Damnhippyfreak: On a side note, it's more of a argument from incredulity than an ad hominem ;)
Honest Bender: Dr Dreidel: Do we?Well, we in the non-ignorant group do... I guess you can be willfully ignorant if you want but it really speaks poorly of you.
WhippingBoy: Oh feminists! You were once a much-needed avenue for important social justice reforms. Now you're just a pathetic self-parody who stagger around comically for my amusement!
draypresct: The author is debating a strawman feminist, not a real person. Less interesting than watching Clint Eastwood debate a chair.
RoyBatty: Damnhippyfreak: About half way through the documentary, skimming the rest, and I think you're misrepresenting it so far. Is there a specific bit of the documentary that gave you the impression you hold? It's not apparent so far. Maybe you're conflating the idea put forward by some in the documentary that there is no biological basis for differences in cognition and behavior with the idea that there are no differences whatsoever between the sexes? Even the guy who talks about no differences between male and female brains acknowledges physical differences.Maybe it depends on what you think I am claiming.
RoyBatty: t3knomanser: RoyBatty: It depends on who is speaking, and when, but over the years many feminists, and feminist scholars, feminist ideology trained politicians have asserted exactly that there are no differences.No they haven't. For example, no one has ever claimed that men can get pregnant. Except Danny Devito.Seriously, I provided you a link of Norwegian scientists doing exactly that, please don't bother watching it, or responding to it, just insert some irrelevant whargarrbl.
RoyBatty: I was only trying to refute Chiad's point that No one on the planet thinks that there are no differences between men and women. The entire point of the equal rights movement is that it isn't okay to treat half the population as less because of those differences
RoyBatty: Yes, it is certainly true that everyone agrees there are X and Y chromosomes and they have a great deal of importance. It is not true that historically (or now) many feminist ideologues have not set forth a theory that apart from the most basic biological differences, there are no other differences between men and women. And it's clear that in the case of nature vs. nurture, that documentary shows many examples of that.
RoyBatty: Instead of arguing No True Scotsman, perhaps a better argument would acknowledge as I did that it depends on who and when you ask. it depends on who is speaking, and when, but over the years many feminists, and feminist scholars, feminist ideology trained politicians have asserted exactly that there are no differences.Just as Chiad is getting real tired of people deliberately misunderstanding things., it's also tiring to come up against No True Scotsman arguments that fly in the face of known history.
Myria: I wonder what this means for us transgender people. Does my body have female immune responses? If so, was that because of having a female brain structure, or because of the hormones I'm taking?
IrishFarmer: The problem truly comes in when you realize that most feminists are the ones that are spewing nonsense. Not the minority.
Chiad: You can find a few people asserting nonsense anywhere. Calling those people Feminists is like calling bigfoot hunters zoologists.
RoyBatty: It depends on who is speaking, and when, but over the years many feminists, and feminist scholars, feminist ideology trained politicians have asserted exactly that there are no differences.Here is an amusing, interesting Norwegian documentary that documents these assertions in Norwegian society today. It's 38 minutes and seeks to explain how in Norway, one of the most feminist oriented, egalitarian societies, old stereotypes regarding preferences and professions seem stronger than ever.Brainwash: The Gender Equality Paradox - Documentary NRK - 2011
tortilla burger: While correct, TFA is a solution looking for a problem. I don't think feminists honestly believe that there aren't any biological differences between men and women.
RoyBatty: I provided you a link of Norwegian scientists doing exactly that,
tortilla burger: drive a lot of the behavior differences between men and women.
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