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(Breitbart.com)   Read My Lips: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell says, No Tax Hikes. It is well past time for some major budget cuts   (breitbart.com) divider line 323
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2012-11-08 09:45:34 PM  
Sure, we'll start with that bloated monstrosity you call a defense budget.
 
2012-11-08 09:47:59 PM  
You know, if Mitch cares so much about reducing the deficit, you'd think he'd like the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the payroll cut and the fiscal cliff. Those three alone should slice the deficit in half.
 
2012-11-08 09:50:03 PM  
I really dont get why you folks listen to what turtles say. I mean, sure, its amazing that a terapin can speak the Queens English, but does that even matter ? It doesnt mean it makes sense or even knows what it utters.
 
2012-11-08 09:50:34 PM  

GAT_00: You know, if Mitch cares so much about reducing the deficit, you'd think he'd like the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the payroll cut and the fiscal cliff. Those three alone should slice the deficit in half.


I am in complete agreement. We should let all three of those things happen.
 
2012-11-08 09:59:34 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: GAT_00: You know, if Mitch cares so much about reducing the deficit, you'd think he'd like the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the payroll cut and the fiscal cliff. Those three alone should slice the deficit in half.

I am in complete agreement. We should let all three of those things happen.


Look, the deficit isn't that big of a deal. Let the tax cuts expire and shiat smooths out when the economy picks up-which will happen with or without the cuts-and there you go. Cut back the unnessisarily large defense budget to something that actually reflects world threats that we could de with today and leave safety nets alone.

If you want to speed things up, go single-payer for health care. Get that load off the employers and negotiate prices with the providers.
 
2012-11-08 10:02:48 PM  

SilentStrider: Sure, we'll start with that bloated monstrosity you call a defense budget.


Whoa, you can touch everything but defense, medicare, and SS. And the TSA, and border patrol. And the DEA. And don't even think about new revenue streams from legalization of MJ. And you have to keep foreign aid to Israel, and we definitely need farm subsidies and oil/gas subsidies.

But other than that, let's get some smaller government.
 
2012-11-08 10:06:38 PM  
Here's the problem: you're trying to pay for 2012 America with 2003 taxes. That's not going to work. You can't live without a COLA adjustment periodically. Why do we expect the budget to?
 
2012-11-08 10:09:07 PM  
Yes I realize I said Cost of Living Adjustment Adjustment. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-08 10:16:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Yes I realize I said Cost of Living Adjustment Adjustment. Deal with it.


Just get it from the automatic ATM machine.
 
2012-11-08 10:22:28 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: GAT_00: You know, if Mitch cares so much about reducing the deficit, you'd think he'd like the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the payroll cut and the fiscal cliff. Those three alone should slice the deficit in half.

I am in complete agreement. We should let all three of those things happen.


The fiscal cliff is incredibly dangerous in it's current form. It's likely to negate itself from the economic crash resulting from it. Austerity does not create growth. All it does is crash the economy and cause no net deficit reduction.
 
2012-11-08 10:28:11 PM  
Okay, but cutting Planned Parenthood and PBS won't do jack sh*t.
 
2012-11-08 10:34:26 PM  
Maybe McConnell is ready to retire.
 
2012-11-08 10:37:24 PM  
Time to make some turtle soup
 
2012-11-08 10:38:28 PM  
As I said in another thread, I can't help but feel a little depressed that the GOP held the House. It allows the most insane portion of the GOP - its House base - to entrench. They aren't going to do anything to moderate, and due to redistricting, they have a really good chance of holding the House for basically the entire decade. Obviously lots of good will happen simply but NOT electing Romney, but I feel like our government is still somewhat irredeemably broken.

McConnell - who gives a shiat. If there was a Dem house we'd get around him. But we don't and won't for the foreseeable future.
 
2012-11-08 10:39:08 PM  

ManateeGag: Maybe McConnell is ready to retire.


Back off to the Galapagos with him!
 
2012-11-08 10:41:19 PM  

DamnYankees: As I said in another thread, I can't help but feel a little depressed that the GOP held the House. It allows the most insane portion of the GOP - its House base - to entrench. They aren't going to do anything to moderate, and due to redistricting, they have a really good chance of holding the House for basically the entire decade. Obviously lots of good will happen simply but NOT electing Romney, but I feel like our government is still somewhat irredeemably broken.

McConnell - who gives a shiat. If there was a Dem house we'd get around him. But we don't and won't for the foreseeable future.


Get used to it. As the republicans become a regional party, they will be strongest in the house races.
 
2012-11-08 10:43:14 PM  
Republicans spend four years screeching about spending cuts, then b*tch and moan about the "fiscal cliff"

They aren't serious about cutting spending, they're not serious about fiscal responsibility, they're not serious about anything but trying to hurt Obama and if necessary, America in order to get what they want.
 
2012-11-08 10:45:45 PM  

Aarontology: Republicans spend four years screeching about spending cuts, then b*tch and moan about the "fiscal cliff"

They aren't serious about cutting spending, they're not serious about fiscal responsibility, they're not serious about anything but trying to hurt Obama and if necessary, America in order to get what they want.


Their number one goal is to assure that Obama is a two term president

/oh, wait...
 
2012-11-08 10:47:59 PM  
Read my lips: no one gives a shiat what McConnell thinks. Boehner is the lead guy on this and he's going to be constantly watching his back to make sure Cantor doesn't stick a knife in it.
 
2012-11-08 10:49:02 PM  

Mentat: Read my lips: no one gives a shiat what McConnell thinks. Boehner is the lead guy on this and he's going to be constantly watching his back to make sure Cantor doesn't stick a knife in it.


This will be very entertaining.
 
2012-11-08 10:58:17 PM  

ToxicMunkee: Okay, but cutting Planned Parenthood and PBS won't do jack sh*t.


Not unless we also cut aid to Egypt.
 
2012-11-08 11:09:24 PM  
Big government cuts will hurt the economy. You need to wait for the economy to be in good shape, rather than just gasping along before you cut spending in the largest sector of it.
 
2012-11-08 11:27:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Yes I realize I said Cost of Living Adjustment Adjustment. Deal with it.


i.imgur.com

Can I get one of those with my Gary Busey Helmet Protector Protector?
 
2012-11-08 11:42:33 PM  
Let's start with congressional health benefits, and then go from there, shall we?
 
2012-11-08 11:52:48 PM  
How about you just promise to hold your breath until the *rest* of capitol hill turns blue?
 
2012-11-09 12:02:46 AM  

GAT_00: The fiscal cliff is incredibly dangerous in it's current form. It's likely to negate itself from the economic crash resulting from it. Austerity does not create growth. All it does is crash the economy and cause no net deficit reduction.


I have been trying to tell people this. Yes, taxes should go up, but only at the very top. We cannot let everything just expire. The fiscal cliff is a really goddamn bad thing and it needs to be avoided.

Unfortunately, the cliff is December 31st and the new House with slightly fewer teatards doesn't get started until 2013.

We're all farked.
 
2012-11-09 12:07:39 AM  
copy/paste from FB from a republican friend of mine on this very topic:

Everett Dirksen (R-IL). Howard Baker (R-TN). Bob Dole (R-KS). Senator McConnell, those men were great Senate Republican Leaders. You are not such a leader, sir. For the good of our party, get out of the way. For the good of the Senate, you and Senator Reid both need to step aside.

and I couldn't agree more.
 
2012-11-09 12:13:18 AM  

ManateeGag: copy/paste from FB from a republican friend of mine on this very topic:

Everett Dirksen (R-IL). Howard Baker (R-TN). Bob Dole (R-KS). Senator McConnell, those men were great Senate Republican Leaders. You are not such a leader, sir. For the good of our party, get out of the way. For the good of the Senate, you and Senator Reid both need to step aside.

and I couldn't agree more.


Ya know... I could go for seeing the last of both of those twits myself

/new leadership all around is a great idea
 
2012-11-09 12:41:30 AM  
How about sequestration? That should have enough budget cuts for everyone to enjoy. I heard there's some sort of tax hike scheduled for around then as well. Let's hope someone doesn't decide to filibuster something and fark it all up.
 
2012-11-09 12:41:36 AM  

SilentStrider: Sure, we'll start with that bloated monstrosity you call a defense budget.


Absolutely. 20%

How farking big does the military really have to be?
 
2012-11-09 12:42:45 AM  
Good luck with that Mitch. When Goldman Sachs sends out the knee-breakers to fill Republicans in on what happens if they resist, they'll fall into line, or there will be a rash of people falling down elevator shafts and crashing private planes.
 
2012-11-09 12:43:04 AM  
well, losers don't get to pick what we do.
 
2012-11-09 12:43:18 AM  
One can only hope that Mitch drops dead.
 
2012-11-09 12:43:27 AM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: GAT_00: You know, if Mitch cares so much about reducing the deficit, you'd think he'd like the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the payroll cut and the fiscal cliff. Those three alone should slice the deficit in half.

I am in complete agreement. We should let all three of those things happen.


We'll go over the Fiscal Cliff (TM) and then come back. That way the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy will expire w/o the Republicans voting on it, and major defense cuts can take place w/o any Republican finger prints. Oh, there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, and Glenn Beck will cry, but the heaving lifting will finally be done.
 
2012-11-09 12:44:24 AM  
Are you saying you can't imagine a circumstance where the U.S. has to fight off every other country in the world at the same time?

With our foreign policy?
 
2012-11-09 12:45:13 AM  

FishyFred: GAT_00: The fiscal cliff is incredibly dangerous in it's current form. It's likely to negate itself from the economic crash resulting from it. Austerity does not create growth. All it does is crash the economy and cause no net deficit reduction.

I have been trying to tell people this. Yes, taxes should go up, but only at the very top. We cannot let everything just expire. The fiscal cliff is a really goddamn bad thing and it needs to be avoided.

Unfortunately, the cliff is December 31st and the new House with slightly fewer teatards doesn't get started until 2013.

We're all farked.


Good grief. It's not like everything is going to be hunky-dory on December 31st and then everything will instantly go to hell in a handbasket on January 1st. It's not a fiscal cliff. It's a slope. We can fix things afterwards if it comes to that. That means the BATNA for the Democrats is far better than for the Republicans now.
 
2012-11-09 12:46:10 AM  
I heard on NPR this evening during The World. If they allow the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire.. that alone will avoid the fiscal cliff.. $800 million .. boom. done.

Also, something interesting that I hadn't thought of with regard to addressing the debt .. make the retirement age later (70?) and raise taxes on everyone making 75k to 250k.

You want the debt issue fixed? That will do it.
 
2012-11-09 12:47:37 AM  
Oh, not this shiat again. We let the Democrats keep the Senate and White House, but barely chipped away at the republican majority in the House?

God damnit. Why couldn't those farkers have been properly fumigated, made into the minority that they should be? We can now expect ANOTHER four years of republicans being tardmuffins.
 
2012-11-09 12:47:40 AM  
Fine. Let's start with the military, subsidies to businesses, and loopholes that give huge corporations a 0% tax rate.
 
2012-11-09 12:47:43 AM  
McConnell said in an exclusive statement to Breitbart News:

One issue I've never been conflicted about is taxes. I wasn't sent to Washington to raise anybody's taxes to pay for more wasteful spending and this election doesn't change my principles. This election was a disappointment, without doubt, but let's be clear about something: the House is still run by Republicans, and Republicans still maintain a robust minority in the Senate. I know some people out there think Tuesday's results mean Republicans in Washington are now going to roll over and agree to Democrat demands that we hike tax rates before the end of the year. I'm here to tell them there is no truth to that notion whatsoever.


WE DIDN'T LOSE!! THE ELECTION MEANS NOTHING!!1! EVERYTHING WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND IF THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE WANTED WHY DO WE STILL HAVE THE HOUSE?? IF NOTHING CHANGES IT'S BECAUSE OBAMA DIDN'T GET THE CLEAR MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE AGREE WITH REPUBLICANS ABOUT EVERYTHING AND IF OBAMA DOESN'T DO IT OUR WAY THEN HE IS A DIVISIVE - NO! - HE IS THE. MOST. DIVISIVE. POLITICIAN. EVAR!!!1!!
 
2012-11-09 12:47:54 AM  

Serious Black: FishyFred: GAT_00: The fiscal cliff is incredibly dangerous in it's current form. It's likely to negate itself from the economic crash resulting from it. Austerity does not create growth. All it does is crash the economy and cause no net deficit reduction.

I have been trying to tell people this. Yes, taxes should go up, but only at the very top. We cannot let everything just expire. The fiscal cliff is a really goddamn bad thing and it needs to be avoided.

Unfortunately, the cliff is December 31st and the new House with slightly fewer teatards doesn't get started until 2013.

We're all farked.

Good grief. It's not like everything is going to be hunky-dory on December 31st and then everything will instantly go to hell in a handbasket on January 1st. It's not a fiscal cliff. It's a slope. We can fix things afterwards if it comes to that. That means the BATNA for the Democrats is far better than for the Republicans now.


Exactly. Let all the tax cuts expire and then demand the Republicans pass middle class tax cuts in January. Pretty simple.
 
2012-11-09 12:48:03 AM  

Aarontology: Republicans spend four years screeching about spending cuts, then b*tch and moan about the "fiscal cliff"

They aren't serious about cutting spending, they're not serious about fiscal responsibility, they're not serious about anything but trying to hurt Obama and if necessary, America in order to get what they want.


At this point I am convinced they are just batshiat nuts. I dont think they even have things we would recognize as "wants." Just randomly firing neurons that make sound come out .
 
2012-11-09 12:48:08 AM  

Serious Black: FishyFred: GAT_00: The fiscal cliff is incredibly dangerous in it's current form. It's likely to negate itself from the economic crash resulting from it. Austerity does not create growth. All it does is crash the economy and cause no net deficit reduction.

I have been trying to tell people this. Yes, taxes should go up, but only at the very top. We cannot let everything just expire. The fiscal cliff is a really goddamn bad thing and it needs to be avoided.

Unfortunately, the cliff is December 31st and the new House with slightly fewer teatards doesn't get started until 2013.

We're all farked.

Good grief. It's not like everything is going to be hunky-dory on December 31st and then everything will instantly go to hell in a handbasket on January 1st. It's not a fiscal cliff. It's a slope. We can fix things afterwards if it comes to that. That means the BATNA for the Democrats is far better than for the Republicans now.


We would get hit with another credit rating downgrade. A rise in unemployment and a recession.
 
2012-11-09 12:50:08 AM  
It'd be nice if federal employees could get a COLA. We haven't in 3 years and it bites.
 
2012-11-09 12:50:23 AM  

SavageWombat: Are you saying you can't imagine a circumstance where the U.S. has to fight off every other country in the world at the same time?

With our foreign policy?


It occurs to me that Canada has been pretty quiet about Harper's military buildup a few years ago. And you know they've been itchin' to smack down Russia over all that oil to the north. I think the next World Cop is right next door.
 
2012-11-09 12:52:18 AM  

Diablo Snowblind: Oh, not this shiat again. We let the Democrats keep the Senate and White House, but barely chipped away at the republican majority in the House?

God damnit. Why couldn't those farkers have been properly fumigated, made into the minority that they should be? We can now expect ANOTHER four years of republicans being tardmuffins.


Because Republicans held redistricting control in a lot of states when the 2010 census came in, so they gerrymandered the hell out of the country in order to protect their own seats.
 
2012-11-09 12:52:28 AM  

Mentat: Read my lips: no one gives a shiat what McConnell thinks. Boehner is the lead guy on this and he's going to be constantly watching his back to make sure Cantor doesn't stick a knife in it.

 
2012-11-09 12:53:03 AM  
Republicans aren't going to cut what Democrats want cut and Democrats aren't going to cut what Republicans want cut.

The last time Republicans proposed cutting a measly 100 billion out of the budget the Democrats howled and Reid called it "draconian".
 
2012-11-09 12:53:32 AM  
So here's the deal.

One side says: No tax increases, spending cuts ONLY!

The other side says: No spending cuts, tax increases ONLY!

Damn... something needs to happen to fix the fiscal problem facing the country... what could we do?

The other side says: Here's 90% spending cuts and 10% tax increases.

One side says: fark OFF!!!!!

Result? the One side says "The other side won't work with us!" 

Who is "the one side" and who is "the other side"?
 
2012-11-09 12:55:11 AM  
Is it REALLY worth burning the whole country down just so that Grover Norquist can be a cheapskate?

i.huffpost.com
 
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