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2012-11-08 03:30:20 PM  
I don't trust anything on Craigslist. You never know what kind of weirdo you'll end up having to meet.
 
2012-11-08 04:21:07 PM  
Oh, good, a little "F-You" to the people of my state who inexplicably took him in, made him Governor, and gave him the idea he was a popular politician.

Now I feel a little better about him losing, and I didn't think that was possible.
 
2012-11-08 04:24:27 PM  
can they get a refund on this? because if they couldn't... it would have been supernice for him to have the fireworks go ahead as a celebration of our nation's democracy.
 
2012-11-08 04:27:56 PM  
This is the kind of fiscal irresponsibility we just avoided.
 
2012-11-08 04:28:24 PM  
static2.businessinsider.com

Awwwww. There, there, Mittens.
 
2012-11-08 04:32:56 PM  
The ridiculous overconfidence from this moron I can understand. But a fireworks display in MA, where he never had any hope of winning?

"FU, Massachusetts! I'm baaaaaack!"
 
2012-11-08 04:38:46 PM  
Personally, I would have gone with the fireworks display. Fireworks displays always cheer me up.
 
2012-11-08 05:47:39 PM  
The reason that they lost is the same as the reason they never saw it coming.

When you surround yourselves with people complicit in creating an alternate reality it is never going to be pretty when actual reality sticks its dick in your pooper.
 
2012-11-08 06:19:59 PM  
He wanted to flaunt his victory in Boston????

That would go over about as well as Obama fireworks in Hayden Lake, Idaho
 
2012-11-08 06:20:49 PM  
Seattle had a bunch of people setting off fireworks.
 
2012-11-08 06:21:00 PM  

Tigger: The reason that they lost is the same as the reason they never saw it coming.

When you surround yourselves with people complicit in creating an alternate reality it is never going to be pretty when actual reality sticks its dick in your pooper.


I think we should rename "Hubris," "Romney."
 
2012-11-08 06:21:11 PM  

Tigger: The reason that they lost is the same as the reason they never saw it coming.

When you surround yourselves with people complicit in creating an alternate reality it is never going to be pretty when actual reality sticks its dick in your pooper.


And it's sad when you realise that the same mathematics you need to perform analysis like Nate Silver did is the same population statistics needed in econometric analyses and, well, making good economic decisions. Not seeing it coming means they didn't have people on their team that could make the simple deductions.

It makes sense, in that it's well known they don't want to know about marginal economic stimulus utility, or where real tax breaks versus tax burden should go in a recession, but still. It's sad.
 
2012-11-08 06:22:20 PM  
Damn, I was hoping it was an actual Craigslist ad. Subby made me sad.
 
2012-11-08 06:24:55 PM  
Hubris among the special one percenters.
How's that for living inside a bubble?
 
2012-11-08 06:27:28 PM  
The lesson here is to always spend your victory money on booze.

If you win, you'll want it;
If you lose, you'll need it.

/Mormons excepted, of course
 
2012-11-08 06:28:11 PM  
OMFG XD what were the repubs thinking? Nate Silver has to be laughing him self silly over this one.
 
2012-11-08 06:28:44 PM  
- Writes only a victory speech
- Sets up transition team website
- People who don't pick up the phone for internal polling for Romney campaign are counted as Romney voters
- Fireworks display

Wow, this guy really thought it was his turn and he was guaranteed to win.
 
2012-11-08 06:29:43 PM  
Someone should have set them off the moment he conceded. That would be an effective trolling.
 
2012-11-08 06:30:47 PM  

Fjornir: Seattle had a bunch of people setting off fireworks.


I don't think "hey man, spark this shiat up" was referring to fireworks.
 
2012-11-08 06:31:11 PM  
...the gift that keeps on giving.

...and giving.

...and giving.

...and giving.


What's next, a story that Romney was planning to use his $250 million to construct a giant laser to write "ROMNEY/RYAN 2012" on the farking Moon?
 
2012-11-08 06:32:52 PM  
He really did think he had it in the bag.

It wasn't a rumor that he hadn't written a concession speech.

CBS: Romney shellshocked by loss
Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.


Imagine the kind of bubble he would have been living in as president.
 
2012-11-08 06:33:01 PM  
stick it up the collective asses of Rove, Romney, Adelson, the Koch brothers, and light the fuses.
 
2012-11-08 06:37:39 PM  

lincoln65: He really did think he had it in the bag.

It wasn't a rumor that he hadn't written a concession speech.

CBS: Romney shellshocked by loss
Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Imagine the kind of bubble he would have been living in as president.


Bahahahaaha.
 
2012-11-08 06:38:58 PM  

kbronsito: can they get a refund on this? because if they couldn't... it would have been supernice for him to have the fireworks go ahead as a celebration of our nation's democracy.


He can just amend his tax return from 2011 and add back in the charitable contributions he didn't deduct. Get a few dollars back.
 
2012-11-08 06:40:22 PM  

Ed Finnerty: This is the kind of fiscal irresponsibility we just avoided.


Yeah, but he cancelled his staffer's campaign credit cards before they could use them to get back to their own homes, so that proves that he would be just the hardass we need.

The one and only thing that was always constant with Mitt Romney: you could always count on him being a massive dick.
 
2012-11-08 06:40:56 PM  
Obama should really step in and offer to buy it:)
 
2012-11-08 06:41:34 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: - Writes only a victory speech
- Sets up transition team website
- People who don't pick up the phone for internal polling for Romney campaign are counted as Romney voters
- Fireworks display

Wow, this guy really thought it was his turn and he was guaranteed to win.


WTF? I knew about the other three, but hadn't heard that about polling. Who the hell does that?
 
2012-11-08 06:44:04 PM  
Fireworks!? Seriously?! Dear god is that man self absorbed.
 
2012-11-08 06:44:07 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: - Writes only a victory speech
- Sets up transition team website
- People who don't pick up the phone for internal polling for Romney campaign are counted as Romney voters
- Fireworks display

Wow, this guy really thought it was his turn and he was guaranteed to win.


I don't really ever get into the Mormon bashing, but things like this really have me convinced that he really believed that he was the White Horse prophecy, and therefore that his victory was preordained. It was the "I didn't bother to write a concession speech" that convinced me. Farking everyone writes a concession speech, much less people who are behind in virtually every poll.
 
2012-11-08 06:44:42 PM  

kbronsito: can they get a refund on this? because if they couldn't... it would have been supernice for him to have the fireworks go ahead as a celebration of our nation's democracy.


Yeah, I just thought that as well. But his permit expired at 12:30am, so maybe it was just too late when that decision would have been made.
 
2012-11-08 06:46:08 PM  
Guy must have been farking delusional AND insane to think he was actually going to win. He really is the gift that keeps on giving.
 
2012-11-08 06:46:22 PM  
The best part of this story is that he set up the permit so he could light the fireworks at 7PM. The man actually believed there was a chance that he could win so big that it would be obvious just based on the exit polls from Virginia.
 
2012-11-08 06:46:42 PM  
I would have loved for this to have been played at the Romney campaign headquarters right when Ohio was announced for Obama

Loser sound on youtubes!
 
2012-11-08 06:48:38 PM  

Abner Doon: lincoln65: He really did think he had it in the bag.

It wasn't a rumor that he hadn't written a concession speech.

CBS: Romney shellshocked by loss
Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Imagine the kind of bubble he would have been living in as president.

Bahahahaaha.


I'm really interested for the next few weeks as these stories start coming out. After '08, there was the big Palindump by her handlers where we found out things like Sarah Palin didn't know Africa was a continent, and would lash out at her staff when things didn't go well.

I imagine there are plenty such articles in the pipeline, seeing as his traveling press corps stated "We can't show a side of him that exists". I think the biggest such stories will be about how much they were shielding him from the media- he didn't do interviews, he didn't do TV shows, he almost never proposed serious policy, he didn't campaign, just flew from city to city to repeat his stump speech.

Not to mention, Paul Ryan will eventually come forward with the details in how that campaign was being run, once his running mate fades from the public eye.
 
2012-11-08 06:50:28 PM  

lincoln65: He really did think he had it in the bag.

It wasn't a rumor that he hadn't written a concession speech.

CBS: Romney shellshocked by loss
Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Imagine the kind of bubble he would have been living in as president.


I put a lot of it on his staff. These people are all professionals and have worked in this business for years, and were hired specifically because of their skills in this field; it is simply unfathomable that they were entirely unaware of the reality of the situation. Did they actually ignore all other data and believe everything the right-wing polls and predictions said? Or, were they aware of the reality and took no steps to either inform Romney or adjust their strategy accordingly?

Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.
 
2012-11-08 06:51:00 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

"Please, Jesus, please bring fireworks back, as I know thy would have done..."
 
2012-11-08 06:51:07 PM  
I'm loving this. The GOP must have been in a bubble or something. It don't think anyone int he national party of any note thought victory was anything but an absolute certainty.
 
2012-11-08 06:51:20 PM  

Abner Doon: "There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."


I understand being raped is worse.
 
2012-11-08 06:51:57 PM  
And they say Obama's the self-absorbed egomaniac?
 
2012-11-08 06:52:12 PM  

Hollie Maea: Sock Ruh Tease: - Writes only a victory speech
- Sets up transition team website
- People who don't pick up the phone for internal polling for Romney campaign are counted as Romney voters
- Fireworks display

Wow, this guy really thought it was his turn and he was guaranteed to win.

I don't really ever get into the Mormon bashing, but things like this really have me convinced that he really believed that he was the White Horse prophecy, and therefore that his victory was preordained. It was the "I didn't bother to write a concession speech" that convinced me. Farking everyone writes a concession speech, much less people who are behind in virtually every poll.


I assume he lost BECAUSE he didn't write a concession speech. The whatever high atop the thing must have been pretty wrathful.
 
2012-11-08 06:54:08 PM  

Antimatter: I'm loving this. The GOP must have been in a bubble or something. It don't think anyone int he national party of any note thought victory was anything but an absolute certainty.


It would interesting if we could get any numbers on how the differences in how the race was portrayed affected turnout. For the last month, the Democrats have all been "OMG OMG WE'RE GONNA LOSE" despite all of the data that said otherwise, and the GOP has been "Chill the fark out, we got this", again despite all of the data that said otherwise.
 
2012-11-08 06:56:29 PM  

lincoln65: He really did think he had it in the bag.

It wasn't a rumor that he hadn't written a concession speech.

CBS: Romney shellshocked by loss
Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Imagine the kind of bubble he would have been living in as president.


From the same article:

1. They misread turnout. They expected it to be between 2004 and 2008 levels, with a plus-2 or plus-3 Democratic electorate, instead of plus-7 as it was in 2008. Their assumptions were wrong on both sides: The president's base turned out and Romney's did not. More African-Americans voted in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida than in 2008. And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain.

I don't buy it. Romney got 2 million fewer votes than McCain, but Obama got 9 million fewer votes than Obama the first time around. Both bases were depressed, but clearly Obama's was more depressed.

With all the reports of lines, though, I don't get how turnout was 11 million voters less than 2008. Maybe more people are disenchanted.
 
2012-11-08 06:56:57 PM  

elchip: And they say Obama's the self-absorbed egomaniac?


It's not ego, it's self-confidence!!

politicalwire.com
 
2012-11-08 06:57:36 PM  
That's the kind of thing that happens when you use faith-based polling rather than, y'know, actual math and stuff.
 
2012-11-08 06:58:14 PM  

qorkfiend: I put a lot of it on his staff.


Honestly if anyone ever hires Eric Fehrnstrom again, even if it's just manning the burger line, they deserve what's coming for them. Remember that this fool was chief adviser both for Romney and for Scott Brown. I'm sure the endless harping on "Fauxahontas" was his brilliant plan.
 
2012-11-08 07:00:42 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: - Writes only a victory speech


Anybody that tries to be President without watching every episode of The West Wing does not deserve to be President.
 
2012-11-08 07:00:51 PM  

elchip: lincoln65: He really did think he had it in the bag.

It wasn't a rumor that he hadn't written a concession speech.

CBS: Romney shellshocked by loss
Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan's wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.
"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," said another adviser. "It was like a sucker punch."
Their emotion was visible on their faces when they walked on stage after Romney finished his remarks, which Romney had hastily composed, knowing he had to say something.

Imagine the kind of bubble he would have been living in as president.

From the same article:

1. They misread turnout. They expected it to be between 2004 and 2008 levels, with a plus-2 or plus-3 Democratic electorate, instead of plus-7 as it was in 2008. Their assumptions were wrong on both sides: The president's base turned out and Romney's did not. More African-Americans voted in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida than in 2008. And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain.

I don't buy it. Romney got 2 million fewer votes than McCain, but Obama got 9 million fewer votes than Obama the first time around. Both bases were depressed, but clearly Obama's was more depressed.

With all the reports of lines, though, I don't get how turnout was 11 million voters less than 2008. Maybe more people are disenchanted.


I'm in ur constituency, sharding ur voters.
 
2012-11-08 07:01:20 PM  

elchip: With all the reports of lines, though, I don't get how turnout was 11 million voters less than 2008.


2008 was NUTS. Everyone farking voted.
 
2012-11-08 07:04:59 PM  
Mail-in voting like we have in Colorado is pretty farkin' great.

No lines, fill out your ballot when and where you want. You don't even have to "mail" it, you can drop it off at an early-voting location or your local election office.
 
2012-11-08 07:05:52 PM  
A little early for the 239th anniversary of the Boston Tea party?
I assume that was the point? Tea party win!
 
2012-11-08 07:06:18 PM  
Send them to San Diego, we could set them off all in one big bang.
 
2012-11-08 07:09:17 PM  

qorkfiend: Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.


Sounds like the Night of the Brown Nosers meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The brown nosing variety of pod people circles a mirror-gazing rich dork.
 
2012-11-08 07:10:37 PM  

brigid_fitch: The ridiculous overconfidence from this moron I can understand. But a fireworks display in MA, where he never had any hope of winning?


That alone says so much, doesn't it? He lost not just his home state and the state where his father was governor, but his running mate's home state as well. The takeaway from that seems to be that those who know them best don't much care for them.
 
2012-11-08 07:18:56 PM  

flux: He lost not just his home state and the state where his father was governor, but his running mate's home state as well.


Also, the other states in which he has homes (California and New Hampshire).
 
2012-11-08 07:22:39 PM  

elchip: With all the reports of lines, though, I don't get how turnout was 11 million voters less than 2008. Maybe more people are disenchanted.


A few things:

1) Sandy affected a good portion of NY/NJ. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but there's a lot of voters that didn't make it to the polls.
2) The places with early voting (FL and OH in particular) had a lot of shenanigans going on over dates and times of early voting.
3) And then there's actual new voter registration. See what Rachel Maddow has to say about that
 
2012-11-08 07:26:23 PM  

qorkfiend: Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.


Now, now: let's not forget that Romney was a giant lying sack of shiat, and everyone knew it. Romney owns a huge part of this loss.
 
2012-11-08 07:26:35 PM  

qorkfiend: Antimatter: I'm loving this. The GOP must have been in a bubble or something. It don't think anyone int he national party of any note thought victory was anything but an absolute certainty.

It would interesting if we could get any numbers on how the differences in how the race was portrayed affected turnout. For the last month, the Democrats have all been "OMG OMG WE'RE GONNA LOSE" despite all of the data that said otherwise, and the GOP has been "Chill the fark out, we got this", again despite all of the data that said otherwise.


Ah, what? The Dems stated the first debate was bad, but was confident as the polls still showed a lead. After debate 2, the enthusiasm returned, and we were hyped.

The GOP, on the other hand, felt they had it in the bag, and refuse to acknowledge the falling mitt poll numbers after the bounce.

We walked into election night earful of only election tampering, but otherwise very confident. The GOP walked into it expecting a Romney landslide, despite no real pools showing any hope for them.
 
2012-11-08 07:28:47 PM  

jules_siegel: qorkfiend: Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.

Sounds like the Night of the Brown Nosers meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The brown nosing variety of pod people circles a mirror-gazing rich dork.


And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.
 
2012-11-08 07:32:04 PM  

Antimatter: qorkfiend: Antimatter: I'm loving this. The GOP must have been in a bubble or something. It don't think anyone int he national party of any note thought victory was anything but an absolute certainty.

It would interesting if we could get any numbers on how the differences in how the race was portrayed affected turnout. For the last month, the Democrats have all been "OMG OMG WE'RE GONNA LOSE" despite all of the data that said otherwise, and the GOP has been "Chill the fark out, we got this", again despite all of the data that said otherwise.

Ah, what? The Dems stated the first debate was bad, but was confident as the polls still showed a lead. After debate 2, the enthusiasm returned, and we were hyped.

The GOP, on the other hand, felt they had it in the bag, and refuse to acknowledge the falling mitt poll numbers after the bounce.

We walked into election night earful of only election tampering, but otherwise very confident. The GOP walked into it expecting a Romney landslide, despite no real pools showing any hope for them.


Well, ok. It wasn't as bad as I made it out to be, but the Democrats had nowhere near the confidence the GOP did, even with all the data on their side.
 
2012-11-08 07:41:44 PM  
ftfa
"But as it turned out, many of those independents were former Republicans who now self-identify as independents. The state polls weren't oversampling Democrats and undersampling Republicans - there just weren't as many Republicans this time because they were calling themselves independents. "

Ouch.
 
Juc
2012-11-08 07:49:59 PM  
This sort of thing is why I'm VERY relieved that Romney didn't win.

If he was lacking people on his team that could analyze things well enough to realize that not preparing for a possible loss would be silly; imagine what it'd have been like as President.

How much information would this guy ignore or misread in whatever decisions he made?
It'd have been a disaster for the USA.
 
2012-11-08 07:50:13 PM  

qorkfiend: Well, ok. It wasn't as bad as I made it out to be, but the Democrats had nowhere near the confidence the GOP did, even with all the data on their side.


"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are so confident while the intelligent are full of doubt."
Bertrand Russell
 
2012-11-08 07:50:33 PM  
Nate Silver says there are still about 10 million votes to be counted. So...turnout wasn't actually down from 2008.
 
2012-11-08 07:52:39 PM  

Lando Lincoln: qorkfiend: Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.

Now, now: let's not forget that Romney was a giant lying sack of shiat, and everyone knew it. Romney owns a huge part of this loss.


Romney's not blameless, no. But it's also not Romney's job to crunch polling data or monitor the media day in and day out - he pays people, and pays them well, to do those things for him. When it starts to come out that the entire campaign was that unaware of the actual electoral situation, and was that shocked by losing, it's a far bigger problem than the man at the top of the ticket. Their entire strategy hinged on Wisconsin, for god's sake, a state Romney had never held any sort of sustained lead in, and did not budge from that strategy despite all data. Their internal pollster counted empty responses as votes for Romney, which is an incredibly stupid idea and should prevent Neil Newhouse from ever getting another job as a pollster, since you can't trust his data. They didn't write a concession speech, when it would have been trivial for some staffer to jot down a few sentences to keep in their pocket.

They made absolutely no preparations for a loss, and there's good evidence they never even considered the possibility. Even if they didn't buy into the right-wing hype, they bought into the dead-heat, horse-race, coin-toss narrative, and still made no preparations for losing.

That is their failure.
 
2012-11-08 07:56:55 PM  
I almost feel kind of bad for him.

/not really.
//Schadenfreude is such an amazing euphoric high.
 
2012-11-08 07:57:02 PM  

Antimatter: We walked into election night earful of only election tampering, but otherwise very confident. The GOP walked into it expecting a Romney landslide, despite no real pools showing any hope for them.


It turns out the Romney campaign was too incompetent to run a voter suppression program too.
 
2012-11-08 08:07:12 PM  
Why not invite the nation's Tea Baggers up to Bunker Hill and set them all off at once?
 
2012-11-08 08:18:58 PM  

qorkfiend: Their entire strategy hinged on Wisconsin


I think part of that is due to their mindset that people voted for Democrats (and especially Obama) for . So, they may have illogically assumed: "Hey, look, we put one of your guys as the #2 guy on our ticket. How can you NOT vote for us now?"
 
2012-11-08 08:19:13 PM  

TheSelphie: Guy must have been farking delusional AND insane to think he was actually going to win. He really is the gift that keeps on giving.


No. He really believed he was going to fulfill the White Horse prophesy. Wait, yes, that does make him delusional and insane.
 
2012-11-08 08:23:50 PM  

schubie: jules_siegel: qorkfiend: Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.

Sounds like the Night of the Brown Nosers meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The brown nosing variety of pod people circles a mirror-gazing rich dork.

And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.


And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.
And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.
 
2012-11-08 08:40:54 PM  
From him not having a concession speech,already having a transition website ready to go and now this it seems Romney really thought he was going to win. This is hilarious. I wonder if he threw a tantrum when he realized he lost?
 
2012-11-08 08:42:30 PM  

Hollie Maea: Nate Silver says there are still about 10 million votes to be counted. So...turnout wasn't actually down from 2008.


What's really funny is you could now say something crazy like "Nate Silver says that the real unemployment figure is 4%" and no one on the right would actually say a peep. Wonder how long that will last.
 
2012-11-08 08:48:34 PM  

Juc: This sort of thing is why I'm VERY relieved that Romney didn't win.

If he was lacking people on his team that could analyze things well enough to realize that not preparing for a possible loss would be silly; imagine what it'd have been like as President.

How much information would this guy ignore or misread in whatever decisions he made?
It'd have been a disaster for the USA.


Exactly! Imagine what it would be like if the President never considered the possibility or consequences of failure!
 
2012-11-08 09:06:58 PM  

mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: Nate Silver says there are still about 10 million votes to be counted. So...turnout wasn't actually down from 2008.

What's really funny is you could now say something crazy like "Nate Silver says that the real unemployment figure is 4%" and no one on the right would actually say a peep. Wonder how long that will last.


The number of eligible voters must be higher due to population growth though, right? So even if the exact same number of people voted, turnout would still technically be down as a proportion of the voting populace (though not by a huge amount, I would guess).
 
2012-11-08 09:09:17 PM  

A Terrible Human: I wonder if he threw a tantrum when he realized he lost?


No need. He had Rove to do it for him.
 
2012-11-08 09:16:54 PM  

Sasquatchuan: mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: Nate Silver says there are still about 10 million votes to be counted. So...turnout wasn't actually down from 2008.

What's really funny is you could now say something crazy like "Nate Silver says that the real unemployment figure is 4%" and no one on the right would actually say a peep. Wonder how long that will last.

The number of eligible voters must be higher due to population growth though, right? So even if the exact same number of people voted, turnout would still technically be down as a proportion of the voting populace (though not by a huge amount, I would guess).


Perhaps. I was making a side comment on how people don't dare question Silver now.
 
2012-11-08 09:18:14 PM  

Lando Lincoln: qorkfiend: Losing this election was a professional failure of colossal magnitude by Romney's campaign staff.

Now, now: let's not forget that Romney was a giant lying sack of shiat, and everyone knew it. Romney owns a huge part of this loss.


Yea, there's that. No need to over analyze this one.
 
2012-11-08 09:21:04 PM  

lilbjorn: A Terrible Human: I wonder if he threw a tantrum when he realized he lost?

No need. He had Rove to do it for him.


Oh I saw that and the schadenfreude was overwhelming.
 
2012-11-08 09:37:05 PM  

A Terrible Human: From him not having a concession speech,already having a transition website ready to go and now this it seems Romney really thought he was going to win. This is hilarious. I wonder if he threw a tantrum when he realized he lost?



This, combined with the fact that Karl Rove was so convinced that he would win Ohio to a point where he threw a tantrum on LIVE TV, leads me to believe that these people were either supernaturally confident in themselves, or they had paid off certain people to fix the election.

The 2nd implication of course seems less likely right now since Obama ultimately won, but I wonder if Rove and Bapp had paid off the voting machine companies to siphon off the votes, but they underestimated how many votes they'd actually need to siphon.
 
2012-11-08 09:38:09 PM  

mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: Nate Silver says there are still about 10 million votes to be counted. So...turnout wasn't actually down from 2008.

What's really funny is you could now say something crazy like "Nate Silver says that the real unemployment figure is 4%" and no one on the right would actually say a peep. Wonder how long that will last.


Approximately 2 to 4 years, roughly the amount of time Silver predicts the Democrats winning something again.
 
2012-11-08 10:07:56 PM  

schubie: And you know who is 100% responsible? CEO in Chief Mittens Romney.


Surely you mean Rich Money. You left out his sidekick, Rancid Prepuce.
 
2012-11-08 10:24:58 PM  

MithrandirBooga: mrshowrules: Hollie Maea: Nate Silver says there are still about 10 million votes to be counted. So...turnout wasn't actually down from 2008.

What's really funny is you could now say something crazy like "Nate Silver says that the real unemployment figure is 4%" and no one on the right would actually say a peep. Wonder how long that will last.

Approximately 2 to 4 years, roughly the amount of time Silver predicts the Democrats winning something again.


This is sad. When a segment of the population's memory becomes shorter than the election cycle, you are going to have serious problems.
 
2012-11-08 11:34:20 PM  
I heard about this today, it kept the schadenfreude bubbling along deliciously for a few more hours. What a maroon.
 
2012-11-08 11:37:30 PM  
I'm just curious -- how much did he -spend- on the fireworks? And did it come out of his campaign fund, or his personal fund?
 
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