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(CBS News)   Romney "shellshocked" by loss. Normally, when I get shellshocked I put in another quarter and try using Donatello instead   (cbsnews.com) divider line 454
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2012-11-08 10:48:55 PM

gadian: Nate Silver always reminds me of Buster from Arrested Development. It add another layer to the whole circus.


Ha!

I see it now that you mention it.
 
2012-11-08 10:49:15 PM
So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.
 
2012-11-08 10:50:16 PM

dervish16108: Fifi Le Pew: I've tried to remain magnanimous and not say anything to anyone, especially at work. But I am here to tell you, I can't WAIT to listen the right wing radio shows on the commute home from work. I have the most inappropriate shiat-eating grin on my face the whole drive home. The best one I've heard so far: God is PUNISHING us for our SINFUL ways. LOL.

I love it when they blame Romney for everything. It's reminds me of the beginning of Karate Kid 2 when John Kreese broke Johnny Lawrence's 2nd place trophy and started beating him up.


I actually got angry listening to the radio today. BBC News Hour was interviewing some GOP big wig (I forget his name) who absolutely refused to give the Republican party any form of responsibility.

His reasons Romney lost:
1. Romney was victimized by attack ads and too nice to really fight back.
2. A poor education system that allowed Americans to be "seduced" into thinking government works.
3. The liberal media who wouldn't let Romney get out his message.

When asked by an incredulous host if changing demographics had anything to do with Romney's loss, the guy said "No", because - and I kid you not - "I have friends in every demographic" and they all wanted Romney to win.

It was delusional, dishonest rambling, which normally makes me laugh, but I got angry because here was a guy with all the evidence right in front of him and he still refused to accept reality. It was like witnessing an intervention where the addict won't admit he has a problem and then gets belligerent at the people trying to help.
 
2012-11-08 10:50:18 PM

TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.


The job ended.
 
2012-11-08 10:50:34 PM

12349876: clowncar on fire: Bladel: It must have been awful, to have been completely blindsided like that. Going in to the night thinking everything is great, you were living the dream...then BAM: rejection from nameless, faceless people you have never even met.

Just like if your company had been purchased by Bain.

You probably don't hear this enough but a lot of Bain's purchases are distressed companies well on their way to failure. At least Bain will give em another chance if they are worse saving.

That's what Bain does- buys distressed companies. Lots of misinformation out there regarding Bain's purchases so I can see why you have the sads about them.

Doesn't matter what the companies were before Bain buys them. Bain profits by putting the companies into debt and if the company rebounds it's just more icing on the cake and if it fails, the cake is still there.


Also I think it's bullshiat. Distressed companies aren't as easy to make money off of. Better to get a middlin' company or a healthy one, since they can rack up a lot more debt before being dumped.
 
2012-11-08 10:50:36 PM
i want to know how anyone could think romney could handle the economy if he could only have 63 percent success rate at bain capital in an industry that typically has 93 percent success rate. he couldn't run a campaign and he grew up in politics, ran for senate, governor and then president twice. it's not like he was a guy who didn't know about campaigning. his success at both bain and the olympics depended on federal bailouts and he thought little girls were just dying for a creepy little doll that looked just like them. when he was governor, he refused to put in a 20 thousand dollar elevator in a public building. knowing someone with a disability could come along and sue for hundreds of thousands more. he sucks at business and i've never been so delighted to see someone fall so hard, so fast. i hope it hurts.

/goddamn, my kingdom for a shift key.
//hey fiscal conservatives, your last fiscally conservative president was eisenhower and taxes were sky high.
///then you have to go back to president harding. you guys suck at the economy.
 
2012-11-08 10:50:56 PM

TV's Vinnie: Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.


OMG, hope he didn't Swiss himself.
 
2012-11-08 10:51:08 PM

Minus 1 Charisma: And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.
...

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts.


Please do shut up.

"You're an idiot. Now let's have a civil and friendly discussion." is no way to start a conversation.
 
2012-11-08 10:51:29 PM

jst3p: Huge Long Screed of facts charts and data...


Nah, I'm pretty sure we're boned
 
2012-11-08 10:51:55 PM

clambam: In the final analysis the American people are not as stupid as Romney and the repubs seemed to think they are. If you say one thing and then a week later blatantly, straight-up lie about it, and have the balls to look people in the eye and say "I did not say what you have video of me saying," people are going to notice. Wait a year to contradict yourself, you might get away with it, wait a week, or, in Romney's case, sometimes just a few hours, and people are going to doubt your trustworthiness.

We've already had ample evidence of repubs running on one platform and suddenly pulling out a completely unexpected agenda once the election is won. Do you think people would have voted for Scott Walker if he'd run on a platform of "I will break the teachers union"? Would GW Bush have been elected had he run on a platform of "I will gin up a war against Iraq (as I recall he ran specifically on a platform of "I'm not interested in nation-building")?" Given a track record like this, how can anyone with an ounce of common sense or human decency ever possibly vote repub again? As Nietszche said, "I'm not angry because you lied to me; I'm angry becuase I can never believe you again."

Here's what I think would have happened had Romney won: He would have fulfilled all those stupid, pointless promises that so easily satisfy repub ideological needs. He would have defunded Planned Parenthood and PBS, because, it would satisfy the schadenfreude waiting to be released from repub souls without affecting him or the people he cares about in the slightest. He would lower taxe rates on the wealthy and raised them on the middle class while piously scolding the American people for shirking their responsibilities. His first and primary reason for becoming president, besides rounding out his resume and proving once and for all he's a better man than his father, is to make the world safe for his children's trust funds. An emboldened GOP would go on a rampage of revenge for the perceived slights ...


Jib, newsletter, etc.
 
2012-11-08 10:52:06 PM

TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.


Smart money says, "Making a new alt." Did we ever establish his previous?
 
2012-11-08 10:52:20 PM
jst3p:

If what jst3p said was too long for you, let me put it this way.

Take a look at October 2006 through October 2009 (When Obama's first budget went into effect) and compare it to October 2009 through October 2012. The improvement is amazing.

Any argument about Obama and the economy is invalid. The people who think that it might be are either fooling themselves or don't understand just how terrible 2006-2009 was.
 
2012-11-08 10:52:25 PM

Minus 1 Charisma: It is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are farked now. Farked. And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.
...
I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling.


Call me crazy, but this little mood swing sure makes it seem like you are lying about the type of debate you want
 
2012-11-08 10:52:46 PM
Think about it. Barring the 2008 nomination (which was almost a curse for a Republican, considering the circumstances), Tuesday was the only time in Romney's life where he didn't get what he want. The only time in sixty years that someone said "no" to him. And that 'someone' was sixty million people. To a privileged guy like him, disappointment is as alien a feeling as the touch of a female is to your average farker.

/average farker
 
2012-11-08 10:53:26 PM

Richard Roma: Think about it. Barring the 2008 nomination (which was almost a curse for a Republican, considering the circumstances), Tuesday was the only time in Romney's life where he didn't get what he want. The only time in sixty years that someone said "no" to him. And that 'someone' was sixty million people. To a privileged guy like him, disappointment is as alien a feeling as the touch of a female is to your average farker.

/average farker


He did lost the 1994 Senate election, for what its worth.
 
2012-11-08 10:53:44 PM
I'm so excited! There's a whole new crop of deep-freeze troll accounts that are being thawed out for our perusal now that the election is over. It's like the first cheeps of baby birds in spring.
 
2012-11-08 10:54:06 PM

Minus 1 Charisma: Oh look, someone who still believes in the magical fairy of supply side economics thinks he's going to have a "serious" debate about economics.

Dude, the 30 year experiment is over. It failed.

If so, tell me why you believe this. Or are you just parroting something you've been told? I'm not being facetious, I want to know. I want you to make your case.


Let's see. Taxes raised in 93, followed by the largest peace time expansion in our history.

Taxes lowered in 2003, followed by a decade of stagnation and recession.

According to supply-side theory, the complete opposite should have happened.

The falsifiable theory was falsified. It's wrong.

growlersoftware.com
 
2012-11-08 10:54:52 PM

impaler: jst3p: A basic illustration of what was going on in late 2008...

Thank you!

Where's the cut and paste for that?


You can turn off html in the thread and then copypasta the whole thing.
 
2012-11-08 10:55:00 PM

TV's Vinnie: Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.


Any light to shed on this, Minus One Charisma?
 
2012-11-08 10:55:37 PM
I have a feeling Minus 1 Charisma won't be back.
 
2012-11-08 10:55:46 PM

TheBigJerk: TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.

Smart money says, "Making a new alt." Did we ever establish his previous?


I think it was Skinnyhead who had the alt but they're all interchangeable anyway.
 
2012-11-08 10:55:47 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-08 10:57:05 PM

MacWizard: Romney may have been shellshocked, but apparently the first thing he thought of was cancelling all of his staff's credit cards. Probably did it before he wrote the concession speech.

"Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked."

Link


You're shiatting me.

If you worried there wasn't going to be anyone doing a tell all, worry no more.

"We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. We control every part of your life."
 
2012-11-08 10:57:35 PM
It's a little bit too obvious of a Godwin, but this entire article is begging for a Downfall parody of Romney Headquarters on election night. .
 
2012-11-08 10:57:36 PM

Vectron: Wouldn't it be funny if George Bush turns out to be the last gentile, white, male US president? We many never have one again. It may be women, blacks, Jews, and hispanics from here on out.


Such a tragedy... It's getting mighty dusty in here, better put on my white hood to protect my eyes.
 
2012-11-08 10:59:27 PM
"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by facts"

--Neil Newhouse, Mitt Romney Presidential Campaign
 
2012-11-08 10:59:30 PM
Apparently they were told there would be no math.
 
2012-11-08 10:59:39 PM

TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.


I was wondering the same thing. Do you think a candlelight vigil is in order?
 
2012-11-08 11:00:35 PM
Minus 1 Charisma 2012-11-08 10:39:28 PM

InmanRoshi: Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same.

Oh look, someone who still believes in the magical fairy of supply side economics thinks he's going to have a "serious" debate about economics.

Dude, the 30 year experiment is over. It failed.


If so, tell me why you believe this. Or are you just parroting something you've been told...



Ahh yes.

You have been noticed by little kitty.

Let little kitty help you by giving you something.

Your very own Farky! Isn't that nice!

Minus 1 Charisma

farky'd as: just parroting something you've been told


Because the things you've repeated here are neither unique nor original.

Little kitty has been hearing them for the past four years, endlessly, and her ears are tired.
 
2012-11-08 11:01:08 PM

jst3p: if the e in your p is legit I can forward it to you.


Thanks!
 
2012-11-08 11:01:22 PM
I'll put this in BEFORE reading the thread.

I keep wondering why I continue to be obsessed with news articles about an election that's over and done with. I got, in the words of a well-known boehnhead, ninety-eight percent of what I wanted, and even the President has stopped celebrating and gone back to governing.

I realized a couple of hours ago that what's obsessing me is the conservative reaction to Obama's victory. I'm watching very closely to see which way the wind blows, to see whether the right wing has finally had its moment of clarity. I had a feeling that a faction would be surprised that Obama had won, given the party's penchant for echo chambers and friendly media. I didn't expect that faction to be "the Republican party" faction.

I'm not really the only one wondering, actually. The media wants to know, too. And I'm seeing article after article of Republicans admitting, probably for the first time since 1994, that their problems are internal. In a lot of cases this just means Republicans pointing at other Republicans and blaming them ("It's all Christie's fault!") but I've seen a few cases where Republicans hang their heads and say, "You know, our political machinery, so dependent on a certain set of conditions, is no longer serving us and is in desperate need of an update." Pointing at someone else and telling the voter "All your problems are his fault" is failing as a campaign strategy.

Oh, there's plenty of derp to go around. But this was the first time in my life I was sorry not to get Fox News. I've seen clips of the utter, blank shock as the results poured in, the white faces, the open mouths, the huge eyes, the poleaxed disbelief. Plus Megyn Kelley's furious march to the situation room, and Sarah Palin - who can hardly finish a sentence at the best of times - all but bursting into tears. At this point, I'm wondering whether they're thinking they'll have to change their editorial direction to maintain credibility among their base.
 
2012-11-08 11:01:35 PM

Apos: TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.

I was wondering the same thing. Do you think a candlelight vigil is in order?


Perhaps. There's been zer0 sign of him for days.
 
2012-11-08 11:02:00 PM
Hey republicans, now that you have proof you were doing "the republican math to make you feel better" and ignoring reality and real scientific analysis any chance you guys can reevaluate your beliefs on global warming???

Naw doubt it!!
 
2012-11-08 11:02:04 PM
What ever became of tenpoundsofcheese?

Haven't seen him around at all these past few days...
 
2012-11-08 11:02:43 PM

Wayne 985: It was delusional, dishonest rambling, which normally makes me laugh, but I got angry because here was a guy with all the evidence right in front of him and he still refused to accept reality. It was like witnessing an intervention where the addict won't admit he has a problem and then gets belligerent at the people trying to help.


No, that should make you laugh.

If they figure out how they're farking up, they can fix it.

Let them continue farking up.
 
2012-11-08 11:02:51 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: jst3p:

If what jst3p said was too long for you, let me put it this way.

Take a look at October 2006 through October 2009 (When Obama's first budget went into effect) and compare it to October 2009 through October 2012. The improvement is amazing.

Any argument about Obama and the economy is invalid. The people who think that it might be are either fooling themselves or don't understand just how terrible 2006-2009 was.


Or they think he was responsible for everything after November 6th 2008, and don't rally pay attention to everything before then, which didn't really come on their radar (i.e. get reported on by the MSM) until late 2008.

And to be honest the economy was bad ever since 2000 and the dot-bomb. I liken it to 2000 being an adrenaline crash after a long hard run, we should have drunk a lot of water and rested (slow recovery via infrastructure spending stimulus and good old-fashioned waiting it out) but the Republicans had the bright idea of doing a cocktail of coke and heroin (2 wars, tax cuts, and deregulation especially on lenders) so we couldn't feel it and kept on running.

Now we've crashed even harder, and we're feeling pains of wealth disparity and personal debt and we're on the verge of multiple organ failure (mass bankruptcies) because of what we did while coked up and immune to pain.
 
2012-11-08 11:03:08 PM

InmanRoshi: Apos: TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.

I was wondering the same thing. Do you think a candlelight vigil is in order?

Perhaps. There's been zer0 sign of him for days.


Maybe the best part? Forever!
 
2012-11-08 11:03:28 PM
It's so fitting that Fark Independents caused this.
 
2012-11-08 11:03:56 PM
Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies. That is all. Romney lies to the public. Lied to himself about the polls. We really dodged a bullet by not electing this liar. Difficulty: Mitt is just a symptom of all the lies of Fox News and the party of Rush Limbaugh.
 
2012-11-08 11:04:45 PM

Servocrowatian: What ever became of tenpoundsofcheese?

Haven't seen him around at all these past few days...


Since he basically admitted in several threads that he's a paid shill and collects on the number of reactions he gets, he might have been pulled off covering Fark and either let go or directed elsewhere.
 
2012-11-08 11:06:52 PM

InmanRoshi: It's a little bit too obvious of a Godwin, but this entire article is begging for a Downfall parody of Romney Headquarters on election night. .


There's already several Downfalls about the election, but this one is gold.
 
2012-11-08 11:09:27 PM

Apos: TV's Vinnie: So anyway, speaking of smug repubitards, whatever happened to tenpoundsofcheese? Haven't seen him since election night. Sure hope the little goon didn't do anything drastic.

I was wondering the same thing. Do you think a candlelight vigil is in order?


Possibly. My guess is that a Valkyrie swooped down and took him and all the other Fark ConservaTrolls to FAILhalla.
 
2012-11-08 11:10:30 PM
His own pollsters were wrong. Should have checked InTrade.
Why do they hate the free market?
 
2012-11-08 11:10:55 PM
So, yeah, I think I'm happy having a president who isn't surprised when things turn out the way the best intelligence says, instead of an entitled dickbag who surrounds himself with sycophants who lie to him to make him happy. How would that have worked out? "Oh, uh, yes Mr President Iran likes us now."
 
2012-11-08 11:11:09 PM

unyon: It's ok, Mitt. A few words of support:

Hold on, it's never enough. It's never enough until your heart stops beating. The deeper you get, the sweeter the pain, so don't give up the game until your heart stops beating.


+eleventy
 
2012-11-08 11:11:32 PM

theorellior: Servocrowatian: What ever became of tenpoundsofcheese?

Haven't seen him around at all these past few days...

Since he basically admitted in several threads that he's a paid shill and collects on the number of reactions he gets, he might have been pulled off covering Fark and either let go or directed elsewhere.


Tenpoundsofcheese and Envirodude have made appearances since Tuesday. They have been few and far between but they've been around. I'm jut wondering if they will eventually just go away or we'll be stuck with them repeating the same old talking points till the midterms.
 
2012-11-08 11:12:26 PM

DamnYankees: Richard Roma: Think about it. Barring the 2008 nomination (which was almost a curse for a Republican, considering the circumstances), Tuesday was the only time in Romney's life where he didn't get what he want. The only time in sixty years that someone said "no" to him. And that 'someone' was sixty million people. To a privileged guy like him, disappointment is as alien a feeling as the touch of a female is to your average farker.

/average farker

He did lost the 1994 Senate election, for what its worth.


Did he run and lose the governorship reelection or just quit because he knew he wouldn't win?

Still, from what I understand all his campaign people were yes-men and cronies he'd been keeping for years. That "old boys' club" circle-jerk of American Aristocrats who don't get told "no" very often. So yeah, I can see this really kicking his ass.

But here's a more sobering thought: All his people were big business/big money people. The CEOs and Executives that are supposed to be so much smarter than us peons, proven by how much money they make. Just like the Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers people who are "so smart" and "just plain worth more" to justify their billion-dollar bonuses.

ALL these rich-as-fark assholes said the same thing when their house of card came crashing down just as us regular peons KNEW they would. "No one could have seen it coming."

Are we detecting a pattern here?
 
2012-11-08 11:13:29 PM
10lbsofFAIL?

I hope he had a pickle incident.
 
2012-11-08 11:14:13 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: The Republican party will never win another national election as long as they remain today's Republicans. There are not enough gullible Fox viewers, white men, millionaires, evangelicals and racists to put together a majority.


Eventually people will forget just how awful they were and think it's time for a change. Could take a decade or two, mind, till the next economic downturn and/or Democratic farkup.
 
2012-11-08 11:15:12 PM

Fart_Machine: I have a feeling Minus 1 Charisma won't be back.


I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why they voted Obama so I can respond. I see a post with 1000 cut and pasted graphs from obamatron.com and a bunch of "yer a stupid-head" snark-comments (which I expected).

Why did you feel that Barack Obama deserved your vote more than Mitt Romney? Because Romney was wealthy? I don't know about you but I'd rather have a wealthy guy in charge of the economy. Because he is a Mormon? Do you think he is going to pass a law that we all have to be at Church on Sundays? The guy didn't even drink alcohol. It was pretty amazing. The guy seemed like a farking decent guy. It's disgusting the way he was demonized.

Bush sucked. Fark George Bush. I agree. But Romney is not George Bush any more than Obama is Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter. Well maybe Jimmy Carter ;)

Many of your posts seem to make the point that "Well the economy is growing...kinda." It's not growing at an acceptable rate. We spent 6 trillion dollars getting us to exactly where we were predicted to be had we not used a stimulus at all. It was enough to write a check for every citizen of the US for about $3000. Now I'm no Paul Krugman, but I'm pretty sure that as ridiculous as that option sounds it would have been better than throwing the money into the giant black hole that is green energy

The following is a list of "green" companies funded by the "stimulus" that have gone bankrupt or are teetering on the edge of doing so: ("*" denotes companies that have already gone bankrupt)

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen's Crop Service and Olsen's Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)

That money is gone. Thats your money, that's my money, that your kids money, your grandkids money. It's never coming back. It's absolutely astounding and you should not be ok with it.
 
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