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(Talking Points Memo)   Your schadenfreude for the day: billionaire donors want to change campaign finance laws because they can't tell if SuperPACs squandered their money   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 140
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2012-11-09 02:06:06 PM  

Jupiter's Thunder: [www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com image 300x364]

[us.123rf.com image 400x300]

[www.awesomestories.com image 800x933]

/Hope they kept the receipt


MoneyReOldguy

GOOD ONE!
 
2012-11-09 02:08:56 PM  
SuperPACS = scams

Karl Rove = big-time con man

\ha ha
 
2012-11-09 02:16:03 PM  

Rwa2play: DamnYankees: Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.

Call another one, same here

/lulz
//holy crap has this been fun


So, what we're looking at here is basically the exact opposite of a waahmbulance. Any ideas for a good term?
 
2012-11-09 02:17:07 PM  

alizeran: [i46.tinypic.com image 470x400]


the shiat was outsourced, though. remember the story about the Filipino call centers doing the robocalls?
 
2012-11-09 02:19:19 PM  
I've always said that you need a certain amount of money to be a viable contender in an election, but once you spend more than that, each additional dollar buys fewer and fewer votes-at some point there might even be a backlash and spending more money loses you votes as people start to get sick of hearing your ads constantly.

Plus, money spent by outside groups is always less effective than from the campaigns themselves. The message is muddled due to the lack of coordination, plus the campaign gets better ad rates under the law.

At this point, money isn't really a problem for either side, in almost any election. Everybody has plenty of money, at least to reach the viability threshold I mentioned.
 
2012-11-09 02:20:15 PM  

theorellior: Rwa2play: DamnYankees: Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.

Call another one, same here

/lulz
//holy crap has this been fun

So, what we're looking at here is basically the exact opposite of a waahmbulance. Any ideas for a good term?


Road to awesomesause?
 
2012-11-09 02:23:56 PM  
It just keeps coming and coming. This is the best election ever.
 
2012-11-09 02:29:39 PM  
"We want to change a part of the law so we can see what they did with the money, but at the same time, we'd also like to keep the part of the law that says that they don't have to disclose who that money came from."

Well, you're a bunch of rich bastards and the Supreme Court has five assholes on it, so yeah, we can probably get this done for you.
 
2012-11-09 02:37:33 PM  
I feel so bad for those poor billionaahahahahah no.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-09 02:41:06 PM  

fringedmyotis: ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.

Yep. I stopped watching/listening to any & all political ads after the 2004 election. Spend all you want, jackasses.


Hell I waited weeks to turn in my absentee ballot just so I could recycle the 1-6 pieces of lit sent to my house every day, 95% of it conservative crap.

In SEPTEMBER we told an Obama knocker we were all straiggt Obama. We all have decent showing up to the poll records for being under 30. After that they diverted resources *elsewhere*. We got Romney lit up until ELECTION DAY.

Not watching cable or broadcast TV ruled though.
 
2012-11-09 02:41:44 PM  
Hey, Karl, see if you can figure out what these rich people all have in common.

Robert Blake, John Huston, Don King, William S. Burroughs, Ted Kennedy, Laura Bush, Howard Hughes, Phil Spector, Jayson Williams...
 
2012-11-09 02:43:40 PM  

Wadded Beef: Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?

The GOP makes one more Willie Horton ad.

/not obscure.


you've seen one willie horton, you've seen them all

and everywhere I go!

/lived outside of dc, traveled the beltway, but didn't have a black van.
 
2012-11-09 02:47:03 PM  
If a report I heard today is correct the level of FAIL from the GOP super-PACS was truly epic, according to one article I read Rove's super-pac supported the winning candiate only 6% of the time.

I remeber years ago there were articles about Minor GOP figures like Linda Chavez making a living running phony pacs that spent less than 5% of what they earned on actual poltical activities , and sleazy GOP direct mail fundraising outfits that raised money nationally for uber-long shot candidates running against nationally famous Dems (like say Pelosi) who were in utterly safe districts, and then charging the candidate a fee of 90% of the money raised.

It seems like Crossroads may be this same scam taken to a brand new level
 
2012-11-09 02:51:49 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: They want to change the rules because their guy lost. If Romney had won, more laws would have been repealed and the debates would have turned into money fights.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-09 02:52:25 PM  

Muta: ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.

This thread works well with the 'community organizer' thread. I don't think a billionaire wants to pay for a well organized ground game. They want to spend their money and see the results. You can't see thousands of dedicated individuals walking door to door through thousands of neighborhoods so a billionaire doesn't want to spend money on that. They want comercials that echo their views that they can watch. The result are commercials with actors playing the part of a mother acting concerned that a billionaire's taxes might increase.


Ha! That's funny to think about. Rich conservatives basically just paid $2billion to have liberal actors pretend to be conservative on tv, then vote for Obama.
 
2012-11-09 02:54:29 PM  
Short answer: they did.
Long answer: TTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDD
 
2012-11-09 03:04:54 PM  

Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.


...goddamnit, never before have I wanted to believe a conspiracy theory this much...
 
2012-11-09 03:07:43 PM  

Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?


What unspent money?

I've been saying to Mrs Clam all along that everyone involved in these things is snagging their percentage of every dollar that goes past and laughing like hyenas. If you think there's gonna be a nickle left in those accounts, you're delusional.
 
2012-11-09 03:17:21 PM  

QU!RK1019: Jupiter's Thunder: [www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com image 300x364]

[us.123rf.com image 400x300]

[www.awesomestories.com image 800x933]

/Hope they kept the receipt

MoneyReOldguy

GOOD ONE!


/*snerk*
 
2012-11-09 03:26:11 PM  
Oh, there will be lawsuits. And I will cackle with glee.
 
2012-11-09 03:32:20 PM  

PsiChick: Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.

...goddamnit, never before have I wanted to believe a conspiracy theory this much...


That would at least suggest that he was still a competent businessman. As it is he appears to have been clueless as hell about his real chances and who wants a doofus that dense as President?
 
2012-11-09 03:51:31 PM  
Watching these billionaires call for regulation to protect the fidelity of their political investments is priceless. I guess the free market is good enough for them when they're huckstering billions of dollars from it, but then all of a sudden when they realized they were the sucker getting hosed by the huckster Karl Rove, it's time for a little government intervention.
 
2012-11-09 03:53:17 PM  
So what is he asking for? Outright buying of candidates? Government regulation of super-pacs? Maybe an aspirin will help his butthurt.
 
2012-11-09 04:08:05 PM  

swankywanky: CapeFearCadaver: /what, I'm supposed to actually RTFAs now?!

how can one keep up? there's a new batch of butthurt coming out every hour for the past three days!

I am so looking forward to going home for Thanksgiving to give some of the hard corr teabagger in-laws a rash of shiate!


I'm spending thanksgiving with the sane side of my family this year. I almost wish I was visiting the wingnuts this time (almost).
 
2012-11-09 04:15:59 PM  

Graffito: swankywanky: CapeFearCadaver: /what, I'm supposed to actually RTFAs now?!

how can one keep up? there's a new batch of butthurt coming out every hour for the past three days!

I am so looking forward to going home for Thanksgiving to give some of the hard corr teabagger in-laws a rash of shiate!

I'm spending thanksgiving with the sane side of my family this year. I almost wish I was visiting the wingnuts this time (almost).


fark that shiat. I'm having Thanksgiving this year (and last year was the same) at my house with other 'miscreants' whose families have effectively disowned them for being adults and not following them lock-step on a wide rage of topics.

/we're all in our early/mid-thirties, grounding us doesn't work anymore
 
2012-11-09 04:54:52 PM  

Graffito: So what is he asking for? Outright buying of candidates? Government regulation of super-pacs? Maybe an aspirin will help his butthurt.


Their money could have been used far, far, far more effectively. I might have said this in this thread already, but I'm registered Independent and as of 08 the only data the Dems had on me was that my Mom said I "might vote Obama" (which was stupid, since I was working for a Dem candidate and coordinating with the Obama campaign, but I digress). This year a nice teacher from down the street canvassed our house. We told her we were all voting for Obama, she knew we were very reliable voters... and we got absolutely nothing else. They effectively diverted resources.

We got our last Romney mailer on election day (after we came home from school, work, and two of us from working at voting locations all night).

It's hard to spend money to motivate people to get out and knock (especially since we have no landline), but hell, you can pay people money to see who has already early voted or absentee voted - just involves getting daily lists from city clerks and adding them to your database - and NOT TARGET THEM. That's public record. The fact that all 4 of us signed a pro-union petition - TWICE - was public record. But I was kind of happy they were wasting money on me.

I know money isn't the same if you have a lot of it - but there was a LOT of money spent. They're just gonna biatch now, and not blame themselves for not say paying someone to make sure the operations were running smoothly...

Oh yeah. That does sound about right for Republicans this year.

CapeFearCadaver: fark that shiat. I'm having Thanksgiving this year (and last year was the same) at my house with other 'miscreants' whose families have effectively disowned them for being adults and not following them lock-step on a wide rage of topics.

/we're all in our early/mid-thirties, grounding us doesn't work anymore


Jesus Christ.

I'm not a parent, and I'm lucky that of the two conservatives in my family one is a quiet probably fiscal one and the other has no kids (and neither are related to me by blood). But I really thought this book was universal, except for a minority of douchebag human beings who should never have been called "parents" anyway... and the fact that you can have a whole gathering of people makes me happy you'll have company but f--king depressed that you're gonna have a gathering in the first place.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-11-09 04:59:19 PM  
Don't you see: this was just Karl Rove's version of, "The Producers!"

Step 1: We find the worst play ever written possible candidate.
Step 2: We hire the worst director in town campaign staff imaginable.
Step 3: We raise two four hundred million dollars. ... One for me, one for you. There's a lot of little old ladies rich racist crazies out there!
Step 4: We hire the worst actors in New York and open on Broadway candidates and before you can say
Step 5: We close on Broadway, take our two four hundred million, and go to Rio.
 
2012-11-09 05:07:22 PM  

zetar: Don't you see: this was just Karl Rove's version of, "The Producers!"

Step 1: We find the worst play ever written possible candidate.
Step 2: We hire the worst director in town campaign staff imaginable.
Step 3: We raise two four hundred million dollars. ... One for me, one for you. There's a lot of little old ladies rich racist crazies out there!
Step 4: We hire the worst actors in New York and open on Broadway candidates and before you can say
Step 5: We close on Broadway, take our two four hundred million, and go to Rio.


FYI, I'm totally stealing this.
 
2012-11-09 05:10:50 PM  
They should try and change the laws now that they suddenly care. Maybe they can form a SuperPAC to get that achieved.
 
2012-11-09 05:47:44 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: CapeFearCadaver: fark that shiat. I'm having Thanksgiving this year (and last year was the same) at my house with other 'miscreants' whose families have effectively disowned them for being adults and not following them lock-step on a wide rage of topics.

/we're all in our early/mid-thirties, grounding us doesn't work anymore

Jesus Christ.

I'm not a parent, and I'm lucky that of the two conservatives in my family one is a quiet probably fiscal one and the other has no kids (and neither are related to me by blood). But I really thought this book was universal, except for a minority of douchebag human beings who should never have been called "parents" anyway... and the fact that you can have a whole gathering of people makes me happy you'll have company but f--king depressed that you're gonna have a gathering in the first place.


We live in NC. Could almost be enough of an excuse... Of those coming to my house we have a gay man and his partner (his partner's family lives across the country), a partial Japanese woman and her husband whose father is exceedingly vocal about his racism (hatred) towards his own family (her husband's family has all passed), an argumentative bleeding heart liberal (who I love dearly, but, he is argumentative), a couple whose family lives across the country (who are awesome!) and they simply can't afford to go see them, and me - who dared to 'vote with her vagina' this year and last year I made the mistake of not allowing my ex to abuse/control me further. That one got so bad that the DA had to actively bar my parents from the courthouse during the ex's trial.

Still love them. We all do. Yet we have all bent over backwards trying to please them, mend things - to no avail... it's just not worth the turmoil any longer. It sucks, but, hey...
 
2012-11-09 08:47:00 PM  
It's ... its like rain on your wedding day!
 
2012-11-09 09:49:31 PM  
Thus ye olde phrase,
"Don't buy a pig in a polk"

Or don't poll a pig...

/whatever.
 
2012-11-09 10:20:46 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Still love them. We all do. Yet we have all bent over backwards trying to please them, mend things - to no avail... it's just not worth the turmoil any longer. It sucks, but, hey...


I more meant that your parents couldn't be civil enough that you could still spend Thanksgiving with them, cause even if you have different views on certain thing you're still effing family.

If it was your decision to avoid the storm, then it's a bit different. That you'd have to expect a storm still sucks.
 
2012-11-09 11:41:52 PM  
*ahem*

Fark you.
 
2012-11-09 11:55:02 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: the shiat was outsourced, though. remember the story about the Filipino call centers doing the robocalls?


They had Filipino robots?
 
2012-11-10 12:37:52 AM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Karma's a biatch, biatch!
 
2012-11-10 12:47:40 AM  

Cinaed: Dear Bitter Billionaires,

Campaigns are not 'investment opportunities'. You wanted the rules changed so you could blow absurd levels of money, hundreds of millions of dollars, on what ultimately amounts to a popularity contest.

This is what you chucklefarks WANTED. Go be self-conscious about a colossal farkup in judgement on your remaining tens, if not millions, of dollars.

Sincerely, the 'not-even-middle-class-according-to-you-dipshiats' of American.


I'm stealing that.
 
2012-11-10 03:47:37 AM  

The Larch: Notabunny: Nurglitch: It's a free market. Caveat emptor.

First I giggled. Then I had a sad.

I don't believe for a second that Karl Rove "squandered" the 300 million dollars that he conned out of rich idiots. That would imply that he spent it on frivolous things that were of no use to anybody.

I believe, instead, that Karl Rove finds his fat Swiss bank account and harem of young boys to be a very wise use of the money. I am sure he does not consider it squandering at all.


4.bp.blogspot.com

You've been a naughty naughty boy Karl
 
2012-11-10 07:43:08 AM  
Let me check my empathy-o-meter.... Nope, not even a twitch.
 
2012-11-11 03:41:14 AM  
To the rich assholes who thought they could buy this election: want to talk transparency? Let's start with disclosure of all the major and minor campaign and SuperPac donors for this election cycle, with amounts, names, addresses, candidates, propositions supported and organizations listed. Break the list down to at least the county race level by state..

Only then do you get to find out who boned you into giving your millions to lost causes and loser candidates.
Transparency all the way through... you don't get to choose.
 
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