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2012-11-08 07:52:18 PM
Yikes, looks like they destroyed the book.
 
2012-11-08 08:27:16 PM
This is funny to me. I didn't read the book, so to me it just looks like a you people are losing your shiat over nothing. Maybe the book was this awesome ride and they are totally ruining it, but I am getting a kick out of how people on the web are pillorying this trailer.

I personally hate fast zombie stories anyway.
 
2012-11-08 08:28:02 PM

knbber2: Yikes, looks like they destroyed the book.


Indeed. IIRC, in the book they were the classic slow zombies. And it looks as though, unlike the book, they're coordinating/cooperating with each other when scaling the building. They aren't supposed to be intelligent enough to do stuff like that.
 
2012-11-08 08:37:56 PM

Bathia_Mapes: knbber2: Yikes, looks like they destroyed the book.

Indeed. IIRC, in the book they were the classic slow zombies. And it looks as though, unlike the book, they're coordinating/cooperating with each other when scaling the building. They aren't supposed to be intelligent enough to do stuff like that.


If zombies can talk, we're all dead.
 
2012-11-08 08:38:13 PM
I like a mix of slow and fast, you don't know which is which, they are mixed in with each other...

I like lurkers, zombies that find out of the way places, a bush, tall grass, under a counter... and just sit / lay down and stay still and quiet until you come by..

also moaners.... moaners alert other zombies...


Ive run a few table top RPGs with a nice mix of kinds, none being L4D super Specials, the closest to that I had was the gas bag, zombies that looked more bloated then the rest, tight skin, a little heavy set... full of flammable gas, do not kill near fire, take out with melee weapons..

I also had a real mix of physical types, fat zombies got bonuses to melee grabs and the like, child zombies were almost always fast, and tricky to hit.

now what could they have done better with the WarZ movie?

Made it a mini series on AMC or some such..

Think about it, we can follow the book almost exactly... the narrator traveling the world to speak with all these people, through his eyes and travel we get to see the world after the zombie wars, flying over country side, nearly empty cities....

Each week he tracks down someone to interview, he finds them, and it fades to each story, different guest actors, and maybe each tale directed by a new director...

There are enough stories in the book to do at least 2 small seasons.
 
2012-11-08 08:55:50 PM
I couldn't watch that trailer without the niggling thought... "wasn't it filmed in Glasgow?"

Yes, it was. From that article:

Parts of Glasgow are being turned into war-torn ruins for the next two weeks as filming for a new Hollywood blockbuster gets under way.


Aaah.

The producers wanted to make it easier for themselves.

/Hope they got an Old Firm match day too, for hordes of mindless zombies aimlessly wandering around.
//Old Firm matches are a bit thin on the ground these days.
///Being a sheep shagger, I'm allowed to criticise.
 
2012-11-08 10:46:24 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: This is funny to me. I didn't read the book, so to me it just looks like a you people are losing your shiat over nothing. Maybe the book was this awesome ride and they are totally ruining it, but I am getting a kick out of how people on the web are pillorying this trailer.

I personally hate fast zombie stories anyway.


Wait until they start throwing around phrases like "survival porn".
 
2012-11-08 11:04:57 PM
Not just fast zombies. Fast obviously CGI zombies. ::sigh::
 
2012-11-08 11:08:08 PM
So why do we hate this now? Admittedly I'm a little zombied-out but this looks like it has good production values anyway.
 
2012-11-08 11:18:38 PM
I can only hope this will finally cause Zombie Overkill and people let the whole damn thing die.
 
2012-11-08 11:33:32 PM

GAT_00: I can only hope this will finally cause Zombie Overkill and people let the whole damn thing die.


Well The Walking Dead has really good ratings but yeah, the genre is a bot over saturated. How many times can you tell the same story about zombies and survivors who are mostly assholes?
 
2012-11-08 11:38:28 PM

Raharu: I like a mix of slow and fast, you don't know which is which, they are mixed in with each other...


The Morningstar Strain trilogy handled this well (I'm sure other books have as well, but this one is fresh in mind): the infection doesn't kill you, so the still living infected are fast "Runners". However, if their body dies, they reanimate as slow "Shamblers". Seems sensible and consistent to me, and makes for a more interesting story overall by varying the threats.

IIRC, in WWZ, the zombies start out as reasonably mobile, not fast because of lack of good coordination, but not entirely slow, either. They slow down as their bodies deteriorate. I think... I may be misremembering because I've been reading a lot of zombie books lately. I've been on a bit of a kick.
 
2012-11-09 12:02:05 AM
I'm willing to give this movie a chance. I know it doesn't follow the book and it's a little different from other works of zombie fiction but that doesn't mean-

Despite the third act footage that was already in the can, Prometheus writer Damon Lindelof was brought in to write a new ending - both literally and figuratively - for the venture.

God damnit.
 
2012-11-09 12:06:24 AM

Mentat: I'm willing to give this movie a chance. I know it doesn't follow the book and it's a little different from other works of zombie fiction but that doesn't mean-

Despite the third act footage that was already in the can, Prometheus writer Damon Lindelof was brought in to write a new ending - both literally and figuratively - for the venture.

God damnit.


Mother farker.
 
2012-11-09 12:10:36 AM
These zombies look like they came out of a poorly done video game from about 10 years ago.
 
2012-11-09 12:12:10 AM

Mugato: So why do we hate this now? Admittedly I'm a little zombied-out but this looks like it has good production values anyway.


Because it appears to be NOTHING like its namesake (I won't even say source material).

WWZ is a series of vignettes. Some touching, some funny, some scary, but all different.

This is a single themed action/horror movie.

I'll probably go see it, I just wish they had called it something else... if for no reason than people will watch it and think that they can skip the book.
 
2012-11-09 12:17:27 AM
If everyone involved in making, supporting, and watching this movie was run over by a truck tomorrow, I think we'd wake up the day after to a far better world.
 
2012-11-09 12:24:15 AM

Shadow Blasko: I'll probably go see it, I just wish they had called it something else... if for no reason than people will watch it and think that they can skip the book.


This is my thought as well. Based solely on the trailer, ignoring the title, it looks like it could at least be a fun, action packed fast-zombie movie. Which is fine, assuming it is at the very least mindlessly entertaining, if not just straight up entertaining.

But it looks nothing at all like "World War Z".

I'll probably see it because it looks entertaining, not because it has the same title as the book and I am expecting it to be anything like the book. Its a crappy marketing gimmick to have given it this title.
 
2012-11-09 12:37:39 AM
Other than the title, what does this have in common with the book?
 
2012-11-09 12:39:53 AM

Bladel: Other than the title, what does this have in common with the book?


Zombies.. Helicopters.. people... umm... air.
 
2012-11-09 12:41:29 AM

Bladel: Other than the title, what does this have in common with the book?


I'll bet some of the characters have the same names. ;)
 
2012-11-09 01:01:48 AM

Bladel: Other than the title, what does this have in common with the book?


It really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I don't think WWZ was a household name that they could bank on, like Stephen King or someone (who knows what it's like to have books turned into movies by name only).

World War Z could be a great HBO series or something. It's so very far different from something like Walking Dead that it wouldn't feel like a ripoff. This looks like Walking Dead with faster and more more more zombies.

Why not just keep the documentary feel of the book at least, even if you screw all the rest of it up?
 
2012-11-09 01:06:26 AM

Raharu: Mentat: I'm willing to give this movie a chance. I know it doesn't follow the book and it's a little different from other works of zombie fiction but that doesn't mean-

Despite the third act footage that was already in the can, Prometheus writer Damon Lindelof was brought in to write a new ending - both literally and figuratively - for the venture.

God damnit.

Mother farker.


There is no God.

/Not sarcasm
//Hyperbole? Okay, guilty.
///But f*in Lindelof? After the travesty that was Prometheus? Ugh.
 
2012-11-09 01:18:23 AM
so they remade Matrix Revolutions and replaced the sentinels with zombies... got it.
 
2012-11-09 01:18:29 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: This is funny to me. I didn't read the book, so to me it just looks like a you people are losing your shiat over nothing. Maybe the book was this awesome ride and they are totally ruining it, but I am getting a kick out of how people on the web are pillorying this trailer.

I personally hate fast zombie stories anyway.


The book was a different look at the zombie story. Everything preceding was 1)ZOMBIES! 2)Identify protagonist(s), 3) Adaptation/survival plotline, and 4) follow protagonist to end of book. Season generously with zombie attacks and deaths of secondary characters. *Suggested but not required: Someone has to kill freshly-zombified former member of group.

WWZ was like a post-apocalyptic Canterbury Tales. A reporter gathered stories of a dozen or so survivors, from all over the world, and from all walks of life. A computer geek, a decorated war general, a teenager abandoned at age 6 to fend for herself in the middle of the outbreak, a shady pharmaceutical rep, a Marine on the zombie front line, etc. And each vignette was emotional and gripping. The war general describing how a former maid needed to instruct her former employer on how to sanitize things, a Marine w/obvious PTSD recounting how the Army's state-of-the-art tech was useless, the zillionaire who thought he had a zombie-proof bunker until it got overrun, etc.

From the trailer, it looks like they just went with a fast-paced, movie-length version of The Walking Dead. With badly CGI'd zombies and Inception's score.
 
2012-11-09 01:18:34 AM
WTF was with the climbing pile of zombies ? I don't waarrgarble about the fast vs slow zombies but I draw the line at army ant zombies.

That's just silly
 
2012-11-09 01:21:07 AM

Bladel: Other than the title, what does this have in common with the book?


there are zombies in it. oh, and they are all over the world.

that's really about it.
 
2012-11-09 01:22:30 AM

One Bad Apple: WTF was with the climbing pile of zombies ? I don't waarrgarble about the fast vs slow zombies but I draw the line at army ant zombies.

That's just silly


I'm okay with that except for the speed. The chapter w/the zillionaire's bunker and even Battle at Yonkers described zombies using zombie corpses to overcome barriers. The problem in the trailer is more a matter of God-awful CGI than story.
 
2012-11-09 01:23:43 AM

brigid_fitch: badly CGI'd zombies


that really can't be over stated.
 
2012-11-09 01:52:52 AM

brigid_fitch: The chapter w/the zillionaire's bunker


Are you talking about the Long Island compound?
 
2012-11-09 01:54:42 AM
The biggest problem with these CGI trailer, is that the CGI isn't finalized...or completed. Remember how people were biatching about The Hulk in the early Avengers Trailers?

My problem it's a farking Zombie movie. Stupidest concept for a monster ever.
 
2012-11-09 02:07:41 AM

log_jammin: brigid_fitch: badly CGI'd zombies

that really can't be over stated.

 
2012-11-09 02:32:37 AM
Ok I know nothing about the lore, the book or anything. This just looks like another stupid movie. But my question is:

Did that garbage truck say PWND?
 
2012-11-09 02:35:39 AM
WWZ wasn't well suited to being made into a movie. But it might have made a half decent TV series. You know, if someone else hadn't made their own post-zombie apocalypse TV series.

This looks like the sort of adaptation The Moon is a Harsh Mistress would receive.
 
2012-11-09 02:40:00 AM

Darth_Lukecash: The biggest problem with these CGI trailer, is that the CGI isn't finalized...or completed. Remember how people were biatching about The Hulk in the early Avengers Trailers?

My problem it's a farking Zombie movie. Stupidest concept for a monster ever.


Actually, most monsters are just personified archetypes of various human traits and emotions.

Zombies are multilayered metaphors representing one or more of a litany of external forces including inevitability, mortality, insurmountable opposition and abandonment of principles.

While not true for all zombie or monster stories, it is because of these that most monster stories focus on the defeat (control) of the monster (trait or emotion).

... zombie stories on the other hand usually surround themselves with the theme of survival in the face of the external force... so much so that many end exactly where they begin with little having been accomplished aside from a brief reprieve to ponder those that did not survive or those that sacrificed themselves so others could.

/love me some zombie stories
 
2012-11-09 02:41:22 AM

Bathia_Mapes: knbber2: Yikes, looks like they destroyed the book.

Indeed. IIRC, in the book they were the classic slow zombies. And it looks as though, unlike the book, they're coordinating/cooperating with each other when scaling the building. They aren't supposed to be intelligent enough to do stuff like that.


Good lord, zombies running on meth and Red Bull!

I think these zombies have a hive mind. And for a lot of months since the first two scripts were leaked, I've been calling this train wreck Starship Zombies on account of what Hollywood did Robert Heinlein's book Starship Troopers, but may God and St.Peter smack me if two of those scenes don't look like they were taken from the Starship Troopers movie.
 
2012-11-09 02:41:48 AM
Why does this remind me of "War of the Worlds" meets "I am Legend"? Hollywood out of ideas?
 
2012-11-09 02:42:56 AM

Darth_Lukecash: My problem it's a farking Zombie movie. Stupidest concept for a monster ever.


Zombies are the oldest monsters there are, worldwide.
 
2012-11-09 02:46:23 AM

wildcardjack: This looks like the sort of adaptation The Moon is a Harsh Mistress would receive.


If someone takes that idea and runs with it, I will hunt you down and turn your femurs into pencil holders.

Then slingshot them from tycho under to the NA Directorate.
 
2012-11-09 02:49:39 AM
If I didn't know what WWZ was, I'm not sure I would even know that's a zombie movie.
 
2012-11-09 02:54:18 AM

bob_ross: Ok I know nothing about the lore, the book or anything. This just looks like another stupid movie. But my question is:

Did that garbage truck say PWND?


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Pinkett Waste Disposal

/I like yours better
 
2012-11-09 02:54:37 AM

brigid_fitch: From the trailer, it looks like they just went with a fast-paced, movie-length version of The Walking Dead. With badly CGI'd zombies and Inception's score.


As someone who has read the book 8 times (and picks it up for light vignette reading to get to sleep), it looks more like they smooshed 3 of the American survivor stories together into a single narrative (the marine, the little girl whose family fled to Canada, and the gov't consultant who wound up doing resource control) with a few brief scenes that were set in other areas of the world in the book peppered in for flavor.

I'm reserving judgement until I've seen the movie and how well it adapts those three stories into each other, but even if it is good, I can't help but agree with the general consensus that overall it would have been better as a miniseries.

/Then again, they could be setting this up for a movie franchise.
//Because Hollywood needs to eat all the dicks and DIAF.
 
Poe
2012-11-09 02:56:34 AM
I love WWZ. Read it multiple times, lent out my copy to multiple people and got them hooked, looking forward to the unabridged audiobook. I don't know what this is, but it isn't WWZ.

I'm not angry, just ...disappointed.
 
2012-11-09 03:01:05 AM

sonorangal: Why does this remind me of "War of the Worlds" meets "I am Legend"? Hollywood out of ideas?


It's funny you say that because my thought during the trailer was "So the first half of war of the worlds, but with zombies instead of aliens".
 
2012-11-09 03:01:39 AM

Poe: looking forward to the unabridged audiobook


I don't know about the unabridged version, but the audiobook for WWZ makes a case for being better than the actual book reading experience.
 
2012-11-09 03:03:06 AM

Coelacanth: I think these zombies have a hive mind. And for a lot of months since the first two scripts were leaked, I've been calling this train wreck Starship Zombies on account of what Hollywood did Robert Heinlein's book Starship Troopers, but may God and St.Peter smack me if two of those scenes don't look like they were taken from the Starship Troopers movie.


Starship Troopers was a horrible adaptation, but a fun movie on its own. Really became timely after 9/11 and the propaganda leading up to our invasion of Iraq.
 
2012-11-09 03:03:59 AM
Imagine the tension: The US Army stages their stand in Yonkers. The horde is funneling towards them, slowly, slowly. The jets fly overhead and deploy the flechette bombs. The horde keeps coming, slowly. The tanks blast away, and Zacks crumple. Then they get back up, and come, slowly. The soldiers open fire, steady, controlled. Land Warrior feeds give everyone the on-the-ground view. They keep coming. The ammo runs low... wait, this isn't how it was planned. The horde stretches on for miles. The ammo is almost gone. What? Zack is behind the front lines?! Someone's down, where are they coming from? Oh God!

or I guess we can just have a buncha fast zombies. 'Cause those are cool or something, so fark it.
 
2012-11-09 03:04:56 AM

Darth_Lukecash: My problem it's a farking Zombie movie. Stupidest concept for a monster ever.


Never really got the whole zombie thing. And the only thing the trailer is missing is the happy ending.
 
2012-11-09 03:06:17 AM
It's pretty bad when the CGI comes across as over the top, excessive, and fake looking in a Youtube clip.
 
2012-11-09 03:08:36 AM
I'll watch it.

/F all of you.
 
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