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(KVOA Tucson)   Tucson's January 8th gunman Jared Loughner sentenced to life in prison, followed by life in prison, then life in prison, life in prison, life in prison, life in prison, one more life in prison, and finally another 140 years. Sounds about right   (kvoa.com) divider line 280
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2012-11-08 03:14:32 PM  
 
2012-11-08 03:21:04 PM  
People never seem to understand that each individual crime has a sentence.
 
2012-11-08 03:23:56 PM  
Isn't that a little harsh? Wasn't he just trying to survey the crowd?
 
2012-11-08 03:31:30 PM  
Just be glad he's not an Israeli commando. He could end up in prison for 13,000 years!
 
2012-11-08 03:35:08 PM  
Yet another patriot simply exercising his 2nd amendment rights and being persecuted for it. Thanks Fartbama!
 
2012-11-08 03:38:54 PM  
That's fine. A lunatic like him should never see the light of day again.

Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


I won't say that rhetoric can't lead to things like this, but we're talking about a guy who is obviously off his rocker. That may have provided him with a direction to aim his crazy train in, but if it wasn't that, it would likely have been something else.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-08 03:41:30 PM  
People never seem to understand that each individual crime has a sentence.

Depends on the crime. Under federal law you normally get a quantity discount for multiple crimes. When the sentencing guideline goes off the chart (Madoff) the judge is encouraged to make all the sentences consecutive. When life sentences are involved (this case) it doesn't matter.
 
2012-11-08 03:42:35 PM  
quote from Gifford's husband:Giffords stood by her husband, Mark Kelly, as he addressed the shooter: "Mr. Loughner, pay close attention to this: Though you are mentally ill, you are responsible for the death and hurt you inflicted upon all of us on January 8 of last year. You know this. Gabby and I know this. Everyone in this courtroom knows this.
"You have decades upon decades to contemplate what you did. But after today, after this moment, here and now, Gabby and I are done thinking about you."


Props to the hubby; I think I would have just went with FU you lunatic, but it was open court.
 
2012-11-08 03:45:13 PM  
Good.
 
2012-11-08 03:50:01 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!



^And the idiotic posts begin.
 
2012-11-08 04:14:20 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


Derp. A slate article from two days after the shootings...give it a rest, dude.
 
2012-11-08 04:23:42 PM  
he should have gotten the needle

Unacceptable punishment IMO
 
2012-11-08 04:25:28 PM  

cman: he should have gotten the needle

Unacceptable punishment IMO


Not really. He'll grow old with the knowledge that he farked his life away over some transient youthful rage.

And buttsex.
 
2012-11-08 04:27:58 PM  

cman: he should have gotten the needle

Unacceptable punishment IMO


He pleaded guilty to avoid the death penalty. That also waived all further appeals and any option for an insanity plea. He saved the government a hell of a lot of money.
 
2012-11-08 04:33:01 PM  
...and who gets to pay for him staying alive?
 
2012-11-08 04:33:47 PM  
That's almost equal to 9 life sentences? Are they just taking precautions in case he's actually a cat?
 
2012-11-08 04:34:46 PM  

BostonEMT: ...and who gets to pay for him staying alive?


The same people that would pay for appeals were he not.

/Appeals which are in place for situations that aren't, you know, as necessarily clear cut.
//See: All the convicted murders from Texas that have been found out to have been *innocent*, etc in the past few years. While Loughner's not innocent, the system exists for a reason.
 
2012-11-08 04:35:03 PM  
Someone should give him the Jeffrey Dahmer treatment.
 
2012-11-08 04:35:21 PM  
Better give him an extra day and no pudding just to be sure
 
2012-11-08 04:35:45 PM  
Some 3-5 years for appeals, followed by execution, would be more just. But I guess this will do if it has to.
 
2012-11-08 04:37:05 PM  

The_Sponge: Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


^And the idiotic posts begin.


The_Sponge: Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


^And the idiotic posts begin.


Are you going to cry? Did someone point out the obvious?
 
2012-11-08 04:37:07 PM  
Why pay for it. Just fry him.

/fiscally conservative
 
2012-11-08 04:37:08 PM  

The_Sponge: Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


^And the idiotic posts begin.


With your idiot post, idiot?
 
2012-11-08 04:37:56 PM  

ZAZ: People never seem to understand that each individual crime has a sentence.

Depends on the crime. Under federal law you normally get a quantity discount for multiple crimes. When the sentencing guideline goes off the chart (Madoff) the judge is encouraged to make all the sentences consecutive. When life sentences are involved (this case) it doesn't matter.


Did you really mean consecutive - one sentence served at a time, or concurrent - all sentences served at the same time?

As for the multiple life sentences, my understanding is that it matters for things like parole hearings - after all it didn't take 'w/o possibility of parole' on there.
 
2012-11-08 04:38:26 PM  
unimpressed
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-08 04:39:22 PM  
after he dies, what do u do, search for his reincarnated soul in another body. and charge them with MARIJUANA POSSESSION
 
2012-11-08 04:39:59 PM  

elffster: The_Sponge: Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


^And the idiotic posts begin.

With your idiot post, idiot?


Are you really suggesting that a crazy man did crazy things because of the Tea Party? Do you have any evidence whatsoever for that?
 
2012-11-08 04:40:10 PM  

FF Mac: Why pay for it. Just fry him.

/fiscally conservative


Who gets to decide that he bypasses the usual appeals process for death row inmates?
 
2012-11-08 04:40:13 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Good.


Ditto.
 
2012-11-08 04:40:31 PM  
He'll only do half of that time.
 
2012-11-08 04:40:58 PM  
Yay.

Arizona taxpayers will make sure he's nice and comfy for the next 40 years.
 
2012-11-08 04:41:01 PM  

YixilTesiphon: elffster: The_Sponge: Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!


^And the idiotic posts begin.

With your idiot post, idiot?

Are you really suggesting that a crazy man did crazy things because of the Tea Party? Do you have any evidence whatsoever for that?


It just feels right to him.
 
2012-11-08 04:41:29 PM  

Lumpmoose: cman: he should have gotten the needle

Unacceptable punishment IMO

He pleaded guilty to avoid the death penalty. That also waived all further appeals and any option for an insanity plea. He saved the government a hell of a lot of money.


Oooh yeah. I agree that he deserves to die but this is definitely the cheaper and more efficient option.
 
2012-11-08 04:41:38 PM  
I hope in jail they call him the gimp

/Bring out the gimp
lh6.ggpht.com
 
2012-11-08 04:41:49 PM  

neglogon: Props to the hubby; I think I would have just went with FU you lunatic, but it was open court.


Words dilvered with a bit of indifference are even crueler than the ones filled with anger. His comment were excellent. If only he could have resisted the political soap box at such an occasion.
 
wee
2012-11-08 04:42:43 PM  
And now we get to pay for all his expenses while he slowly rots away.

Just mulch him already and be done with it...
 
2012-11-08 04:42:44 PM  
too good for him.

space him
 
2012-11-08 04:43:05 PM  
So he'll be out in 5 years with good behavior.
 
2012-11-08 04:43:43 PM  
He killed a kid. Will he be in general population at some time?
 
2012-11-08 04:43:51 PM  

The Muthaship: neglogon: Props to the hubby; I think I would have just went with FU you lunatic, but it was open court.

Words dilvered with a bit of indifference are even crueler than the ones filled with anger. His comment were excellent. If only he could have resisted the political soap box at such an occasion.




THIS.
 
2012-11-08 04:45:19 PM  
In this state we have elected officials so feckless in their leadership that they would say, as in the case of Governor Jan Brewer, "I don't think it has anything to do with the size of the magazine or the caliber of the gun." She went on and said, "Even if the shooter's weapon had held fewer bullets, he'd have another gun, maybe. He could have three guns in his pocket" - she said this just one week after a high capacity magazine allowed you to kill six and wound 19 others, before being wrestled to the ground while attempting to reload.

/golf clap..finally someone in Government with some farking sense about gun control. If i lived there i would vote for her. Crazy is crazy, and the guns have absolutely nothing to do with what happened beyond being a means to an end. He could have just as well run his car up to 100 mph and plowed it into a crowd of nuns and orphans. You going to debate outlawing cars? The actual debate this has brought is more about mental health issues...and how we can help those with them before they go bugshiat and kill innocent people. You cannot be denied buying a weapon unless you have been in a institute x amount of years ago, or are a felon. (like felons are going to try to buy a weapon the legal way). Sadly, there is almost no way to spot someone who is capable of this kind of act..you might think looking at some guy "wow..that dude is kinda off", but odds are he's not going to gun people down like bowling pins, he's just weird. It's impossible to point people out who are going to do this shiat, there is no way. All we can do is look at how people act, and most times its too late to stop someone like this.
 
2012-11-08 04:45:34 PM  
Public execution would be cheaper and would also be a damn fine deterrent.
A S-L-O-W death. Use fingernail clippers and salt.
There is no doubt about his guilt...Why waste money keeping him alive?
 
2012-11-08 04:46:09 PM  
And when he dies, he will probably end up a brain in a jar.
 
2012-11-08 04:46:50 PM  

BostonEMT


...and who gets to pay for him staying alive?


The remaining Bee Gees?
 
2012-11-08 04:46:56 PM  
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The look of terminal shock in their eyes.

Almost as if they watched or participated in the same program.....
 
2012-11-08 04:47:49 PM  
seems like he could escape quite easily by not taking his meds.
 
2012-11-08 04:47:51 PM  

nekom: That's fine. A lunatic like him should never see the light of day again.

Because People in power are Stupid: Thanks tea party!

I won't say that rhetoric can't lead to things like this, but we're talking about a guy who is obviously off his rocker. That may have provided him with a direction to aim his crazy train in, but if it wasn't that, it would likely have been something else.



Naw, we're not going to stop blaming the people who actually DID influence him because you think in an alternate universe something else would have set him off. You don't know that. What we DO know is that the vitriol and hatred spewed by the Tea Party was a contributing factor to this tragedy.
 
2012-11-08 04:48:02 PM  
A young person in jail for that long is such a waste of tax money. Just put him to death now and be done with it. I don't give a shiat if he's crazy. And don't farking dare tell me he might be innocent and we should wait decades for new evidence to pop up.
 
2012-11-08 04:50:02 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: What we DO know is that the vitriol and hatred spewed by the Tea Party was a contributing factor to this tragedy.


Really? You know that? How?
 
2012-11-08 04:50:17 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Public execution would be cheaper and would also be a damn fine deterrent.
A S-L-O-W death. Use fingernail clippers and salt.
There is no doubt about his guilt...Why waste money keeping him alive?


/the libs won't allow us to just end this piece of shiat. And there is a valid argument about "he suffers in jail longer, if we were to kill him..he gets off easy". I can see merit on both sides of the fence. Granted, if it was my kid that was killed i would want to shoot him myself, and would, if they let me.
 
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