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2012-11-09 12:14:16 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That's very astute. That Community Organizer's people were on the ball. Being more efficient is how you run a business. Throwing more money at a problem is how you deal with an untreated gambling addiction.


Rynthetyn mentioned upthread (and others have mentioned before that Obama runs an incredible campaign. Meanwhile we've seen Republicans run the Romney and Mccain clusterfarks (and it really seems like the only reason that Bush won was luck, if Rove's recent history is any proof).

Yet we are told constantly that Republicans and only Republicans can run things efficiently with little to no actual evidence to support that assertion.
 
2012-11-09 12:14:39 AM

mrshowrules: InmanRoshi: mrshowrules: There is some bullshiat going on here. Romney knew they were down by 5% in Ohio on Sunday (2 days before the election) based on their own internal polls. Someone's lying.

Agreed. I think it's just spinning. Better to say you were self deluded and surprise than to admit you were a complete liar and bullshiat artist.

That's not to say there probably weren't some DERPers on some outer rings of the staff who were drinking Kool Aid, but I think the real small inside circle guys knew the reality.

Basically this. It was a calculated lie to lose gracefully. They lied even at the last possible thing you can lie on.


Ah. :( That's retarded then. There is no grace in this, what were they thinking?
 
2012-11-09 12:15:45 AM

Dimensio: I recently installed MAME for the specific purpose of playing the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade games. The headline therefore amuses me.


4 Player TMNT is best TMNT.
 
2012-11-09 12:17:37 AM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: All in all, though, I'm pretty happy with Obama's stewardship and with Obama the man.


Exactly right. I'm in my twenties, and I'm pretty sure when my time comes I'll consider Barack Obama the best President of my life. And I'm quite happy with that.
 
2012-11-09 12:20:37 AM

BSABSVR: ExperianScaresCthulhu: That's very astute. That Community Organizer's people were on the ball. Being more efficient is how you run a business. Throwing more money at a problem is how you deal with an untreated gambling addiction.

Rynthetyn mentioned upthread (and others have mentioned before that Obama runs an incredible campaign. Meanwhile we've seen Republicans run the Romney and Mccain clusterfarks (and it really seems like the only reason that Bush won was luck, if Rove's recent history is any proof).

Yet we are told constantly that Republicans and only Republicans can run things efficiently with little to no actual evidence to support that assertion.


Did you hear? The party that started two wars and lowered taxes, guaranteeing a massive debt are the fiscally responsible ones.
 
2012-11-09 12:21:30 AM

DamnYankees: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: All in all, though, I'm pretty happy with Obama's stewardship and with Obama the man.

Exactly right. I'm in my twenties, and I'm pretty sure when my time comes I'll consider Barack Obama the best President of my life. And I'm quite happy with that.


But there are so many Presidents yet to come.
 
2012-11-09 12:21:44 AM

Sum Dum Gai: 2. Even failed companies aren't a total loss. Their intellectual property remains, and can help to drive the industry forward even if it's done by other players. Likewise, even a promising road that ultimately ends up being a dead-end advances the field.


I'd also add this. The money didn't just disappear into the ether. It went to the employees of those companies while they were open, to their suppliers and contractors, and then right back into the economy. Efficient use of stimulus funds? Not directly. But it was spent, and spent in the local economies for those companies. It's not like the money went into a black hole where it just moves back and forth between financial instruments, fostering no consumer demand, creating no jobs, or freezing innovation for over a decade.

Hey wait - that's exactly what happens to money that goes to Romney and his pals.
 
2012-11-09 12:23:06 AM
Mitt was so upset that he ordered the butler to commit suicide for him.

/Well, that's what I heard.
 
2012-11-09 12:24:01 AM
I used to think there was some sort of realpolitik circle of leaders within the GOP, who knew objective reality but twisted it for their own ends. I don't think that anymore. They started believing their own bullshiat as much as the rubes who vote for them.
 
2012-11-09 12:24:17 AM

clkeagle: Sum Dum Gai: 2. Even failed companies aren't a total loss. Their intellectual property remains, and can help to drive the industry forward even if it's done by other players. Likewise, even a promising road that ultimately ends up being a dead-end advances the field.

I'd also add this. The money didn't just disappear into the ether. It went to the employees of those companies while they were open, to their suppliers and contractors, and then right back into the economy. Efficient use of stimulus funds? Not directly. But it was spent, and spent in the local economies for those companies. It's not like the money went into a black hole where it just moves back and forth between financial instruments, fostering no consumer demand, creating no jobs, or freezing innovation for over a decade.

Hey wait - that's exactly what happens to money that goes to Romney and his pals.


One small difference; if the government does it, Romney and his pals don't get their cut.
 
2012-11-09 12:24:34 AM
'the fark? How is he shocked by this? I'm shocked at how farking close it was. Obama should have blown him out of the water. I mean goddamn... I'm not even going to say anything except "goddamn" because everyone who isn't in the f*cking bubble knows exactly why I say it.
 
2012-11-09 12:25:30 AM

Hickory-smoked: Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney.

I'm guessing you probably don't care much for Rachel Maddow, but if it you're willing to actually sit and listen for 16 minutes, she could explain it so much better than I can.

Link.


I had not watched this. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD THAT WAS AMAZING
 
2012-11-09 12:26:50 AM
Speaking of people who are in complete denial of reality, is Allen West still refusing to admit that he lost the election?
 
2012-11-09 12:28:01 AM

qorkfiend: DamnYankees: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: All in all, though, I'm pretty happy with Obama's stewardship and with Obama the man.

Exactly right. I'm in my twenties, and I'm pretty sure when my time comes I'll consider Barack Obama the best President of my life. And I'm quite happy with that.

But there are so many Presidents yet to come.


Yes indeed. And I'll be thrilled and surprised if any are better than Mr. Obama.
 
2012-11-09 12:35:11 AM

DamnYankees: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: All in all, though, I'm pretty happy with Obama's stewardship and with Obama the man.

Exactly right. I'm in my twenties, and I'm pretty sure when my time comes I'll consider Barack Obama the best President of my life. And I'm quite happy with that.


My biggest beef with Obama is gitmo/civil liberties. Indefinite detention and all that. Hoping that will turn-around now that he has more political capital to spend than GWB ever had. And I would prefer it if he could snub israel more often.

My wettest wet dream right now is a Joe Biden run in '16. He has all the charisma of Bill Clinton and more, without the Blow job baggage.
 
2012-11-09 12:35:29 AM
I've been thinking .. I found this tumblr called whitepeoplemourningromney earlier today and I was pretty amused . . a lot of schadenfreude but I've come to realize that cons are hurting, disappointed, afraid .. but I wanted to tell them if anyone would read this that it's going to be ok.

Our guy won but he's pretty good. He's been in office for 4 years and he knows how this works. And believe it or not, you may not believe in his policies, but I think in the end they are pretty good. I think the conservative media has been doomsdaying this and when you hear the same thing over and over again, you end up believing it.

Since we have 4 more years of Obama, we need to work together. The fiscal cliff will need to be dealt with and we can only do that working together. .. I think we'll do it. We have no choice.

And we do it, and do it right .. the economy poised to take off. I've heard that we are looking to gain 12 million jobs in the next 4 years regardless who won. 3 million a year? That's pretty goddamn good.

/ not a troll
// seriously, we need to work together
 
2012-11-09 12:39:51 AM
"Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly."

A life of privilege, silver spoons and caviar.

But they couldn't buy the election. Such bitter tears.

Delicious.
 
2012-11-09 12:41:00 AM

hammettman: I kinda hope that Biden runs because he will crush the GOP crowd and I would include Christie in that crowd. For all the crowing about the Biden gaffs, the fact is, they are not really major or as big as the right wing noise machine would make them out to be. He is older, but there is a youthful vigor about him and he definitely connects with young people.


d2om8tvz4lgco4.cloudfront.net

I wouldn't be too sure about minor gaffes not being a big deal.
 
2012-11-09 12:45:18 AM

rynthetyn: Speaking of people who are in complete denial of reality, is Allen West still refusing to admit that he lost the election?


As far as I can tell. He's demanding a recount even though he lost by a large enough margin that the law says it's not necessary.
 
2012-11-09 12:46:19 AM
The Howard Dean pic reminds me, remember how controversial it was that he supported civil unions? Look at how much the country has changed in 8 years.
 
2012-11-09 12:46:39 AM

Minus 1 Charisma: The fact that the people of our country voted Obama back in in these economic conditions should scare the living shiat out of all of us.


When it's inevitable, you might as well just relax and enjoy it.


Minus 1 Charisma: And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.


THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.

Do not triviliaze this. How many laws have been introduced across the countryin the last two years that have anything to do with your penis? How many white males have tried to tell us rape was a blessing? The Republicans lost the election because of their fetal worship and utter disrespect for women. And minorities. White guys got outvoted because they are either rich, greedy bastards or knuckle-dragging, bible-thumping racist Neanderthals.

Unless the Republicans recognize that the rest of us do not exist only for breeding purposes, your amusement or your exploitation, and that we outnumber you and will outvote you, and that we are quite aware of the evil they are capable of, they will be extinct within a decade.
 
2012-11-09 12:47:16 AM

Hickory-smoked: Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney.

I'm guessing you probably don't care much for Rachel Maddow, but if it you're willing to actually sit and listen for 16 minutes, she could explain it so much better than I can.

Link.


That was epic. Loves me some Maddow. Thanks
 
2012-11-09 12:49:57 AM

rynthetyn: The Howard Dean pic reminds me, remember how controversial it was that he supported civil unions? Look at how much the country has changed in 8 years.


Man, you're right. The President outright supported gay marriage and he got re-elected. USA!
 
2012-11-09 12:50:18 AM

GhostFish: rynthetyn: Speaking of people who are in complete denial of reality, is Allen West still refusing to admit that he lost the election?

As far as I can tell. He's demanding a recount even though he lost by a large enough margin that the law says it's not necessary.


Guess he's discovering that in the real world you can't just get what you want by mock executing the right people.
 
2012-11-09 12:50:27 AM
I doubt anyone worth listening to will open up, but there's got to be a really good book about this campaign out there waiting.
 
2012-11-09 12:51:49 AM

jst3p: Never saw the name before so I thought he might be for real. I know better now.


Me also. I've only started "redding" people in the past few months.
 
2012-11-09 12:53:17 AM

cameroncrazy1984: rynthetyn: The Howard Dean pic reminds me, remember how controversial it was that he supported civil unions? Look at how much the country has changed in 8 years.

Man, you're right. The President outright supported gay marriage and he got re-elected. USA!


And all the states that voted on marriage voted in favor of equality. Heck, down here in Florida the GOP spent over a million dollars in a state house race and still couldn't beat the openly gay Equality Florida field organizer that never held a non-gay rights activist job in his life.
 
2012-11-09 12:54:41 AM

eddiesocket: Did you hear? The party that started two wars and lowered taxes, guaranteeing a massive debt are the fiscally responsible ones.


My understanding is that we spend way too much money, therefore we need to set Big Bird free and increase the size of the navy by a third.
 
2012-11-09 12:56:48 AM

BSABSVR: eddiesocket: Did you hear? The party that started two wars and lowered taxes, guaranteeing a massive debt are the fiscally responsible ones.

My understanding is that we spend way too much money, therefore we need to set Big Bird free and increase the size of the navy by a third.


Or Big Bird needs to be fitted with bunker-busters, pull his own weight.
 
2012-11-09 12:58:24 AM

Sum Dum Gai: 3. According to a recent, Republican-led audit of the green energy program, not only is the program as a whole projected to generate a net profit to taxpayers, it's projected to be more profitable than the initial estimates when Congress approved of it.


Link if you have one, please.
 
2012-11-09 01:08:28 AM
Found:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-09 01:19:55 AM
All liberals are lying homo loving economy hating socialists. And I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Leave your AIDS at home.
 
2012-11-09 01:25:35 AM
" "We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one."

Romney then said what they knew: it was over.

His personal assistant, Garrett Jackson, called his counterpart on Mr. Obama's staff, Marvin Nicholson. "Is your boss available?" Jackson asked.

Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly. "


xtupload.com

xtupload.com
 
2012-11-09 01:25:45 AM

sprawl15: All liberals are lying homo loving economy hating socialists. And I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Leave your AIDS at home.


+1
 
2012-11-09 01:27:13 AM

sprawl15: All liberals are lying homo loving economy hating socialists. And I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Leave your AIDS at home.


I wish I could leave my AIDS at home... :(
 
2012-11-09 01:29:35 AM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Hickory-smoked: Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney.

I'm guessing you probably don't care much for Rachel Maddow, but if it you're willing to actually sit and listen for 16 minutes, she could explain it so much better than I can.

Link.

That was epic. Loves me some Maddow. Thanks


Ugh 14 minutes of gloating and 1 minute of sense
 
2012-11-09 01:29:47 AM

AeAe: I've been thinking .. I found this tumblr called whitepeoplemourningromney earlier today and I was pretty amused . . a lot of schadenfreude but I've come to realize that cons are hurting, disappointed, afraid .. but I wanted to tell them if anyone would read this that it's going to be ok.

Our guy won but he's pretty good. He's been in office for 4 years and he knows how this works. And believe it or not, you may not believe in his policies, but I think in the end they are pretty good. I think the conservative media has been doomsdaying this and when you hear the same thing over and over again, you end up believing it.

Since we have 4 more years of Obama, we need to work together. The fiscal cliff will need to be dealt with and we can only do that working together. .. I think we'll do it. We have no choice.

And we do it, and do it right .. the economy poised to take off. I've heard that we are looking to gain 12 million jobs in the next 4 years regardless who won. 3 million a year? That's pretty goddamn good.

/ not a troll
// seriously, we need to work together


See, now this is the difference in the two parties. When Christie said favorable things about the prez response to Sandy, the right cried foul. The left? They seemed to appreciate the idea of two men from opposite sides of the aisle putting aside any differences to just get shiat done. I know I appreciate that and that is exactly what I think we need of our people in government.
 
2012-11-09 01:31:45 AM

sprawl15: All liberals are lying homo loving economy hating socialists. And I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Leave your AIDS at home.


Alright. I'll be sure to use small words and keep it simple, because I know you're a mongoloid. Don't take that the wrong way. I have the highest level of regard for the mentally challenged. You're an inspiration to us all. Why every time I see one of you working at a McDonald's it gives me great hope that even the blacks will get to see that all of God's lowest children can earn a fair share through hard work and good management.

Now, let's have that little talk you were so interested in.
 
2012-11-09 01:32:31 AM

zedster: Therion:

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OH GOD! I can see forever!



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Its what the Marines in 'Nam called the 'thousand yard stare'
 
2012-11-09 01:32:33 AM

sprawl15: All liberals are lying homo loving economy hating socialists. And I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Leave your AIDS at home.


Ok, since I'm bored. *lots of relevant points without name-calling*
 
2012-11-09 01:33:44 AM

impaler: Link if you have one, please.


The report itself is quite dry, but a summary is available here.

They project that failed loans will cost $3 billion (less than the $10 billion allocated for losses) while successful loans will generate $8 billion in interest alone, for a $5 billion direct profit (not counting in the indirect revenues that stimulus spending is intended to achieve via strengthening the economy).

I do retract my statement about it being led by a Republican; I see now that I was misremembering who was involved. The report was created by Herb Allison, who has given economic advice to both parties, having been tapped for various roles by Bush, McCain, and Obama.

Also, per this news story, the overall program has helped to fund over 1,300 companies, of which less than 1% have failed.
 
2012-11-09 01:35:01 AM

Hickory-smoked: Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney.

I'm guessing you probably don't care much for Rachel Maddow, but if it you're willing to actually sit and listen for 16 minutes, she could explain it so much better than I can.

Link.


Secretary of State John Bolton. chilling.
 
2012-11-09 01:37:31 AM
It no different than Romney brave service during Vietnam. I am not sure how he coped with the smell of burning and horror that was the burned croissant.
 
2012-11-09 01:39:55 AM

mrshowrules: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x360]

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Somebody said something during one of the debate threads regarding that guy trying to set someone on fire using his mind. Ever since then every time I see him I crack up. He should really become some sort of meme.
 
2012-11-09 01:42:05 AM

MurphyMurphy: Minus 1 Charisma: I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why they voted Obama so I can respond. I see a post with 1000 cut and pasted graphs from obamatron.com and a bunch of "yer a stupid-head" snark-comments (which I expected).

See what happens when you feed a troll after dark?

You encourage him.

Shame on you fark.


We need to keep a couple of Fark ConservaTrolls alive for our zoos. Children born a few years from now won't believe that such creatures ever existed till they see them in their enclosure, drooling at Fox News and tossing poo at each other.
 
2012-11-09 01:49:05 AM

limeyfellow: It no different than Romney brave service during Vietnam. I am not sure how he coped with the smell of burning and horror that was the burned croissant.


But the French still used squat toilets at the time, I'm sure that was a truly harrowing experience for him, he probably still has flashbacks.
 
2012-11-09 01:55:14 AM

Servocrowatian: What ever became of tenpoundsofcheese?

Haven't seen him around at all these past few days...


I don't know. He looked tired to me...
 
2012-11-09 02:02:00 AM

TwistedFark: Of course, it's probably witchcraft to most of the GOP, but that's besides the point. For the Real America, the one that lives in 2012 - we have more complicated apps on our phones where we fling birds at pigs.


not really. A state rep (yes, in the state house), mailed me congratulating me on voting in the past five elections, and asking me for support. They have the tools, and they use them.

xynix: That's what happens when you live in an echo-chamber. I live south of Forsyth County, GA and that's about as red of a county as you get. They all believed Romney was going to win by a land slide and were so mystified that he actually lost. When the only people you associate with are hard right rednecks you begin to believe the hyperbole.


It's not that they just associate with hard right rednecks, necessarily. It's that most people don't discuss politics with extremists (either on the left or the right). The lack of a contrarian response in what hard right conservatives consider to be normal political discourse (which has been defined by the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh) deludes them into believing that what they think is mainstream. Nobody except other conservatives respond to their facebook posts and thanksgiving-dinner-table rants, and nobody does anything but either agree with them or keep their mouths shut when they call Obama a socialist. And this leads to a vicious circle of more and more extremist positions, and people actually thinking that they might be able to ban abortions and kick all the Mexicans out of the country.

The only time they get a dose of reality is on election day.
 
2012-11-09 02:08:01 AM

you are a puppet: A page full of people quoting this Minus 1 Charisma guy. Republicans arent the only ones who never seem to learn


Poe Law's is validated by the proponents of the GOP.
 
2012-11-09 02:12:22 AM

Goodfella: zedster: Therion:

[sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 640x360]
OH GOD! I can see forever!




Its what the Marines in 'Nam called the 'thousand yard stare'


No, that's more like the thousand lives I would live if only Jim Jones would look at me stare.
 
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