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(Talking Points Memo)   Your schadenfreude for the day: billionaire donors want to change campaign finance laws because they can't tell if SuperPACs squandered their money   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2012-11-09 10:27:51 AM  
Hint: they did
 
2012-11-09 10:30:35 AM  
"We weren't able to buy an election, so now we care"

Go f*ck yourselves.
 
2012-11-09 10:32:16 AM  
Fools and their money.
 
2012-11-09 10:32:54 AM  
Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-09 10:47:33 AM  
So if you are a right wing activist you can create a super-PAC and scam billionaires out of millions legally?

Maybe those right wing cranks are not as stupid as they sound.
 
2012-11-09 10:55:19 AM  
In TFA, Friess actually wondered "how many dollars were taken off as fees to the people running them". Politicians and the Supreme Court love their political free-speech-cash so much that they've legalized embezzlement with no enforceable paper trail or tax audit.
 
2012-11-09 11:52:50 AM  

Aarontology: "We weren't able to buy an election, so now we care"

Go f*ck yourselves.


Yup. This.
 
2012-11-09 12:00:23 PM  
Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.
 
2012-11-09 12:17:25 PM  

ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.


And I spent your money by hanging up on every taped robocall that I received from your people.

Shiat, I bet I wiped my ass with fifty bucks of yours the week before the election alone.
 
2012-11-09 12:30:21 PM  

DamnYankees: Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.


My cheek muscles have seriously cramped up now.
 
2012-11-09 12:59:50 PM  
It's a free market. Caveat emptor.
 
2012-11-09 01:00:12 PM  
Nelson.jpg
 
2012-11-09 01:00:13 PM  
I say strike while the iron is hot. Make them put their mouths where their money is.
 
2012-11-09 01:00:53 PM  

Nurglitch: It's a free market. Caveat emptor.


First I giggled. Then I had a sad.
 
2012-11-09 01:01:05 PM  
Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.
 
2012-11-09 01:01:41 PM  
Friess told the Times he'd ideally like a change to campaign finance rules that would allow donors like him to give their big checks directly to candidates.

You know...bribery.
 
2012-11-09 01:02:12 PM  

vpb: So if you are a right wing activist you can create a super-PAC and scam billionaires out of millions legally?

Maybe those right wing cranks are not as stupid as they sound.


Now that's job creation I can believe in.

/downloading Colbert's PAC-in-a-box kit right now ...
 
2012-11-09 01:02:32 PM  

born_yesterday: I say strike while the iron is hot. Make them put their mouths where their money is.


Ass pennies?
 
2012-11-09 01:02:41 PM  
"You have no idea of the financial structuring of a lot of these outside groups in terms of how much went to the actual delivery of a message," Friess said, "versus how many dollars were taken off as fees to the people running them."

So just blindly cut them a several million dollar check without doing a little research on the PAC itself.

Pardon me while I HAAAhaaahaaaaahaaaahaaaaahaaaaaa!

/dumbass
 
2012-11-09 01:03:05 PM  

Bontesla: Aarontology: "We weren't able to buy an election, so now we care"

Go f*ck yourselves.

Yup. This.


www.hollywoodisburning.com
 
2012-11-09 01:03:55 PM  
I'm guessing this was a very embezzled election, so big donors are probably right to be upset. But f*ck them. Fools and their money were parted.
 
2012-11-09 01:04:21 PM  

Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.


So,Bain it essentially.
 
2012-11-09 01:04:37 PM  
Please imaginary lord, let the republican butthurt never stop. This has been the greatest 4 day stretch in Fark history
 
2012-11-09 01:04:43 PM  
Would someone who is better at writing funny headlines than I am please submit this story and get it greened? I tried, but my headline was not up to the task. I think it's a cool story, and one that would spark a good conversation.
 
2012-11-09 01:05:02 PM  
They want to change the rules because their guy lost. If Romney had won, more laws would have been repealed and the debates would have turned into money fights.
 
2012-11-09 01:05:03 PM  
a banker is up in arms because somebody ran off with their money and now they demand accountability. how ironic.
 
2012-11-09 01:05:54 PM  
Don't worry: Richard Viguerie will be there to skin you next election too, while touting his "openness".

As the line goes from an old Maverick TV show, "The human being is the only animal you can skin more than once."

/They don't call PAC spending "Black Money" for nothing.
 
2012-11-09 01:06:06 PM  
Just put a price tag on the coonting government already.
 
2012-11-09 01:07:17 PM  

ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.


This thread works well with the 'community organizer' thread. I don't think a billionaire wants to pay for a well organized ground game. They want to spend their money and see the results. You can't see thousands of dedicated individuals walking door to door through thousands of neighborhoods so a billionaire doesn't want to spend money on that. They want comercials that echo their views that they can watch. The result are commercials with actors playing the part of a mother acting concerned that a billionaire's taxes might increase.
 
2012-11-09 01:08:07 PM  
you got Bained by Rove.
 
2012-11-09 01:08:09 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-09 01:08:20 PM  
Reminds me of this d-bag within a group of friends that played texas hold'em one night. I won, and it wasn't even that big of a buy in ($20 iirc), afterwards he pleaded that I give him some of his buy in back and that if he won he would give me some of my money back. I calmly explained to him what 'gambling' meant and if he won I wouldn't have biached.
 
2012-11-09 01:08:49 PM  
A fool and his money...

Go fark yourselves, would-be plutocrats. You wanted the ability to spend near-limitless amounts of money without transparency and accountability to influence a political election, and you got it.
 
2012-11-09 01:09:06 PM  
FEED, MY DARLINGS, FEED!
 
2012-11-09 01:10:03 PM  
It's not the government's job to be regulating businesses. If the SuperPACs are embezzeling money, the free market will put them out of business and less-embezzely ones will take their place
 
2012-11-09 01:10:10 PM  
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! *wheeze* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *cough* AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHH!
 
2012-11-09 01:10:13 PM  
Nobody cares that the sleazy assholes you hired to usurp the democratic process swindled you.

You lost. Shut up and start paying your farking taxes.
 
2012-11-09 01:11:35 PM  
The problem, retired mutual fund executive Foster Freiss told The Los Angeles Times for an article published Thursday, has to do with transparency.

littlepoets.files.wordpress.com

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/douchebags
//yeah, people on the ground who care passionately enough to aid a ridiculously awesomely comprehensive voter data bank in preparation for a ridiculously awesome GOTV effort won. Your millions didn't. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-09 01:11:40 PM  
Hi FARK. It's time for another edition of GOOD IDEA, BAD IDEA.

GOOD IDEA:

"Hey, these SuperPACs are secretive, and neither I nor anyone else has any idea where the money goes..."


BAD IDEA:

"...so let's cut out the middleman because I want to give Brinks Trucks full of cash to my candidate and thus give him an unfair money advantage over everyone else!"

THE END.
 
2012-11-09 01:11:42 PM  

LeroyBourne: Reminds me of this d-bag within a group of friends that played texas hold'em one night. I won, and it wasn't even that big of a buy in ($20 iirc), afterwards he pleaded that I give him some of his buy in back and that if he won he would give me some of my money back. I calmly explained to him what 'gambling' meant and if he won I wouldn't have biached.


That reminds me of my first game of poker with some new "friends". My first hand ended with chorus of "Pot it! Pot it! Pot it!" I was broke after about 5 minutes of play. They gave me some of my money back.

I felt like Warf. Some many cards. Such strange games.
 
2012-11-09 01:12:36 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: Bontesla: Aarontology: "We weren't able to buy an election, so now we care"

Go f*ck yourselves.

Yup. This.

[www.hollywoodisburning.com image 201x201]


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-09 01:12:36 PM  
To repeat someone's comment in the Carl Rove day after the election thread. He shouldn't be accepting any rides into the desert or corn fields from his financial backers.

I also found it curious that Stephen Colbert was able to offer 1 Million to teabag Donald Trump a week before the election. Indicating he hardly spent any of it. Though if he needed to pay up for services rendered, I doubt any of the contributors would be upset.
 
2012-11-09 01:13:02 PM  

BMulligan: Would someone who is better at writing funny headlines than I am please submit this story and get it greened? I tried, but my headline was not up to the task. I think it's a cool story, and one that would spark a good conversation.


I'm on it...
 
2012-11-09 01:13:20 PM  

beerrun: "You have no idea of the financial structuring of a lot of these outside groups in terms of how much went to the actual delivery of a message," Friess said, "versus how many dollars were taken off as fees to the people running them."

So just blindly cut them a several million dollar check without doing a little research on the PAC itself.

Pardon me while I HAAAhaaahaaaaahaaaahaaaaahaaaaaa!

/dumbass


That's a savvy investor right there. Prior performance is no guarantee of future success!
 
2012-11-09 01:13:38 PM  

alizeran: [i46.tinypic.com image 470x400]


vegasjessie.files.wordpress.com

/my dad's full time + benefits Big 3 contractor job (that came *back* from India), well, I'm pretty sure that had jack shiat to do with election spending
 
2012-11-09 01:13:40 PM  
Lawdy, lawdy, I do declare I've had too much! Someone fetch my smelling salts, I'm overcome by the vapors of schadenfreude!
 
2012-11-09 01:13:57 PM  
Go ask Turdblossom,
I think he'll know.
 
2012-11-09 01:14:18 PM  
So this guy (and others like him) gave millions of dollars to the PACs to stave-off a few percentage points tax increase? Was he promised returns so huge he'd make the Monopoly Guy look like a Dickensian pauper by comparison if Romney won?
 
2012-11-09 01:15:10 PM  
I'm giddy. Giddy! This week has had nothing but a cavalcade of awesome scrolling past my browser windows.
 
2012-11-09 01:16:00 PM  
Think of it this way, you rich bastards: you could have paid less in taxes and got the same result.

HAW HAW!!
 
2012-11-09 01:16:49 PM  
Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?
 
2012-11-09 01:16:53 PM  
Hey, look! John McCain has another issue to rail against.

/not trolling, but I'm kind of sad he switched on MMA
/oh jeebus what have i done
 
2012-11-09 01:17:06 PM  
I wonder how much their donations helped with the economy? Buying made in America goods such as campaign posters, shirts, buttons, commercials, actors to work in those commercials etc probably boost Obama's employment numbers. The more money they gave, the more they were shooting themselves in the foot.
 
2012-11-09 01:17:15 PM  
From what I know about Superpac money is the person running it can spend the money on absolutely anything he farking wants.
 
2012-11-09 01:17:20 PM  
It's kind of sad that these billionaires have the same "Government is bad unless it helps me!" viewpoint that poor Republicans have of welfare. All that money really doesn't make them a bit smarter.
 
2012-11-09 01:17:26 PM  

Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?


The GOP makes one more Willie Horton ad.

/not obscure.
 
2012-11-09 01:18:31 PM  
Epic. Butthurt. Epic.
 
2012-11-09 01:19:17 PM  
Then buy the damned ads yourself.
 
2012-11-09 01:20:13 PM  
Now is the time for reform. Butt hurt Republicans and level headed dems unite!
 
2012-11-09 01:20:13 PM  

Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?


It stays in the bank account for that candidate or PAC. In the case of PACs, it can be saved until the next election. In the case of candidates, it cannot, but they are allowed to transfer the money into PACs. Usually the extra money for a candidate gets moved to help pay off the debts of other campaigns in the party
 
2012-11-09 01:21:59 PM  

BMulligan: Would someone who is better at writing funny headlines than I am please submit this story and get it greened? I tried, but my headline was not up to the task. I think it's a cool story, and one that would spark a good conversation.


Well, not my best work...and it probably won't go green given the volume of green lights so far today....
 
2012-11-09 01:25:07 PM  
Dear Bitter Billionaires,

Campaigns are not 'investment opportunities'. You wanted the rules changed so you could blow absurd levels of money, hundreds of millions of dollars, on what ultimately amounts to a popularity contest.

This is what you chucklefarks WANTED. Go be self-conscious about a colossal farkup in judgement on your remaining tens, if not millions, of dollars.

Sincerely, the 'not-even-middle-class-according-to-you-dipshiats' of American.
 
2012-11-09 01:25:53 PM  

Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.


I kind of just assumed that was what he was doing.
 
2012-11-09 01:27:08 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?

It stays in the bank account for that candidate or PAC. In the case of PACs, it can be saved until the next election. In the case of candidates, it cannot, but they are allowed to transfer the money into PACs. Usually the extra money for a candidate gets moved to help pay off the debts of other campaigns in the party


Sometimes, the money can be converted to the candidate's own use. For example Palin had a book ghostwritten, then sold copies of "going rogue" at highly inflated prices to her own campaign to recover some money. Candidates can also use PAC money to pay for legal expenses, for example Palin used her own PAC money to pay $50K of expenses to defend herself in the Troopergate incident.
 
2012-11-09 01:27:43 PM  

Notabunny: Nurglitch: It's a free market. Caveat emptor.

First I giggled. Then I had a sad.


I don't believe for a second that Karl Rove "squandered" the 300 million dollars that he conned out of rich idiots. That would imply that he spent it on frivolous things that were of no use to anybody.

I believe, instead, that Karl Rove finds his fat Swiss bank account and harem of young boys to be a very wise use of the money. I am sure he does not consider it squandering at all.
 
2012-11-09 01:27:54 PM  
I wonder if trickle-down resulted from so many billionaires wasting their money?
 
2012-11-09 01:29:55 PM  
cdn.chud.com
 
2012-11-09 01:30:04 PM  

jigger: Then buy the damned ads yourself.


But don't you see, then everyone will know who's actually behind the ad. We can't have our beloved job creators held accountable for the disgusting lies they spread. Why do you hate the job creators?
 
2012-11-09 01:30:48 PM  

Counter_Intelligent: I wonder if trickle-down resulted from so many billionaires wasting their money?


Most media is owned by large groups, so mostly not. A lot of the money just circulated in the 1% sector.
 
2012-11-09 01:31:16 PM  
Alternate Headline: Mr. Freeze Laments Quality of Hired Goons
 
2012-11-09 01:31:47 PM  

Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.


I wonder how many of the PACs Bain "advised"...
 
2012-11-09 01:32:06 PM  

BMulligan: Would someone who is better at writing funny headlines than I am please submit this story and get it greened? I tried, but my headline was not up to the task. I think it's a cool story, and one that would spark a good conversation.


Interesting article. I think it's more applicable to 2008, but certainly shows the extent of the control united business leaders can exercise.
 
2012-11-09 01:32:46 PM  
Stewie Griffin: Ha ha. Oh, this is so good, it just HAS to be fattening.
 
2012-11-09 01:33:52 PM  
We certainly don't want to have more disclosures from SuperPACs. That would be totally wrong.

It really starts putting the lie to "rich people are smarter" when they pull crap like this. Sure, it's nakedly, transparently a ploy to allow buying candidates directly - but why so obvious? Is that the way to go? Are you still reeling from the loss and lashing out?
 
2012-11-09 01:36:07 PM  

Diogenes: Alternate Headline: Mr. Freeze Laments Quality of Hired Goons


Did you lift that off The Onion? That screams The Onion.
 
2012-11-09 01:36:47 PM  

alizeran: [i46.tinypic.com image 470x400]


Did you just submit your comment in pic form? Is this your thing?
 
2012-11-09 01:37:10 PM  

www.dontmindifido.com

 
2012-11-09 01:37:34 PM  

ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.


Yep. I stopped watching/listening to any & all political ads after the 2004 election. Spend all you want, jackasses.
 
2012-11-09 01:38:15 PM  

DarwiOdrade: ModernPrimitive01: Bontesla: Aarontology: "We weren't able to buy an election, so now we care"

Go f*ck yourselves.

Yup. This.

[www.hollywoodisburning.com image 201x201]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]


1x57.com
 
2012-11-09 01:38:40 PM  

that bosnian sniper: A fool and his money...

Go fark yourselves, would-be plutocrats. You wanted the ability to spend near-limitless amounts of money without transparency and accountability to influence a political election, and you got it.


This. So much this.
 
2012-11-09 01:39:59 PM  
How about a hot, steamy cup of go fark yourselves?
 
2012-11-09 01:40:20 PM  

LeroyBourne: Diogenes: Alternate Headline: Mr. Freeze Laments Quality of Hired Goons

Did you lift that off The Onion? That screams The Onion.


No, but it does seem a bit on the low hanging fruit side. But I do take it as a compliment!
 
2012-11-09 01:40:41 PM  

fringedmyotis: ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.

Yep. I stopped watching/listening to any & all political ads after the 2004 election. Spend all you want, jackasses.


It's almost as if these people were so disconnected from reality that they didn't realize how much of the population has DVRs and never watches ANY commercials.
 
2012-11-09 01:43:40 PM  
We thought it was understood that super-citizens would be able to see all of the details of how campaign money is donated and spent. It was only supposed to be the riffraff, the lazy, the idle, the useless scum, the non-job-creators, i.e., the non-billionaires, who were to be told with a truncheon that their role was to STFU and get back to work.

Honestly, we can't imagine how this could not have been understood.

And it's too bad, America, because if we had won, not only would the Romney staffers find their credit cards cancelled, but every single EBT card would be cancelled, every soup kitchen closed, all school loans cut off, and the police would finally have the latitude to protect public order and private property in a way that would let the shiftless idle trust fund hippies know was not compatible with their continued good health.

But now you'll just have to go without that nirvana.
 
2012-11-09 01:44:36 PM  

dr_blasto: fringedmyotis: ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.

Yep. I stopped watching/listening to any & all political ads after the 2004 election. Spend all you want, jackasses.

It's almost as if these people were so disconnected from reality that they didn't realize how much of the population has DVRs and never watches ANY commercials.


I would like to see some hard data on the effectiveness of those ads. If you are swayed by one, regardless of whom you are supporting, you're kinda stoopid.

Same for robocalling. I called campaign offices and told them if I got another call they'd lose my vote.
 
2012-11-09 01:44:56 PM  

Lumpmoose: In TFA, Friess actually wondered "how many dollars were taken off as fees to the people running them". Politicians and the Supreme Court love their political free-speech-cash so much that they've legalized embezzlement with no enforceable paper trail or tax audit.


repeating from an earlier thread:

Renart: This is what's so baffling. It's not surprising they were trying to gull the rubes in the heartland through the press, but the campaign itself seems to have had no interest in gathering objective information about the campaign. Incredible.


A lot of political types working for or with the campaign (Rove for example) made a lot of money during it. In the last days left over funds went toward buying TV ads in PA where there was no hope however the buyers of air time still made their fat commissions. In this election I think the political operators appeared to not only be trying to gull the rubes but also the campaign and the big money donors.

Something I wrote in another thread:

hubiestubert: It is a call to arms, not for message, but for cash. Plain and simple.

Follow the money, kids. Always follow the money...


Many do not realize this but most right wing organizations such as Heritage, Town Hall, etc. have become large money makers with their leaders and sometimes fellows and associate making a very nice living. Remember, in this election Carl Rove did very well for himself by telling the rich what they wanted to hear and pretending it was political analysis and strategy.

This is a result from back in the 1970 a fusion of right-wing organizing and direct mail marketing of consumer health and wealth snake oil.

In the most cynical case these schemes don't really care about the political ideology they are selling, only that they can scare a large population into trusting them so they can be fleeced for money.


from: The Long Con: Mail-order conservatism - by Rick Perlstein

"Subscriber lists to ideological organs are pure gold to the third-party interests who rent them as catchments for potential customers. Who better suits a marketing strategy than a group that voluntarily organizes itself according to their most passionately shared beliefs?"

Typical direct marketing Perlstein would receive after signing up to right wing groups:

"Dear Reader, I'm going to tell you something, but you must promise to keep it quiet. You have to understand that the "elite" would not be at all happy with me if they knew what I was about to tell you. That's why we have to tread carefully. You see, while most people are paying attention to the stock market, the banks, brokerages and big institutions have their money somewhere else . . . [in] what I call the hidden money mountain . . . All you have to know is the insider's code (which I'll tell you) and you could make an extra $6,000 every single month."
 
2012-11-09 01:45:40 PM  

Dr Dreidel: We certainly don't want to have more disclosures from SuperPACs. That would be totally wrong.

It really starts putting the lie to "rich people are smarter" when they pull crap like this. Sure, it's nakedly, transparently a ploy to allow buying candidates directly - but why so obvious? Is that the way to go? Are you still reeling from the loss and lashing out?


Yes, I think so. These are not men who are used to spending so much money and getting absolutely nothing in return. They probably honestly view their donations as investments, and that they're guaranteed some sort of return. Indeed, that's probably how Rove sold it to them. Now, they realize they were basically caught on the wrong end of a Ponzi scheme, and they are thoroughly embarrassed and absolutely furious.
 
2012-11-09 01:47:21 PM  
Wait, you mean they want some regulation?
 
2012-11-09 01:48:47 PM  

doyner: BMulligan: Would someone who is better at writing funny headlines than I am please submit this story and get it greened? I tried, but my headline was not up to the task. I think it's a cool story, and one that would spark a good conversation.

Well, not my best work...and it probably won't go green given the volume of green lights so far today....


Thanks - I'll keep my fingers crossed.

qorkfiend: Interesting article. I think it's more applicable to 2008


Maybe. The 1892 election didn't have an incumbent winning re-election, so the comparison certainly isn't perfect.
 
2012-11-09 01:49:18 PM  

DamnYankees: Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.


Call another one, same here

/lulz
//holy crap has this been fun
 
2012-11-09 01:51:26 PM  
I'm sure the invisible hand of the free market will handle this much more efficiently than one size fits all government regulation.
 
2012-11-09 01:53:19 PM  

Diogenes: LeroyBourne: Diogenes: Alternate Headline: Mr. Freeze Laments Quality of Hired Goons

Did you lift that off The Onion? That screams The Onion.

No, but it does seem a bit on the low hanging fruit side. But I do take it as a compliment!


4.bp.blogspot.com
Oh, it was, and who would think these guys would ever let you down? They're totally legit.
 
2012-11-09 01:53:27 PM  
www.sanfranciscosentinel.com

they're coming home...

...and they are going to roost dammit!
 
2012-11-09 01:54:02 PM  

rtaylor92: Please imaginary lord, let the republican butthurt never stop. This has been the greatest 4 day stretch in Fark history


I have gotten shiat for work done this week.
 
2012-11-09 01:55:48 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Wait, you mean they want some regulation?


actually, if you read it, they want even less regulation. essentially they thought that the SC gave them the right to buy off the politicians with a wink-wink. Now they are complaining about the rules that are in the way and want to give a check right to their candidate of choice. so, blatant beyond blatant payoffs.
 
2012-11-09 01:55:54 PM  
www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com

us.123rf.com

www.awesomestories.com

/Hope they kept the receipt
 
2012-11-09 01:58:50 PM  

swankywanky: CapeFearCadaver: Wait, you mean they want some regulation?

actually, if you read it, they want even less regulation. essentially they thought that the SC gave them the right to buy off the politicians with a wink-wink. Now they are complaining about the rules that are in the way and want to give a check right to their candidate of choice. so, blatant beyond blatant payoffs.


Ah, even more beautiful. Here's to hoping for the beginning of the end, so I say: Cheers!

/what, I'm supposed to actually RTFAs now?!
 
2012-11-09 02:03:21 PM  
So basically you gave a giant pile of money to a man who looked like a ham wearing glasses and you were told you were buying access to the winning candidate and then he lost and your money appears to have gone down the tubes and the only person who is going to get anything out of this is the guy who brokered the transactions (and the advertisers he gave a lot of it to)
 
2012-11-09 02:04:25 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: /what, I'm supposed to actually RTFAs now?!


how can one keep up? there's a new batch of butthurt coming out every hour for the past three days!

I am so looking forward to going home for Thanksgiving to give some of the hard corr teabagger in-laws a rash of shiate!
 
2012-11-09 02:04:35 PM  

monoski: So basically you gave a giant pile of money to a man who looked like a ham wearing glasses and you were told you were buying access to the winning candidate and then he lost and your money appears to have gone down the tubes and the only person who is going to get anything out of this is the guy who brokered the transactions (and the advertisers he gave a lot of it to)


Sounds a lot like how those guys made their money in the first place.
 
2012-11-09 02:06:06 PM  

Jupiter's Thunder: [www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com image 300x364]

[us.123rf.com image 400x300]

[www.awesomestories.com image 800x933]

/Hope they kept the receipt


MoneyReOldguy

GOOD ONE!
 
2012-11-09 02:08:56 PM  
SuperPACS = scams

Karl Rove = big-time con man

\ha ha
 
2012-11-09 02:16:03 PM  

Rwa2play: DamnYankees: Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.

Call another one, same here

/lulz
//holy crap has this been fun


So, what we're looking at here is basically the exact opposite of a waahmbulance. Any ideas for a good term?
 
2012-11-09 02:17:07 PM  

alizeran: [i46.tinypic.com image 470x400]


the shiat was outsourced, though. remember the story about the Filipino call centers doing the robocalls?
 
2012-11-09 02:19:19 PM  
I've always said that you need a certain amount of money to be a viable contender in an election, but once you spend more than that, each additional dollar buys fewer and fewer votes-at some point there might even be a backlash and spending more money loses you votes as people start to get sick of hearing your ads constantly.

Plus, money spent by outside groups is always less effective than from the campaigns themselves. The message is muddled due to the lack of coordination, plus the campaign gets better ad rates under the law.

At this point, money isn't really a problem for either side, in almost any election. Everybody has plenty of money, at least to reach the viability threshold I mentioned.
 
2012-11-09 02:20:15 PM  

theorellior: Rwa2play: DamnYankees: Someone call 9-1-1. I'm officially overdosing.

Call another one, same here

/lulz
//holy crap has this been fun

So, what we're looking at here is basically the exact opposite of a waahmbulance. Any ideas for a good term?


Road to awesomesause?
 
2012-11-09 02:23:56 PM  
It just keeps coming and coming. This is the best election ever.
 
2012-11-09 02:29:39 PM  
"We want to change a part of the law so we can see what they did with the money, but at the same time, we'd also like to keep the part of the law that says that they don't have to disclose who that money came from."

Well, you're a bunch of rich bastards and the Supreme Court has five assholes on it, so yeah, we can probably get this done for you.
 
2012-11-09 02:37:33 PM  
I feel so bad for those poor billionaahahahahah no.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-09 02:41:06 PM  

fringedmyotis: ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.

Yep. I stopped watching/listening to any & all political ads after the 2004 election. Spend all you want, jackasses.


Hell I waited weeks to turn in my absentee ballot just so I could recycle the 1-6 pieces of lit sent to my house every day, 95% of it conservative crap.

In SEPTEMBER we told an Obama knocker we were all straiggt Obama. We all have decent showing up to the poll records for being under 30. After that they diverted resources *elsewhere*. We got Romney lit up until ELECTION DAY.

Not watching cable or broadcast TV ruled though.
 
2012-11-09 02:41:44 PM  
Hey, Karl, see if you can figure out what these rich people all have in common.

Robert Blake, John Huston, Don King, William S. Burroughs, Ted Kennedy, Laura Bush, Howard Hughes, Phil Spector, Jayson Williams...
 
2012-11-09 02:43:40 PM  

Wadded Beef: Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?

The GOP makes one more Willie Horton ad.

/not obscure.


you've seen one willie horton, you've seen them all

and everywhere I go!

/lived outside of dc, traveled the beltway, but didn't have a black van.
 
2012-11-09 02:47:03 PM  
If a report I heard today is correct the level of FAIL from the GOP super-PACS was truly epic, according to one article I read Rove's super-pac supported the winning candiate only 6% of the time.

I remeber years ago there were articles about Minor GOP figures like Linda Chavez making a living running phony pacs that spent less than 5% of what they earned on actual poltical activities , and sleazy GOP direct mail fundraising outfits that raised money nationally for uber-long shot candidates running against nationally famous Dems (like say Pelosi) who were in utterly safe districts, and then charging the candidate a fee of 90% of the money raised.

It seems like Crossroads may be this same scam taken to a brand new level
 
2012-11-09 02:51:49 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: They want to change the rules because their guy lost. If Romney had won, more laws would have been repealed and the debates would have turned into money fights.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-09 02:52:25 PM  

Muta: ToxicMunkee: Don't worry, Butthurt Billionaire, your money was spent as intended: funding nonstop negative political ads I either muted or fast-forwarded through.

This thread works well with the 'community organizer' thread. I don't think a billionaire wants to pay for a well organized ground game. They want to spend their money and see the results. You can't see thousands of dedicated individuals walking door to door through thousands of neighborhoods so a billionaire doesn't want to spend money on that. They want comercials that echo their views that they can watch. The result are commercials with actors playing the part of a mother acting concerned that a billionaire's taxes might increase.


Ha! That's funny to think about. Rich conservatives basically just paid $2billion to have liberal actors pretend to be conservative on tv, then vote for Obama.
 
2012-11-09 02:54:29 PM  
Short answer: they did.
Long answer: TTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDD
 
2012-11-09 03:04:54 PM  

Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.


...goddamnit, never before have I wanted to believe a conspiracy theory this much...
 
2012-11-09 03:07:43 PM  

Githerax: Question: What happens to the unspent money when the election is over?


What unspent money?

I've been saying to Mrs Clam all along that everyone involved in these things is snagging their percentage of every dollar that goes past and laughing like hyenas. If you think there's gonna be a nickle left in those accounts, you're delusional.
 
2012-11-09 03:17:21 PM  

QU!RK1019: Jupiter's Thunder: [www.girlsjustwannahavefunds.com image 300x364]

[us.123rf.com image 400x300]

[www.awesomestories.com image 800x933]

/Hope they kept the receipt

MoneyReOldguy

GOOD ONE!


/*snerk*
 
2012-11-09 03:26:11 PM  
Oh, there will be lawsuits. And I will cackle with glee.
 
2012-11-09 03:32:20 PM  

PsiChick: Dr.Zom: Wouldn't it be funny if Romney just sucked all the assets out of the Republican party and left the shell for the vultures?

I think that would be funny.

...goddamnit, never before have I wanted to believe a conspiracy theory this much...


That would at least suggest that he was still a competent businessman. As it is he appears to have been clueless as hell about his real chances and who wants a doofus that dense as President?
 
2012-11-09 03:51:31 PM  
Watching these billionaires call for regulation to protect the fidelity of their political investments is priceless. I guess the free market is good enough for them when they're huckstering billions of dollars from it, but then all of a sudden when they realized they were the sucker getting hosed by the huckster Karl Rove, it's time for a little government intervention.
 
2012-11-09 03:53:17 PM  
So what is he asking for? Outright buying of candidates? Government regulation of super-pacs? Maybe an aspirin will help his butthurt.
 
2012-11-09 04:08:05 PM  

swankywanky: CapeFearCadaver: /what, I'm supposed to actually RTFAs now?!

how can one keep up? there's a new batch of butthurt coming out every hour for the past three days!

I am so looking forward to going home for Thanksgiving to give some of the hard corr teabagger in-laws a rash of shiate!


I'm spending thanksgiving with the sane side of my family this year. I almost wish I was visiting the wingnuts this time (almost).
 
2012-11-09 04:15:59 PM  

Graffito: swankywanky: CapeFearCadaver: /what, I'm supposed to actually RTFAs now?!

how can one keep up? there's a new batch of butthurt coming out every hour for the past three days!

I am so looking forward to going home for Thanksgiving to give some of the hard corr teabagger in-laws a rash of shiate!

I'm spending thanksgiving with the sane side of my family this year. I almost wish I was visiting the wingnuts this time (almost).


fark that shiat. I'm having Thanksgiving this year (and last year was the same) at my house with other 'miscreants' whose families have effectively disowned them for being adults and not following them lock-step on a wide rage of topics.

/we're all in our early/mid-thirties, grounding us doesn't work anymore
 
2012-11-09 04:54:52 PM  

Graffito: So what is he asking for? Outright buying of candidates? Government regulation of super-pacs? Maybe an aspirin will help his butthurt.


Their money could have been used far, far, far more effectively. I might have said this in this thread already, but I'm registered Independent and as of 08 the only data the Dems had on me was that my Mom said I "might vote Obama" (which was stupid, since I was working for a Dem candidate and coordinating with the Obama campaign, but I digress). This year a nice teacher from down the street canvassed our house. We told her we were all voting for Obama, she knew we were very reliable voters... and we got absolutely nothing else. They effectively diverted resources.

We got our last Romney mailer on election day (after we came home from school, work, and two of us from working at voting locations all night).

It's hard to spend money to motivate people to get out and knock (especially since we have no landline), but hell, you can pay people money to see who has already early voted or absentee voted - just involves getting daily lists from city clerks and adding them to your database - and NOT TARGET THEM. That's public record. The fact that all 4 of us signed a pro-union petition - TWICE - was public record. But I was kind of happy they were wasting money on me.

I know money isn't the same if you have a lot of it - but there was a LOT of money spent. They're just gonna biatch now, and not blame themselves for not say paying someone to make sure the operations were running smoothly...

Oh yeah. That does sound about right for Republicans this year.

CapeFearCadaver: fark that shiat. I'm having Thanksgiving this year (and last year was the same) at my house with other 'miscreants' whose families have effectively disowned them for being adults and not following them lock-step on a wide rage of topics.

/we're all in our early/mid-thirties, grounding us doesn't work anymore


Jesus Christ.

I'm not a parent, and I'm lucky that of the two conservatives in my family one is a quiet probably fiscal one and the other has no kids (and neither are related to me by blood). But I really thought this book was universal, except for a minority of douchebag human beings who should never have been called "parents" anyway... and the fact that you can have a whole gathering of people makes me happy you'll have company but f--king depressed that you're gonna have a gathering in the first place.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-11-09 04:59:19 PM  
Don't you see: this was just Karl Rove's version of, "The Producers!"

Step 1: We find the worst play ever written possible candidate.
Step 2: We hire the worst director in town campaign staff imaginable.
Step 3: We raise two four hundred million dollars. ... One for me, one for you. There's a lot of little old ladies rich racist crazies out there!
Step 4: We hire the worst actors in New York and open on Broadway candidates and before you can say
Step 5: We close on Broadway, take our two four hundred million, and go to Rio.
 
2012-11-09 05:07:22 PM  

zetar: Don't you see: this was just Karl Rove's version of, "The Producers!"

Step 1: We find the worst play ever written possible candidate.
Step 2: We hire the worst director in town campaign staff imaginable.
Step 3: We raise two four hundred million dollars. ... One for me, one for you. There's a lot of little old ladies rich racist crazies out there!
Step 4: We hire the worst actors in New York and open on Broadway candidates and before you can say
Step 5: We close on Broadway, take our two four hundred million, and go to Rio.


FYI, I'm totally stealing this.
 
2012-11-09 05:10:50 PM  
They should try and change the laws now that they suddenly care. Maybe they can form a SuperPAC to get that achieved.
 
2012-11-09 05:47:44 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: CapeFearCadaver: fark that shiat. I'm having Thanksgiving this year (and last year was the same) at my house with other 'miscreants' whose families have effectively disowned them for being adults and not following them lock-step on a wide rage of topics.

/we're all in our early/mid-thirties, grounding us doesn't work anymore

Jesus Christ.

I'm not a parent, and I'm lucky that of the two conservatives in my family one is a quiet probably fiscal one and the other has no kids (and neither are related to me by blood). But I really thought this book was universal, except for a minority of douchebag human beings who should never have been called "parents" anyway... and the fact that you can have a whole gathering of people makes me happy you'll have company but f--king depressed that you're gonna have a gathering in the first place.


We live in NC. Could almost be enough of an excuse... Of those coming to my house we have a gay man and his partner (his partner's family lives across the country), a partial Japanese woman and her husband whose father is exceedingly vocal about his racism (hatred) towards his own family (her husband's family has all passed), an argumentative bleeding heart liberal (who I love dearly, but, he is argumentative), a couple whose family lives across the country (who are awesome!) and they simply can't afford to go see them, and me - who dared to 'vote with her vagina' this year and last year I made the mistake of not allowing my ex to abuse/control me further. That one got so bad that the DA had to actively bar my parents from the courthouse during the ex's trial.

Still love them. We all do. Yet we have all bent over backwards trying to please them, mend things - to no avail... it's just not worth the turmoil any longer. It sucks, but, hey...
 
2012-11-09 08:47:00 PM  
It's ... its like rain on your wedding day!
 
2012-11-09 09:49:31 PM  
Thus ye olde phrase,
"Don't buy a pig in a polk"

Or don't poll a pig...

/whatever.
 
2012-11-09 10:20:46 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Still love them. We all do. Yet we have all bent over backwards trying to please them, mend things - to no avail... it's just not worth the turmoil any longer. It sucks, but, hey...


I more meant that your parents couldn't be civil enough that you could still spend Thanksgiving with them, cause even if you have different views on certain thing you're still effing family.

If it was your decision to avoid the storm, then it's a bit different. That you'd have to expect a storm still sucks.
 
2012-11-09 11:41:52 PM  
*ahem*

Fark you.
 
2012-11-09 11:55:02 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: the shiat was outsourced, though. remember the story about the Filipino call centers doing the robocalls?


They had Filipino robots?
 
2012-11-10 12:37:52 AM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Karma's a biatch, biatch!
 
2012-11-10 12:47:40 AM  

Cinaed: Dear Bitter Billionaires,

Campaigns are not 'investment opportunities'. You wanted the rules changed so you could blow absurd levels of money, hundreds of millions of dollars, on what ultimately amounts to a popularity contest.

This is what you chucklefarks WANTED. Go be self-conscious about a colossal farkup in judgement on your remaining tens, if not millions, of dollars.

Sincerely, the 'not-even-middle-class-according-to-you-dipshiats' of American.


I'm stealing that.
 
2012-11-10 03:47:37 AM  

The Larch: Notabunny: Nurglitch: It's a free market. Caveat emptor.

First I giggled. Then I had a sad.

I don't believe for a second that Karl Rove "squandered" the 300 million dollars that he conned out of rich idiots. That would imply that he spent it on frivolous things that were of no use to anybody.

I believe, instead, that Karl Rove finds his fat Swiss bank account and harem of young boys to be a very wise use of the money. I am sure he does not consider it squandering at all.


4.bp.blogspot.com

You've been a naughty naughty boy Karl
 
2012-11-10 07:43:08 AM  
Let me check my empathy-o-meter.... Nope, not even a twitch.
 
2012-11-11 03:41:14 AM  
To the rich assholes who thought they could buy this election: want to talk transparency? Let's start with disclosure of all the major and minor campaign and SuperPac donors for this election cycle, with amounts, names, addresses, candidates, propositions supported and organizations listed. Break the list down to at least the county race level by state..

Only then do you get to find out who boned you into giving your millions to lost causes and loser candidates.
Transparency all the way through... you don't get to choose.
 
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