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(CNN)   Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of Tea Party Patriots, pinned the election loss on "a weak, moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party"   (cnn.com) divider line 90
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2012-11-09 09:14:01 AM
Yeah, go further to the right.

That totally won't hurt you in the future.
 
2012-11-09 09:15:12 AM

Aarontology: Yeah, go further to the right.

That totally won't hurt you in the future.


Done in one.
 
2012-11-09 09:20:06 AM
If it's a choice between these creatures having their way with America, and their destroying the GOP, I'm afraid I'll have to opt for the latter.
 
2012-11-09 09:20:13 AM

Aarontology: Yeah, go further to the right.

That totally won't hurt you in the future.


Yes. DO IT! We want you to. Tell us again about how rape-babies are God's gift.
 
2012-11-09 09:20:59 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com 

carry on lady
 
2012-11-09 09:21:59 AM

Aarontology: Yeah, go further to the right.

That totally won't hurt you in the future.


If they keep moving right, won't they eventually end up left?
 
2012-11-09 09:22:36 AM
It's time for the GOP to nominate Real Conservatives.

Akin/Mourdock 2016

They're coming whether you like it or not.
 
2012-11-09 09:22:49 AM
As a Lincoln Republican (wait, we still have those? Yes, Virginia, we do still have socially liberal republicans) living in Liberal Bastion Massachusetts who went out and helped with the Warren campaign and was (and still am) a Jon Huntsman supporter, I agree with the other Republicans here. The party is not what the party should be. We are no longer a party of fiscally conservative moderates to counter the fiscally liberal moderates of the Democratic party.

Our party is being strangled by the radical fringe because we let them, because we thought we needed that shot in the arm that a heroin junkie thinks they need that first time they try it. Rehab is gonna be tough and the shakes and chills and vomiting up will be brutal but we need to kick the habit of going to the radicals when we lose or we're never going to get back on course where moderates like me can really vote for anyone running under your flag in good conscience.

Look at Scott Brown. He ran originally as a moderate, independent Republican, then you stuck your claws in him and convinced him that not only should he take that first hit of Fringe-arific ecstasy, but you wouldn't let him go when he tried to run and you sucked him down the rabbit hole. Your guys had him go negative in atomic fashion when it first appeared that the people weren't buying what you were peddling anymore. So when the national republicans went nuclear, you made him go nuclear too. You dragged him down to your levels and it made him sickly in the eyes of his former supporters, and we saw just what we could have with Warren, a bright-eyed, bushy tailed professor who wanted to support the little guy, and we realized that we needed to help those that needed it instead of take a swig from the Randian hits you were doling out.

You called us ingrates for leaving you, but you know what. We were those abused housewives that finally said "fark you, we're gone" and packed up and left you for a better person. Are we sad we left you? In the back of our mind, we may miss you, we may hope you're doing well but mostly, we hope you're finally getting the help that you needed for so long that we just couldn't provide anymore. We wish you well but you need to change your tone if you ever hope to get people like us back.

Until then, we're gonna keep doinking the mailman that treated us with concern when he saw our bruises.

Yours,
Moderate Republicans

/seriously, stop thinking you need to go right, my post is getting old
 
2012-11-09 09:23:30 AM
Listening to Republicans try to explain what went wrong in their worse-than-expected election thumping reveals a party struggling to define itself amid continuing change in the nation it seeks to lead.

Republicans have so internalized the faith-not-facts ethos of the religious right, the one that leads them to reject evolution and climate change, that they are incapable of understanding what happened on Tuesday.
 
2012-11-09 09:23:38 AM
Hrm. So they're going to pile more extremism on top of extremism and further marginalize themselves.

The whole world called it.
 
2012-11-09 09:24:22 AM
So let me get this straight. You teabagging idiots couldn't even muster enough support within the far-right republican party to prevent Mitt Romney from taking the nomination away from your crazy-ass favorites Bachmann and Gingrich, and you think one of them would have performed better among moderate independents? The same moderate independents who told Allen West, Richard Mourdock and John Tester to go suck an egg?

You farkers are completely delusional.
 
2012-11-09 09:24:28 AM
She's correct on everything but the "moderate" part
 
2012-11-09 09:26:05 AM
I like how all the Tea Party candidates that lost their elections must've been weak and moderate then.
 
2012-11-09 09:26:16 AM

imontheinternet: It's time for the GOP to nominate Real Conservatives.

Akin/Mourdock 2016

They're coming whether you like it or not.


/every sperm is sacred?
 
2012-11-09 09:26:20 AM
What mental issue(s) do these folks have when they consistently blame their electoral losses on not being "conservative" enough? Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results is absolute insanity! That being said, keep it up, GOP'ers. America needs you to become irrelevant.
 
2012-11-09 09:26:39 AM
Well, they should have perhaps biatched back after the Iowa primary/caucus was called for Mitt when Santorum actually won.

But no, they let Mitt bully and buy his way to the nomination.

I love that they blame Obama for the negative campaigning, when some of Mitt's biggest attackers and criticizers were his primary opponents.

And how the hell did he get an NRA endorsement after signing an assault weapons ban! I know, the "R" is all they want to see at the NRA anymore (which isn't entirely true, my state rep is a Democrat with an A+ rating and got their endorsement)
 
2012-11-09 09:27:13 AM
I thought Republican Primary voters picked this guy from a host of Tea Party wackadoodles who didn't make the cut. Better start purging more moderate Republicans from the ranks then.
 
2012-11-09 09:27:19 AM
These go to eleven.
 
2012-11-09 09:27:29 AM
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2012-11-09 09:27:45 AM
A movement founded in anger, forged by anger, brought to the fore by anger, steeped in midterm election anger, emboldened by midterm election wins to be angrier, and defined by anger will not suddenly decide to be nice after losing.

They'll continue being angry. It's all they have.

// they certainly don't have any Senate votes to make
 
2012-11-09 09:27:50 AM
Yes. The reason the country elected the "liberal" is because your guy wasn't conservative enough. That's exactly it.
 
Bf+
2012-11-09 09:28:28 AM
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stop.don't.come back.
 
2012-11-09 09:28:41 AM
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I love you Jenny!
 
2012-11-09 09:28:52 AM
hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!
 
2012-11-09 09:30:04 AM
Interesting how "retiring" repubs are the only ones who can be counted on to make any sense.
 
2012-11-09 09:30:57 AM
Tell me about it, I heard from a fair and balanced source that confirmed if you muted the TV Mitt and Co. won that debate....
 
2012-11-09 09:30:59 AM
Yes, please kick all of moderates out of the party and go full retard.
 
2012-11-09 09:31:31 AM
Go ahead, keep tea bagging away lady. The Senate became less conservative and the future SCOTUS will become less conservative thanks to your tea bagging efforts.
 
2012-11-09 09:32:22 AM

theknuckler_33: hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!


There was one establishment candidate while those 3 split the vote.
 
2012-11-09 09:33:58 AM

Saiga410: theknuckler_33: hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!

There was one establishment candidate while those 3 split the nutjob vote.

 
2012-11-09 09:35:03 AM
I realize Fark is not an accurate representation of the US at large but if I've seen one thing from these threads the past few months is that there is a significant number of Republican voters (past) that have finally had to throw in the towel and say "fark it, I'm out.... call me when batshiat crazy has moved out of the house...."

Not once have I seen someone post that they have been drawn in to the GOP by the recent "changes" and that they're happy they made the switch.

The GOP is not only facing a demographics time bomb but they've probably alienated at least 20% of their former base (including me).
 
2012-11-09 09:35:04 AM

Saiga410: theknuckler_33: hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!

There was one establishment candidate while those 3 split the vote.


Which of those three do you think would have been a better candidate than Romney?
 
2012-11-09 09:37:43 AM

Wellon Dowd: Republicans have so internalized the faith-not-facts ethos of the religious right, the one that leads them to reject evolution and climate change, that they are incapable of understanding what happened on Tuesday.


Bingo. They ran a bishop for president, reject fact checking as partisan and view the world through the chorus of Fox and AM talk radio. They struggle to come to terms with a country in which Protestant versus Catholic is no longer the most important indicator of presidential character. Electing a "Nigerian Marxist" who is neither must be catastrophic to their world view. 
Teahadists is a fair term.
 
2012-11-09 09:37:59 AM

meat0918: And how the hell did he get an NRA endorsement after signing an assault weapons ban! I know, the "R" is all they want to see at the NRA anymore (which isn't entirely true, my state rep is a Democrat with an A+ rating and got their endorsement)


When was the last time the NRA gave a national-office Democrat an A+? (I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing before 1990).
When was the last time the NRA gave a prominent national-office Democrat an A+?
 
2012-11-09 09:38:29 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Saiga410: theknuckler_33: hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!

There was one establishment candidate while those 3 split the vote.

Which of those three do you think would have been a better candidate than Romney?


I was for Huntsman or Johnson. Just answer the dumb question by the previous commenter
 
2012-11-09 09:38:54 AM
She's right about "weak" and "hand-picked by Beltway elites and country club establishment"...
 
2012-11-09 09:39:00 AM
looking at the headlines this morning I get the feeling the GOP is starting to unravel.

that's a shame
 
2012-11-09 09:39:07 AM

Dr Dreidel: meat0918: And how the hell did he get an NRA endorsement after signing an assault weapons ban! I know, the "R" is all they want to see at the NRA anymore (which isn't entirely true, my state rep is a Democrat with an A+ rating and got their endorsement)

When was the last time the NRA gave a national-office Democrat an A+? (I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing before 1990).
When was the last time the NRA gave a prominent national-office Democrat an A+?


Baucus, 2008 Link
 
2012-11-09 09:39:37 AM

Fizpez: I realize Fark is not an accurate representation of the US at large but if I've seen one thing from these threads the past few months is that there is a significant number of Republican voters (past) that have finally had to throw in the towel and say "fark it, I'm out.... call me when batshiat crazy has moved out of the house...."

Not once have I seen someone post that they have been drawn in to the GOP by the recent "changes" and that they're happy they made the switch.

The GOP is not only facing a demographics time bomb but they've probably alienated at least 20% of their former base (including me).


Like I said upthread, we're kinda the abused housewife that said "fark it, I'm done" and went to go doink the mailman.

They lost most of us and it's gonna be a bit before we're willing to try again

/still working on getting my father to realize this shiat
 
2012-11-09 09:39:48 AM

Saiga410: Philip Francis Queeg: Saiga410: theknuckler_33: hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!

There was one establishment candidate while those 3 split the vote.

Which of those three do you think would have been a better candidate than Romney?

I was for Huntsman or Johnson. Just answering the dumb question by the previous commenter


ftfm
 
2012-11-09 09:42:31 AM
I'm gonna post this one more time ...
dailydish.typepad.com
 
2012-11-09 09:42:42 AM

Saiga410: theknuckler_33: hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country club establishment wing of the Republican Party

Makes you wonder how he kept winning those state primaries against the likes of Santorum, Gingrich, and Bachman. Damn those Beltway elites and country club establishment folks in the Republican party!!

There was one establishment candidate while those 3 split the vote.


So that means people didn't vote for Romney? WTF?
 
2012-11-09 09:46:51 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The same moderate independents who told Allen West, Richard Mourdock and John Tester to go suck an egg?


Tester is a Democrat, who won reelection. You must be thinking of someone else.
 
2012-11-09 09:47:33 AM

neenerist: Bingo. They ran a bishop for president, reject fact checking as partisan and view the world through the chorus of Fox and AM talk radio.


"We will not be dictated by fact-checkers" line was more true than we first suspected. Specifically, polling data.
 
2012-11-09 09:48:40 AM
Hand picked by the establishment.

Right. So I guess that getting overwhelming popular support in the primaries makes him "hand picked by the establishment,"

The GOP electorate picked Romney. And they did it because most of them aren't batshiat crazy enough to think that Santorum, Bachmann, or any of the others were viable candidates.
The problem that the GOP faces is that their voters are not really as super crazy conservative as they'd like to think. Their voters are closer to the middle, just like most of the Democrat voters.

But you go ahead keep on clamoring for purity and extremism and blaming everyone but yourselves.
 
2012-11-09 09:50:10 AM
Doubtless she would have preferred a fruitcake like Mourdock.
 
2012-11-09 09:51:20 AM

Bacontastesgood: Tester is a Democrat, who won reelection. You must be thinking of someone else.


Derrrr... sorry, John Koster.
 
2012-11-09 09:52:02 AM

Fizpez: I realize Fark is not an accurate representation of the US at large but if I've seen one thing from these threads the past few months is that there is a significant number of Republican voters (past) that have finally had to throw in the towel and say "fark it, I'm out.... call me when batshiat crazy has moved out of the house...."

Not once have I seen someone post that they have been drawn in to the GOP by the recent "changes" and that they're happy they made the switch.

The GOP is not only facing a demographics time bomb but they've probably alienated at least 20% of their former base (including me).


SOOOOOO MUCH THIS!
 
2012-11-09 09:53:06 AM
I want the media to cover these people morning, noon, and night. I want them to be given every available platform, every rooftop to shout from.

You're damn right the media cost them this election. They stuck microphones in their faces and let them talk.
 
2012-11-09 09:53:31 AM

thurstonxhowell: She's right about "weak" and "hand-picked by Beltway elites and country club establishment"...


I agree... but they still chose to support him (motto was 'anyone but Obama') instead of leaving the GOP, pick their own tea bagger darling, and then go all-in with him/her.
 
2012-11-09 09:54:35 AM

GhostFish: The GOP electorate picked Romney


The Republican primaries had plenty of internal problems suggesting otherwise.
 
2012-11-09 09:56:44 AM

GhostFish: Hand picked by the establishment.

Right. So I guess that getting overwhelming popular support in the primaries makes him "hand picked by the establishment,"

The GOP electorate picked Romney. And they did it because most of them aren't batshiat crazy enough to think that Santorum, Bachmann, or any of the others were viable candidates.
The problem that the GOP faces is that their voters are not really as super crazy conservative as they'd like to think. Their voters are closer to the middle, just like most of the Democrat voters.

But you go ahead keep on clamoring for purity and extremism and blaming everyone but yourselves.


Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on Republican voters being moderate. The fact that Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, and Cain even had a shot provides evidence to the contrary.
 
2012-11-09 10:01:05 AM

neenerist: GhostFish: The GOP electorate picked Romney

The Republican primaries had plenty of internal problems suggesting otherwise.


Popular Vote Totals:

Mitt Romney - 9,947,433
Rick Santorum - 3,816,110
Newt Gingrich - 2,689,771
Ron Paul - 2,017,957
All others below 100,000 each

No, the popular vote isn't the only metric. And yes, there may have been some internal problems in the primary process.
But there should be no question that Romney was the candidate that the GOP voters wanted the most above all the others.
 
2012-11-09 10:01:29 AM
Yes. They should have a Palin/Bachmann ticket for 2016. Libs are afraid of strong conservative women
 
2012-11-09 10:02:41 AM

ramblinwreck: GhostFish: Hand picked by the establishment.

Right. So I guess that getting overwhelming popular support in the primaries makes him "hand picked by the establishment,"

The GOP electorate picked Romney. And they did it because most of them aren't batshiat crazy enough to think that Santorum, Bachmann, or any of the others were viable candidates.
The problem that the GOP faces is that their voters are not really as super crazy conservative as they'd like to think. Their voters are closer to the middle, just like most of the Democrat voters.

But you go ahead keep on clamoring for purity and extremism and blaming everyone but yourselves.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on Republican voters being moderate. The fact that Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, and Cain even had a shot provides evidence to the contrary.


They didn't have a shot. Not really. Just look at the popular vote totals that I just posted.
 
2012-11-09 10:04:32 AM
Next time nominate your own candidate for President. You can then be as influential as the Green Party.
 
2012-11-09 10:05:59 AM
Now I'm just fascinated to see how far to the right the GOP will go. The funny thing is, the Frankenstein monster they created has a life of it's own and there are enough derping Americans to keep the tea party alive in the primaries for at least another cycle. Fox news, Limbaugh and Breitbart's festering corpse have taken control of the GOP's communication wing, so they get to pick who gets nominated and what the policies are.

Until they give up, I'm not sure that the GOP drones will be re-programmable to nominate moderates.
 
2012-11-09 10:06:46 AM

phritz: I'm gonna post this one more time ...
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I think you will need to post this much more often in the coming months/years.
 
2012-11-09 10:07:01 AM

Aarontology: Yeah, go further to the right.

That totally won't hurt you in the future.


The thing that gets me about this is that it basically rests on the idea that the people who were slavering about Obama being an evil socialist-nazi Muslim atheist who was going to end society as we know it didn't come out and vote against him because Romney was too boring.

"Well dear, our children are all about to be enslaved, what say we go out and vote for that Romney fellow to prevent the tyranny of the gay homosexual agenda?"
"Meh."
 
2012-11-09 10:09:32 AM
I'm getting drunk with schadenfreude, I might have to take some time off from the Politics Tab.
 
2012-11-09 10:09:38 AM

meat0918: Dr Dreidel: meat0918: And how the hell did he get an NRA endorsement after signing an assault weapons ban! I know, the "R" is all they want to see at the NRA anymore (which isn't entirely true, my state rep is a Democrat with an A+ rating and got their endorsement)

When was the last time the NRA gave a national-office Democrat an A+? (I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing before 1990).
When was the last time the NRA gave a prominent national-office Democrat an A+?

Baucus, 2008 Link


A Blue Dog, who'd be a Republican in a sane world. Also, "prominent" he ain't (unless you count "infamy" over his near-torpedoing of the Affordable Care Act). So that's a solid answer to the first question, and a possible/probable for the second.

I'm tempted to say he's the exception that proves the rule, but I'm not that naive. If I had the time, I'd do a comparison of who gets what ratings.

On second, thought, why bother? I think it's been made clear that the 'R' in NRA should stand for "Republican".

// should also be backwards, like Toys "R" Us
(// is there an escape entity for that backwards "R"?)
 
2012-11-09 10:13:12 AM
Read in move man's voice:

"In a time of record low taxes and record high debt, a movement will arise that was Taxed Enough Already. A rag-tag group of social conservatives who question the legitimacy of a President (but not because he is black). They will once and for all balance the budget by cutting taxes, slashing women's reproductive health rights and firing big bird."
 
2012-11-09 10:17:40 AM
No, no, dig UP, stupid.
 
2012-11-09 10:20:19 AM
To McAllister, the GOP strategist, it comes down to Republicans needing to get better at communicating their core principles.

"They haven't been able to articulate the conservative Republican message without being insulting," he said.


I wonder if he's considered that this might be because the message is inherently insulting.
 
2012-11-09 10:21:07 AM

Dr Dreidel: meat0918: Dr Dreidel: meat0918: And how the hell did he get an NRA endorsement after signing an assault weapons ban! I know, the "R" is all they want to see at the NRA anymore (which isn't entirely true, my state rep is a Democrat with an A+ rating and got their endorsement)

When was the last time the NRA gave a national-office Democrat an A+? (I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing before 1990).
When was the last time the NRA gave a prominent national-office Democrat an A+?

Baucus, 2008 Link

A Blue Dog, who'd be a Republican in a sane world. Also, "prominent" he ain't (unless you count "infamy" over his near-torpedoing of the Affordable Care Act). So that's a solid answer to the first question, and a possible/probable for the second.

I'm tempted to say he's the exception that proves the rule, but I'm not that naive. If I had the time, I'd do a comparison of who gets what ratings.

On second, thought, why bother? I think it's been made clear that the 'R' in NRA should stand for "Republican".

// should also be backwards, like Toys "R" Us
(// is there an escape entity for that backwards "R"?)


Oh yeah, I don't contest that.

Also, here я 

// & # 1 1 0 3 ; minus the spaces
 
2012-11-09 10:24:18 AM
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2012-11-09 10:34:49 AM
Can someone tell me why a know-nothing nobody from the Atlanta exurbs was ever worth listening to? Did they think she was like Mao leading the peasants out of their cul-de-sacs, taking the 100 minute SUV drive down to conquer Buckhead?
 
2012-11-09 10:38:59 AM

Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]


*snerk*
 
2012-11-09 10:48:44 AM

Dr Dreidel: meat0918: And how the hell did he get an NRA endorsement after signing an assault weapons ban! I know, the "R" is all they want to see at the NRA anymore (which isn't entirely true, my state rep is a Democrat with an A+ rating and got their endorsement)

When was the last time the NRA gave a national-office Democrat an A+? (I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing before 1990).
When was the last time the NRA gave a prominent national-office Democrat an A+?


The NRA has zero to do with gun rights and everything to do with shilling for social conservatives.
 
2012-11-09 10:51:26 AM
Yeah, a more conservative candidate is definitely what the GOP needed. Which is why Democrats like myself were so sad to see Romney get the nomination. You think there was a lot of blue on the electoral map? Just imagine how much more there would have been if someone like Bachman had been the candidate. As a Democrat, I cannot even imagine anything better than the GOP deciding that it needs to become more conservative. Good luck with that.
 
2012-11-09 10:54:44 AM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Yeah, a more conservative candidate is definitely what the GOP needed. Which is why Democrats like myself were so sad to see Romney get the nomination. You think there was a lot of blue on the electoral map? Just imagine how much more there would have been if someone like Bachman had been the candidate. As a Democrat, I cannot even imagine anything better than the GOP deciding that it needs to become more conservative. Good luck with that.


LOL exactly, why do you think Romney went all moderate at the debates? He knew he couldn't win on the GOP platform, he had to win on the center platform that the country mostly wants, and then cherrypick issues that fit his agenda, like offering tax cuts to everyone - who said the GOP couldn't also offer rainbows and unicorns?

I hope to God that the conservatives just use this as an excuse to go even more wrecking ball on their party.
 
2012-11-09 10:56:28 AM

zappaisfrank: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 600x485]


That pretty much sums it up.
 
2012-11-09 10:57:15 AM
The Republicans had seriously awful candidates this year. Romney was the most sane of the bunch.

If the Republican party is going to move forward, they need some new blood with new conservative but sane ideas. I'm sure there are some around, but they would seem far too moderate for the Tea Party.
 
2012-11-09 11:00:52 AM

Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]


I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.
 
2012-11-09 11:13:17 AM

AverageJoe77: Aarontology: Yeah, go further to the right.

That totally won't hurt you in the future.

If they keep moving right, won't they eventually end up left?


it wasn't until fedex that delivery companies figured out that trick. these guys will just end up falling off the edge of the world.
 
2012-11-09 11:15:44 AM

paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.


How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?
 
2012-11-09 11:23:34 AM

mrshowrules: paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.

How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?


One of us didn't get that comment.... why?
 
2012-11-09 11:27:07 AM

mrshowrules: paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.

How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?


Funny thing is that the Americans with "America has become more left leaning, so I'm moving to Canada" crap only proves that how racists they are... since they seem fine with the idea of moving to a country that's even more left leaning than America.
 
2012-11-09 11:31:43 AM
Also, Jenny Beth sounds like the name of a cheerleader from a crappy teen dramedy who flips out when her bf tries to get past second base
 
2012-11-09 11:31:52 AM

hugram: mrshowrules: paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.

How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?

Funny thing is that the Americans with "America has become more left leaning, so I'm moving to Canada" crap only proves that how racists they are... since they seem fine with the idea of moving to a country that's even more left leaning than America.


But they know what they're getting into in Canada - hockey and socialism. In America, they were told they lived in a center-right country, and to have the rug pulled out by having center-right Democrats elected president with a split Congress...a man can only be pushed so far.

"When derp gives you potatoes, move north and make poutine." - Reince Priebus
 
2012-11-09 11:32:50 AM

Your Zionist Leader: The NRA has zero to do with gun rights and everything to do with shilling for social conservatives.


I think that they're starting to realize that they more or less won the gun debate and that a lot of liberals have come around to accepting legal ownership and that there are quite a few that actively like owning guns.

So the NRA needs a different focus to remain relevant, and they know damned well that most of their membership is deeply red.
 
2012-11-09 11:37:50 AM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Your Zionist Leader: The NRA has zero to do with gun rights and everything to do with shilling for social conservatives.

I think that they're starting to realize that they more or less won the gun debate and that a lot of liberals have come around to accepting legal ownership and that there are quite a few that actively like owning guns.

So the NRA needs a different focus to remain relevant, and they know damned well that most of their membership is deeply red.


I know, and it's frustrating because if they would focus more effort on educating people about guns and gun safety as opposed to "huuur libral gun grabbers", everyone could benefit
 
2012-11-09 11:40:05 AM

hugram: mrshowrules: paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.

How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?

Funny thing is that the Americans with "America has become more left leaning, so I'm moving to Canada" crap only proves that how racists they are... since they seem fine with the idea of moving to a country that's even more left leaning than America.


It is even more complicated that that. Canada is ranked as having a freer economy than the US despite us having higher taxes, single-payer healthcare and tighter financial sector regulation.

So technically you would be escaping socialism to a more capitalistic country but for reasons completely opposite to Obama's platform.
 
2012-11-09 11:41:14 AM

protectyourlimbs: mrshowrules: paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.

How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?

One of us didn't get that comment.... why?


He said he was moving to Canada in an election night thread.
 
2012-11-09 11:41:53 AM

Fizpez: I realize Fark is not an accurate representation of the US at large but if I've seen one thing from these threads the past few months is that there is a significant number of Republican voters (past) that have finally had to throw in the towel and say "fark it, I'm out.... call me when batshiat crazy has moved out of the house...."

Not once have I seen someone post that they have been drawn in to the GOP by the recent "changes" and that they're happy they made the switch.

The GOP is not only facing a demographics time bomb but they've probably alienated at least 20% of their former base (including me).


Cool.

Come back to reality... we have legal weed now.

IMO, The democrats ARE the conservative party on most issues at this point. What is needed is a complete GOP meltdown, sending them to fringe status, then to the dustbin of history with the Whigs and the Know Nothings, a real conservative party without the fundie nutjob koolaid drinkers is born, and a real liberal party is established.

And if the Republicans keep marginalizing themselves, we just might get it.

/third parties? Eh, maybe.
 
2012-11-09 11:48:49 AM
I'd love to hear her say this IRL and respond with "And yet knowing all this, you still voted for him?"
 
2012-11-09 12:15:43 PM

mrshowrules: protectyourlimbs: mrshowrules: paygun: Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 480x280]

I'm gonna get a hell of a lot of mileage out of that one.

How's your immigration application to Canada coming along?

One of us didn't get that comment.... why?

He said he was moving to Canada in an election night thread.


Thanks! For some reason it was eating at me, now I know it went over my head for a reason other than me I feel complete :)
 
2012-11-09 01:31:37 PM
Jenny, you have a point. People respond to strong, right-wing tea party candidates. Look at Allen West's landslide re-election.
 
2012-11-09 04:40:20 PM

FirstNationalBastard: IMO, The democrats ARE the conservative party on most issues at this point. What is needed is a complete GOP meltdown, sending them to fringe status, then to the dustbin of history with the Whigs and the Know Nothings, a real conservative party without the fundie nutjob koolaid drinkers is born, and a real liberal party is established.

And if the Republicans keep marginalizing themselves, we just might get it.

/third parties? Eh, maybe.


You know, if the Republicans can actually marginalize themselves enough in the next four years, we could see the rise of a far left party to push a more progressive agenda. A lot of Democrats I know actually lined up with Stein slightly better than Obama on those pick-your-president survey things. If I wasn't so worried about Romney getting in, I probably would've voted for Stein this go around. And in my local, gerrymandered-to-hell district races, I would've definitely voted green if there'd been one on the ballot.
 
2012-11-10 05:30:40 PM
The election showed us once again that when people show up the GOP loses. They are aware of it, that's why the rely on caging efforts to reduce the turnout. Reducing competition has been their primary goal since 2010.

This is not a conservative nation and never has been. This is a center-left nation.
 
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