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(Boortz)   Boortz continues his nice little fark you to the Tea Party, dominionists, and the entire social conservative movement. An utter fark you   (boortz.com) divider line 239
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2012-11-08 02:13:50 PM  
Good luck with getting any of the people targeted in that op-ed to actually read it, much less heed the advice.

Based on what I've seen on Fb, all the Teabaggers have been too busy quoting scripture to save us, or quoting snippets of constitution to bother doing anything else.
 
2012-11-08 02:16:15 PM  
ur boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

They still don't get it.

It wasn't about abortion. It was about the fact that the GOP doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with rape.
 
2012-11-08 02:22:04 PM  
Shorter Boortz: The problem with republicans is they aren't libertarians. Thanks genius. I mean, granted this is at least more forward thinking than the "this shiat sandwich is delicious" theme that Reason has been operating under this year, but it's still fairly dumb.
 
2012-11-08 02:23:07 PM  

Aarontology: ur boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

They still don't get it.

It wasn't about abortion. It was about the fact that the GOP doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with rape.


Well that's not fair.

If anything, it sounded to me like they were saying women should welcome rape, because after all if it happens its God's will.

Big difference.
 
2012-11-08 02:23:23 PM  
I like how his readers all took Neal Boortz to task for being so wrong immediately afterwards.
 
2012-11-08 02:30:08 PM  

gilgigamesh: Well that's not fair.

If anything, it sounded to me like they were saying women should welcome rape, because after all if it happens its God's will.

Big difference.


they should be glad God is blessing them for the immorality of being a woman.
 
2012-11-08 02:34:05 PM  
Oh, look at this. A conservative who I don't immediately feel is adversarial.
 
2012-11-08 02:34:29 PM  
Your boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

Wait a minute...I thought Boortz was a rugged individualist independent with loyalties that lie with no major political party?
 
2012-11-08 02:35:48 PM  
Boortz still doesn't get that at least half--probably more--of the GOP is composed of social conservatives. Throwing the social conservatives out would just result in the GOP getting beat even more.

But then, you might ask, how can the GOP move forward? Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked. The GOP couldn't beat a black "socialist Muslim atheist Marxist" candidate even with hundreds of millions of dollars in SuperPAC money and folks like Rove and Adelson shoveling billions of dollars in. And there's proportionally fewer and fewer angry white males (i.e., Boortz's audience) around to vote GOP, and will be for the foreseeable future. Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked.
 
2012-11-08 02:39:30 PM  
Also, I haven't read a single post-election column by a conservative pundit that counseled against appealing to social conservatives that wasn't met with abject excoriation by the comments below it.
 
2012-11-08 02:42:37 PM  

The Third Man: Boortz still doesn't get that at least half--probably more--of the GOP is composed of social conservatives. Throwing the social conservatives out would just result in the GOP getting beat even more.

But then, you might ask, how can the GOP move forward? Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked. The GOP couldn't beat a black "socialist Muslim atheist Marxist" candidate even with hundreds of millions of dollars in SuperPAC money and folks like Rove and Adelson shoveling billions of dollars in. And there's proportionally fewer and fewer angry white males (i.e., Boortz's audience) around to vote GOP, and will be for the foreseeable future. Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked.


My brother and I had this discussion last night about how the GOP future looks, whether or not that future is positive, and what they can do if it isn't positive. Our best idea was that maybe we could go to a multiple party system like that in U.K,, or some other such country, instead of just having two parties with control of the country split between the two. That way, they could rid themselves of the social issue lunatics and allow them to form their own party.
 
2012-11-08 02:48:35 PM  

The Third Man: But then, you might ask, how can the GOP move forward? Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked.


I had this crazy dream where Bill Clinton leads a charge of moderates to pull together from both parties, kicking the Conservatives to the curb to form their own right-wing party and the Democrats to pull more liberal. I think something like that happened in Israeli, and has absolutely zero chance of happening here.
 
2012-11-08 02:49:28 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Also, I haven't read a single post-election column by a conservative pundit that counseled against appealing to social conservatives that wasn't met with abject excoriation by the comments below it.


I admit its a little early in the grieving process -- clearly we haven't worked past the "denial" stage -- but that doesn't bode well for our friends in the GOP bringing their listing party back onto the rails.
 
2012-11-08 02:51:29 PM  

Cythraul: My brother and I had this discussion last night about how the GOP future looks, whether or not that future is positive, and what they can do if it isn't positive. Our best idea was that maybe we could go to a multiple party system like that in U.K,, or some other such country, instead of just having two parties with control of the country split between the two. That way, they could rid themselves of the social issue lunatics and allow them to form their own party.


If this could mean I would actually have the chance to vote for a real live liberal for president I would be all for this idea.

Instead I had to vote for that republican guy on Tuesday.

No, not that republican. The black one.
 
2012-11-08 02:53:32 PM  

RexTalionis: I like how his readers all took Neal Boortz to task for being so wrong immediately afterwards.


Introspection and deep self-analysis are signs of good character. I think you can connect the dots from there.
 
2012-11-08 02:54:47 PM  

sigdiamond2000: Your boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

Wait a minute...I thought Boortz was a rugged individualist independent with loyalties that lie with no major political party?


He was Libertarian when I got into him a decade ago, but he started bending more right as time went on. He has some good points, and I did discover Fark through him, but then he gets crazy and ruins it.
 
2012-11-08 03:07:59 PM  
Best part? Forever.
 
2012-11-08 03:21:31 PM  
Like a phoenix, it needs to burst into flames and from its ashes rebuild into a party focused on ...
Limited government
Tax reform
A strong military
The rule of law
Reducing regulations
Promoting capitalism - especially small businesses
Restoring self-reliance
Honoring the Constitution


Here's the thing, Boortz. The political center has already moved rightwards. Obama has already implemented much of what you just listed. Without social conservatism, what do Republicans have?
 
2012-11-08 03:26:54 PM  

loveblondieo: He was Libertarian when I got into him a decade ago, but he started bending more right as time went on


Not supporting Obama: Right wing.

Even a guy like me who thinking that weed should be legal, that abortion is nunyerbidness, doesn't give a flying fark who you want to marry (hell, I'll come to the wedding and celebrate with you!), thinks your religion (or lack thereof) has no place in the legislature (or bedroom for that matter) or any other of a long list of behavioral controlling laws (for your own good) are farking bullshiat is considered "right wing" because I think that government control of your life from the other side (for the good of society) is just as farked up.
 
2012-11-08 03:32:55 PM  
Boortz pretty much nailed it there. I actually enjoy listening to him but I only get reruns on the weekends.
 
2012-11-08 03:36:02 PM  
An example of someone who will never get it.. Some selected posts, from one of my wife's relatives on Fb, accompanied by a link to an O'Reilly's post on some crap.. :

Our Country tis of Thee, sweet land of LIBERTY. Obama, You didn't build that so leave it alone and quit tearing it down! IF YOU DON'T LOVE IT, LEAVE IT AND GO BACK TO YOUR HOMELAND....

What I truely believe is that Obama wants the economy to fail. This helps to user in socialism. For folks who what that...why don't they just leave and go to a country where you can get what you want and leaves this capitalistic society alone? You didn't build that!
 
2012-11-08 03:41:03 PM  

Aarontology: ur boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

They still don't get it.

It wasn't about abortion. It was about the fact that the GOP doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with rape.


I see his point here, the comments on rape were in reference to whether abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest. Akin with his "legitimate rape" reply and Mourdock with his "God wanted that baby" idiocy were their answers to that question.
 
2012-11-08 03:46:11 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Even a guy like me...


As far as I am concerned, the right-wing guys are the ones who want to outlaw abortion, encode discrimination into law against the LGBT community, and hold show trials because, you know, brown people. The rest of you are just selfish dicks.
 
2012-11-08 03:48:53 PM  

timujin: Aarontology: ur boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

They still don't get it.

It wasn't about abortion. It was about the fact that the GOP doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with rape.

I see his point here, the comments on rape were in reference to whether abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest. Akin with his "legitimate rape" reply and Mourdock with his "God wanted that baby" idiocy were their answers to that question.


I see it too, but it's not the abortion part people were upset about.

It was the rape bits. Everyone expects a conservative politician to be against abortion. they didn't expect them to be seemingly OK with rape. Or that they believed that women can shut the whole thing down.
 
2012-11-08 03:53:53 PM  

loveblondieo: sigdiamond2000: Your boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

Wait a minute...I thought Boortz was a rugged individualist independent with loyalties that lie with no major political party?

He was Libertarian when I got into him a decade ago, but he started bending more right as time went on. He has some good points, and I did discover Fark through him, but then he gets crazy and ruins it.


THAT's the Boortz I loved to listen to a decade ago. Back right after 9/11 I engaged in a dubious flirtation with AM talk radio (I got better). Couldn't stomach Limbaugh, considered Hannity to be a giant douche pussy dickwad, but could listen to Boortz, because he had no time for the Mrs. Grundys of the world. I stopped listening to him when Obama was elected and he freaked the fark out. Glad to see he's got one bit of sanity left in him before he retires.
 
2012-11-08 03:55:32 PM  

gilgigamesh: Aarontology: ur boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

They still don't get it.

It wasn't about abortion. It was about the fact that the GOP doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with rape.

Well that's not fair.

If anything, it sounded to me like they were saying women should welcome rape, because after all if it happens its God's will.

Big difference.


Remember it's God's will and plan you got raped, but not that you get an abortion. I wonder if any of those Calvinists will eventually reconcile their belief in predestination with their other belief that salvation doesn't come through acts, so it's not like that abortion is keeping you from heaven.
 
2012-11-08 03:57:13 PM  

vartian: The rest of you are just selfish dicks


Because...?
 
2012-11-08 04:08:12 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Not supporting Obama: Right wing.

Even a guy like me who thinking that weed should be legal, that abortion is nunyerbidness, doesn't give a flying fark who you want to marry (hell, I'll come to the wedding and celebrate with you!), thinks your religion (or lack thereof) has no place in the legislature (or bedroom for that matter) or any other of a long list of behavioral controlling laws (for your own good) are farking bullshiat is considered "right wing"


Actually, with the exception of legalizing weed, it sounds to me like you voted for the wrong guy.
 
2012-11-08 04:10:05 PM  

Aarontology: timujin: Aarontology: ur boys Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock and John Koster chased away millions of female voters with their idiotic remarks about abortion ... and they cost us two seats in the Senate.

They still don't get it.

It wasn't about abortion. It was about the fact that the GOP doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with rape.

I see his point here, the comments on rape were in reference to whether abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest. Akin with his "legitimate rape" reply and Mourdock with his "God wanted that baby" idiocy were their answers to that question.

I see it too, but it's not the abortion part people were upset about.

It was the rape bits. Everyone expects a conservative politician to be against abortion. they didn't expect them to be seemingly OK with rape. Or that they believed that women can shut the whole thing down.


Yeah... you'd think after the blowup over Akin's moronic comments, the Republican party would have sent out something saying "Hey, guys, if a reporter asks you about rape, just answer that it's not something you're going to discuss at this time. Whatever you do, don't give an opinion!"
 
2012-11-08 04:10:31 PM  

Without the evangelicals and social conservatives, the GOP takes an even bigger bath. Not sure what it is about being libertarian that makes you think everyone would like your ideas if you were just given a chance...maybe the overwhelming confidence in which they think they're right about everything.

And when it comes to immigration, rounding up all the Mexicans in this country and sending them back to Mexico is never, ever going to happen. Do you hear that? It ISN'T going to happen! Does it occur to you that these people come here because they WANT to work? Do you really have such a huge problem with aspirational people?

Georgia has now signed one of the most stringent immigration bills into law. Why? Because the federal government has done next to nothing to secure our borders against the Mexican invasion
Mexican invasion!

You need to understand that many of the illegal aliens swarming into the southwestern United States have a completely different view of this situation than you might. To you they're illegal immigrants. To them? Well, they may well think that this is their territory anyway and they don't need anyone's permission to be here. Truth be told, the way California is going we might be more than willing to cede that mess to Mexico in the near future anyway
These the aspirational people you're talking about, cocksmoke?

This has some proggie panties in a wad because they are concerned about raaaacial profiling. Even Obama, while overall "pleased" with the ruling says, "I remain concerned about the practical impact of the remaining provision of the Arizona law that requires local law enforcement officials to check the immigration status of anyone they even suspect to be here illegally. ... No American should ever live under a cloud of suspicion just because of what they look like." In order to make sure that Arizona is not raaacially profiling
Raaacially profiling, got it. Ha!

Sounds like you're really helping with Latino voters.
Somebody's got to say it! AMIRITE?
 
2012-11-08 04:10:34 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: vartian: The rest of you are just selfish dicks

Because...?


If I may interject - I think this time around, with this candidate (Obama), what's being offered is not the anachronistic "Democrats = Big Government/Robbing from the Rich and Giving to the Poor".

And while I could very well be wrong, I think it's part of the reason Romney lost. The old arguments don't stand up the reality of this guy.

I don't think your choice against Obama makes you a selfish dick. I think it means you made a choice based on an inaccurate summation of the guy, what he's done, and what he stands for.
 
2012-11-08 04:13:46 PM  

timujin: Yeah... you'd think after the blowup over Akin's moronic comments, the Republican party would have sent out something saying "Hey, guys, if a reporter asks you about rape, just answer that it's not something you're going to discuss at this time. Whatever you do, don't give an opinion!"


yeah, seriously.
 
2012-11-08 04:15:55 PM  

Aarontology: timujin: Yeah... you'd think after the blowup over Akin's moronic comments, the Republican party would have sent out something saying "Hey, guys, if a reporter asks you about rape, just answer that it's not something you're going to discuss at this time. Whatever you do, don't give an opinion!"

yeah, seriously.


shiat, compared to what they did say, they'd almost have been better off just raping the reporter, then asking "what do you think?"
 
2012-11-08 04:28:49 PM  
This is the old Neal. I am wondering if retiring has made him hit that frak it I don't care point. Who cares about sponsers at this point.
 
2012-11-08 04:29:04 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: vartian: The rest of you are just selfish dicks

Because...?


Because they care more about taxes than people. Because everything they seem concerned about ends at their own property line. It is one constant tirade of how someone else getting something hurts them. Ayn Rand went through a cultural resurgence because of the Republican party, and only because they cherry-picked the shiat out of her philosophy to justify being selfish dicks.
 
2012-11-08 04:30:28 PM  
I don't think there's any ONE thing wrong with the GOP. I think there are a couple big issues, and a whole slew of smaller ones. contempt for the electorate, convinced of their own moral superiority, a downright bizarre mix of authoritarian BDSM sexual fantasies mixed in with their heretical religious beliefs. you can tick 'em off one by one.

I will say this though: by any metric you'd care to use, the GOP was firmly and clearly rejected by the nation this week. they were told 'NO' in clear and uncertain terms. And that's difficult to take. it's hard for them to avoid or recast as 'well maybe they meant to come back later'. i'm not sure the inner circle of the GOP liked that answer very much either...but the rank and file really did seem to honestly believe that THEY were going to win, that their ideology was the dominant belief structure in this country, that the US really is a 'christian nation'. when Obama got re-elected by a more than comfortable margin it was a giant unavoidable rejection of their entire world view. for the first time in a long time, the harsh light of reality broke through into their comfortable little closed ecosystem and a lot of precious little snowflakes got burned by its glaring touch. I think this week shook the GOP rank and file, and shook them hard. I just don't know what the end result of all that rocking is gonna be for the Republican party.
 
2012-11-08 04:34:58 PM  
I agree with him that abortion is going to be a dealbreaker.  If one is opposed to abortions one doesn't need to get them.  Saying that you want to legislate it so that NOBODY can get an abortion means I'm not going to vote for you, plain and simple.
 
I know that sounds incredibly reductivist but whateves.
 
2012-11-08 04:35:21 PM  
Weren't social issues how the GOP was going to make inroads with Latino voters?

Apparently all they need is a Spanish translation of Atlas Shrugged?
 
2012-11-08 04:40:36 PM  

vartian: Dancin_In_Anson: vartian: The rest of you are just selfish dicks

Because...?

Because they care more about taxes than people. Because everything they seem concerned about ends at their own property line. It is one constant tirade of how someone else getting something hurts them. Ayn Rand went through a cultural resurgence because of the Republican party, and only because they cherry-picked the shiat out of her philosophy to justify being selfish dicks.


And it's that selfishness that causes them to completely overlook all the other ways the GOP shiats on individual liberty.

They'll accept the anti-gay marriage people, the anti-abortion people, the theocrats, the drug warriors, and all the other folks in the GOP tent because they want that tax cut. All while claiming to care about individual liberty.
 
2012-11-08 04:47:04 PM  
The fun thing about this election is that in Florida, Cuban-Americans voted for Obama 48% to Mitt's 52%.

They're even losing credibility in the Cuban community.
 
2012-11-08 04:55:35 PM  
Boortz is still a cockgobbler, just one with a few active brain cells now.
 
2012-11-08 04:59:57 PM  

gilgigamesh: Actually, with the exception of legalizing weed, it sounds to me like you voted for the wrong guy.


On the contrary. Johnson is very much in favor of legalization.

Diogenes: I think it means you made a choice based on an inaccurate summation of the guy, what he's done, and what he stands for.


Which is what? "Fairness"? How does a government go about such a task?


vartian: Because they care more about taxes than people.


I see.

vartian: Because everything they seem concerned about ends at their own property line. It is one constant tirade of how someone else getting something hurts them.


I assume that you are employed. If so, why?

Aarontology: the other ways the GOP shiats on individual liberty.


BINGO! I refer you to my img1.fark.net
 
2012-11-08 05:31:35 PM  
All that's bs neal. Obama is in the wh because he promised loot. The Founding Fathers predicted what would kill the Republic they founded, and they were right.

They did? When was this?
 
2012-11-08 05:35:20 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Even a guy like me who thinking that weed should be legal, that abortion is nunyerbidness, doesn't give a flying fark who you want to marry (hell, I'll come to the wedding and celebrate with you!), thinks your religion (or lack thereof) has no place in the legislature (or bedroom for that matter) or any other of a long list of behavioral controlling laws (for your own good) are farking bullshiat is considered "right wing" because I think that government control of your life from the other side (for the good of society) is just as farked up.


That's probably because government progressing society is the point of government.
 
2012-11-08 05:36:57 PM  
Sounds like someone has realized the the GOP is not the party of personal freedom or small government.
 
2012-11-08 05:37:35 PM  
There were quite a few of my executive and managerial colleagues pulling for Romney, and whenever I asked them why their answer was invariably in the format of "I don't want my __________ to _________."
Not even the slightest hint of altruism.
 
2012-11-08 05:38:08 PM  

sprawl15: That's probably because government progressing society is the point of government.


Can't do it on your own eh? At least you're willing to admit it.
 
2012-11-08 05:38:33 PM  

The Third Man: Boortz still doesn't get that at least half--probably more--of the GOP is composed of social conservatives. Throwing the social conservatives out would just result in the GOP getting beat even more.

But then, you might ask, how can the GOP move forward? Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked. The GOP couldn't beat a black "socialist Muslim atheist Marxist" candidate even with hundreds of millions of dollars in SuperPAC money and folks like Rove and Adelson shoveling billions of dollars in. And there's proportionally fewer and fewer angry white males (i.e., Boortz's audience) around to vote GOP, and will be for the foreseeable future. Sorry, Boortz, you guys are farked.


This. Right now the GOP is trying to detach the Teabagger Facehugger from them, and don't seem to get that the Teabaggers are the real GOP. You take away the Teabaggers, and you're left with old people who don't get that the Democrats have absorbed that during the Clinton days.

Let the Republican Party die. It has no use outside of nostalgia for a few and disgusting hatred for most. There's no reason for it to even exist because it openly backs rape. It has hit the wall and we no longer need it or it's corporatist sock puppetry.
 
2012-11-08 05:38:41 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Not supporting Obama: Right wing.

Even a guy like me who thinking that weed should be legal, that abortion is nunyerbidness, doesn't give a flying fark who you want to marry (hell, I'll come to the wedding and celebrate with you!), thinks your religion (or lack thereof) has no place in the legislature (or bedroom for that matter) or any other of a long list of behavioral controlling laws (for your own good) are farking bullshiat is considered "right wing" because I think that government control of your life from the other side (for the good of society) is just as farked up.


Well, if you refer to Republican Senators as "our" Senators, you're probably right-wing.
 
2012-11-08 05:39:26 PM  
Jesus Christ have you NOT been paying attention?

Since 1994 every two years, it's the "end of the opposition party as we know it!" This election and these republicans aren't any different than the Dems in '94 or the Reps in '06.

In 2014 it will be over for the Dems, it's their turn.

The media will be complicit because they're the only ones who benefit from unlimited money in politics and keeping each side at the others throat is good for business.
 
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