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2012-11-09 03:29:23 PM  
They need to get Phil back. HE knew how to motivate a team.

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2012-11-09 03:40:16 PM  
Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone. 
 
2012-11-09 03:53:18 PM  
Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.
 
2012-11-09 04:06:42 PM  

downstairs: He got them to dragged them down in the conference finals in his first year, and is dealing with a re-tooled staff.


FTFY
 
2012-11-09 04:39:27 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.


This. 
 
2012-11-09 04:42:56 PM  
Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss
 
2012-11-09 04:46:02 PM  
So there are new players and injuries making a team go off to a 1-4 start. The solution? Fire the coach!

Farking idiots. You either fire him early in the offseason or you at least wait and see if it all clicks together. No season is decided by the first five games.
 
2012-11-09 04:54:32 PM  

Trocadero: Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss


Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.
 
2012-11-09 04:55:15 PM  

Sargun: So there are new players and injuries making a team go off to a 1-4 start. The solution? Fire the coach!

Farking idiots. You either fire him early in the offseason or you at least wait and see if it all clicks together. No season is decided by the first five games.


The weird thing to consider is what would he have had to do for this not to happen? Do they fire him if he goes 2-3? Probably not, right?So one loss made them decide to pull the plug on this experiment.

The other thing is surely Kobe stabbed him in the back. No way they do this without some input from Kobe, I don't care what they say. So who's Kobe want to coach the team? Jackson probably number one. Coach K number two. Neither of those are doable I don't think, so I think the next choice will be D'Antoni.
 
2012-11-09 04:55:31 PM  
Gg lakers
 
2012-11-09 04:57:25 PM  
Brown sucked. Don't even know why he was there in the first place, he always seemed like a Del Harris choice to me. The Lakers have never won a championship behind a soggy coach like him.
 
2012-11-09 04:57:28 PM  

js34603: Sargun: So there are new players and injuries making a team go off to a 1-4 start. The solution? Fire the coach!

Farking idiots. You either fire him early in the offseason or you at least wait and see if it all clicks together. No season is decided by the first five games.

The weird thing to consider is what would he have had to do for this not to happen? Do they fire him if he goes 2-3? Probably not, right?So one loss made them decide to pull the plug on this experiment.

The other thing is surely Kobe stabbed him in the back. No way they do this without some input from Kobe, I don't care what they say. So who's Kobe want to coach the team? Jackson probably number one. Coach K number two. Neither of those are doable I don't think, so I think the next choice will be D'Antoni.


With D'Antoni they'll find a way to play even less defense.
 
2012-11-09 04:58:50 PM  

Sargun: So there are new players and injuries making a team go off to a 1-4 start. The solution? Fire the coach!

Farking idiots. You either fire him early in the offseason or you at least wait and see if it all clicks together. No season is decided by the first five games.


Combine it with a winless pre-season and they are 1-13. And they do not look like they have improved AT ALL since that very first pre-season game. They look uninspired, angry at times, and not on the same page with each other or the coach.

You don't go 1-13 in Laker land and survive, whether a big chunk of that was pre-season or not.

Brown was a bad hire to begin with.
 
2012-11-09 05:01:49 PM  

downstairs: Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone.


History fail.

I was never a fan of Brown's, so I am glad the Lakers are moving on. It's hard to be patient when you're trying to win NOW and impress your next superstar to sign a long-term contract.

AdolfOliverPanties: Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.


This. Giving him the axe now allows them to hire another big-name coach, or maybe mend the hurt feelings with BShaw, and have a shot at righting the ship before the games start to really matter.
 
2012-11-09 05:02:30 PM  

Sargun: So there are new players and injuries making a team go off to a 1-4 start. The solution? Fire the coach!

Farking idiots. You either fire him early in the offseason or you at least wait and see if it all clicks together. No season is decided by the first five games.


Brown's was.
 
2012-11-09 05:05:45 PM  

Langston: AdolfOliverPanties: Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.

This. 


the fans here are merciless - the team has looked just awful at both ends of the court, completely overmatched for 48 minutes ... i have yet to see a team they could beat (ok, they pounded detroit)

i'm hoping they hire jerry sloan, i hear he's been waiting for this day to come ...
 
2012-11-09 05:06:11 PM  

downstairs: Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone. 


The Lakers made it to the semi finals and a season win per of .621, not the conference finals. He was hired for his rep as a Defensive minded coach. Laker's have been a horrible defensive team in the last 20 or so games. Add in riding his starting lineup like rented move, firing the guy early in the year was the best bet at not flushing the season.
 
2012-11-09 05:07:36 PM  

vincent_blackshadow: Langston: AdolfOliverPanties: Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.

This. 

the fans here are merciless - the team has looked just awful at both ends of the court, completely overmatched for 48 minutes ... i have yet to see a team they could beat (ok, they pounded detroit)

i'm hoping they hire jerry sloan, i hear he's been waiting for this day to come ...


Sloan would be an interesting hire. But who would run the point in his pick and roll offense? Make Kobe run point?
 
2012-11-09 05:13:49 PM  
The only excuse for this would have to be based on something OTHER than a 1-4 record. If the GM is talking with him about the team/strategy and Brown is obviously clueless about some basic stuff or is totally ignoring his boss' direction then fire him for that. But 1-4 in a season that long in which only the playoffs really matter is nothing.
 
2012-11-09 05:15:27 PM  

cefm: The only excuse for this would have to be based on something OTHER than a 1-4 record. If the GM is talking with him about the team/strategy and Brown is obviously clueless about some basic stuff or is totally ignoring his boss' direction then fire him for that. But 1-4 in a season that long in which only the playoffs really matter is nothing.


Getting the hook 5 games into the season is tough, but it couldn't have been Xs & Os. I have read on Laker BBS sites accounts of people being at the games a few rows behind the bench, & the general consensus was that Mike Brown had ZERO respect from the players. Not listening, scowls, body language...just completely aloof during timeouts...he had lost the team. You just can't recover from that on a team with big personalities like the Lakers have. He's a nice guy & all, but that shiat don't play when you're playing with Jerry Buss's money.

(from another thread)
 
2012-11-09 05:18:08 PM  

NorCalLos: Trocadero: Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss

Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.


Jack Mckeon Marlins rallied to win the WS after he was hired.
 
2012-11-09 05:18:45 PM  

vincent_blackshadow: Langston: AdolfOliverPanties: Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.

This. 

the fans here are merciless - the team has looked just awful at both ends of the court, completely overmatched for 48 minutes ... i have yet to see a team they could beat (ok, they pounded detroit)

i'm hoping they hire jerry sloan, i hear he's been waiting for this day to come ...


Jerry Sloan + Steve Nash + Dwight Howard + Pau Gasol = Championship Team
Jerry Sloan + Steve Nash + Dwight Howard + Pau Gasol + Kobe Bryant = Jerry Sloan, Rip 2014.
 
2012-11-09 05:19:07 PM  

Rozotorical: downstairs: Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone. 

The Lakers made it to the semi finals and a season win per of .621, not the conference finals. He was hired for his rep as a Defensive minded coach. Laker's have been a horrible defensive team in the last 20 or so games. Add in riding his starting lineup like rented move, firing the guy early in the year was the best bet at not flushing the season.



Ok, thanks to Mitch Taylor's Bro and you for setting me straight.
 
2012-11-09 05:19:11 PM  

NorCalLos: Trocadero: Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss

Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.


l.yimg.com
 
2012-11-09 05:20:13 PM  

NorCalLos: Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.


Lakers already did it. But they had a guy who would turn out to be a legendary coach sitting right there on the bench. I'm not sure Bickerstaff or Jordan (no, the other one) are legendary coaches. Hmm, maybe the Rifleman? Nah, they've already gone with Bickerstaff for the time being.
 
2012-11-09 05:22:30 PM  

Trocadero: NorCalLos: Trocadero: Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss

Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.

[l.yimg.com image 630x587]


epltalk.com
 
2012-11-09 05:24:01 PM  
He should have never been hired in the first place and now he's an even worse fit with Nash and Howard there. The Princeton offense with these guys? Really Mike Brown? The Lakers should have seen this coming and done something before the season.
 
2012-11-09 05:25:01 PM  
Rozotorical
Trocadero


Alrighty, then. If it's possible, while not probable, I say bring Jackson back. Sloan is a nice idea and would be a great story; but Jackson's system and style are much more appropriate for this team. If Sloan's "my way or the highway" stuff didn't work with Derron Williams; it damned sure ain't gonna work with Kobe/Howard, et al.
 
2012-11-09 05:26:53 PM  

Trocadero: Trocadero: NorCalLos: Trocadero: Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss

Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.

[l.yimg.com image 630x587]

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I said "sport."
 
2012-11-09 05:28:20 PM  
Personally, my rankings are thus:

Short term:
Phil Jackson
Mike D'antoni
Nate McMillan
Jerry Sloan

Long term:
Brian Shaw
Byron Scott
 
2012-11-09 05:34:43 PM  

Trocadero: Personally, my rankings are thus:

Short term:
Phil Jackson
Mike D'antoni
Nate McMillan
Jerry Sloan

Long term:
Brian Shaw
Byron Scott


I'd flip Nate and Mike, but I also think now would be the time to give BShaw his shot. I think he was really pissed about Brown's hiring, but a sincere "we're sorry. we screwed up and should've hired you" plus a huge stack of money might fix things.
 
2012-11-09 05:38:51 PM  

Trocadero: Personally, my rankings are thus:

Short term:
Phil Jackson
Mike D'antoni
Nate McMillan
Jerry Sloan

Long term:
Brian Shaw
Byron Scott


Not sure if Phil is hip enough to come back.
 
2012-11-09 05:41:54 PM  
D'Antoni seems like the logical choice. Already has good repoire with 3 starters, will bring "Showtime" era type basketball back (which Jerry Buss loves,) & he's a Pacific/Western Conference vet. He's got to shore up on his D though.

www.momfluential.net
 
2012-11-09 05:42:45 PM  

downstairs: Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone.


Their talent got them to the conference finals. Running an offense ill-suited to their personnel got him fired.
 
2012-11-09 05:44:21 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Trocadero: Personally, my rankings are thus:

Short term:
Phil Jackson
Mike D'antoni
Nate McMillan
Jerry Sloan

Long term:
Brian Shaw
Byron Scott

Not sure if Phil is hip enough to come back.


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2012-11-09 05:51:04 PM  

lakrfool: D'Antoni seems like the logical choice. Already has good repoire with 3 starters, will bring "Showtime" era type basketball back (which Jerry Buss loves,) & he's a Pacific/Western Conference vet. He's got to shore up on his D though.


The problem is the Lakers aren't fast enough to be the Showtime Lakers. Let's assume Nash plays the role of Magic and Kobe plays the role of one wing (James, Byron or Coop). Who's the other wing? MWP? Maaayyybe. At least Howard would be up the court faster than Kareem so they could set up their half-court offense sooner.

And part of what gave Riley's Showtime Lakers the ability to run fast breaks was defense. Can't do that when you're taking the ball out of bounds.
 
2012-11-09 05:54:53 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: downstairs: Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone.

Their talent size got them to the conference semi-finals.


Fixed. Denver ran rings around them, but couldn't stop Bynum AND Gasol down low when it mattered.

Running an offense ill-suited to their personnel got him fired.

Agreed.
 
2012-11-09 06:00:43 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: At least Howard would be up the court faster than Kareem so they could set up their half-court offense sooner.


Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.
 
2012-11-09 06:05:22 PM  

NotEric: Mitch Taylor's Bro: At least Howard would be up the court faster than Kareem so they could set up their half-court offense sooner.


Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.


LOL, awesome!

/ Scraps is a boy dog
 
2012-11-09 06:06:14 PM  
What a freaking joke
 
2012-11-09 06:07:04 PM  

NorCalLos: Trocadero: Trocadero: NorCalLos: Trocadero: Finally, someone realizes that if you make a damn mistake, you don't double down by "waiting to see if it gets better," you get rid of him ASAP. Of course, you should do it EARLIER so you can get a better coach quickly, instead of whatever the fark this is. They shouldn't have hired his dumb ass in the first place, they should have hired Brian Shaw immediately.

/Fire Jim Buss

Unless you have a certain "legendary coach" who may be willing to take over the team, but doesn't want to put in a full season, though I can't think of a team in any sport that won a title the same year a coach was fired.

[l.yimg.com image 630x587]

You sound fat.

[epltalk.com image 500x369]

I said "sport."

 
2012-11-09 06:07:55 PM  
NorCalLos
You sound fat.
 
2012-11-09 06:12:07 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: downstairs: Wow.  He got them to the conference finals in his first year, and it dealing with a re-tooled staff.  Its not easy to manage a bunch of stars from day one.
 
I was thinking if they had a losing record by Christmas, he'd be gone.

Their talent got them to the conference finals. Running an offense ill-suited to their personnel got him fired.


If their talent got them to the conference finals, then it was Mike Brown's rotation (running his star players into the ground) that dragged that to a semi-finals exit. Because they certainly didn't make the conference finals, that was OKC vs. SA.

Mike Brown was supposed to be a defensive minded coach that would fix the defense. The defense has looked like crap all season long. He wasn't fired because of the offense. If you don't think he's going to be the one to lead the team to the promised land, you need to cut bait ASAP so you can get a new coach in a settled before you don't make the playoffs.
 
2012-11-09 06:23:20 PM  
Sitting on a giant pile of money, Mark Cuban can't stop giggling.
 
2012-11-09 06:35:31 PM  

professorkowalski: Sloan would be an interesting hire. But who would run the point in his pick and roll offense? Make Kobe run point?


that nash fella in a few weeks ... he was wasted in the princeton, let him move the ball up like he's used to!



Rozotorical:
Jerry Sloan + Steve Nash + Dwight Howard + Pau Gasol = Championship Team
Jerry Sloan + Steve Nash + Dwight Howard + Pau Gasol + Kobe Bryant = Jerry Sloan, Rip 2014.


gasol needs to wake his ass up; he's getting beat on the boards at both ends & is missing wide open 17-footers with regularity ... i'd LOVE to see byron scott here; hell yes, steal him from cleveland - getting phil back of course would make stern's buttcrack close up & provide a perfect ending to his last season as nba czar ...
 
2012-11-09 06:45:19 PM  
The Lakers hit the panic button today, a day after saying that they supported their coach. I wonder if they listed the experience of Howard. Doesn't the guy have an understanding of how to get a coach fired?
 
2012-11-09 06:49:12 PM  
good. Hire Brian Shaw, dammit.
 
2012-11-09 06:49:25 PM  
I vote Stan VanGundy.

/Eat shiat Dwight Howard
 
2012-11-09 06:53:06 PM  
Simmons summed up Mike Brown quite well in his column. Only man who could stop LeBron from winning a championship. He's always been and always will be an awful coach.
 
2012-11-09 06:59:33 PM  

Rozotorical: vincent_blackshadow: Langston: AdolfOliverPanties: Lakers are in a win-now mode. They cannot afford to be patient.

This. 

the fans here are merciless - the team has looked just awful at both ends of the court, completely overmatched for 48 minutes ... i have yet to see a team they could beat (ok, they pounded detroit)

i'm hoping they hire jerry sloan, i hear he's been waiting for this day to come ...

Jerry Sloan + Steve Nash + Dwight Howard + Pau Gasol = Championship Team
Jerry Sloan + Steve Nash + Dwight Howard + Pau Gasol + Kobe Bryant = Jerry Sloan, Rip 2014.


Actually, I think the bigger problem with Sloan is Dwight Howard. Sloan's a tough SOB that doesn't put up with things; those two wouldn't get along. I think Sloan and Kobe would probably get along pretty well as coach/player.
 
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