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(Politico)   Rove accuses Obama of suppressing the vote   (politico.com) divider line 162
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2012-11-09 08:17:34 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: For Karl Rove to lose it like this, there must've been a big Republican scandal to secure Ohio for Romney that completely failed/collapsed. I suspect something to come out about it in the next year.

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I had a weird hunch about exactly that. (Maybe call it a gut feeling, or my own special math.) People were understandably upset about the unauthorized last minute voting machine "updates" in Ohio, suspecting that it was the "fix" to hand the state to Romney.

At that point in the polls (the ones based in reality), Obama had pulled away considerably. I thought it was more likely that those updates specifically erased a previously installed hack, as the results would have diverged much too far and attracted attention.

If Rove wasn't aware of that, it would explain his bizarre and pitbull-like insistence that Ohio couldn't possibly be called for Obama, and the subsequent meltdown when it was.

/This is damned fine tinfoil hat I found. :)
 
2012-11-09 08:22:32 AM
Karl Rove will not lose any status in the republican party about this. First off, he has too much money and too many connections for them to use as a sacrificial lamb. He's the brains of the beast and it dies without him. Secondly, everyone else in the GOP bought into the same predictions he did. If they blame his judgement and powers of perception, they have to blame their own as well. That's why everything needs to be blamed on external reasons. Karl Rove is not going anywhere. People like this never replace their leaders, no matter how many battles they lose. He's their Cobra Commander. Foiled plot after foiled plot yet still rules them. I mean, maybe they do replace him. Maybe they create a Serpentor to usurp Cobra Commander's power. They'd probably have to raid various tombs of past leaders like Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, and Napoleon to steal the DNA to clone this great leader, but that will never happen because as I understand it you need stem cells and stuff, and they don't believe in that. Plus re-using DNA from dead leaders would probably be akin to aborting a fetus in the 4,000th trimester. They may also need that DNA in heaven. Where was I? Oh yeah. Rove is here for a while, yet.
 
2012-11-09 08:26:35 AM

InmanRoshi: Pssst ... Karl. Your party has lost the popular vote in 4 out of the last 5 Presidential elections. The "silent majority" no longer exists. Pass it on.


I count 5 out of 6. 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, and 2012. 2004 probably would not have gone GOP if Bush wasn't "elected" in 2000. Then again, the same could be said about 2008 and 2012 since history would be so different (probably for the better).
 
2012-11-09 08:32:49 AM
White male here. The Obama campaign came by my apartment several times on Tuesday to remind me it was election day, tell me where my polling place was, and even offer me a ride there if I needed one.

Needless to say I felt totally suppressed and like Obama was discouraging voting.
 
2012-11-09 08:39:27 AM
I hope that, no matter what your political ideology, we can all agree that people like Rove must be exposed for what they are and publicly shamed.
 
2012-11-09 08:42:02 AM
I think Karl Rove's value as a political strategist is not in his mathematical prowess or ability to compile and analyze data or anything sophisticated like that.

Karl Rove is an attack dog. He is the white, fat Danny Trejo of politics. He is good at what he does, and what he does ain't pretty. He is good at propaganda. He is exceedingly good at underhanded attacks and smear tactics. This is the guy that was able to turn Vietnam vet John Kerry into a traitor and draft dodger George W. Bush into a war hero. He framed that narrative, and it stuck. He also sank McCain in 2000 by playing into the Southern Strategy. He knows his electorate, and he knows how to play them.

The problem for him is, in the post-Obama world of Conservative politics, with all of the bizarre distortions Republicans have around Obama, his value as an attack dog is all but nullified.
 
2012-11-09 08:43:13 AM
Dave: "Wow, man.. Karl's really flipping out. You did remember to tell him we undid the Ohio patch, right?"

Bob: "Oh shi-"
 
2012-11-09 08:43:40 AM

pissnmoan: Rove always accuses the opposition of whatever he's doing himself.


Not just Rove. It was a campaign staple on the Right, plus or minus attacks on fact checkers, bankrolling 'unbiased' ersatz news outlets, stirring the religious and racial pots.....
 
2012-11-09 08:46:41 AM
I'd also like to add that earlier in the campaign, IIRC, Rove himself was predicting an Obama win. I wonder when it is that he drank the Kool-Aid.
 
2012-11-09 09:07:12 AM
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2012-11-09 10:14:19 AM
Really, you would think that Rove would be more focused on evading the team of super-ninja assassins that his donors have dispatched after him.
 
2012-11-09 10:33:18 AM

ramblinwreck: InmanRoshi: Pssst ... Karl. Your party has lost the popular vote in 4 out of the last 5 Presidential elections. The "silent majority" no longer exists. Pass it on.

I count 5 out of 6. 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, and 2012. 2004 probably would not have gone GOP if Bush wasn't "elected" in 2000. Then again, the same could be said about 2008 and 2012 since history would be so different (probably for the better).


Yeah, I think even 2004 deserves an asterisk, as it is damn near impossible for any incumbant President to lose when America is just 1 year into a ground war (back when the idea of being war was still petty novel and fresh, those were the days).
 
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