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2012-11-08 11:16:27 PM  
I'm not sure how to respond to this.
A) What a dick
or
B) Microcosm for the country had he won
or
C) Campaign's over, go cry somewhere else schmucks.
 
Ehh
2012-11-08 11:16:55 PM  
What the hell did they expect?
 
2012-11-08 11:16:57 PM  

theorellior: The schadenfreude is just getting too delicious. I just think about all those cute executive assistants who must've thought Romney was SO presidential and Ryan was SO dreamy having to dig out cash for their cab fares and get all giggly.


Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2012-11-08 11:16:59 PM  
They should chill out and remember the bigger picture.

It's still a warrior state ruled by money.
 
2012-11-08 11:17:16 PM  
fark me sideways, that's some funny shiat.

Hueg_Redd: This is delightful. What incentive do they have now to not leak the delicious details of the campaign's inner workings.


Next we're going to read about a Godfather or Goodfellas -style montage of them all getting whacked.
 
2012-11-08 11:17:47 PM  
And that, ladies and germs, is how multi-millionaires get to be multi-millionaires.
 
2012-11-08 11:18:31 PM  
Romney's consistent though.

He did say he likes firing people. Bet he had a little smirk knowing how many he fired all at the same time in the least humane way possible.
 
2012-11-08 11:19:12 PM  
"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." ~Mitt Romney
 
2012-11-08 11:19:36 PM  

Notabunny: theorellior: The schadenfreude is just getting too delicious.

You'll enjoy this: 15 enter, 1 leaves.

That's 29 people who would have received, if not protection, at least a protective survey and recommendations from the Service.


Simply winning the presidency would've created bigger government.
 
2012-11-08 11:20:21 PM  
God damn, this election really is America's gift to itself after dealing with four years of teabagger bullshiat, isn't it. I feel like farkin' Tiny Tim, coming down to a delicious Christmas goose and real, really-real, presents. Except in this story, it's not a cynical, bitter, out-of-touch plutocrat shown the error of his ways and decides to redeem himself in the eyes of himself and society, but rather a cynical, bitter, out-of-touch plutocratic political party typified by a cynical, bitter, out-of-touch plutocrat, shown the error of their ways and decides to double right the fark down on those errors.

God bless us, every one!
 
2012-11-08 11:20:25 PM  

historycat: Romney's consistent though.

He did say he likes firing people. Bet he had a little smirk knowing how many he fired all at the same time in the least humane way possible.


I'm betting it was more rage than joy, "Fark it! Kick'em all out!"
 
2012-11-08 11:21:44 PM  

Fail in Human Form: historycat: Romney's consistent though.

He did say he likes firing people. Bet he had a little smirk knowing how many he fired all at the same time in the least humane way possible.

I'm betting it was more rage than joy, "Fark it! Kick'em all out!"


Jenkins, I'm feeling a bit blue. Are there any hangings scheduled for today?
 
2012-11-08 11:22:15 PM  

wingnut396: [blog.sparkhire.com image 300x167]

YOU ARE FIRED!


Fantastic. You made my night.
 
2012-11-08 11:22:49 PM  

Strolpol: I seriously cannot wait for the tell-all book/movie. Hopefully one of these guys can write it within the next month...they could get a great pile of cash if they put it out before Christmas.


If any of his staffers were smart they would have been writing it throughout the entire campaign and by time the election came around it just needed to go out for editing.
 
2012-11-08 11:24:09 PM  

Fail in Human Form: historycat: Romney's consistent though.

He did say he likes firing people. Bet he had a little smirk knowing how many he fired all at the same time in the least humane way possible.

I'm betting it was more rage than joy, "Fark it! Kick'em all out!"


I'm betting it was more loving money than anything else.

"Yep, sorry. Campaign ran out of money. Yep. Every last time. Sorry."

I have had to pay for my own gas to get back home after a lost campaign... but to be fair, I had a free place to stay as long as I needed to recuperate in town. We were straight-up-out-of-money, last-bit-of-what-was-owed-came-out-of-candidate's-pocket. I could've insisted on the gas money back since mileage to and fro and all about was covered in my agreement... but I let it slide. I just wanted to go home. After I slept for most of the next 24 hours, anyway.
 
2012-11-08 11:24:11 PM  
This is a surprise from "I like being able to fire people" guy?
 
2012-11-08 11:24:19 PM  

MFAWG: I'll bet anybody in possession of a credit card got a bonus. I don't think they were going to die of hunger on their flights.


Yea, like I said, I doubt it. A lot of times, the people who have credit cards are office manager/assistant type roles. They may have gotten small bonuses, but I doubt they made a ton of money.

Also, that's all beside the point. They were at the event to work, their transporation should have been taken care of and cutting their cards with no notice was a dick move.
 
2012-11-08 11:24:49 PM  

that bosnian sniper: God damn, this election really is America's gift to itself after dealing with four years of teabagger bullshiat, isn't it. I feel like farkin' Tiny Tim, coming down to a delicious Christmas goose and real, really-real, presents. Except in this story, it's not a cynical, bitter, out-of-touch plutocrat shown the error of his ways and decides to redeem himself in the eyes of himself and society, but rather a cynical, bitter, out-of-touch plutocratic political party typified by a cynical, bitter, out-of-touch plutocrat, shown the error of their ways and decides to double right the fark down on those errors.

God bless us, every one!


Today? Why, it's Christmas day!
 
2012-11-08 11:25:03 PM  

max_pooper: Strolpol: I seriously cannot wait for the tell-all book/movie. Hopefully one of these guys can write it within the next month...they could get a great pile of cash if they put it out before Christmas.

If any of his staffers were smart they would have been writing it throughout the entire campaign and by time the election came around it just needed to go out for editing.


To really make a good narrative though, you need to know how it ends first. If they were smart they'd write up a ton of good anecdotes along the way, then pick the ones that prove a thesis or two and weave them together. It could be done in about 4 weeks after 11/6 if they were doing their homework along the way.
 
2012-11-08 11:25:11 PM  
Hahahahahaha!!! What?! Surprised when you're treated like the 47% / those beneath you? We all knew that a Romney / Ryan presidency would result in us all getting shiat upon from a great height; I can't think of a better present for you than to receive that gift yourself, from the man who was going to sock it to us all.

/Baiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!
 
2012-11-08 11:26:51 PM  
My god, next you're going to tell me that the millions of dollars left over in various pacs and superpacs have mysteriously disappeared!

Long con is long.
 
2012-11-08 11:27:26 PM  
Having a hard time thinking this is a big deal. I don't believe for a second that Romney personally had anything to do with it and I have no doubt any personal expenses will be reimbursed.

Romney got his ass kicked... it's over. I'm not interested in any manufactured outrage about him personally at this point. Who farking cares. He's done. That's all that matters.
 
2012-11-08 11:28:36 PM  

Gdiguy: rynthetyn: If you don't want people writing tell all books about the clusterfark that was your campaign, you don't screw your most loyal staffers over on election night.

On the one hand, this is exactly how you (nowadays) let people go from a company - the risk of them going back to their desks and wiping hard drives / stealing data / buying crap on the company card is high enough that it's more prudent to just fire them and remove the opportunity.

On the other, this is the difference between lowly staffers in politics and lowly workers in a company - if some middle manager in a company Bain buys is poorly treated on the way out, no-one's going to care about the dirty secrets he knows. If it's a staffer that has juicy quotes from Paul Ryan, though, someone's going to give him a couple thousand bucks for his book.


And once again why Mittens didn't get it that politics is just not like big business.
 
2012-11-08 11:29:06 PM  
Card.Declined.Suckers!
 
2012-11-08 11:30:18 PM  
Meh....the Obama campaign probably would have done the same thing.
 
2012-11-08 11:30:54 PM  
So they didn't buy refundable tickets in advance, just in case?

Now that I think about it, their "No Concession Speech!" boss probably ordered them not to.
 
2012-11-08 11:34:07 PM  

dualplains: My god, next you're going to tell me that the millions of dollars left over in various pacs and superpacs have mysteriously disappeared!

Long con is long.


Non-story, Overzealous accountants.
 
2012-11-08 11:34:40 PM  

The_Sponge: Meh....the Obama campaign probably would have done the same thing.


:-)
 
2012-11-08 11:35:34 PM  

coeyagi: As shiatty as the conservatives behaved before election night, they are opening up a whole new chapter on Biblical assholiness.

Is Dick Morris the only slimey sh*tstain who apologized for being such a wrong dickhead? There are thousands of them, but Toesucker Prime is the only one I've seen own up to be being a full-fledged f*ckbag.


UnskewedPolls guy did apologize for the personal attacks against Nate Silver (with a smattering of "b-b-but the evil librul media made me so mad, I just had to take it out on you!" on top of it), but never actually apologized for being a disingenuous dickbag with a ricockulous methodology.
 
2012-11-08 11:36:03 PM  

theknuckler_33: Having a hard time thinking this is a big deal. I don't believe for a second that Romney personally had anything to do with it and I have no doubt any personal expenses will be reimbursed.

Romney got his ass kicked... it's over. I'm not interested in any manufactured outrage about him personally at this point. Who farking cares. He's done. That's all that matters.


Honestly theknuckler_33, there is a valid point to all of this. It shows us exactly what kind of people we were up against here. From the arrogance of running a sloppy campaign, to the willful ignorance of unskewing the already unskewed polls, to the indifference of not even getting their own people home, I'd say we're lucky we didn't put "those people" in charge.

/again
 
2012-11-08 11:39:58 PM  

wingnut396: [blog.sparkhire.com image 300x167]

YOU ARE FIRED!


LOL!!! Multi-Pass!
 
2012-11-08 11:40:38 PM  
Here's another one: defeated Montana U.S. senate candidate Denny Rehberg refused to make a concession speech and stayed in his hotel room rather than go down to a banquet hall to thank his supporters and staff the night of the election. (He has been long-rumored to love the bottle: a staffer was nearly killed in a 2009 drunken boating crash and got drunk and fell off a horse on a junket in Kazakhstan in 2004.)
Anyway, he lost. Jon Tester was re-elected.
 
2012-11-08 11:42:47 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Eh, their job was done and the campaign finance people were just trying to head off human nature (i.e. let's spend this shiat!). You don't expect to be able to hang out at the office and use the copier after you are let go/fired.


No kidding, they might've put in a $50 million national television ad buy before morning.
 
2012-11-08 11:43:14 PM  

Amos Quito: I'm betting that Romney didn't issue those credit cards...


[mjcdn.motherjones.com image 300x226]


I'm betting they were Sheldon's cards, and he knew too well that it was time to fold 'em.


^^^^^^^^^^

Romney's a cheapskate (and a puppet!). Adelson is the gambler.
This isn't usually discussed at the time the cards are handed out, though.
There shouldn't be any surprises as to when cards are cut off.

Also were these people merely added onto the master expense account card,
or were they forced to go through the credit check merry-go-round so that
any unpaid for charges will come out of their own pockets in the end?


/i don't know where the Quorum fits in this
//someone needs to post what the actual agreement
to accepting those credit cards was
 
2012-11-08 11:43:47 PM  

tinyarena: theknuckler_33: Having a hard time thinking this is a big deal. I don't believe for a second that Romney personally had anything to do with it and I have no doubt any personal expenses will be reimbursed.

Romney got his ass kicked... it's over. I'm not interested in any manufactured outrage about him personally at this point. Who farking cares. He's done. That's all that matters.

Honestly theknuckler_33, there is a valid point to all of this. It shows us exactly what kind of people we were up against here. From the arrogance of running a sloppy campaign, to the willful ignorance of unskewing the already unskewed polls, to the indifference of not even getting their own people home, I'd say we're lucky we didn't put "those people" in charge.

/again


I'm just not getting that vibe from this. The campaign was over, time to shut things down. I'm sure they didn't want people buying tons of shiat on the cards on their way home. This way, people fork out of pocket and have to submit receipts that show legit expenses. Every business works this way. If a business were closing its doors, they'd cancel company credit cards right away because it is easier to reimburse people for legit expenses than it is to recoup money from people you are no longer sending paychecks to for illegitimate charges they may have put on the company credit card as they were being booted out the door.

I mean, I guess I can see that this says something about Romney personally or his campaign in general... but he already lost. He's done. Who cares at this point? Does this make me MORE glad that he didn't get elected? Not even a little bit. If that makes you feel better that he wasn't elected... that's cool. It doesn't do anything for me, that's all.
 
2012-11-08 11:44:38 PM  

The_Sponge: Meh....the Obama campaign probably would have done the same thing.


Nah, he was too busy winning.
 
2012-11-08 11:44:53 PM  
i1125.photobucket.com

/Can you die of schadenfreude poisoning?
 
2012-11-08 11:45:18 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Eh, their job was done and the campaign finance people were just trying to head off human nature (i.e. let's spend this shiat!). You don't expect to be able to hang out at the office and use the copier after you are let go/fired.


No, but if I'm sacked while out of town on company business I very farking much expect to have my hotel tab picked up.

And I'll say it again: the best part of the whole thing is that one of the books they try to get you to read in order to make you chow down on this sort of shiat sandwich with a smile is called, "The Road To Serfdom." Protip: it's a cookbook.
 
2012-11-08 11:45:23 PM  

kevinatilusa: Why not just link to the NBC story?


somebody's check at 'newsroom-l' probably cleared.
 
2012-11-08 11:45:33 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: What's he got to lose anyway? He's done as far as ever running for anything again. Why would he give a rat's ass about it. The only thing he has to worry about is the people who gave untold millions, the Koch brother and the like that supported him. He knows his goose is cooked.


"Finally, I don't have to pander to these assholes anymore! Driver, pull over! I want to kick that homeless person!"
 
2012-11-08 11:46:41 PM  
To add insult to injury, the "W" key had been removed from their smartphones.
 
2012-11-08 11:46:56 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: this is just kinda sad and pathetic.
the next few days are going to be full of shiat like this.


I agree. I never laugh about people (the cogs) getting treated like this. Grace of God,
and it's too easy for this shiat to happen to anyone, including everyone
on this thread.
 
2012-11-08 11:47:18 PM  
Wait, you actually get paid to do that? Huh, here I was thinking it was all volunteer effort. Maybe I should get involved next time.
 
2012-11-08 11:49:31 PM  
I am only surprised Romney and family did not start grabbing the platters of food from the buffet table and hustle them back to their Limos for safe keeping when Obama's numbers were coming in
 
2012-11-08 11:51:34 PM  
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hotlink
 
2012-11-08 11:51:42 PM  
People who work for a guy who made hundreds of millions by firing people, locking them out of their plants, cancelling their health insurance and putting a stop payment on their checks surprised when he cancels their cards. Did you think he cared about you personally? You worked for him, you mean nothing.
 
2012-11-08 11:51:47 PM  
theknuckler_33
... I have no doubt any personal expenses will be reimbursed.

Do you know how I know that you don't work in politics?
 
2012-11-08 11:52:35 PM  

Magic_Button: I am only surprised Romney and family did not start grabbing the platters of food from the buffet table and hustle them back to their Limos for safe keeping when Obama's numbers were coming in


It took Romney so long to make his concession speech because he an Anne were snatching crackers out of people's mouths and refilling the champagne bottles a glass at a time.
 
2012-11-08 11:54:51 PM  
Do candidates for elected office keep donations to their campaigns for personal use after they lose or drop out? Or do those donations have to go into a greater party fund?

FULL ANSWER

As Bob Biersack from the Federal Election Commission points out, most candidates don't have much left over to begin with. Campaigning is expensive, and "leftover" money gets used for bills and debts first, including expenses incurred while winding down an abandoned campaign or a lost political office.

Candidates do sometimes end up with surplus funds, though, particularly if they're incumbent members of Congress who decide not to run for another term. State and local governments have their own rules, but those running for federal office - including presidential candidates - must abide by strict FEC guidelines when it comes to their extra campaign money. They can donate an unlimited amount to a charity or political party. They can also, within limits, make contributions directly to other candidates. A campaign committee can give up to $2000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5000 - but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.

What candidates can't do with leftover money is use it for personal expenses. Retiring federal lawmakers used to be able to pocket extra cash and use it for cars, vacations, clothes, pet grooming, whatever - but that changed in 1989 with the passage of the Ethics Reform Act.

- Jess Henig
Sources

Federal Election Commission. "Permissible non-campaign use of funds." Code of Federal Regulations. 1 Jan. 2007.
 
2012-11-08 11:55:05 PM  

theknuckler_33: tinyarena: theknuckler_33: Having a hard time thinking this is a big deal. I don't believe for a second that Romney personally had anything to do with it and I have no doubt any personal expenses will be reimbursed.

Romney got his ass kicked... it's over. I'm not interested in any manufactured outrage about him personally at this point. Who farking cares. He's done. That's all that matters.

Honestly theknuckler_33, there is a valid point to all of this. It shows us exactly what kind of people we were up against here. From the arrogance of running a sloppy campaign, to the willful ignorance of unskewing the already unskewed polls, to the indifference of not even getting their own people home, I'd say we're lucky we didn't put "those people" in charge.

/again

I'm just not getting that vibe from this. The campaign was over, time to shut things down. I'm sure they didn't want people buying tons of shiat on the cards on their way home. This way, people fork out of pocket and have to submit receipts that show legit expenses. Every business works this way. If a business were closing its doors, they'd cancel company credit cards right away because it is easier to reimburse people for legit expenses than it is to recoup money from people you are no longer sending paychecks to for illegitimate charges they may have put on the company credit card as they were being booted out the door.

I mean, I guess I can see that this says something about Romney personally or his campaign in general... but he already lost. He's done. Who cares at this point? Does this make me MORE glad that he didn't get elected? Not even a little bit. If that makes you feel better that he wasn't elected... that's cool. It doesn't do anything for me, that's all.



That's a good argument.

If they were promised one thing, however, in regards to those cards, and the promise fell through then that's not cool. Again, it depends on what the agreement was when those cards were given out and accepted. This wasn't a Joe Shoestring Budget campaign. Every i should have been dotted, and every t should have been crossed, with the amount of money and 'business experience' allegedly at the top (and that includes the top donors who were making sure this thing was well-paid for).

If they knew they were going to be reimbursed, then biatching about cards being cancelled is ridiculous. If they don't know that they will be reimbursed, or if they were told after the fact that they would not be reimbursed, that's different. Again, this type of outcome should have been spelled out at the beginning. No surprises. It's not cool that the results of this type of outcome were not spelled out. That's not professional. That's very amateur.

If this was spelled out, however, and the folks thought they had time to get a couple last minute charges in, in spite of that, then f*kk 'em for sour grapes.
 
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