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(CBS News)   Romney "shellshocked" by loss. Normally, when I get shellshocked I put in another quarter and try using Donatello instead   (cbsnews.com) divider line 454
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2012-11-09 02:12:59 AM  

rynthetyn: limeyfellow: It no different than Romney brave service during Vietnam. I am not sure how he coped with the smell of burning and horror that was the burned croissant.

But the French still used squat toilets at the time, I'm sure that was a truly harrowing experience for him, he probably still has flashbacks.


You can still find them is some of the oldest cafes and restaurants.
Just a little threadjack : I hate squat toilets with a passion of a thousand suns, and I'm French. But I read that they are actually far more healthy for us, given that they put us in the correct position to crap, whereas the ''sitdown'' toilets make our excretions far more difficult than it needs to be. There are some statistics that 40% of hemorrhoids are due to sitdown toilets.
 
2012-11-09 02:16:33 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I've been around a while and these times we're going through are NOT the norm, and they never should be in America


So what's the norm? The 40s? The 60s? The 80s? The 90s?

What's your "norm?"

The world is always changing and your "norm" is over now, if it ever existed in the first place outside of your mind.

You make zero coherent points at all, and therefore you don't deserve to be spoken to like an adult.
 
2012-11-09 02:18:43 AM  

padraig: rynthetyn: limeyfellow: It no different than Romney brave service during Vietnam. I am not sure how he coped with the smell of burning and horror that was the burned croissant.

But the French still used squat toilets at the time, I'm sure that was a truly harrowing experience for him, he probably still has flashbacks.

You can still find them is some of the oldest cafes and restaurants.
Just a little threadjack : I hate squat toilets with a passion of a thousand suns, and I'm French. But I read that they are actually far more healthy for us, given that they put us in the correct position to crap, whereas the ''sitdown'' toilets make our excretions far more difficult than it needs to be. There are some statistics that 40% of hemorrhoids are due to sitdown toilets.


I actually don't mind squat toilets. A dirty squat bathroom is a heck of a lot less gross than a dirty sit down bathroom.
 
2012-11-09 02:19:44 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Why did you feel that Barack Obama deserved your vote more than Mitt Romney?


Because Romney is a member of a party that is anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-minority, anti-poor, and anti-human.

And I believe the rich should be taxed heavily. Oh no, they can't afford that yacht this year, how terrible for them.

Not only did Obama deserve my vote more, Romney and his ilk deserve nothing but contempt from decent Americans.
 
2012-11-09 02:39:48 AM  
I was quite pleased to read that Ann Romney cried.
 
2012-11-09 02:44:08 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: coeyagi: A higher percentage of companies went bankrupt under Bain's rape than those who went bankrupt after getting government-backed loans since 1/20/09

Let's assume for arguments sake that the statement you just made is completely true. It's still irrelevant. Obama's failures are somehow justified by the failures of Bain capital? Were those companies that you allege went bankrupt under Bain funded with our paychecks?

Why does Obama get a free pass for stuff like this? Because he looks cool and gives a good speech? And I'll give him that, he is one hell of a speaker. But for the sake of your own children and theirs hold him accountable like the (extraordinarily) flawed human being that he is. He is your President, and for that reason you should be holding him to a much HIGHER standard. If liberals held Obama to to half the standard that they did Mitt Romney he would have been impeached six months into his Presidency.


I don't have children, but I do worry about the future. I worry about an educational system that bullies school boards into stripping science out of textbooks to placate religious organizations, anthropogenic global climate change, the concentration of vast amounts of wealth - and, by extension, power - into the hands of a very few, taxation that rewards companies that send jobs overseas, businesses with no oversight at all insisting that they can police themselves perfectly well, and the consequences of yet another pointless and expensive Middle East adventure in the name of God, America, and oil companies.

Without guarantees, you're asking me to trade the possibility of our children eating, drinking, and breathing poison, paying for their parents' war while under threat of the next generation of CIA-trained terrorists, getting every square inch of their asses beat in every academic field by every other country (which, shocker, has its own economic consequences), owned from cradle to grave by the monied class - which, also shocker, is not "freedom" - and graduating from high school with a literacy level insufficient to push buttons on a McDonald's cash register.

The alternative is to improve our educational system to breed the next generation of entrepreneurs creating the next generation of industries, finding an alternative to flinging bombs at brown people, having some resources left over for our children's children, and a higher opportunity for class mobility, so that no one has to be a wage slave.

I'm not surprised that you can't see why the second bit is superior to the first. Republicans have very carefully trained their followers to expect immediate results. What we're trying to do is lay the groundwork for a sustainable next generation. It takes a long time and it is not easy. You want our children to have jobs. I want them to have DRINKING WATER. These two goals are not mutually exclusive, so a Republican (Boehner) telling me that we just can't afford all this government intervention anymore lacks credibility.

Rebuttal?
 
2012-11-09 02:44:49 AM  

Vectron: Wouldn't it be funny if George Bush turns out to be the last gentile, white, male US president? We many never have one again. It may be women, blacks, Jews, and hispanics from here on out.


There were no WASPs on this year's ticket on either side.

Wrap your head around that.
 
2012-11-09 02:58:43 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: coeyagi: A higher percentage of companies went bankrupt under Bain's rape than those who went bankrupt after getting government-backed loans since 1/20/09

Let's assume for arguments sake that the statement you just made is completely true. It's still irrelevant. Obama's failures are somehow justified by the failures of Bain capital? Were those companies that you allege went bankrupt under Bain funded with our paychecks?


Go learn some real-world finance so you have an inkling of the baseline failure rate for new business ventures when the company is developing entirely new manufacturing processes. My nose is still bleeding from the facepalm.


Then go educate yourself on Bain's 1990 FDIC bailout. The few documents that got past Bain's lawyers without a complete blackout paint a picture of greed that buggers the imagination.
Romney's first offer when Bain defaulted on the $30.9 million loan: The FDIC would have to accept thirty-five cents on the dollar in repayment or Romney would distribute cash to Bain executives as bonuses. FDIC told him to bugger off, so he distributed BAINLAWYERCENSORED millions in bonuses to Bain executives.
Second round: Romney told the FDIC that Bain would pay up to 30 cents on the dollar or the rest of the money would go to bonuses. This time the FDIC ate the loss.
 
2012-11-09 03:03:01 AM  

Vectron: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: inconnu: The degree of lefty crowing about this election just ensures that they'll get their comeuppance in the hardest way possible, when the pendulum swings again. You think Hillary or Biden is gonna swing 2016? I don't think so.

The Republican party will never win another national election as long as they remain today's Republicans. There are not enough gullible Fox viewers, white men, millionaires, evangelicals and racists to put together a majority.

What do you picture the party morphing into? The can't out Democrat the Democrats.

70% of Jews, Hispanics and Asians voted for the Democrats. Also the majority of single mothers. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama, That is real identity politics.

By racist, I assume you mean white people. What's wrong with white people having someone that represents their interests.


When did "white people" become a monolithic culture?
 
2012-11-09 03:11:05 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: Minus 1 Charisma: I don't agree with the Republicans on everything, but the economy should be everyone's top priority. Without a thriving economy, nothing else matters. Whether your issue is birth control, gay marriage or legalizing marijuana - look I agree with all of those things as well, but as a logical human being that regularly exercises intellectual honesty I can tell you that none of that shiat matters when we're in debt up to our eyeballs and the economic growth doesn't even keep up with population growth.

I am a true swing voter. I'm a conservative, but I'm also an athiest. I have voted both ways. In this election I voted Romney. I am disgusted that he didn't win. The fact that the people of our country voted Obama back in in these economic conditions should scare the living shiat out of all of us. I've been around a while and these times we're going through are NOT the norm, and they never should be in America. Maybe if you're reading this you are just too young to know. People used to have enough to get by and then some. If you're not feeling it yet you will. And believe it or not when the (evil?) rich people feel it the poor people feel it too. Just read history.

Obama's economic performance is staggeringly poor. It's been a complete fail. With the implementation of the Affordable Health Care act we are going to be completely boned beyond repair. While I agree that the health care system was broken and that health care ebing a right is worth debate = Obama care was not the answer. It is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are farked now. Farked. And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.

You guys have doomed yourselves and you don't even know it yet. You cheer America's demise. Grab a calculator. We're completely farked. WOOPIE!! 

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. ...


Presidential Candidate Romney specifically said that he would see to it that the government of Syria is overthrown. Frankly, if I were Syria, I would consider that an act of war, and act accordingly. I think Romney would've had us at war with another nation by next the first Tuesday he was in power.
 
2012-11-09 03:15:22 AM  

novalord2: I was quite pleased to read that Ann Romney cried.


They were tears of joy, because she didn't want to move to a smaller house.
 
2012-11-09 03:41:46 AM  
ignatius_crumbcake -

Blame eight years of bush, not four years of clean up. The GOP and all the little imps created this "NOT the norm" situation. Thousands of economists predicted this, and the reich-wing mocked us by stating dems think "the sky is falling". It was falling. People like you farked the nation.

Live with it.
 
2012-11-09 03:49:59 AM  
ignatius_crumbcake -

oopy, i really mean -

Minus 1 Charisma 
 
2012-11-09 03:53:54 AM  

JerkyMeat: ignatius_crumbcake -

Blame eight years of bush, not four years of clean up. The GOP and all the little imps created this "NOT the norm" situation. Thousands of economists predicted this, and the reich-wing mocked us by stating dems think "the sky is falling". It was falling. People like you farked the nation.

Live with it.


It is funny though, hearing the Fark Independents biatch and moan "Fartbama's not cleaning up the mess we made FAST ENOUGH! Let's elect the guy whose foreign policy advisor is the guy that shiat on the rug!"
 
2012-11-09 04:15:38 AM  

impaler: RexTalionis: Actually, Romney also had a system to track voter turnout on Election Day. The Problem was that it crashed at around 9:30 or 10:00 AM EST and they couldn't get it back up.

Must have outsourced IT to get a better bottom line.


I thought that but nah.. this lot have no probs forking out the dough when It's for them..

Could it be Obama's IT guys were like Bruce and Jay z and Romney's lot like kid cock and Nugent?

.. y'know it's tough for the republicans to find volunteers in certain vocational sectors.. can't think why

/lol
 
2012-11-09 04:19:23 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: If so, tell me why you believe this. Or are you just parroting something you've been told? I'm not being facetious, I want to know. I want you to make your case.


I can answer it really simple:

Reaganomics was a economic system employed by Republican financial experts in the 80s that likened wealth distribution to a bucket -- that if they fill it with enough water, it will overflow and trickle down to everyone below. And they went about about putting this theory into practice by trying to overflow the wealth buckets of the rich classes through keen legislation, deregulation and of course tax cuts.

But every time the buckets got full, the rich just went and got bigger buckets.

After 30 years, none of it has trickled down below, and this is bad for the economy and the American people.

The end.
 
2012-11-09 04:19:31 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Minus 1 Charisma: I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why they voted Obama so I can respond. I see a post with 1000 cut and pasted graphs from obamatron.com

I wouldn't be so quick to ignore those graphs. Remember, your boys got themselves in the position they're in by writing off all the math as "from obamatron.com".

and a bunch of "yer a stupid-head" snark-comments (which I expected).

Welcome to Fark.

Just in case you're serious, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and explain why I pulled for Obama: because he's done a good job. Could he have done better? Sure. But he stopped the bleeding of jobs, and has slowly improved things since then (yes, yes, I know, we'd be in exactly the same position if he'd done nothing, sure we would and Bob's your uncle). He saved the American auto industry. He pushed health care reform through, and even if it isn't the exact health care reform I wanted to see, it's a damn sight better than what we had before. Same goes for financial reform; I may have wanted to see more, but Dodd-Frank is better than what we had. He got Bin Laden by doing exactly what he said he was going to do, even when everybody else called him naive for saying it (and of course, all the Monday morning quarterbacks came out of the woodwork afterwards to say they'd totes do the same thing). He took care of a very sticky situation in Libya without setting boots on the ground. He did exactly what he said he would in Iraq and Afghanistan; he got us out of Iraq, doubled-down on Afghanistan, got the job done there, and now we have a timetable to get the hell out of there too. Oh, and DADT is done, too.

And all those loans there? The ones where you want to cherry-pick the losers? I think he was right to make them. Of course some of them aren't going to work out. If these investments were a sure thing, the government wouldn't have had to make the loans; the banks would be falling all over themselves to make them. But, regardless of the risk, we have n ...


I have no problems with President Obama trying to seed green energy in the U.S. There was nothing malicious in his intent. It is about ensuring the future of the U.S. economically and millitarily. The less connected our economy is to the instability of the world oil market, the more stable it is. This is a long term goal with no instant payoffs but the long term payoff will be massive.

My only problem with the whole thing is how President Obama chose to seed the industry. He chose to do it the conservative trickle-down way by giving loans to manufacturers to expand and hire more workers, basically increasing supply. He should have taken the money spent in loans and just gave it directly to the American consumer to upgrade their homes and businesses with stuff like solar panels, increasing th demand of the product and letting the money trickle up to the comanies from the consumer.

This is also why I support President Obama's plan to cut taxes on the working class and slightly raise taxes on the wealthy to use in infrastructure investments, which put money back in local economies creating more demand for products and services. Call me crazy but I have always believed businesses thrive on customers and a 0% tax rate don't mean squat if there are no customers. Last I checked the problem with the economy isn't supply, it's lack of demand. Mitt Romney would have just doubled down on the supply side.
 
2012-11-09 05:10:41 AM  
This is the worst psychological trauma he had since he went to Paris for the Mormon church instead of fighting in Vietnam and some French guy told him he thought the US shouldn't be in Vietnam.

This guy has suffered.
 
2012-11-09 05:29:15 AM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: jst3p:

If what jst3p said was too long for you, let me put it this way.

Take a look at October 2006 through October 2009 (When Obama's first budget went into effect) and compare it to October 2009 through October 2012. The improvement is amazing.

Any argument about Obama and the economy is invalid. The people who think that it might be are either fooling themselves or don't understand just how terrible 2006-2009 was.


Or they are just really bad at math.

/Addition! How does it work?
 
2012-11-09 05:40:04 AM  
If you Republican folks want to avoid feeling like this, try taking time to air out that flooded bomb shelter you call a mind and take a walk.
 
2012-11-09 05:45:25 AM  
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Is someone going to catch the black guy that did this to her face?
 
2012-11-09 06:11:33 AM  
Wait... they didn't concede because of Rove's claims on Fox? But he was objecting because of what he claimed Romney's people we're telling him...

It's like a circular human centipede.
 
2012-11-09 06:17:20 AM  

ilambiquated: This is the worst psychological trauma he had since he went to Paris for the Mormon church instead of fighting in Vietnam and couldn't get any café, wine or easy chicks.

This guy has suffered.


FTFY.
 
2012-11-09 06:40:24 AM  

InmanRoshi: It's a little bit too obvious of a Godwin, but this entire article is begging for a Downfall parody of Romney Headquarters on election night. .


There are some great ones up already, but this is my favorite. It's not the funniest, but it's pretty damned accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx0ZmiVl2hU


For sheer lulz, there's this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxTqvv60Hgs


Never has Godwinning been so fun! :)
 
2012-11-09 06:54:05 AM  

Mrembo: whidbey: MrEricSir: Romney will find a new job.

The person to feel bad for is Karl Rove. His career is ruined.

I doubt it. All he has to do is reinvent himself and the cash comes rolling in.

I don't think he will be able to talk his way out of this one.


Quite. His current arguments are that without his tactics, Romney would have lost "by more" -- as if that matters, and that Obama managed to "demotivate" voters -- when it was his job to motivate them.

Essentially: cry moar.

The kicker is that he acknowledges that he didn't know the makeup of the country he was fighting in. Holy crapola is that stupid.
 
2012-11-09 07:12:44 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: coeyagi: A higher percentage of companies went bankrupt under Bain's rape than those who went bankrupt after getting government-backed loans since 1/20/09

Let's assume for arguments sake that the statement you just made is completely true. It's still irrelevant. Obama's failures are somehow justified by the failures of Bain capital? Were those companies that you allege went bankrupt under Bain funded with our paychecks?


It is true. As for the rest of your assertions regarding that program, et voila:

Those silly facts!

Assuming you can read above a 5th grade level, this will help you out enormously. You're welcome.

/Apologies for spoon-feeding the troll. I guess I have a soft heart for those who cry for internet attention. Not their fault they didn't get enough hugs and pudding as a child.
 
2012-11-09 07:26:56 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Hickory-smoked: I'm guessing you probably don't care much for Rachel Maddow, but if it you're willing to actually sit and listen for 16 minutes, she could explain it so much better than I can.

I watched that clip this morning at work, I watch Maddow almost nightly. I think she is a smug, closed-minded coont, but I watch with fascination - how could someone so intelligent be so closed-minded and sure of her opinions?
Also when I say "I don't like" a particular talking head I like to do so from experience. That is not to imply that you personally do not but I have met so many people that despise this right-winger or that right winger and after some probing they have never even watched/listened to them.

Rachel Maddow is the Glenn Beck of the left. Actually she is worse. Her snark is so incredibly cringe-worthy that like a car accident I can't look away.


Wait Rachel Maddow is a Mormon?
 
2012-11-09 07:27:51 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Fart_Machine: I have a feeling Minus 1 Charisma won't be back.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why they voted Obama so I can respond. I see a post with 1000 cut and pasted graphs from obamatron.com and a bunch of "yer a stupid-head" snark-comments (which I expected).


I didn't vote for Obama. I'm not a US citizen. I'm glad you got whatever you 'expected'. Truly, you see 1,000 steps ahead. You are the great anticipator.

Why did you feel that Barack Obama deserved your vote more than Mitt Romney?

If I had been a US citizen, I would have voted for Obama. The economy is strengthening. Healthcare is passed if not implemented. Obama prosecutes the war on terror in a broadly intelligent way and has acted to end the war in Iraq.

Romney kept changing his mind on things. It was really irritating. I also thought he came out of the Republican primaries very wounded and unready for a real campaign, which is a bit strange because he had been through the Primary process before and I expected better planning from him.

Because Romney was wealthy?

No. I don't mind people being wealthy. How they get their wealth can be an issue. Doing it well, with nobility and creativity, is laudable ... but despite his wealth, Romney appears to be a poor manager.

I don't know about you but I'd rather have a wealthy guy in charge of the economy.

That's like saying you'd rather have a gorilla in charge of the banana supply, because at least you're certain the gorilla likes bananas.

Because he is a Mormon? Do you think he is going to pass a law that we all have to be at Church on Sundays? The guy didn't even drink alcohol. It was pretty amazing. The guy seemed like a farking decent guy. It's disgusting the way he was demonized.

I don't think he has been demonised. His record got held up. Obama's record is simply better. I remember when he tried to mock Obama for having a Harvard education. There's something rather wrong with people who do that -- attempting to make a point to which they themselves are vulnerable. I don't think he's 'decent'; I think he's just an opportunist.

Bush sucked. Fark George Bush. I agree. But Romney is not George Bush any more than Obama is Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter. Well maybe Jimmy Carter ;)

Romney's economic policies fit with Bush's. Unfunded tax cuts. Again.

Many of your posts seem to make the point that "Well the economy is growing...kinda." It's not growing at an acceptable rate.

It seems to have been acceptable enough for the electorate, so you probably need to have another look at your assertion, there.

We spent 6 trillion dollars getting us to exactly where we were predicted to be had we not used a stimulus at all. It was enough to write a check for every citizen of the US for about $3000. Now I'm no Paul Krugman, but I'm pretty sure that as ridiculous as that option sounds it would have been better than throwing the money into the giant black hole that is green energy

Change takes time and costs.

The following is a list of "green" companies...

On the bright side, the successful companies will repay their loans. Kinda neat, yeh?
 
2012-11-09 07:40:17 AM  
Mittens thought he won the election when he "won" the first debate. Beyond that, I don't know--maybe there was religious faith, maybe a belief in his own destiny. Bubbles are hard to analyze.

Forty-seven percent, Mitt. Forty-seven percent. We heard you, and we didn't laugh it off.

The forty-seven percent heard you call them lazy, irresponsible scum, and they were energized to vote against you. That's why you lost. Of course, the wackos in your party talking about the virtues of rape didn't help. But this was primarily the forty-seven percent.
 
2012-11-09 07:44:17 AM  
Heh... These assholes had a $25,000 fireworks display ready to go off in Boston Harbor. This is what happens when you surround yourself with "Yes" men. I feel no sympathy or compassion for any of those assholes. In fact, their sorrow has been amusing me since Tuesday evening.
 
2012-11-09 07:47:09 AM  

Kibbler: The forty-seven percent heard you call them lazy, irresponsible scum, and they were energized to vote against you. That's why you lost. Of course, the wackos in your party talking about the virtues of rape didn't help. But this was primarily the forty-seven percent.


Exactly... I was never going to vote for that shameless plutocrat anyway, but in those few seconds, Romney emphatically showed the country what he thought of the average American.
 
2012-11-09 07:57:45 AM  

jst3p: Deeply religious people are accustomed to holding on to a "truth" even when verifiable facts contradict this "truth" so long as many people also hold on to this "truth". They believe the earth is 6000 years old. They believe people were created as a species, did not evolve. They believe dinosaurs are a trick to test their faith. They believe the global climate is not changing. Given all that it isn't difficult to understand that they could believe "the polls are all wrong" regardless of the facts. Facts are irrelevant if they know the "truth" about something.


I love you.
 
2012-11-09 08:15:31 AM  

padraig: There are some statistics that 40% of hemorrhoids are due to sitdown toilets


I make sure the seat cover is in the upright position before I do my business.
 
2012-11-09 08:16:54 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I don't agree with the Republicans on everything, but the economy should be everyone's top priority. Without a thriving economy, nothing else matters. Whether your issue is birth control, gay marriage or legalizing marijuana - look I agree with all of those things as well, but as a logical human being that regularly exercises intellectual honesty I can tell you that none of that shiat matters when we're in debt up to our eyeballs and the economic growth doesn't even keep up with population growth.

I am a true swing voter. I'm a conservative, but I'm also an athiest. I have voted both ways. In this election I voted Romney. I am disgusted that he didn't win. The fact that the people of our country voted Obama back in in these economic conditions should scare the living shiat out of all of us. I've been around a while and these times we're going through are NOT the norm, and they never should be in America. Maybe if you're reading this you are just too young to know. People used to have enough to get by and then some. If you're not feeling it yet you will. And believe it or not when the (evil?) rich people feel it the poor people feel it too. Just read history.

Obama's economic performance is staggeringly poor. It's been a complete fail. With the implementation of the Affordable Health Care act we are going to be completely boned beyond repair. While I agree that the health care system was broken and that health care ebing a right is worth debate = Obama care was not the answer. It is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are farked now. Farked. And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.

You guys have doomed yourselves and you don't even know it yet. You cheer America's demise. Grab a calculator. We're completely farked. WOOPIE!! 

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same.


I don't know if someone already has, but if not will someone please post for this chucklehead that giant list of figures, charts, data, and links that shows the economy has improved under every measurable metric under Obama?

And please ask him to refute this data, as we're obviously living in a post-mathematical world where recent data has been shown to be completely skewed.
 
2012-11-09 08:26:00 AM  

Bladel: It must have been awful, to have been completely blindsided like that. Going in to the night thinking everything is great, you were living the dream...then BAM: rejection from nameless, faceless people you have never even met.

Just like if your company had been purchased by Bain.


i3.kym-cdn.com

golf clap, sir
 
2012-11-09 08:33:11 AM  
The Dreaded Rear Admiral:
Minus 1 Charisma: "I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same."

I don't know if someone already has, but if not will someone please post for this chucklehead that giant list of figures, charts, data, and links that shows the economy has improved under every measurable metric under Obama?

And please ask him to refute this data, as we're obviously living in a post-mathematical world where recent data has been shown to be completely skewed.


He did receive the Wall of Shiny Facts, but I believe the official response was somewhere along the lines of, "Maths? We don't need no stinkin' maths!" Then we all heard a loud noise, and he asked for pudding. It was adorbs.
 
2012-11-09 08:40:54 AM  
For anyone still reading this thread, here's the Politico article about Mitt's voter-turnout tracking system which crashed and burned on Election day. It was called ORCA, so Politico dubbed it "Romney's fail whale."
 
2012-11-09 09:06:52 AM  

stoli n coke: JerkyMeat: ignatius_crumbcake -

Blame eight years of bush, not four years of clean up. The GOP and all the little imps created this "NOT the norm" situation. Thousands of economists predicted this, and the reich-wing mocked us by stating dems think "the sky is falling". It was falling. People like you farked the nation.

Live with it.

It is funny though, hearing the Fark Independents biatch and moan "Fartbama's not cleaning up the mess we made FAST ENOUGH! Let's elect the guy whose foreign policy advisor is the guy that shiat on the rug!"


That rug really tied the room together, too.
 
2012-11-09 09:10:56 AM  

Confabulat: Minus 1 Charisma: Why did you feel that Barack Obama deserved your vote more than Mitt Romney?

Because Romney is a member of a party that is anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-minority, anti-poor, and anti-human.

And I believe the rich should be taxed heavily. Oh no, they can't afford that yacht this year, how terrible for them.

Not only did Obama deserve my vote more, Romney and his ilk deserve nothing but contempt from decent Americans.


It isn't even being taxed "more" (or at least I think how most people think that should be done, which is 'raising tax rates'), it is being taxed more "fairly"... tighten up the loopholes, don't give them the ability to hire tax attorneys that can save them $2 for every $1 they spend on the lawyers. Honestly, you don't have to change the tax rates one iota to get a lot more taxes from the extremely rich... you just need to cut out all of shenanigans they knowingly put into the code.

It is the exact point that Jon Stewart has pointed out repeatedly:
"But, alas, Ohio - and the election - was called, and President Obama won another term. According to Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin, Americans who feel they are entitled to "things" cast their vote for the president who give them handouts.
"What an incredible story to tell yourselves," Stewart said. "We would've won if it weren't for the moral failings of the non-real America. Fox lost because last night, minorities, who feel entitled to things, came and took the country away form the self-sufficient, white, Medicare retirees and upper class tax avoidance experts - or, as they're also known, your audience.""
 
2012-11-09 09:22:10 AM  

NowhereMon: Is it like that time he got a bad escargot when he was in France


He was on the shiatter during the Tet Offensive. Don't tell him that he doesn't know suffering and war.
 
2012-11-09 09:22:25 AM  

RexTalionis: For anyone still reading this thread, here's the Politico article about Mitt's voter-turnout tracking system which crashed and burned on Election day. It was called ORCA, so Politico dubbed it "Romney's fail whale."


I misread that as "Romney's whale tail."

a.abcnews.go.com

...I should probably just go to bed.

*shudder*
 
2012-11-09 09:22:42 AM  

SwissArmyGnome: These aren't just the ravings of some modern-day Rasputin, a mad-man instituting a draconian crackdown at the state fair!


Wow, Melora Creager has a Fark account.
 
2012-11-09 09:32:57 AM  

Minus 1 Charisma: The following is a list of "green" companies funded by the "stimulus" that have gone bankrupt or are teetering on the edge of doing so: ("*" denotes companies that have already gone bankrupt)


Not worth a reply with seeing your sources. The last time this balloon was floated it shown extremely questionable at best, as qualifiers like 'teetering' would suggest.
 
2012-11-09 10:17:26 AM  
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Lifeless eyes. Dead eyes. Like a doll's eyes
 
2012-11-09 10:24:11 AM  

Dimensio: MAME


upload.wikimedia.org

"MAME!"
 
2012-11-09 10:29:50 AM  

TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.


The Koch Bros. cancelled his credit line.
 
2012-11-09 12:16:52 PM  
Subby has won the internet for the day.
 
2012-11-09 01:10:51 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Hickory-smoked: I'm guessing you probably don't care much for Rachel Maddow, but if it you're willing to actually sit and listen for 16 minutes, she could explain it so much better than I can.

I watched that clip this morning at work, I watch Maddow almost nightly. I think she is a smug, closed-minded coont, but I watch with fascination - how could someone so intelligent be so closed-minded and sure of her opinions?
Also when I say "I don't like" a particular talking head I like to do so from experience. That is not to imply that you personally do not but I have met so many people that despise this right-winger or that right winger and after some probing they have never even watched/listened to them.

Rachel Maddow is the Glenn Beck of the left. Actually she is worse. Her snark is so incredibly cringe-worthy that like a car accident I can't look away.


LOL~! You're damn funny; you should try being on Amateur Night at the Apollo~!
 
2012-11-09 01:52:45 PM  

SpectroBoy: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x360]

Lifeless eyes. Dead eyes. Like a doll's eyes


I find this photo 100% disturbing.
 
2012-11-09 02:02:39 PM  
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www.whudat.com
 
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