza.

Or Wal-Mart could pay all of their store workers $12/hr and up and it would cost shoppers an extra 40 CENTS per visit. But, hurr, nope, they'd rather have their workers desperate and not give a shiat with turnaround time in the months than have their pick of every minimum wage worker anywhere else clamoring to work there.

There's good business sense and there's being pointlessly miserly.
 
2012-11-10 10:07:54 AM  
This just showed up on my FB feed, and it really fits:
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2012-11-10 10:12:21 AM  
Guess I'll have to start boycotting their shiatty pizza. Oh right, I haven't ordered Papa John's since I was a college student. There's a great pizza place in Vinton, VA I order pizza from.
/fark you and your mansion Papa John
 
2012-11-10 10:19:35 AM  

ToxicMunkee: Adapt or die.

These companies can go ahead and shoot themselves in both feet and fall into a bear trap. Other companies will step in to take their place.

 
2012-11-10 10:19:57 AM  

LegacyDL: I pay my regular $10 for a large pizza pie from a local pizzeria that's been in the neighborhood for decades and I'm content with the taste.

What I don't understand is a few years back when there was this supposed milk shortage a lot of pizzerias in my area raised the prices of their pizza, so with that said why doesn't Papa Johns simply raise the price of their pizza to offset the supposed high costs of Obamacare?


I pay $8.99 for large one topping pie from my local pizza place. It's a small place run by Pakistanis, they make damn good shiat.
 
2012-11-10 10:36:23 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: This just showed up on my FB feed, and it really fits:
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What's the drawbridge for? Any group of people laying siege to that place could simply walk around the pond...
 
2012-11-10 10:40:47 AM  
Go ahead and boycott Papa Johns. I'm sure their margins are just as thin as Dominos or the other chains, and depend on the competent few that put in full hours + overtime to make up for the show-up-to-work-if-they-feel-like-it members of the team. And when you have to order for three dozen people, I'm sure everyone will be willing to pay top dollar for your personal favorite Cygnoid Family Bros. pizza.

This guy's sin was having the gall to explain economic cause and effect and he's being crucified because he wants to stay in the black rather than taking a loss until Obama's magical pixie dust cures the nation.

I'm dreading the jobs reports in early 2013 - wait for the Sequestration shoe to drop next. The Democrats own the economy now - the It's Bush's Fault card has officially expired - and the really sad part is the damage can't be limited to be people who voted for it.
 
2012-11-10 10:43:47 AM  
CHARGE A BIT MORE FOR FOOD YOU ASSHOLES! We'll still buy the farking pizza if it's $15 instead of $12.
 
2012-11-10 10:44:22 AM  
Because .14 cents per pizza is such an insurmountable cost. If you fail to scale your business with that small change (hah!) you would have failed years ago. Fluctuating cost is everywhere; I've had vendors who have doubled the charge for what I need, and still stayed in business.

No, sorry, Prussian_Roulette, this is political, and he's doing it to double-down. If his business is so sensitive to such a small alteration, he would have been gone and bust years ago.

/Keep farking that chicken.
 
2012-11-10 10:44:23 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: log_jammin: including Applebee's which has said it won't hire new workers because of the law.

yeah that makes sense.

"Bob didn't show up for work and we need a fry cook. also tony is sick and out for a week plus our head waitress is 8 months pregnant and will be gone soon. should we hire more workers?"

"NO!!!!"

"but who's going to..."

"I SAID NO! OBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACAREOBAMACARE!!!"


These are the stupidest publicity stunts ever.

Maybe they can convince Obama to refuse inauguration if they keep this up!

Or, if nothing else, he can be less black!


He is half white. But I guess if he used white shoe polish, that would be racist, eh?
 
2012-11-10 10:46:51 AM  
Now that I know which places not to support, I'd like to see a list of local pizza joints, neighborhood bars, and family style restaurants that will be willingly supporting Obamacare for the good of their employees, just so I know which deserve my support.
 
2012-11-10 10:47:00 AM  
Really so business costs go up, and someone has to do lay offs, gee big surprise there, what's asinine is that there are people who really thought companies wouldn't lay people off. This is just round one, and the administration asked a few companies to hold off until after the election, so just wait till those start coming .
 
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