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2012-11-08 10:28:41 PM  

DamnYankees: That's amazing. They believed one set of polls favorable to them, and used those polls to unskew other sets of polls


So was unskewedpolls.com just leaked Romney internal polling or what?
 
2012-11-08 10:28:46 PM  

nigeman: Also I remember when McCain lost and Obama won McCain had what seemed like a tiny underlit outdoor event, no bigger than a backyard bbq, for him to give his concession speech ( where no one seemed to want to console Sarah Palin, after he finished the speech). After that speech Obama came out to a runway lined with shining American flags to an ocean of people. The contrast could not have been starker.


I felt the same with this year's events. Romney's got a ballroom at a fancy hotel, with a handful of high-rollers in suits. Obama's in a freaking stadium. I figured Romney was keeping it low-key, knowing he was going to have to concede... but now that I know that wasn't the case, it really shows the contrast between who the two men represented.
 
2012-11-08 10:29:15 PM  

inconnu: The degree of lefty crowing about this election just ensures that they'll get their comeuppance in the hardest way possible, when the pendulum swings again. You think Hillary or Biden is gonna swing 2016? I don't think so.


The Republican party will never win another national election as long as they remain today's Republicans. There are not enough gullible Fox viewers, white men, millionaires, evangelicals and racists to put together a majority.
 
2012-11-08 10:29:18 PM  

jst3p: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: BSABSVR: The day after I mailed in my ballot, I stopped getting phone calls and targeted mail from the Dems.

I spent 4 straight days culling lists of voters as we got more & more information about them through repeated contacts.

All I can say is that to stop the harassment you need to do the following: (1) register as a party member -- independents get called/mailed/harassed continuously, (2) vote in every election, including primaries -- doesn't matter who you vote for, just that you vote, (3) pick a side early and tell the first phone caller that you're 100% committed to whichever side, and (4) if you can, vote early or absentee -- no use trying to persuade someone whose vote is in the can already.

I registered unaffiliated and I didn't get a single call. In colorado. Do they not call cell phones?


I am registered unaffiliated in Colorado and my land line BLEW UP for weeks and weeks... but I didn't get a single call on my cell phone, so they must not.
 
2012-11-08 10:29:36 PM  

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: I believe it. They even had a mini-rally on the sidewalk at the main intersection in my part of Tampa, complete with girls in tight jeans waving signs and trying to get people to honk and cheer for them.


Those weren't campaign workers. Those were sex workers trying to cash in on election season.

Easy mistake.
 
2012-11-08 10:29:59 PM  
www.bradbyers.com

Nailed it!
 
2012-11-08 10:30:19 PM  

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: rynthetyn: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: rynthetyn: cameroncrazy1984: rynthetyn: The Obama campaign was actually tracking every single voter in as close to real time as humanly possible. Even on election day, poll watchers were given lists of everyone in the precinct they were watching and a 4 digit code to input in the campaign smart phone tracking page. As soon as you voted, you were off the list and focus was placed on the people who hadn't turned out yet. The Obama campaign didn't have to guess about turnout the way the Romney camp was because they were using data mining to track it as it happened

That's amazing. I hadn't heard about this part.

I've been around politics for most of my life and I've never seen a campaign organization that's run as well as Obama's.

I can attest to this. I live in Hillsborough County in Florida, and I got Obama campaign volunteers at my door Friday night. I told them I'd be voting for Obama on Tuesday with my partner, and the girl whipped out a datapad and said "Okay, I'll mark you down for Tuesday then as a vote for President Obama, thanks very much for your support", gave me a bunch of polling information on the amendments and other down ticket races on the ballot, and she and her huge male partner (who I can only assume was her bodyguard considering my suburb which is known for it's GOPness) and they moved down to the next house.

I was pretty impressed.

I have a friend who got hired late in the campaign to run the get out to vote efforts for 10 Florida counties. I was in China with him this summer studying while he was just working as a volunteer, and rather than taking a month off because he was in frikking China, he spent the month driving his roommate nuts because every spare moment he was on Google Voice running the college GOTV operation for Florida.

I believe it. They even had a mini-rally on the sidewalk at the main intersection in my part of Tampa, complete with girls in tight jeans waving signs and trying to ge ...


I helped run phone banking for recruiting attorneys as poll watchers in Florida. I'm sure we were driving half the Democratic attorneys in the state of Florida nuts by the end because we had called some of them half a dozen times before it was all out trying to get commitments to volunteer. And that was just for poll watchers.

It's kind of crazy to think about it because as much of a clusterfark as Florida was this year, it might have been even more of one if not for the work that I put in recruiting lawyers. That's not really something that I can wrap my head around just yet.
 
2012-11-08 10:30:29 PM  
Romney's campaign should get credit for something amazing. They convinced a shait ton of baptists and evangelicals in the South to vote for a mormon! They not only broke the hearts of millions of conservatires by losing, they convinced tons of them to sell their souls.
 
2012-11-08 10:30:39 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Obama's economic performance is staggeringly poor. It's been a complete fail. With the implementation of the Affordable Health Care act we are going to be completely boned beyond repair. While I agree that the health care system was broken and that health care ebing a right is worth debate = Obama care was not the answer. It is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are farked now. Farked. And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.

You guys have doomed yourselves and you don't even know it yet. You cheer America's demise. Grab a calculator. We're completely farked. WOOPIE!!

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults.


Honest debate after that hysteria? You're adorable.
 
2012-11-08 10:31:07 PM  

gaspode: Is wishful thinking and confirmation bias so very very powerful?


Yes.
 
2012-11-08 10:31:08 PM  
Frankly, I am surprised that Romney's campaign lied to itself so badly. I don't understand the motivation to do so.
 
2012-11-08 10:31:19 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I am a true swing voter. I'm a conservative, but I'm also an athiest. I have voted both ways. In this election I voted Romney.


It baffles me how an atheist would be comfortable voting for the American Taliban party that the GOP has become post-Reagan.

/not going to debate because you're not going to change your mind i'm a spineless marxist nazi traitor.
 
2012-11-08 10:31:29 PM  
Josh Barro @jbarro
If Romney was stunned that he lost, it conflicts with the idea that he's a superior numbers guy who gets into the data weeds on his deals.
 
2012-11-08 10:31:49 PM  
media.teamxbox.com

Way back when, me and three other friends pumped what must had been over $20 into this game and played it start to finish. Arcade at Golf N Stuff. Fun times.
 
2012-11-08 10:32:09 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I don't agree with the Republicans on everything, but the economy should be everyone's top priority. Without a thriving economy, nothing else matters. Whether your issue is birth control, gay marriage or legalizing marijuana - look I agree with all of those things as well, but as a logical human being that regularly exercises intellectual honesty I can tell you that none of that shiat matters when we're in debt up to our eyeballs and the economic growth doesn't even keep up with population growth.

I am a true swing voter. I'm a conservative, but I'm also an athiest. I have voted both ways. In this election I voted Romney. I am disgusted that he didn't win. The fact that the people of our country voted Obama back in in these economic conditions should scare the living shiat out of all of us. I've been around a while and these times we're going through are NOT the norm, and they never should be in America. Maybe if you're reading this you are just too young to know. People used to have enough to get by and then some. If you're not feeling it yet you will. And believe it or not when the (evil?) rich people feel it the poor people feel it too. Just read history.

Obama's economic performance is staggeringly poor. It's been a complete fail. With the implementation of the Affordable Health Care act we are going to be completely boned beyond repair. While I agree that the health care system was broken and that health care ebing a right is worth debate = Obama care was not the answer. It is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are farked now. Farked. And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.

You guys have doomed yourselves and you don't even know it yet. You cheer America's demise. Grab a calculator. We're completely farked. WOOPIE!! 

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same.


I have a question. Why do you assume women voted for Obama because of birth control pills?
 
2012-11-08 10:32:43 PM  
Credit for that last post goes to farker hugram.
 
2012-11-08 10:32:46 PM  
Nate Silver always reminds me of Buster from Arrested Development. It add another layer to the whole circus.
 
2012-11-08 10:32:50 PM  

HeartBurnKid: nigeman: Also I remember when McCain lost and Obama won McCain had what seemed like a tiny underlit outdoor event, no bigger than a backyard bbq, for him to give his concession speech ( where no one seemed to want to console Sarah Palin, after he finished the speech). After that speech Obama came out to a runway lined with shining American flags to an ocean of people. The contrast could not have been starker.

I felt the same with this year's events. Romney's got a ballroom at a fancy hotel, with a handful of high-rollers in suits. Obama's in a freaking stadium. I figured Romney was keeping it low-key, knowing he was going to have to concede... but now that I know that wasn't the case, it really shows the contrast between who the two men represented.


Exactly!
 
2012-11-08 10:32:54 PM  
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2012-11-08 10:33:10 PM  

MrEricSir: Romney will find a new job.

The person to feel bad for is Karl Rove. His career is ruined.


I know you're joking, but think about this. Karl Rove ran a scam that raked nearly a third of a BILLION dollars from some very powerful people, and gave them nothing in return.

You might imagine that Karl is sleeping comfortably on a bed of money, surounded by lithe Dominican boys. But I bet he's just a little worried that he's going to meet a most unfortunate end.
 
2012-11-08 10:33:29 PM  

InmanRoshi: mrshowrules: There is some bullshiat going on here. Romney knew they were down by 5% in Ohio on Sunday (2 days before the election) based on their own internal polls. Someone's lying.

Agreed. I think it's just spinning. Better to say you were self deluded and surprise than to admit you were a complete liar and bullshiat artist.

That's not to say there probably weren't some DERPers on some outer rings of the staff who were drinking Kool Aid, but I think the real small inside circle guys knew the reality.


We'll probably never know the truth unless a staffer releases a juicy tell-all.

But from my own experience in dealing with powerful corporate characters, I can say that the 'yes-men'/'group-think' phenomenon is VERY real. Guys who have climbed to the top of the corporate ladder generally don't like being told they're wrong, and especially don't like being told that they're losing. Consequently, everyone underneath becomes more concerned with just keeping their own jobs than addressing the issues that need attention.

To put it more simply, Obama strikes me as the kind of candidate who WANTS to know about the areas he can improve as a candidate.

Romney strikes me as the kind of candidate who wants to know who he should fire if the campaign isn't going well.
 
2012-11-08 10:33:41 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: Obama's economic performance is staggeringly poor


When Obama was elected we were headed to an outright depression. Under Obama the economy has improved by every metric. And your solution was to vote for the guy who has all of the policies and advisers that got us into this mess in the first place?

And I believe foreign policy is the biggest issue. The economy could make me poor but bad handling of foreign affairs could get me irradiated. And I really didn't want a President who flat out said he would have Israel dictate our actions in the mid east.
 
2012-11-08 10:34:20 PM  

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: rynthetyn:

By the way, tell your friend thanks. Every sane person in Florida appreciates the effort.


I'm fairly certain he's probably sleeping for the next week straight.
 
2012-11-08 10:34:29 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: inconnu: The degree of lefty crowing about this election just ensures that they'll get their comeuppance in the hardest way possible, when the pendulum swings again. You think Hillary or Biden is gonna swing 2016? I don't think so.

The Republican party will never win another national election as long as they remain today's Republicans. There are not enough gullible Fox viewers, white men, millionaires, evangelicals and racists to put together a majority.


What do you picture the party morphing into? The can't out Democrat the Democrats.

70% of Jews, Hispanics and Asians voted for the Democrats. Also the majority of single mothers. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama, That is real identity politics.

By racist, I assume you mean white people. What's wrong with white people having someone that represents their interests.
 
2012-11-08 10:35:42 PM  
"We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one."

I get what you mean, you were totally screwed, whatever, but there really was a path. It's the one you left, back there. See it? It goes back a few years. Yep, the path paved with bullshiat about 10 feet thick, that's it! That's your path. The only sad thing to come out of this election is that some 57 MILLION people chose that path. There are no words for that.
 
2012-11-08 10:39:28 PM  

InmanRoshi: Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same.

Oh look, someone who still believes in the magical fairy of supply side economics thinks he's going to have a "serious" debate about economics.

Dude, the 30 year experiment is over. It failed.


If so, tell me why you believe this. Or are you just parroting something you've been told?  I'm not being facetious, I want to know. I want you to make your case.
 
2012-11-08 10:39:38 PM  
In the final analysis the American people are not as stupid as Romney and the repubs seemed to think they are. If you say one thing and then a week later blatantly, straight-up lie about it, and have the balls to look people in the eye and say "I did not say what you have video of me saying," people are going to notice. Wait a year to contradict yourself, you might get away with it, wait a week, or, in Romney's case, sometimes just a few hours, and people are going to doubt your trustworthiness.

We've already had ample evidence of repubs running on one platform and suddenly pulling out a completely unexpected agenda once the election is won. Do you think people would have voted for Scott Walker if he'd run on a platform of "I will break the teachers union"? Would GW Bush have been elected had he run on a platform of "I will gin up a war against Iraq (as I recall he ran specifically on a platform of "I'm not interested in nation-building")?" Given a track record like this, how can anyone with an ounce of common sense or human decency ever possibly vote repub again? As Nietszche said, "I'm not angry because you lied to me; I'm angry becuase I can never believe you again."

Here's what I think would have happened had Romney won: He would have fulfilled all those stupid, pointless promises that so easily satisfy repub ideological needs. He would have defunded Planned Parenthood and PBS, because, it would satisfy the schadenfreude waiting to be released from repub souls without affecting him or the people he cares about in the slightest. He would lower taxe rates on the wealthy and raised them on the middle class while piously scolding the American people for shirking their responsibilities. His first and primary reason for becoming president, besides rounding out his resume and proving once and for all he's a better man than his father, is to make the world safe for his children's trust funds. An emboldened GOP would go on a rampage of revenge for the perceived slights of the past four years, with state and federal level legislation designed specifically to injure women, gays, minorities and college students without any particular reason for doing so besides the pleasure of watching liberals squirm. The minimum wage would be lowered or eliminated and a whole new class of chattel wage slaves would be created and expand as employers saw no downside to abusing their employees even further.

A repub victory would have been an unmitigated disaster. Their cause was unjust, their reasons self-serving, their justifications hypocritcal. They deserved to lose. I am glad they lost. The country is a better place for their defeat.
 
2012-11-08 10:40:12 PM  

vrax: "We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one."

I get what you mean, you were totally screwed, whatever, but there really was a path. It's the one you left, back there. See it? It goes back a few years. Yep, the path paved with bullshiat about 10 feet thick, that's it! That's your path. The only sad thing to come out of this election is that some 57 MILLION people chose that path. There are no words for that.


How about this one:

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU+++++carrier lost+++++
 
2012-11-08 10:40:16 PM  
Romney may have been shellshocked, but apparently the first thing he thought of was cancelling all of his staff's credit cards. Probably did it before he wrote the concession speech.

"Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked."

Link
 
2012-11-08 10:40:46 PM  

pup.socket: Frankly, I am surprised that Romney's campaign lied to itself so badly. I don't understand the motivation to do so.


It's one thing to lie to others, but to lie to yourself ....

Then again, this campaign is going down in history as one of the worst ever. It seemed like every other week some statement was being walked back, or some gaffe had to be explained ...etc.
 
2012-11-08 10:41:17 PM  
...the House remains red...

Reds, reds, HAR HAR, I'm gonna start calling Republicans Reds.

And Fark Independents I shall call Pinkos.

Tailgunner Joe would sh*t kittens the size of Buicks if he knew his party had [unofficially] chosen Commie Red as their colour.

red diaper GOPer babies
red diaper GOPer babies
red diaper GOPer babies
DANCE, DANCE! 
 
2012-11-08 10:41:42 PM  
Mitt Romney has led a charmed life, and this is the first epic setback that he's ever had, AFAIK. I'm not surprised he's shell shocked...
 
2012-11-08 10:41:59 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I am a true swing voter. I'm a conservative, but I'm also an athiest. I have voted both ways. In this election I voted Romney. I am disgusted that he didn't win. The fact that the people of our country voted Obama back in in these economic conditions should scare the living shiat out of all of us...

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same.


You apparently fail to realize Obama was handed a shatty economy.

800,000 jobs lost in January of 2009. Today, we're adding 170,000.

Link
 
2012-11-08 10:42:37 PM  

Vectron: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: inconnu: The degree of lefty crowing about this election just ensures that they'll get their comeuppance in the hardest way possible, when the pendulum swings again. You think Hillary or Biden is gonna swing 2016? I don't think so.

The Republican party will never win another national election as long as they remain today's Republicans. There are not enough gullible Fox viewers, white men, millionaires, evangelicals and racists to put together a majority.

What do you picture the party morphing into? The can't out Democrat the Democrats.

70% of Jews, Hispanics and Asians voted for the Democrats. Also the majority of single mothers. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama, That is real identity politics.

By racist, I assume you mean white people. What's wrong with white people having someone that represents their interests.


So you believe all white people are racists or that jews aren't white people?
 
2012-11-08 10:42:58 PM  

Fifi Le Pew: I've tried to remain magnanimous and not say anything to anyone, especially at work. But I am here to tell you, I can't WAIT to listen the right wing radio shows on the commute home from work. I have the most inappropriate shiat-eating grin on my face the whole drive home. The best one I've heard so far: God is PUNISHING us for our SINFUL ways. LOL.


I love it when they blame Romney for everything. It's reminds me of the beginning of Karate Kid 2 when John Kreese broke Johnny Lawrence's 2nd place trophy and started beating him up.
 
2012-11-08 10:42:58 PM  

neongoats: inconnu: The degree of lefty crowing about this election just ensures that they'll get their comeuppance in the hardest way possible, when the pendulum swings again. You think Hillary or Biden is gonna swing 2016? I don't think so.

The crowing is NOTHING compared to what we heard from the GOP post 2004 supreme court elected GWB. You assholes spent 8 farking years calling everyone that wasn't a white fundamentalist GOP lover "terrorists". The GOP is getting the derision and rejection they have been earning for 12+ years. End of story.

Biden? Yes, I think Biden would crush anyone in the current GOP except Christie.

Gool ol Joe is more Like-able than even Bill Clinton, without the scandalous history. He really is America's happy warrior. Every time I hear him speak or see a picture of him all I can think is "this guy is really loving his job and his life and really truly wants to spread that light to every American"

Gaffes just make even more human.


I kinda hope that Biden runs because he will crush the GOP crowd and I would include Christie in that crowd. For all the crowing about the Biden gaffs, the fact is, they are not really major or as big as the right wing noise machine would make them out to be. He is older, but there is a youthful vigor about him and he definitely connects with young people. If he runs, he'll run with the economy having been repaired and doing well, having helped usher in health care for future generations, and as someone who did not tolerate the bullshiat mountain deposited by the GOP on the country.
 
2012-11-08 10:43:19 PM  

impaler: xynix: That's what happens when you live in an echo-chamber. I live south of Forsyth County, GA and that's about as red of a county as you get. They all believed Romney was going to win by a land slide and were so mystified that he actually lost. When the only people you associate with are hard right rednecks you begin to believe the hyperbole.

One of the last Tea Derper posts I saw on my facebook wall on Tuesday: "This is a lot closer than I expected."


9.30 p.m.
14 April 1912
S.S. Mesaba to R.M.S. Titanic and All Eastbound Ships:
"Ice report: In latitude 42 N to 41.25 N, longitude 49 W to 50.3 W. Saw much heavy pack ice and great number of large icebergs, also field ice. Weather good, clear".

9.35 p.m.
14 April 1912
R.M.S. Titanic to S.S. Mesaba:
"Recieved, thanks".
 
2012-11-08 10:43:27 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I don't agree with the Republicans on everything, but the economy should be everyone's top priority. Without a thriving economy, nothing else matters. Whether your issue is birth control, gay marriage or legalizing marijuana - look I agree with all of those things as well, but as a logical human being that regularly exercises intellectual honesty I can tell you that none of that shiat matters when we're in debt up to our eyeballs and the economic growth doesn't even keep up with population growth.

I am a true swing voter. I'm a conservative, but I'm also an athiest. I have voted both ways. In this election I voted Romney. I am disgusted that he didn't win. The fact that the people of our country voted Obama back in in these economic conditions should scare the living shiat out of all of us. I've been around a while and these times we're going through are NOT the norm, and they never should be in America. Maybe if you're reading this you are just too young to know. People used to have enough to get by and then some. If you're not feeling it yet you will. And believe it or not when the (evil?) rich people feel it the poor people feel it too. Just read history.

Obama's economic performance is staggeringly poor. It's been a complete fail. With the implementation of the Affordable Health Care act we are going to be completely boned beyond repair. While I agree that the health care system was broken and that health care ebing a right is worth debate = Obama care was not the answer. It is cutting off your nose to spite your face. We are farked now. Farked. And all because women thought Romney was going to cut off birth control pills(?) or your favorite actor or movie star is a liberal.

You guys have doomed yourselves and you don't even know it yet. You cheer America's demise. Grab a calculator. We're completely farked. WOOPIE!! 

I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. ...


Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again.
 
2012-11-08 10:43:31 PM  

Minus 1 Charisma: I invite any one of you to have an honest debate with me like two adults. No snark, no name-calling. Just the facts. Let's talk about why you voted Obama over Romney. Please be specific. Please cite sources. I promise to do the same.


You post that sack of Fark Independent™ horseshiat and expect us to believe it? You're a funny guy. You're also Farkied in piss yellow now.
 
2012-11-08 10:43:59 PM  

MacWizard: Romney may have been shellshocked, but apparently the first thing he thought of was cancelling all of his staff's credit cards. Probably did it before he wrote the concession speech.

"Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked."

Link


What a petty man!
 
2012-11-08 10:44:15 PM  

gaspode: How? how can these intelligent educated people who work in politics have not seen what was transparently farking obvious? Is wishful thinking and confirmation bias so very very powerful?


They bought their own narrative.

They put together a little piece of fiction about Obama and the future of America in order to keep the party from fracturing. They made Obama their scapegoat. They made him their Emmanuel Goldstein. It was the only way they could keep the disparate groups in the big tent from taking out their frustrations on each other.

And then they started believing it themselves. They thought that the fictitious reality that they dreamed up had gained enough sway to supplant the real reality. They thought they had taken control of the message, and that it was smooth sailing from there on out.

They were wrong.
 
2012-11-08 10:44:18 PM  

Vectron: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: inconnu: The degree of lefty crowing about this election just ensures that they'll get their comeuppance in the hardest way possible, when the pendulum swings again. You think Hillary or Biden is gonna swing 2016? I don't think so.

The Republican party will never win another national election as long as they remain today's Republicans. There are not enough gullible Fox viewers, white men, millionaires, evangelicals and racists to put together a majority.

What do you picture the party morphing into? The can't out Democrat the Democrats.

70% of Jews, Hispanics and Asians voted for the Democrats. Also the majority of single mothers. Over 90% of blacks voted for Obama, That is real identity politics.

By racist, I assume you mean white people. What's wrong with white people having someone that represents their interests.


Cite a single example of white people needing their interests protected. Thought not.

Also, why are you implying that only a white man can protect the interests of white people?

Psst, Jews are white. But I suppose they're not the right kind of white.
 
2012-11-08 10:44:26 PM  
Hey Mitt... What you're experiencing is having something come so close you can taste it and it's just out of reach. You can't buy everything, welcome to reality.
 
2012-11-08 10:44:29 PM  

culebra: The farkers really thought they were going to win, and win big. Either they're utterly delusional and out of touch, or they were counting on something that didn't materialize. Normally sane Republican pundits missed the EV count by over 100. Karl Rove almost acted like he couldn't believe the scheming in Ohio didn't work, as if some crucial piece of the puzzle hadn't fallen into place.

Of course the simplest, and correct, answer is that Republicans are by and large just out to lunch. I guess you'd have to be,


The "holy shiat, the fix isn't in?!" reaction was my feeling too.
 
2012-11-08 10:46:14 PM  

jst3p: A basic illustration of what was going on in late 2008...


Thank you!

Where's the cut and paste for that?
 
2012-11-08 10:46:36 PM  

whidbey: MrEricSir: Romney will find a new job.

The person to feel bad for is Karl Rove. His career is ruined.

I doubt it. All he has to do is reinvent himself and the cash comes rolling in.


When you've convinced a collection of billionaires to donate huge sums to your PAC -- and then your PAC fails to get a single person elected -- you've now got a collection of very pissed off billionaires on your back.

The people who gave Rove big bucks aren't going to make that mistake again.
 
2012-11-08 10:46:49 PM  

mrshowrules: There is some bullshiat going on here. Romney knew they were down by 5% in Ohio on Sunday (2 days before the election) based on their own internal polls. Someone's lying.


That would be a surprise, coming from the Romney camp.
 
2012-11-08 10:48:01 PM  

MacWizard: Romney may have been shellshocked, but apparently the first thing he thought of was cancelling all of his staff's credit cards. Probably did it before he wrote the concession speech.

"Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked."

Link


Just when I thought I couldn't hate the guy more, and even once he's been beaten....I want to kick a chicken.
 
2012-11-08 10:48:26 PM  

nezlok: culebra: The farkers really thought they were going to win, and win big. Either they're utterly delusional and out of touch, or they were counting on something that didn't materialize. Normally sane Republican pundits missed the EV count by over 100. Karl Rove almost acted like he couldn't believe the scheming in Ohio didn't work, as if some crucial piece of the puzzle hadn't fallen into place.

Of course the simplest, and correct, answer is that Republicans are by and large just out to lunch. I guess you'd have to be,

The "holy shiat, the fix isn't in?!" reaction was my feeling too.


My feeling was more "oh shiat! My legs will get broken."
 
2012-11-08 10:48:26 PM  

impaler: jst3p: A basic illustration of what was going on in late 2008...

Thank you!

Where's the cut and paste for that?


if the e in your p is legit I can forward it to you.
 
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