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2012-11-09 08:01:26 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: Indubitably: Indubitably: Cpl.D: I think the bigger thing will be the mass production of hemp. Look for a flood of hemp products in Walmart next year.

So what.

Replacing some petroleum is good news, humans.

Grows in the desert even.

Perfect crop, really.

But it subjects petroleum to a sudden substandard of preference.

This is okay.

We should draw on every resource-building, power generating force we have at our disposal, friends.

Wind, solar, biomass, and, yes fracking done pristine, perhaps: prove it, fire-faucet.

Steer away from petroleum, but keep it up.

There will always be a population of people willing to pay any price to run their muscle car.

I'm still waiting for my metallic-purple turbo Camaro, btw.

Let's call it Eggplant.

P.S. My free one, that is. You know where to find me, apparently.


P.P.S. Word.
 
2012-11-09 08:01:50 PM  
(not for mere pot brownies, mind you, but "infused edibles.")

WTF does that even mean? You're either cooking/baking with canna-oil/canna-butter or you're not. What's this 'infused' BS?

/and don't knock the pot brownies
//or the cookies
 
2012-11-09 08:01:53 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Klom Dark: Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.

fark that shiat, there's a lot of companies out there that don't test for weed. While weed make stupid people stupider, smart, cerebral engineer/designer types use it to enhance their thought process. Companies will start losing their best talent if they don't wake the fark up.

Yeah, once you get to q certain level of job, they just don't care about mandatory drug testing or they only do it as part if the hiring process. My last company tested me just once in 7 years of being there, and my new company is based out of the Amsterdam, so if they did test us it would be to ensure that we meet the required minimum of pot usage to be an employee.


I typically expect my new hires to come in clean, not out of any aversion to weed but more as just of "If you want the job, at least walk through the door clean." That and I'm not about to go out on the limb for some guy I barely no in terms of dealing with the company drug policy. Plus we only do a piss test on new hires normally and if you can't manage to pass that, you have self discpline issues. In theory my current company tests at any time, but the one time it did I heard a rumor in advance about it. One employee of mine looked rather nervous so I sent him over to Korea on some semi bullshiat trip for a week and encouraged to burn vacation days as needed to hang out there for longer if needed. The drug test coordinator got biatchy, but the dude was already in the air and I told my boss how this was such a critical trip and the we'd just piss test when he got back.

/plus if they catch you, the first time is only some trip to some HR drone to talk about addiction issues
//I plan on getting a medical card when I retire and enjoying some recreation
/as it stands right now I do a lot of travel to countries with insane anti drug laws and want even the hair test to come back clean in case shiat gets weird
 
2012-11-09 08:02:10 PM  

Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.


It's irrelevant - If you work somewhere where you're employer says "You can't use drugs that we test for, and work here", then you're SOL no matter where you were getting all potted up
 
2012-11-09 08:02:20 PM  

DORMAMU: moops: It's gonna be hard for "tourists" to "buy" when the federal government won't allow sales to take place.

Feds would have to do the busting & prosecute in fed court. Doable, but they been relying on states and locals for most of it


I somehow think they won't simply accept the burden without some kind of backlash. That or them turning a blind eye.
Colorado may want this, but there's other interests that probably fear a successful example will flip surrounding states.

Look for a string of batfe screw ups or other nefariousness to put a bad spin on any good statistics from legalization.

/also keep an eye on the media.
/every criminal that makes the news will be a pothead.
 
2012-11-09 08:05:13 PM  

Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.


I recall a librarian from Oregon won her case against drug testing. I believe it centered around the fact that a librarian is not a dangerous job (no driving etc).
 
2012-11-09 08:05:35 PM  
Dang, I live at 9200ft. But when I get high, it can be well over 13k feet.
 
2012-11-09 08:06:08 PM  
Yep. Already planning a trip out to one or both states within the next year (hopefully), specifically to try my luck with the Devil's Weed. If I come back and I'm no longer normal, at least you'll know why. At least you'll know why.
 
2012-11-09 08:06:19 PM  

phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.
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/just say no


Christian? I thought the Federal Government was run by a Muslim.

Kind of funny how stoners cannot get the most liberal adminsitration in recnet history to go along withe legalization. If anything ther DOJ is going to kick more draconian:

Napolitano floated for attorney general
 
2012-11-09 08:06:27 PM  

Ninjazx: You should share your ability to identify anyone who smokes weed with the local law enforcement. It would save thousands of tax dollars


Oh take your self righteous "came down from the mountain to expose you" attitude and choke on it.
The people I mentioned OPENLY ADMIT IT. They know I don't care, (and oh, ya. I in no way can smell it while being trapped in a small radio studio no bigger than an airplane bathroom.) as long as their work gets done and I don't have to fill in, which I have to farking do every week.
We've gone through 3 more employees in the last 2 months. One decided to roll a joint while his farking mic was on. Probably shouldn't tell the World how you can't get those pesky stems from poking through the paper.
Another went out for his break, came back reeking of it and fell asleep on the farking board.
The last guy just couldn't get the hang of how to use the buttons while openly admitting to me how he can usually think better after a wake and bake.
So fark you if you think I'm judging people when the evidence of MY life was seen, not judged with, dick.
 
2012-11-09 08:07:19 PM  

way south: DORMAMU: moops: It's gonna be hard for "tourists" to "buy" when the federal government won't allow sales to take place.

Feds would have to do the busting & prosecute in fed court. Doable, but they been relying on states and locals for most of it

I somehow think they won't simply accept the burden without some kind of backlash. That or them turning a blind eye.
Colorado may want this, but there's other interests that probably fear a successful example will flip surrounding states.

Look for a string of batfe screw ups or other nefariousness to put a bad spin on any good statistics from legalization.

/also keep an eye on the media.
/every criminal that makes the news will be a pothead.


Good point. We just had an officer die of friendly fire this morning in Lakewood. Guessing "weed" will be found in the suspects house. The media is already talking about how the suspects had "2-3" PITBULLS in the apartment.
 
2012-11-09 08:07:29 PM  

codergirl42: This is how stupid you sound.


I'll try to get over you not liking me.
 
2012-11-09 08:08:53 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Reposting from a previous thread because it is relevant here:

I love all of these conservatives who talk shiat about freedom, liberty, and states rights but never really support policies that expand those rights.

My state of Washington showed everyone how it was done this year. We voted to extend to gay couples the LIBERTY to marry each other. We gave people the FREEDOM to use a relatively harmless drug if they want, and in the process set up a legal showdown between the rights of the states and the power of the federal government. We did all that stuff that conservatives are supposedly for, but I'm willing to bet that the author is horrified at our election results. Conservatives talk a big game, but I don't think they really are as in love with true freedom and liberty as they say, otherwise they would be on our side in regards to the Drug War and Gay Marriage.


A few days ago I thought the same as you do now. You (and many others) should Google the GOP 2012 Platform. It's a sixty-some page PDF that details how Republicans are willing to use the states' or federal legislatures (whichever is feasible) to enact their policy positions. It throws the argument of states-vs-feds right out the window and replaces it with "whatever works better."
 
2012-11-09 08:09:00 PM  

GBmanNC: Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.

An employer can test you for tobacco or alcohol and base hiring decisions on that if they so choose to. Why would marijuana be any different in requiring a law (besides the fact there is no power to pass such a law)? Marijuana testing will change when it becomes so common place that finding employees becomes more of a burden.


No, they can suggest that they'd like to test and watch me walk away. Or they could if anyone in countries outside of North America actually put up with this shiat.

I'd never work for an employer that tested, regardless of anticipated outcome. It's about basic respect.
 
2012-11-09 08:09:06 PM  
I was gonna comment in this thread, but then I got high. I was gonna tell that Farker off, but then I got high. I was gonna make myself some bacon but then I got mmmmmmmmm bacon. That sounds really good. I love bacon.
 
2012-11-09 08:09:10 PM  
Christ, people from those states smell bad enough already.
 
2012-11-09 08:09:11 PM  

phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.



Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.
 
2012-11-09 08:10:18 PM  

TheWhoppah: Klom Dark: While weed make stupid people stupider, smart, cerebral engineer/designer types use it to enhance their thought process.

We can test that theory. Microsoft is based in Washington. Lets see if their designs improve any over the next few years.


Are you assuming they are going to just start smoking as if they have not been doing it already?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-09 08:10:35 PM  
Why would someone go to Colorado and NOT go above 8000ft?

Last time I was in Colorado it was to raft along the Green River, which being a river is at a local low point in the topography.
 
2012-11-09 08:11:41 PM  

Zombie DJ: Ninjazx: You should share your ability to identify anyone who smokes weed with the local law enforcement. It would save thousands of tax dollars

Oh take your self righteous "came down from the mountain to expose you" attitude and choke on it.
The people I mentioned OPENLY ADMIT IT. They know I don't care, (and oh, ya. I in no way can smell it while being trapped in a small radio studio no bigger than an airplane bathroom.) as long as their work gets done and I don't have to fill in, which I have to farking do every week.
We've gone through 3 more employees in the last 2 months. One decided to roll a joint while his farking mic was on. Probably shouldn't tell the World how you can't get those pesky stems from poking through the paper.
Another went out for his break, came back reeking of it and fell asleep on the farking board.
The last guy just couldn't get the hang of how to use the buttons while openly admitting to me how he can usually think better after a wake and bake.
So fark you if you think I'm judging people when the evidence of MY life was seen, not judged with, dick.


You completely missed the point that many of the people you think don't smoke... do.

Its ok, I don't expect you to understand this.
 
2012-11-09 08:12:03 PM  
Quit legitimizing help.
 
2012-11-09 08:12:04 PM  

Bubrubb: Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.

It's irrelevant - If you work somewhere where you're employer says "You can't use drugs that we test for, and work here", then you're SOL no matter where you were getting all potted up


This isn't directed at you, but is directed at the subject of your conversation: Does anyone know of case-law where opioids were tested for as a matter of company policy, and found to be used by someone with a prescription for their use?
 
2012-11-09 08:12:45 PM  

TheWhoppah: Klom Dark: While weed make stupid people stupider, smart, cerebral engineer/designer types use it to enhance their thought process.

We can test that theory. Microsoft is based in Washington. Lets see if their designs improve any over the next few years.


M$ don't care, I know a ton of people that worked there that do it. As long as they're doing their jobs it's not a problem. It's doubtful that anything will change, since people here smoked before it was even legal.
 
2012-11-09 08:12:56 PM  

Indubitably: Quit legitimizing help.


Help is help.

Let it be.
 
2012-11-09 08:13:22 PM  
Bill Simmons quipped today that this was the reason Peyton Manning bought all those Papa John franchises.
 
2012-11-09 08:14:38 PM  

little big man: Bill Simmons quipped today that this was the reason Peyton Manning bought all those Papa John franchises.


Your meta thought is meta drought.
 
2012-11-09 08:15:20 PM  

Indubitably: little big man: Bill Simmons quipped today that this was the reason Peyton Manning bought all those Papa John franchises.

Your meta thought is meta drought.


*)
 
2012-11-09 08:15:58 PM  
Tourists are bad enough but stoner tourists; that has to be hellish

col.stb.s-msn.com
 
2012-11-09 08:16:12 PM  

Amos Quito: phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.


Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.


They lack the resources, and now the cooperation of the local cops, to go after small scale growers and possession crimes. Retail sales? Oh, yeah, that is a completely different animal. We shall see, but there are 100s of medical marijuana dispensaries openly operating right now in Colorado. Let's just say I'm glad the Mormon doesn't get to decide the Federal response.
 
2012-11-09 08:17:42 PM  

Elzar: So can I lose my job if I legally smoke out in CO or WA and then come home? Is there any lawsuit money in the deal if I get wrongfully fired for legally partaking in another state? Should I go to law school and pursue a degree in exploiting this new found goldmine of legal battles?


Probably, the supreme court ruled that states can fire members of the Native American Church for using Peyote in religious rituals.
 
2012-11-09 08:18:07 PM  
Piss tests are a cinch to beat, even randoms. Easiest way to tell a responsible stoner from a farkup. One is working for a lawfirm while the others working a jiffylube.

//obvious
 
2012-11-09 08:19:18 PM  

Zombie DJ: Ninjazx: You should share your ability to identify anyone who smokes weed with the local law enforcement. It would save thousands of tax dollars

Oh take your self righteous "came down from the mountain to expose you" attitude and choke on it.
The people I mentioned OPENLY ADMIT IT. They know I don't care, (and oh, ya. I in no way can smell it while being trapped in a small radio studio no bigger than an airplane bathroom.) as long as their work gets done and I don't have to fill in, which I have to farking do every week.
We've gone through 3 more employees in the last 2 months. One decided to roll a joint while his farking mic was on. Probably shouldn't tell the World how you can't get those pesky stems from poking through the paper.
Another went out for his break, came back reeking of it and fell asleep on the farking board.
The last guy just couldn't get the hang of how to use the buttons while openly admitting to me how he can usually think better after a wake and bake.
So fark you if you think I'm judging people when the evidence of MY life was seen, not judged with, dick.


LOL! Your problem is not pot. It's DJs! Thats just how they roll.

/sorry
 
2012-11-09 08:20:03 PM  

hasty ambush: Tourists are bad enough but stoner tourists; that has to be hellish

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Not if you get over your disdain and understand:

I read something hateful recently in the NYT from some anti-marijuana crusader "therapist," and I have five words:

Get over yourself; thank you.

P.S. That is all. *)
 
2012-11-09 08:25:25 PM  

scottydoesntknow: PapaChester: My family is already planning to move the the bi-annual family vacation to an alternating local of CO and WA , switching from AL and HI.

That's cool about the switch, but what the hell made your family decide to originally have alternate vacations between Hawaii (a damn near paradise), and Alabama (a Deliverance paradise)?


You know how I can tell you've never been to Alabama?
 
2012-11-09 08:29:28 PM  

DrPainMD: scottydoesntknow: PapaChester: My family is already planning to move the the bi-annual family vacation to an alternating local of CO and WA , switching from AL and HI.

That's cool about the switch, but what the hell made your family decide to originally have alternate vacations between Hawaii (a damn near paradise), and Alabama (a Deliverance paradise)?

You know how I can tell you've never been to Alabama?


Because he doesn't walk with a limp and doesn't piss himself when the banjo starts up?
 
2012-11-09 08:30:24 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Amos Quito: phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.


Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.

They lack the resources, and now the cooperation of the local cops, to go after small scale growers and possession crimes. Retail sales? Oh, yeah, that is a completely different animal. We shall see, but there are 100s of medical marijuana dispensaries openly operating right now in Colorado. Let's just say I'm glad the Mormon doesn't get to decide the Federal response.



First, I agree with the bolded 1,000%.

I don't presume that the Feds would send their boys in to bag dopers and small-time dealers, that would be silly. They have other means of coercion:

National Minimum Drinking Age Act

"The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress as a mechanism whereby all states would become thereafter required to legislate the age of 21 years as a minimum age for purchasing and publicly possessing alcoholic beverages. Under the Federal Aid Highway Act, a state with a minimum age below 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment.[1]"

ALL states complied.

And if withholding money doesn't work, they can always ratchet it up.

funnyanimalpicturescat.com
 
2012-11-09 08:30:35 PM  

Zombie DJ: Ninjazx: You should share your ability to identify anyone who smokes weed with the local law enforcement. It would save thousands of tax dollars

Oh take your self righteous "came down from the mountain to expose you" attitude and choke on it.
The people I mentioned OPENLY ADMIT IT. They know I don't care, (and oh, ya. I in no way can smell it while being trapped in a small radio studio no bigger than an airplane bathroom.) as long as their work gets done and I don't have to fill in, which I have to farking do every week.
We've gone through 3 more employees in the last 2 months. One decided to roll a joint while his farking mic was on. Probably shouldn't tell the World how you can't get those pesky stems from poking through the paper.
Another went out for his break, came back reeking of it and fell asleep on the farking board.
The last guy just couldn't get the hang of how to use the buttons while openly admitting to me how he can usually think better after a wake and bake.
So fark you if you think I'm judging people when the evidence of MY life was seen, not judged with, dick.


You're anecdotal evidence is irrefutable. There is no point in arguing with you, you won!
 
2012-11-09 08:30:42 PM  

gibbon1: Elzar: So can I lose my job if I legally smoke out in CO or WA and then come home? Is there any lawsuit money in the deal if I get wrongfully fired for legally partaking in another state? Should I go to law school and pursue a degree in exploiting this new found goldmine of legal battles?

Probably, the supreme court ruled that states can fire members of the Native American Church for using Peyote in religious rituals.


Not all states will do that.

bruegel: TheWhoppah: Klom Dark: While weed make stupid people stupider, smart, cerebral engineer/designer types use it to enhance their thought process.

We can test that theory. Microsoft is based in Washington. Lets see if their designs improve any over the next few years.

Are you assuming they are going to just start smoking as if they have not been doing it already?


I know several people that work there. Posts diected at this area by people who have never lived here are always amusing.
 
2012-11-09 08:32:27 PM  
A person's position on MJ legalization is one of my most trusted yardsticks for determining if I'll ever really be close friends with someone. I haven't smoked in years (was daily long ago) and likely will go indefinitely unless it falls into my lap, but if you're truly against legalization, we're going to have a hell of a time seeing eye to eye. It's not even that I'm passionate about the issue, it's just that being against weed correlates STRONGLY with a slew of other personality traits that are basically diametrically opposed to mine. In my anecdotal experience, anyway...

We can still be acquaintances and work well with each other, but we're on different paths.
 
2012-11-09 08:32:39 PM  
What changed this week was the calls for work and open discourse about what people are doing.

Not a lot will change besides other states biatching about exporters.

The town doesn't want more stores but agree that they won't limit the will of the people.

/everyone wants a flip-flop.
 
2012-11-09 08:34:56 PM  

Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.


Well, in SOME states, they can legally fire you for legally using TOBACCO.

A court case would probably hinge upon firing, or discriminatory hiring practices, against a protected group- women, minorities, immigrants. BTW, you may assume otherwise, but in many states, it's actually LEGAL to fire someone for being gay. Outright. "I fired him because I found out he was gay and this is a gay-free workplace."=legal.

Well, they WOULD get in trouble for firing someone for taking "medicinal marijuana". Lotta problems there, firing someone for medical reasons unrelated to the job.

Originally, they say one of the INITIAL motivations for making marijuana illegal was because it was primarily a "Mexican thing", and you can't arrest people for being Mexican, but you can arrest them for doing Mexican things. This sort of discriminatory motivation, if successfully argued in court, could easily be a violation of the Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution.

But good luck with that, the wild imbalance of sentencing between "crack" (largely a "black thing") and "cocaine powder" (a "white thing") went unaddressed for decades, and only got "somewhat less biased" recently. I don't know how you're gonna argue that marijuana is any way a scheme to discriminate against an undesirable subgroup now.
 
2012-11-09 08:36:44 PM  

ShawnDoc: Even without pot tourism, there's already plenty of pot users in each state, and plenty of tax money to be made by taking the sales out of the black market and putting it in the corner store.


AND you have money saved by not arresting or imprisoning those people.

It's like your employer giving you a raise and paying off your car.
 
2012-11-09 08:37:07 PM  

Klom Dark: Gig103: Until the court rules if a work-related drug test can get you fired if you smoked in CO or WA, I can't imagine it's going to change for a lot of people.

Good for those states for regulating and taxing it. Less money to the cartels.

fark that shiat, there's a lot of companies out there that don't test for weed. While weed make stupid people stupider, smart, cerebral engineer/designer types use it to enhance their thought process. Companies will start losing their best talent if they don't wake the fark up.


No they'll lose the stoners who aren't the best talent. The best talent is smart enough not to smoke dope to become stupid.
 
2012-11-09 08:37:18 PM  
Gratz to WA and CO for acting like adults. Time to end the failing prohibition nation-wide.
 
2012-11-09 08:38:31 PM  
2013 is gonna be a ton o' fun

i911.photobucket.com

/still the original, biggest and best
 
2012-11-09 08:38:41 PM  

Amos Quito: Ow! That was my feelings!: Amos Quito: phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.


Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.

They lack the resources, and now the cooperation of the local cops, to go after small scale growers and possession crimes. Retail sales? Oh, yeah, that is a completely different animal. We shall see, but there are 100s of medical marijuana dispensaries openly operating right now in Colorado. Let's just say I'm glad the Mormon doesn't get to decide the Federal response.


First, I agree with the bolded 1,000%.

I don't presume that the Feds would send their boys in to bag dopers and small-time dealers, that would be silly. They have other means of coercion:

National Minimum Drinking Age Act

"The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress as a mechanism whereby all states would become thereafter required to legislate the age of 21 years as a minimum age for purchasing and publicly possessing alcoholic beverages. Under the Federal Aid Highway Act, a state with a minimum age below 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment.[1]"

ALL states complied.

And if withholding money doesn't work, they can always ratchet it up.

[funnyanimalpicturescat.com image 250x200]


Ah, but for the Feds to withhold money from Colorado or Washington would require an act of Congress. So, for the first time in 40 years it would be 'debated' in the US Congress. I really doubt the prohibitionists and DEA want that to happen. The very act of having that debate is a loss for the prohibitionists. But, bring it on if they do, it is WAY past time we had a national conversation about the drug war.
 
2012-11-09 08:38:50 PM  

Amos Quito: Ow! That was my feelings!: Amos Quito: phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.


Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.

They lack the resources, and now the cooperation of the local cops, to go after small scale growers and possession crimes. Retail sales? Oh, yeah, that is a completely different animal. We shall see, but there are 100s of medical marijuana dispensaries openly operating right now in Colorado. Let's just say I'm glad the Mormon doesn't get to decide the Federal response.


First, I agree with the bolded 1,000%.

I don't presume that the Feds would send their boys in to bag dopers and small-time dealers, that would be silly. They have other means of coercion:

National Minimum Drinking Age Act

"The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress as a mechanism whereby all states would become thereafter required to legislate the age of 21 years as a minimum age for purchasing and publicly possessing alcoholic beverages. Under the Federal Aid Highway Act, a state with a minimum age below 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment.[1]"

ALL states complied.

And if withholding money doesn't work, they can always ratchet it up.

[funnyanimalpicturescat.com image 250x200]


Reregulate.

Now.

*)

There is always new money, right?

Word.
 
2012-11-09 08:39:56 PM  
It's going to be tough to establish and run these businesses. Banks are forbidden to do business with them. The IRS won't allow any deductions for business expenses. State regs will require expensive security measures and impose location restrictions. Local governments can ban them. The feds may bust them at any time.

I can think of better investments.
 
2012-11-09 08:41:34 PM  

Indubitably: Amos Quito: Ow! That was my feelings!: Amos Quito: phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.


Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.

They lack the resources, and now the cooperation of the local cops, to go after small scale growers and possession crimes. Retail sales? Oh, yeah, that is a completely different animal. We shall see, but there are 100s of medical marijuana dispensaries openly operating right now in Colorado. Let's just say I'm glad the Mormon doesn't get to decide the Federal response.


First, I agree with the bolded 1,000%.

I don't presume that the Feds would send their boys in to bag dopers and small-time dealers, that would be silly. They have other means of coercion:

National Minimum Drinking Age Act

"The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress as a mechanism whereby all states would become thereafter required to legislate the age of 21 years as a minimum age for purchasing and publicly possessing alcoholic beverages. Under the Federal Aid Highway Act, a state with a minimum age below 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment.[1]"

ALL states complied.

And if withholding money doesn't work, they can always ratchet it up.

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Reregulate.

Now.

*)

There is always new money, right?

Word.


P.S. Let's demoney drugs. Make 'em free, or at least tax them: let the users pay, legally and respectfully.
 
2012-11-09 08:42:32 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: Amos Quito: Ow! That was my feelings!: Amos Quito: phrawgh: Never fear, good Christian citizens, the ATF and federal government are coming to help you.


Hate to say it, but ^THIS^.

If you think the Feds are going to let these rogue States defy their AUTHORATAY, you're already so high that you have no need for legalization.

It's not about "health" or "safety", it's about POWER.

They lack the resources, and now the cooperation of the local cops, to go after small scale growers and possession crimes. Retail sales? Oh, yeah, that is a completely different animal. We shall see, but there are 100s of medical marijuana dispensaries openly operating right now in Colorado. Let's just say I'm glad the Mormon doesn't get to decide the Federal response.


First, I agree with the bolded 1,000%.

I don't presume that the Feds would send their boys in to bag dopers and small-time dealers, that would be silly. They have other means of coercion:

National Minimum Drinking Age Act

"The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress as a mechanism whereby all states would become thereafter required to legislate the age of 21 years as a minimum age for purchasing and publicly possessing alcoholic beverages. Under the Federal Aid Highway Act, a state with a minimum age below 21 would be subjected to a ten percent decrease in its annual federal highway apportionment.[1]"

ALL states complied.

And if withholding money doesn't work, they can always ratchet it up.

[funnyanimalpicturescat.com image 250x200]

Reregulate.

Now.

*)

There is always new money, right?

Word.

P.S. Let's demoney drugs. Make 'em free, or at least tax them: let the users pay, legally and respectfully.


This is America?
 
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