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(io9)   The bad news: You have a peanut allergy. The good news: ...because your parents are wealthy   (io9.com) divider line 107
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2012-11-09 08:41:54 PM
ah, nuts
 
2012-11-09 08:42:02 PM
Awh, nuts.
 
2012-11-09 08:43:34 PM
The two other pinheads in my department are both allergic to peanuts and had fairly upper middle class backgrounds. I'm allergic to nothing and grew up pretty poor. Anecdotal that.

I eat peanuts at my desk when I want to be left alone to get work done.
 
2012-11-09 08:46:16 PM
I know black people with peanut allergies......SO.........
 
2012-11-09 08:46:35 PM
Not true...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-09 08:49:31 PM
CSB:

I dated a German girl a couple years back who was in the states working as an au pair. Through some serious networking prowess (and a bit of luck), she managed to work for a handful of very wealthy families off and on over the course of about a year and a half (yes, I realize that it's mostly rich folks who can afford an au pair, but bear with me). She began to notice that the wealthier families tended to be more hygiene-obsessed (one woman in Chicago requiring her kids to wash/sanitize their hands upwards of 7-8 times a day), and that their kids had more allergies, to a wider array of ordinarily innocuous things.

This is just an anecdote; feel free to draw your own conclusions.
 
2012-11-09 08:51:41 PM
Rich people problems
 
2012-11-09 08:52:08 PM
We're lower middle class and our youngest had it....terrible outbreak after a PB&J. He's also in the 20% that outgrew it.

/We're normalcy busters.
 
2012-11-09 08:52:24 PM
 
2012-11-09 08:53:10 PM
my wife was dirt poor and is allergic to peanuts. Oh wait, shes black
 
2012-11-09 08:54:11 PM
"Interestingly, the development of the allergy in people older than nine isn't linked to wealth at all."

Wonder why. Did the excessive hygiene stuff begin less than ten years ago?
 
2012-11-09 08:56:29 PM

BarkingUnicorn: "Interestingly, the development of the allergy in people older than nine isn't linked to wealth at all."

Wonder why. Did the excessive hygiene stuff begin less than ten years ago?


I'd say it was more like 15 years ago, but it would have taken some time for things to really hit full swing.
 
2012-11-09 08:56:37 PM
I love this research.
 
2012-11-09 08:56:46 PM

Heamer: This is just an anecdote; feel free to draw your own conclusions.


I almost never get sick. Not allergic to anything that I know of. There are numerous photos of me when I learned to walk crawling around in the mud out back. Crawling over the dogs. Eating dog food out of the dog dish with them.
 
2012-11-09 08:56:47 PM
Yes! Someone finally believes me. I used to teach English as a Second language in the elementary grades and in high-poverty schools, no one worried about peanuts because regardless of ethnicity, poor kids were simply not allergic to peanut products. Never, ever. The vast majority of my students were from Mexico or Central America, but there was no obvious genetic factor in play - poor black and white kids were not allergic either. It's unlikely it would have been missed considering the severity of the allergies apparently present in children of more affluent families.
 
2012-11-09 08:58:09 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-09 08:59:52 PM
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-09 09:01:58 PM
Bullshiat!

/from personal experience.
 
2012-11-09 09:03:44 PM
I've had an allergy to peanuts since I was 16 years old (44 years ago). My parents were never even remotely wealthy.
 
2012-11-09 09:04:29 PM

Heamer: CSB:

I dated a German girl a couple years back who was in the states working as an au pair. Through some serious networking prowess (and a bit of luck), she managed to work for a handful of very wealthy families off and on over the course of about a year and a half (yes, I realize that it's mostly rich folks who can afford an au pair, but bear with me). She began to notice that the wealthier families tended to be more hygiene-obsessed (one woman in Chicago requiring her kids to wash/sanitize their hands upwards of 7-8 times a day), and that their kids had more allergies, to a wider array of ordinarily innocuous things.

This is just an anecdote; feel free to draw your own conclusions.


Not surprised at all. Lack of exposure to whatever crap around is a major factor in developing allergies. Allergies are caused by an overactive and stupid immune system- if your immune system develops properly, they're generally rare. Hyper sanitize your house, and you're encouraging it. And the hypersanitized crap does seem to appeal to the upper middle class more than anyone else.

As a kid, I licked the cat, ate food off counters, played in dirt, climbed trees, scraped my knee, ate peanut butter with my fingers straight out of the jar, and did everything kids used to do until not all that long ago. My dad, a pediatrician, encouraged all this. Guess what? I grew up with a bulletproof immune system. I have no allergies, not even to poison ivy (I think I just got lucky on that one though). In a stunning revelation, it seems that immune systems that have evolved to deal with dirt, feces, rotting food, and all manner of other shiat work, and do best when they have enough exposure that they recognize exactly what they're supposed to fight against.
 
2012-11-09 09:04:36 PM
Well that wealth comes in handy when it comes time to sue a school district to make it a peanut free zone. Ya know, rather than send your snowflake to a private peanut free zone.
 
2012-11-09 09:06:18 PM

spentmiles: [i45.tinypic.com image 402x402]


Too close.

Get your robot out of my head peacefully, plz.

Thank you.

P.S. I'll take my world with me. I live on earth. Earth isn't about money...
 
2012-11-09 09:07:50 PM
I'm deathly allergic to cats and mildly allergic to dogs and I had both as a child. Exposure did not work for my pathetic immune system.
 
2012-11-09 09:12:32 PM

the_colors: I'm deathly allergic to cats and mildly allergic to dogs and I had both as a child. Exposure did not work for my pathetic immune system.


I love all critters and get along with them quite nicely, actually: see Grizzly Adams for reference...
 
2012-11-09 09:15:56 PM

cptjeff: As a kid, I licked the cat, ate food off counters, played in dirt, climbed trees, scraped my knee, ate peanut butter with my fingers straight out of the jar, and did everything kids used to do until not all that long ago. My dad, a pediatrician, encouraged all this. Guess what? I grew up with a bulletproof immune system. I have no allergies, not even to poison ivy (I think I just got lucky on that one though).


I was the same way as a child and only had an allergy to sulfa drugs. Had my tonsils taken out as a 4 year old and have barely been sick since (28 years ago). I've had the flu once and it was gone in 24 hours. Strangely, I did get pneumonia once in undergrad but had it for three weeks before I was diagnosed and my only symptom was an occasional cough.

But out of nowhere, boom - when I was 21 I developed mild asthma and allergies to cats and pretty much every pollen. The immune system is really weird.
 
2012-11-09 09:16:46 PM

hbk72777: I know black people with peanut allergies......SO.........


Don't know if I smell troll or stupidity...
 
2012-11-09 09:18:00 PM
Poor people can't afford to see a doctor/diagnose allergies/stop fixing PB&J even if Junior wheezes every time he eats it. Also, their natural habitat is 100% more likely to include immune-building excrements.
 
2012-11-09 09:21:41 PM
Maybe poor kids who are allergic to peanuts are more likely to die and not have their deaths investigated.
 
2012-11-09 09:22:03 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: cptjeff: As a kid, I licked the cat, ate food off counters, played in dirt, climbed trees, scraped my knee, ate peanut butter with my fingers straight out of the jar, and did everything kids used to do until not all that long ago. My dad, a pediatrician, encouraged all this. Guess what? I grew up with a bulletproof immune system. I have no allergies, not even to poison ivy (I think I just got lucky on that one though).

I was the same way as a child and only had an allergy to sulfa drugs. Had my tonsils taken out as a 4 year old and have barely been sick since (28 years ago). I've had the flu once and it was gone in 24 hours. Strangely, I did get pneumonia once in undergrad but had it for three weeks before I was diagnosed and my only symptom was an occasional cough.

But out of nowhere, boom - when I was 21 I developed mild asthma and allergies to cats and pretty much every pollen. The immune system is really weird.


Hmm... I'm 23. Maybe I need to eat some dirt again to stave that one off.

\Don't think I'll lick the current family cat when I'm home for thanksgiving.
\\Dog would probably be fine with it though.
 
2012-11-09 09:22:50 PM

JasonOfOrillia: Maybe poor kids who are allergic to peanuts are more likely to die and not have their deaths investigated.


Well, Darwin.
 
2012-11-09 09:22:59 PM
No, I'd say that GENUINE allergies--i.e. those which cause anaphylactic reactions--probably cut across the spectrum of rich, poor, black, white, up, down, etc.

What wealthy people have is the time and energy to run to the doctor every time Johnny or Susie sneezes, plus the wherewithal to find a doctor who will agree with them that it HAS to be the peanut butter. Poorer people either disregard the occasional sneeze, or else stop giving the kids peanut butter if it seems to be a real but minor problem.

I could be wrong, of course.
 
2012-11-09 09:27:37 PM
will such allergies grow to be status symbols?
 
2012-11-09 09:33:08 PM
I am allergic to cold and I grew up in a trailer park in Maine... 
Kicked in when I was 10. Is this natures way of telling me to go somewhere warmer or was I evolving to survive global warming?
 
2012-11-09 09:34:08 PM
Makes sense that it'd be correlated. Mainly because higher income also tends to mean older parents, which aligns with some other genetic issues as well (autism, trisomy 21, etc).

Doubtful that one causes the other, but it's consistent with other similar correlations, basically.
 
2012-11-09 09:35:47 PM
What a bullshiat article
 
2012-11-09 09:35:53 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Rich people problems


Laws of Natural Selection don't like the filthy rich.

Way to go Karma!
 
2012-11-09 09:35:55 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Puttin' on the Ritz.
 
2012-11-09 09:37:13 PM
Still no cure for cancer
 
2012-11-09 09:38:02 PM

SuddenlySamhain: will such allergies grow to be status symbols?


Oh, but they ARE. I've seen instances where, in my totally unscientific opinion, the various dietary and lifestyle restrictions forced on a child by their parents border on a competitive sport, if not outright Munchausen's by Proxy.
 
2012-11-09 09:41:10 PM

The Smails Kid: Still no cure for cancer


Which is a good thing, because 3 years after we cure it, life is going to suck for Will Smith.
 
2012-11-09 09:41:44 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Rich people problems


I was gonna say the same thing.


TofuTheAlmighty: cptjeff: As a kid, I licked the cat, ate food off counters, played in dirt, climbed trees, scraped my knee, ate peanut butter with my fingers straight out of the jar, and did everything kids used to do until not all that long ago. My dad, a pediatrician, encouraged all this. Guess what? I grew up with a bulletproof immune system. I have no allergies, not even to poison ivy (I think I just got lucky on that one though).

I was the same way as a child and only had an allergy to sulfa drugs. Had my tonsils taken out as a 4 year old and have barely been sick since (28 years ago). I've had the flu once and it was gone in 24 hours. Strangely, I did get pneumonia once in undergrad but had it for three weeks before I was diagnosed and my only symptom was an occasional cough.

But out of nowhere, boom - when I was 21 I developed mild asthma and allergies to cats and pretty much every pollen. The immune system is really weird.


I've never had any allergies but for some reason about 10 years ago I went through a phase. For about six months I kept getting hives on my stomach and wrists (it looked like a really angry spider had crawled across me in my sleep). I tried changing EVERYTHING. Diet, detergents, shampoo, etc. Everything. Then one day it *poof* it just went away.


I guess this means the revolution will be trading molotov cocktails for jars of peanut butter to hurl at the ruling class.

Lulz.
 
2012-11-09 09:44:40 PM

hbk72777: I know black people with peanut allergies......SO.........


You DNRTFA

"The research of 776 patients with peanut allergies, also showed that this allergy is generally found more in males and ethnic minorities..."
 
2012-11-09 09:47:06 PM

darkscout: Heamer: This is just an anecdote; feel free to draw your own conclusions.

I almost never get sick. Not allergic to anything that I know of. There are numerous photos of me when I learned to walk crawling around in the mud out back. Crawling over the dogs. Eating dog food out of the dog dish with them.


darkscout will live forever.
 
2012-11-09 09:47:13 PM

cptjeff: As a kid, I licked the cat, ate food off counters, played in dirt, climbed trees, scraped my knee, ate peanut butter with my fingers straight out of the jar, and did everything kids used to do until not all that long ago. My dad, a pediatrician, encouraged all this. Guess what? I grew up with a bulletproof immune system. I have no allergies, not even to poison ivy (I think I just got lucky on that one though). In a stunning revelation, it seems that immune systems that have evolved to deal with dirt, feces, rotting food, and all manner of other shiat work, and do best when they have enough exposure that they recognize exactly what they're supposed to fight against.


I once ate a spider. I don't remember why, just that I was caught, didn't spit it out, and got in huge trouble.
On the flip side, I never get sick. There have been times when my entire office is down with the flu, and I get mildly under the weather. I can always tell when I "should" get sick because I get cold sores. My immune system keeps those under control until it has bigger fish to fry.
 
2012-11-09 09:47:15 PM
Its time has come

content.dnalc.org
 
2012-11-09 09:50:19 PM

mayIFark: Bullshiat!

/from personal experience.


Perhaps, but we're discussing peanut allergies in this thread. Your own allergy to bovine offal is just offal, but is off topic.
 
2012-11-09 09:52:58 PM

Heamer: CSB:

I dated a German girl a couple years back who was in the states working as an au pair. Through some serious networking prowess (and a bit of luck), she managed to work for a handful of very wealthy families off and on over the course of about a year and a half (yes, I realize that it's mostly rich folks who can afford an au pair, but bear with me). She began to notice that the wealthier families tended to be more hygiene-obsessed (one woman in Chicago requiring her kids to wash/sanitize their hands upwards of 7-8 times a day), and that their kids had more allergies, to a wider array of ordinarily innocuous things.

This is just an anecdote; feel free to draw your own conclusions.


Heamer is on fark, but he says he used to date a real girl. Man, how come he has all the fun?
 
2012-11-09 09:58:58 PM
old saying: You eat a pound of dirt before you die. -- typically was remarked to someone who balked because their burger hit the ground and Dad didn't condone anyone being a sissy mary.

Febreze - please people don't buy this crap and spray it in the house where you and your family breathe it into your lungs. one more company after your $$$ that doesn't give a damn what damage their product may do to you.

/allergic to corporate greed
 
2012-11-09 09:59:19 PM
Ah, the thread I've been waiting for. My immediate supervisor is known as "peanut lady" behind her back due to the fact that when she started with the company claimed that she had a life threatening peanut allergy even airborne particles would kill her or so the story goes. Email upon email went out from my nambypamby HR dept explaining to employees what they were now forbidden to bring into the office, including Thai food, candy bars, trail mix, etc and that it was our responsibility to read labels on what we were eating for lunch in order to avoid killing her. In addition, we have signs posted throughout our office with a stupid cartoon peanut with a line drawn through him saying, "This is a peanut free zone. For the sake of coworkers with life threatening peanut allergies, please do not bring peanuts or nut products into this area". Wish I was kidding, but I'm not. And allegedly, this woman's peanut allergy is so severe that if a person opens a product containing peanuts even several yards or cubes away, she will go into anaphyaltic shock. I used to have a photo of the hated sign on my phone but it looks like I deleted it somehow. And no, not kidding deadly serious. I guess if I ever want to get fired, all I have to do is bring in a package of Nutter Butters and eat them at my desk. I could go on, but I'm sure I've made my point.

/the candy man who sells trail mix, etc now is restricted to selling it in the other building only and employees are required to take the offending products to their cars.
//my suite has over 100 people and because of one whiney and obviously rich biatch (all her clothing is dry clean only, a woman can tell these things) peanuts are verboten. Oh, and we're not allowed Chik Fil A either because they fry all of their food in peanut oil. And they took all the good candy out of the vending machines, yeah I sound fat
 
2012-11-09 10:03:46 PM
There is also a link between the number of toilets in the house and kids with colon and intestinal problems. It seems that kids who have their own toilets are not exposed to the germs left by other folks and as a result do not develop the natural immunities acquired in families where everybody shares one or two potties.

Sorry for the mental image but SCIENCE!
 
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