Millennium: I'd rather they go before Congress than before the President, but by putting such laws in front of an elected official it's at least a step in the right direction. That's where the lawmaking power needs to be.
GranoblasticMan: I think you answered your own question.
GranoblasticMan: that bosnian sniper: bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?Why would Obama veto it? It's a direct, almost-unprecedented, expansion of Executive power. You want to talk unitary executive, look no further than a bill that would strip Congress of what precious little authority it has left in the way of powers delegated to administrative agencies and place it squarely under the purview of the White House. This is the kind of bill that FDR's hard-on would dig its way out of his grave, hop a train from Hyde Park to DC, barge into the White House, and drill its way through the Resolute desk to snatch the pen right out of Obama's hand and sign itself. In the hands of a Democratic president, that bill could do some real, serious, indelible good compared to the bloated, bureaucratic, captured mess administrative agencies currently are...especially in the wake of the goddamn Chevron decision that still manages to fark citizen oversight and accountability on the part of administrative agencies right in the ass to this day.The problems, naturally, are that a Republican president would take that shiat and run with it to unilaterally create the kind of John Galt douchebaggish regulatory hellscape that caused the 2008 economic meltdown, and it does practically nothing whatsoever to curb regulatory capture which is the problem to begin with.I think you answered your own question.
HairBolus: So, Joe was thinking that Romney would win and wanted to give him a big stick to club those pesky regulators with?
colon_pow: but we want massive regulations, as quick as you can write 'em.
Geotpf: I thought I was the only one who voted against Gore/Lieberman for free speech reasons.
The All-Powerful Atheismo: that bosnian sniper: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Still no answer to this.My post, little bit up-thread.thx
SnakeLee: He did vote for Obamacare, but he was the 60th vote and demanded that they drop the single payer option before he signed it. So basically, he single handedly watered it down and made it considerably less effective than it could have been
qorkfiend: Millennium: I'd rather they go before Congress than before the President, but by putting such laws in front of an elected official it's at least a step in the right direction. That's where the lawmaking power needs to be.You're ok with this law because it gives the President lawmaking power? That is No. 1 on the list of reasons you should be opposed to it.
palladiate: And I still get questioned why I didn't vote for the Gore/Lieberman ticket. With Gore pushing censorship in the 80's and 90's, and Joe being Joe, I had a lot of bad history to consider.Lieberman might be one of the most horrible people in American politics.
exick: Don't blame me, I voted for Nader.
Ennuipoet: At least he's honest, once you buy him he stays bought.
Tyrone Slothrop: palladiate: And I still get questioned why I didn't vote for the Gore/Lieberman ticket. With Gore pushing censorship in the 80's and 90's, and Joe being Joe, I had a lot of bad history to consider.Lieberman might be one of the most horrible people in American politics.Yeah, Gore lost my vote when he picked Lieberman. Of course, I didn't realize that Bush would end up being that bad.
The All-Powerful Atheismo: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Democrats on the committee are supporting it too. WHY are they supporting it too?Still no answer to this.I hate Joe as much as the next guy but there has to be an explanation for this amidst all the hate.
bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?
AngryDragon: [25.media.tumblr.com image 420x512]
bugontherug: Saborlas: He always was a DINOSAUR./Democrat In Name Only, Sorry Ass Undercover RepublicanI'm not too enthusiastic about Lieberman myself. But really, he did vote for both Obamacare and DADT repeal. He's not all bad.
SilentStrider: I vites libertarian in '00. Times like this, I really don't regret it.
Wendy's Chili: SilentStrider: I vites libertarian in '00. Times like this, I really don't regret it.Libertarians would get rid of those regulatory agencies altogether.
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