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(The Atlantic)   While Republicans were mocking Barack Obama for being a community organizer, he was putting those skills to use building a 21st Century campaign machine   (theatlantic.com) divider line 111
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2012-11-09 02:20:04 PM  

udhq: I think the real story of this campaign is how Citizens United seems to have backfired on the republicans. They raised over $2 billion, put most if it into media, and it just seemed to make people disengage. The ground game beat the air game.

The right is going to have to come up with some kind of an answer for the grass roots, or they are going to be electorally dead in the water going forward. Traditionally, they have struggled with finding a way of doing this that doesn't turn off independents (think the ugly, racist element of the Tea Party), but the fact is they can't win without getting boots on the ground one way or another.


I think we finally discovered the saturation point of political ads. Hell, I saw a crossroads GPS ad when I was looking for an online scrabble dictionary.

I really don't give a Fark about Obama at the moment, I just want to memorize all the three letter words with a k in them.

At some point you overload people and I think that happened this year. Even the most rabid partisans and political junkies were sick of the election this year.
 
2012-11-09 02:21:41 PM  

BSABSVR: And how would a Romney administration have any sway over state pension funds? That is, without insuring them when they lose money? I'm interested in your response because I'm completely sure that you have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about here.


FACE PALM!

It is not that Romney has sway over state pension funds.

THE BENEFICIARIES OF THE STATE PENSION SYSTEMS HAVE SWAY OVER OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
 
2012-11-09 02:29:06 PM  

halfof33: coyo: Lets pretend all the unions combined have more resources than the koch bros.

Of course they do, don't be a freaking moran.

What is going to happen is that they are going to stop nominating drooling anti-abortion zealots, make overtures to the hispanic communities, scream about the deficit and unfunded pension liability and wait til Obama's Illinois goes tits up before the next election.


How do you explain all of those red states taking more federal money than they pay?
 
2012-11-09 02:35:26 PM  

halfof33: coyo: Lets pretend all the unions combined have more resources than the koch bros.

Of course they do, don't be a freaking moran.

What is going to happen is that they are going to stop nominating drooling anti-abortion zealots, make overtures to the hispanic communities, scream about the deficit and unfunded pension liability and wait til Obama's Illinois goes tits up before the next election.


I think you serve my purposes better in your current capacity. please, continue!
 
2012-11-09 02:44:06 PM  

Weaver95: I think you serve my purposes better in your current capacity. please, continue!


Oh, you are teh evil wizrad!

Do you want me to say "Unfunded public employee pensions" again, oh please Brer Fox, don't make me do it again!
 
2012-11-09 02:48:04 PM  

halfof33: Weaver95: I think you serve my purposes better in your current capacity. please, continue!

Oh, you are teh evil wizrad!

Do you want me to say "Unfunded public employee pensions" again, oh please Brer Fox, don't make me do it again!


technically, I supposed I'd be classified as a undead bloodline sorcerer but I suspect you're more of a 4th edition player than pathfinder.
 
2012-11-09 04:44:45 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: SouthParkCon:
Yea, I didn't pick up that Weaver had gone over to the Left. That is a change.

Weaver adopted the Klingon proverb with respects to the GOP: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, prepare to die."


I geeked out and looked it up:
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, ghuH Daq Hegh!" (prepare against death)
 
2012-11-09 04:52:52 PM  

SouthParkCon: I don't want to go to off-topic but I've recently been slammed and ridiculed for saying "Progressive"


Don't use the word "progressive" as a pejorative term and you won't be ridiculed.
 
2012-11-09 05:46:35 PM  

Zerochance: homelessdude: there is at least a couple of stories each day as to the ineptitude of the Romney campaign in general.

One of my favorites so far

Link


that was one of the most enjoyable articles i've read post election. well written and it explains basic problems with romney and his campaign.
 
2012-11-09 06:32:51 PM  

Zerochance: homelessdude: there is at least a couple of stories each day as to the ineptitude of the Romney campaign in general.

One of my favorites so far

Link


FThatFA: "For starters, this was billed as an 'app' when it was actually a mobile-optimized website (or 'web app'). For days I saw people on Twitter saying they couldn't find the app on the Android Market or iTunes and couldn't download it. Well, that's because it didn't exist. It was a website."

As someone who works in web development part of every year, I encounter plenty of clients who don't know the proper term for something and refer to it with a different term they've heard before but don't actually understand--and then blame me for not immediately knowing what they meant. (See also: The "My staff sent me an internet last Friday, and I only got it yesterday" part of the infamous "series of tubes" speech.) It's not so much that they don't know the proper terminology--after all, they hired my company to handle that stuff for them--it's that they're convinced that they do know what they're talking about, so I must be the problem. I'm much happier working for people who describe what they want rather than the ones who use a few buzzwords and expect me to know exactly how they're (incorrectly) using them. And yes, when we've created mobile-optimized versions of clients' sites, several clients refer to them as the "app" we built. *sigh*

/Sorry for the rant, but that bit struck a nerve. Such stupidity is not confined to any political party.
 
2012-11-10 12:49:25 AM  

udhq: I think the real story of this campaign is how Citizens United seems to have backfired on the republicans. They raised over $2 billion, put most if it into media, and it just seemed to make people disengage. The ground game beat the air game.

The right is going to have to come up with some kind of an answer for the grass roots, or they are going to be electorally dead in the water going forward. Traditionally, they have struggled with finding a way of doing this that doesn't turn off independents (think the ugly, racist element of the Tea Party), but the fact is they can't win without getting boots on the ground one way or another.


Very interesting metaphor. Bombing a population often just angers them and gives them resolve. Overrunning their position on the ground takes the territory.

Which one is more like Obama and which one is more like Romney.

To your other point: The Tea Party's message is just simply not that likable: White People Are Better, you are a tax leech but I am a tax patriot, those brown and black people are the enemy because they don't work hard like I do, on and on and on. Then all the corollary noise: Death Panels, Whar Birth Certificate Whar, denounce the gays, denounce women, accuse women of faking rape, demand women have a baby if they are raped...

When does the insanity with these people end?
 
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