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(Yahoo)   The real reason Romney lost the election? Lack of money. No really, I mean it, STOP LAUGHING   (finance.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2012-11-08 03:39:49 PM  
I think the most telling part of the Romney campaign is that at no point did he have intercourse with a farm animal on stage.
 
2012-11-08 03:40:24 PM  
He lost because he's Romney.
 
2012-11-08 03:41:31 PM  
About the only way more money would have been any more effective is if they actually paid people to vote for him.

/the lack of understanding and introspection is sad, yet not unexpected.
 
2012-11-08 03:42:41 PM  
Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign? I thought you didn't have the same limits to fund your own campaigning. But then he asked others for money?
 
2012-11-08 03:42:58 PM  
It's the money. It's the media. It's everybody's fault but theirs.
 
2012-11-08 03:44:12 PM  
Lies cost Republicans dearly this election. Obviously the solution is more lies.
 
2012-11-08 03:44:29 PM  

sprawl15: I think the most telling part of the Romney campaign is that at no point did he have intercourse with a farm animal on stage.


Would that have helped Mr. Romney capture the Democratic Independent urban vote or the Republican Independent rural vote? Also, since when is a chicken not a farm animal?
 
2012-11-08 03:44:31 PM  
He lost because he was up against a better candidate.
 
2012-11-08 03:44:38 PM  
Maybe with another billion dollars or so, Romney would have been able to win Florida.

He would have still lost the election, of course. But he'd probably feel better.
 
2012-11-08 03:44:53 PM  
"It wasn't my fault. Honest... I ran out of gas! I--I had a flat tire! I didn't have enough money for cab fare! My tux didn't come back from the cleaners! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!!!"

-heard recently from the Rmoney campaign
 
2012-11-08 03:44:57 PM  
he couldn't outsource it to China...
 
2012-11-08 03:45:48 PM  

Corvus: Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign? I thought you didn't have the same limits to fund your own campaigning. But then he asked others for money?


You expect a man who weaseled out of paying taxes for 10 years to suddenly become a decent human being?
 
2012-11-08 03:47:02 PM  

Corvus: Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign? I thought you didn't have the same limits to fund your own campaigning. But then he asked others for money?


Risk your OWN money? How passe. You get rich by playing with OTHER peoples money.
 
2012-11-08 03:47:36 PM  
I'm pretty sure they had a SPENDING problem not a REVENUE problem (grin)
 
2012-11-08 03:48:38 PM  
He lost because to win the GOP primary you have to be a nut and to win the general you have to be a centrist. He alienated either one or two of the sides GOP with his campaign no matter what he did. They just weren't enthusiastic about him.

On top of that the demographics are changing, so on top of that they had a generally unenthusiastic shrinking base.
 
2012-11-08 03:48:50 PM  
I voted against Paul Ryan. Truthfully. I was going to vote Green or Vermin Supreme (seriously) until Rmoney picked Ryan. I farking hate Ryan more than I hate Santorum.
 
2012-11-08 03:49:16 PM  

Delay: sprawl15: I think the most telling part of the Romney campaign is that at no point did he have intercourse with a farm animal on stage.

Would that have helped Mr. Romney capture the Democratic Independent urban vote or the Republican Independent rural vote? Also, since when is a chicken not a farm animal?


I have chickens, I don't live on a farm.
 
2012-11-08 03:49:31 PM  
He won the primaries, barely, by outspending Santorum 10-1. It stands to reason that since he only outspent Obama 1.1 - 1, he would lose. People need a LOT of convincing to vote for Romney
 
2012-11-08 03:49:40 PM  

EyeballKid: Corvus: Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign? I thought you didn't have the same limits to fund your own campaigning. But then he asked others for money?

You expect a man who weaseled out of paying taxes for 10 years to suddenly become a decent human being?


Hey, no one has proof of that yet. Romney has time to show his tax returns before the election ends. Florida is still undecided. Come on Romney, show those returns.
 
2012-11-08 03:50:37 PM  

Delay: Also, since when is a chicken not a farm animal?


They roam wild on many pacific islands
 
2012-11-08 03:50:56 PM  
They're never going to understand, are they?
 
2012-11-08 03:50:57 PM  

Corvus: Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign?


Yeah, but if he did that then he wouldn't still have that money after spending it.

profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-11-08 03:51:23 PM  
FTA: Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to moderate and independent donors.

So... not so much a lack of money as what he had to do to get it. Yes, when you openly put your campaign up for sale it might have an adverse affect on your ability to convince the electorate that you are trustworthy.
 
2012-11-08 03:52:20 PM  

Delay: EyeballKid: Corvus: Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign? I thought you didn't have the same limits to fund your own campaigning. But then he asked others for money?

You expect a man who weaseled out of paying taxes for 10 years to suddenly become a decent human being?

Hey, no one has proof of that yet. Romney has time to show his tax returns before the election ends. Florida is still undecided. Come on Romney, show those returns.


Speaking of which, how fast do you think he had his accountant rush to amend his last tax return to take the full charitable deduction, which he deliberately skipped to make it appear like he paid a higher rate?
 
2012-11-08 03:53:15 PM  

Lost Thought 00: He won the primaries, barely, by outspending Santorum 10-1. It stands to reason that since he only outspent Obama 1.1 - 1, he would lose. People need a LOT of convincing to vote for Romney


The Freakonomics guys indicated that you hit a saturation point with spending. At a certain point, you can't screen more ads, put up more information, create more events - people just get sick of hearing from you. Also, winners tend to attract more donations - people donate to campaigns that they think are winning.

What this means, more or less, is that Romney attracted the attention of a large number of losers.
 
2012-11-08 03:54:38 PM  
He lost because he has the charisma of moldy cheese.
 
2012-11-08 03:55:29 PM  

theteacher: I voted against Paul Ryan. Truthfully. I was going to vote Green or Vermin Supreme (seriously) until Rmoney picked Ryan. I farking hate Ryan more than I hate Santorum.


My roommate was going to vote for Jill Stein but changed his mind at the last moment and voted for Obama rather than risk a Romney presidency. Romney was so bad that there wasn't really even a Nader factor involved, even people upset at Obama because he isn't liberal enough voted for him rather than risk letting Romney/Ryan throw this country in the toilet.
 
2012-11-08 03:56:53 PM  

Aarontology: They're never going to understand, are they?


I'm thinking two more Presidential losses and a little light bulb might come on over their heads. In between their horns.
 
2012-11-08 03:57:09 PM  

manimal2878: Delay: sprawl15: I think the most telling part of the Romney campaign is that at no point did he have intercourse with a farm animal on stage.

Would that have helped Mr. Romney capture the Democratic Independent urban vote or the Republican Independent rural vote? Also, since when is a chicken not a farm animal?

I have chickens, I don't live on a farm.


I have a (small) farm. I don't have any chickens.

Anymore.

/Stupid eagles...
 
2012-11-08 03:57:47 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Speaking of which, how fast do you think he had his accountant rush to amend his last tax return to take the full charitable deduction, which he deliberately skipped to make it appear like he paid a higher rate?


When it all shakes out, I assume Mr. Romney will not owe any tax, just as he has not owed any tax over the previous 10 years.

Romney still has time to contradict my assumption before the Florida vote ends
 
2012-11-08 03:59:21 PM  

Lost Thought 00: He won the primaries, barely, by outspending Santorum 10-1. It stands to reason that since he only outspent Obama 1.1 - 1, he would lose. People need a LOT of convincing to vote for Romney


You also have to remember that a good portion of that 10 and 1 from the primaries saved Obama a ton of money putting out the material for him.
 
2012-11-08 03:59:52 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Delay: EyeballKid: Corvus: Couldn't Romney funded his own campaign? I thought you didn't have the same limits to fund your own campaigning. But then he asked others for money?

You expect a man who weaseled out of paying taxes for 10 years to suddenly become a decent human being?

Hey, no one has proof of that yet. Romney has time to show his tax returns before the election ends. Florida is still undecided. Come on Romney, show those returns.

Speaking of which, how fast do you think he had his accountant rush to amend his last tax return to take the full charitable deduction, which he deliberately skipped to make it appear like he paid a higher rate?


Immediately after they called Wisconsin for Obama. That shut off 90% of his paths to victory.
 
2012-11-08 04:00:57 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Aarontology: They're never going to understand, are they?

I'm thinking two more Presidential losses and a little light bulb might come on over their heads. In between their horns.


If 2014 doesn't go their way I'm worried they'll realize how screwed they are and just go balls out.
 
2012-11-08 04:02:47 PM  
Stopped reading at

TalenLee: Freakonomics guys

 
2012-11-08 04:05:56 PM  
Somehow I expect all those angry Republicans donors who got nothing out of the money they put in to play out this scene with Karl Rove while Mitt Romney is forced to watch.

Rove's Beating
 
2012-11-08 04:06:59 PM  
How about GOP's agenda from 2010-Present? This one is on the lot of them for letting the Tea Baggers speak and giving the bible pounders too much control over their platform.
 
2012-11-08 04:07:30 PM  
We need to start a list of the reasons Romney lost-

1. Lack of money
2. Mainstream media was in the bag for him
3. Too many blacks, latinos, and young people voted
4. Nate Silver
5. Skewed Polls
6. 50% of Americans want stuff, and Obama will give it to them.
7. Voter suppression (yeah, he actually said that)
8. Chris Christie
9. Hurricane Sandy
10. Unions
11. Voter fraud
 
2012-11-08 04:10:19 PM  

Lost Thought 00: He won the primaries, barely, by outspending Santorum 10-1. It stands to reason that since he only outspent Obama 1.1 - 1, he would lose. People need a LOT of convincing to vote for Romney


I've seen that 10:1 ratio in other articles, too. That's about what the difference was here in Iowa District 3 between Tom Latham and Leonard Boswell - Latham spent about 10x as much as Boswell, and only beat him 51%-46%. It's very telling that the GOP has to outspend their opponents by such a significant amount to get into office.

QU!RK1019: Lies cost Republicans dearly this election. Obviously the solution is more lies.


Here was the first sign that lying was no longer a viable strategy for the GOP.

www.globalwarming.org

This thing was touted in western Nebraska - a very sparsely populated, rural area filled with Republican supporters. Their economy is tanking because of population decline, poor public education, and a lack of available careers. And because it's so sparse, gas prices are higher there than in many other parts of the Great Plains. GOP leaders went in and told the population of western Nebraska that the Keystone XL pipeline would lower gas prices and create jobs. This should have been the very definition of "easy sell."

It wasn't. Despite the fact that western Nebraskans vote straight-party Republican tickets, they saw right through the Keystone XL lies.

To me, that was the very moment where I noticed people wouldn't blindly follow every single talking point they were handed. GOP leaders can keep buying major media outlets and dismantling public education to their hearts' content, but eventually they will run out of followers. And if they manage to completely vilify the Democratic Party, they'll just lose people to growing third parties. There is just no place for the Republican Party in the 21st Century.
 
2012-11-08 04:13:47 PM  
He lost because people, on the whole, do not want this brand of "conservatives" in office. Take Minnesota: overall, the state went for Obama. When electing senators, the state went for two democrats. But this is also the same state sending Michele Bachmann back to Washington. Supporters of hers and members of the GOP tout this as some sort of mandate. "Look at us! We have a majority in the House!" But that's only because the pockets of ignorance that are overruled in state-wide affairs are actually encouraged to thrive when you can draw funny lines round them so they have a majority in a specific area.
 
2012-11-08 04:14:50 PM  

sprawl15: I think the most telling part of the Romney campaign is that at no point did he have intercourse with a farm animal on stage.


Well, not literally.
 
2012-11-08 04:15:29 PM  
I guarantee that Ryan was the VP pick just to please donors. How'd that work out?
 
2012-11-08 04:16:09 PM  
Lack of money DID cost Romney the election; my lack of money to be precise. My wages are rock bottom, my boss was already gloating about all the additional cuts he would be making if Romney took the White House, and the GOP was fronting Mr. Vulture Capital, the self admitted King of the 1 percent, Champion of worker terminations and outsourcing, and the Right wants to know why I didn't vote for Romney?

/You gotta be shiattin' me. 
//Your guy lost, big time.
///Dry your vagina's and go on with life.
 
2012-11-08 04:16:24 PM  
I'm not sure whats so funny about the claim. The hundreds of millions of dollars floating around the election was superPAC money that couldn't be officially coordinated with the campaign and was largely wasted on supersaturation of television ads. That the campaign itself could be low on cash for things like GOTV efforts seems possible to me, as I recall Obama was out-fundingraising Romney at least in some of the months this year.

Romney would have lost with 5x the cash, though.
 
2012-11-08 04:16:45 PM  

ManateeGag: He lost because he has the charisma of moldy cheese.


Hey, the right type of mold can give a cheese a lot of character.
 
2012-11-08 04:16:48 PM  

CPennypacker: He lost because he was up against a better candidate.


If I had t seen the sideshow that was the republican primary, I would have said that anyone was a better candidate.
 
2012-11-08 04:17:58 PM  

Dinki: 7. Voter suppression (yeah, he actually said that)


Oh my.
 
2012-11-08 04:22:22 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: I'm not sure whats so funny about the claim. The hundreds of millions of dollars floating around the election was superPAC money that couldn't be officially coordinated with the campaign and was largely wasted on supersaturation of television ads.


Another point about that is normal political ads are given discount rates, SuperPACs get no such discount so you get less bang for your buck even when the coordination issue isn't taken into account. The only reason superPACs exist is because there is no other legal way to funnel huge sums of money from a few wealthy donors.
 
2012-11-08 04:23:59 PM  
Would you like to eat a turd or a steak? How about if I put extra seasoning on the turd?
 
2012-11-08 04:26:02 PM  

salvador.hardin: FTA: Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to moderate and independent donors.

So... not so much a lack of money as what he had to do to get it. Yes, when you openly put your campaign up for sale it might have an adverse affect on your ability to convince the electorate that you are trustworthy.


Normal campaign: Ask for money from people who support your positions.

Romney campaign: Fix your positions to get support from people with money.

By the way, am I alone in finding it remarkable that the only people Romney felt any obligation of consistency to was those with even more money than he has?
 
2012-11-08 04:26:10 PM  

Dinki: We need to start a list of the reasons Romney lost-

1. Lack of money
2. Mainstream media was in the bag for him
3. Too many blacks, latinos, and young people voted
4. Nate Silver
5. Skewed Polls
6. 50% of Americans want stuff, and Obama will give it to them.
7. Voter suppression (yeah, he actually said that)
8. Chris Christie
9. Hurricane Sandy
10. Unions
11. Voter fraud

12. People not sharing Facebook postings
 
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