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(Daily Kos)   Joe Lieberman kicks America in the nuts on his way out of office   (dailykos.com) divider line 84
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2012-11-08 01:25:22 PM
At least he's honest, once you buy him he stays bought.
 
2012-11-08 01:30:12 PM
he sure is a loyal whore
 
2012-11-08 01:32:29 PM
He always was a DINOSAUR.

/Democrat In Name Only, Sorry Ass Undercover Republican
 
2012-11-08 01:47:19 PM
And I still get questioned why I didn't vote for the Gore/Lieberman ticket. With Gore pushing censorship in the 80's and 90's, and Joe being Joe, I had a lot of bad history to consider.

Lieberman might be one of the most horrible people in American politics.
 
2012-11-08 01:57:27 PM
I was going to guess that he was trying to pass the Do What Netayahu Says Act of 2012 which makes Bibi absolute ruler of America.
 
2012-11-08 01:58:38 PM
The headline is not much of an exaggeration. Holy hell, f*ck you, Joe. Don't let the doorknob hit you where the good Lord split you.
 
2012-11-08 02:18:45 PM
Don't blame me, I voted for Nader.
 
2012-11-08 02:37:34 PM
I vites libertarian in '00. Times like this, I really don't regret it.
 
2012-11-08 02:39:39 PM

palladiate: And I still get questioned why I didn't vote for the Gore/Lieberman ticket. With Gore pushing censorship in the 80's and 90's, and Joe being Joe, I had a lot of bad history to consider.

Lieberman might be one of the most horrible people in American politics.


Yep, same here. Though living in California, it was an easy thing for me to vote for Nader--if I had lived in a swing state I'm not sure I would've still done it.
 
2012-11-08 02:51:28 PM
A bitter diatribe would be here but for the man's Obamacare vote.
 
2012-11-08 02:58:31 PM
Sayonara, doucherocket
 
2012-11-08 03:17:36 PM
I'd worry more if I thought anything was getting through the lame duck session.
 
2012-11-08 03:30:08 PM
I think it's Signing Statement time.
 
2012-11-08 03:33:39 PM
I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?
 
2012-11-08 03:34:40 PM

dahmers love zombie: I think it's Signing Statement time.


Maybe even so much as put in the signing statement, "...And Joseph Lieberman, the former senator from Connecticut, can go suck on a bag of dicks until he chokes and dies."
 
2012-11-08 03:34:44 PM
I guess Hadassah isn't making him happy any more.
 
2012-11-08 03:36:15 PM

Saborlas: He always was a DINOSAUR.

/Democrat In Name Only, Sorry Ass Undercover Republican


I'm not too enthusiastic about Lieberman myself. But really, he did vote for both Obamacare and DADT repeal. He's not all bad.
 
2012-11-08 03:36:38 PM
Fark you, Joe LIEberman.
 
2012-11-08 03:37:06 PM

bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?


That is what I assume. Also Levin is up for reelection in 2014. If you're in Michigan, contact his campaign and remind them this state is quite capable of voting in an R if Levin gets a bad case of stupid.
 
2012-11-08 03:37:46 PM

bugontherug: I'm not too enthusiastic about Lieberman myself. But really, he did vote for both Obamacare and DADT repeal. He's not all bad.


Yeah, he voted for the ACA after he made sure public option and single-payer were off the table and that his insurance industry Johns got their cut in the deal. Fark Lieberman with a rusty saw.
 
2012-11-08 03:38:55 PM
Democrats on the committee are supporting it too. WHY are they supporting it too?
 
2012-11-08 03:40:08 PM
but we want massive regulations, as quick as you can write 'em.
 
2012-11-08 03:41:15 PM

SilentStrider: I vites...


To the right, to the right
On every other letter move your finger to the right

(think of a Beyonce song as you read that, let it stick in your head all day)
 
2012-11-08 03:43:07 PM
It won't pass. If it did, Obama would veto it.
 
2012-11-08 03:44:49 PM
Right back at ya Lieberman you f*cker.
 
2012-11-08 03:45:29 PM

EyeballKid: bugontherug: I'm not too enthusiastic about Lieberman myself. But really, he did vote for both Obamacare and DADT repeal. He's not all bad.

Yeah, he voted for the ACA after he made sure public option and single-payer were off the table and that his insurance industry Johns got their cut in the deal. Fark Lieberman with a rusty saw.


I'll grant, I haven't checked the actual voting record. But my memory of 2009-2011 has the Republicans filibustering virtually everything, to a man. If true, that means Lieberman was the 60th vote for almost all of the following legislation:


January 29, 2009: Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-2
February 4, 2009: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act (SCHIP), Pub.L. 111-3
February 17, 2009: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA), Pub.L. 111-5
March 11, 2009: Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, Pub.L. 111-8
March 30, 2009: Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-11
April 21, 2009: Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, Pub.L. 111-13
May 20, 2009: Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-21
May 20, 2009: Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-22
May 22, 2009: Weapon Systems Acquisition Reform Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-23
May 22, 2009: Credit CARD Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-24
June 22, 2009: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, as Division A of Pub.L. 111-31
June 24, 2009: Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2009 including the Car Allowance Rebate System (Cash for Clunkers), Pub.L. 111-32
October 28, 2009: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010, including the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, Pub.L. 111-84
November 6, 2009: Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-92
December 16, 2009: Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2010, Pub.L. 111-117
February 12, 2010: Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act, as Title I of Pub.L. 111-139
March 4, 2010: Travel Promotion Act of 2009, as Section 9 of Pub.L. 111-145
March 18, 2010: Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act, Pub.L. 111-147
March 23, 2010: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Pub.L. 111-148
March 30, 2010: Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, including the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act, Pub.L. 111-152
May 5, 2010: Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-163
July 1, 2010: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-195
July 21, 2010: Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, Pub.L. 111-203
July 29, 2010: Tribal Law and Order Act of 2010
August 3, 2010: Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-220
August 10, 2010: SPEECH Act, Pub.L. 111-223
September 27, 2010: Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-240
December 8, 2010: Claims Resolution Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-291
December 13, 2010: Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-296
December 17, 2010: Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-312, H.R. 4853
December 22, 2010: Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-321, H.R. 2965
January 2, 2011: James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-347, H.R. 847
January 4, 2011: Shark Conservation Act, Pub.L. 111-348, H.R. 81
January 4, 2011: Food Safety and Modernization Act, Pub.L. 111-353, H.R. 2751
 
2012-11-08 03:45:55 PM
Wasn't he the one that made them remove the Public Option before he would vote for ObamaCare?
 
2012-11-08 03:46:23 PM
That's not sane.
 
2012-11-08 03:50:55 PM
He did vote for Obamacare, but he was the 60th vote and demanded that they drop the single payer option before he signed it. So basically, he single handedly watered it down and made it considerably less effective than it could have been
 
2012-11-08 03:52:37 PM

bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?


Why would Obama veto it? It's a direct, almost-unprecedented, expansion of Executive power. You want to talk unitary executive, look no further than a bill that would strip Congress of what precious little authority it has left in the way of powers delegated to administrative agencies and place it squarely under the purview of the White House. This is the kind of bill that FDR's hard-on would dig its way out of his grave, hop a train from Hyde Park to DC, barge into the White House, and drill its way through the Resolute desk to snatch the pen right out of Obama's hand and sign itself. In the hands of a Democratic president, that bill could do some real, serious, indelible good compared to the bloated, bureaucratic, captured mess administrative agencies currently are...especially in the wake of the goddamn Chevron decision that still manages to fark citizen oversight and accountability on the part of administrative agencies right in the ass to this day.

The problems, naturally, are that a Republican president would take that shiat and run with it to unilaterally create the kind of John Galt douchebaggish regulatory hellscape that caused the 2008 economic meltdown, and it does practically nothing whatsoever to curb regulatory capture which is the problem to begin with.
 
2012-11-08 03:54:05 PM

Granny_Panties: Wasn't he the one that made them remove the Public Option before he would vote for ObamaCare?


Worse. He made them remove the 'Medicare buy-in' option that was a weak-sauce substitute for the public option.

This when 'Medicare Buy-in' was supposed to be one of his signature political ideas that he campaigned with.

Total and utter betrayal.

/He was for it before he was against it. He was for it until the 11th hour.
 
2012-11-08 03:54:07 PM
so where does he land? AIPAC or a Def contractor lobbyist?
 
2012-11-08 03:54:15 PM
 
2012-11-08 03:59:47 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Democrats on the committee are supporting it too. WHY are they supporting it too?


Still no answer to this.

I hate Joe as much as the next guy but there has to be an explanation for this amidst all the hate.
 
2012-11-08 04:01:52 PM
"Joe Lieberman's good by gift to America."

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2012-11-08 04:01:59 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Still no answer to this.


My post, little bit up-thread.
 
2012-11-08 04:03:02 PM
Hey Joe, time for dinner!

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-08 04:03:16 PM
Whatever its title, the intent of this legislation is crystal clear if you know how to read between the lines. This law is a dagger aimed at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that Dodd-Frank created. Romney's loss and Elizabeth Warren's win effectively killed Wall's Street's hopes of dismantling it and/or neutering it by replacing the director with a four member half Dem Half Republican commission

Now, as the agency prepares a slew of new regulations mandating things like more detailed and clearer loan disclosures when you buy a house, requiring banks prove you have a reasonable ability to re-pay the credit limits they set on your credit cards, limiting fees for money transfers and remittances, etc etc their only hope is to gum up the works as long as possible. I have no doubt Joey was promised of BOD seat or four as a retirement present in exchange for this legislation
 
2012-11-08 04:03:53 PM

that bosnian sniper: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Still no answer to this.

My post, little bit up-thread.


thx
 
2012-11-08 04:10:17 PM

palladiate: And I still get questioned why I didn't vote for the Gore/Lieberman ticket. With Gore pushing censorship in the 80's and 90's, and Joe being Joe, I had a lot of bad history to consider.

Lieberman might be one of the most horrible people in American politics.


I thought I was the only one who voted against Gore/Lieberman for free speech reasons. Of course, I live in California so my vote doesn't actually count. Had I lived in Florida, I probably would have worn an industrial sized clothespin on my nose and voted for them anyways, but I'm not actually sure.

/no, I didn't vote for Bush, I voted for the Libertarian
//I think his name was Browne
 
2012-11-08 04:11:18 PM

that bosnian sniper: bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?

Why would Obama veto it? It's a direct, almost-unprecedented, expansion of Executive power. You want to talk unitary executive, look no further than a bill that would strip Congress of what precious little authority it has left in the way of powers delegated to administrative agencies and place it squarely under the purview of the White House. This is the kind of bill that FDR's hard-on would dig its way out of his grave, hop a train from Hyde Park to DC, barge into the White House, and drill its way through the Resolute desk to snatch the pen right out of Obama's hand and sign itself. In the hands of a Democratic president, that bill could do some real, serious, indelible good compared to the bloated, bureaucratic, captured mess administrative agencies currently are...especially in the wake of the goddamn Chevron decision that still manages to fark citizen oversight and accountability on the part of administrative agencies right in the ass to this day.

The problems, naturally, are that a Republican president would take that shiat and run with it to unilaterally create the kind of John Galt douchebaggish regulatory hellscape that caused the 2008 economic meltdown, and it does practically nothing whatsoever to curb regulatory capture which is the problem to begin with.


I'd find it cute that you make such a distinction between Dems and Republicans, Good vs. Evil, Right vs. Wrong... if I didn't remind myself that they are all politicians first, and march to the beat of their own drummer.

Keep in mind that before Lieberman was an independent, he was a Dem... and nearly a heartbeat away from being president when he was.

Just food for thought
 
2012-11-08 04:11:47 PM

bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?


The bill appears to give the President more power. Why on earth would Obama (or any other President) veto it?
 
2012-11-08 04:11:54 PM
I don't like independent agencies on a constitutional level.
 
2012-11-08 04:15:01 PM

that bosnian sniper: bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?

Why would Obama veto it? It's a direct, almost-unprecedented, expansion of Executive power. You want to talk unitary executive, look no further than a bill that would strip Congress of what precious little authority it has left in the way of powers delegated to administrative agencies and place it squarely under the purview of the White House. This is the kind of bill that FDR's hard-on would dig its way out of his grave, hop a train from Hyde Park to DC, barge into the White House, and drill its way through the Resolute desk to snatch the pen right out of Obama's hand and sign itself. In the hands of a Democratic president, that bill could do some real, serious, indelible good compared to the bloated, bureaucratic, captured mess administrative agencies currently are...especially in the wake of the goddamn Chevron decision that still manages to fark citizen oversight and accountability on the part of administrative agencies right in the ass to this day.

The problems, naturally, are that a Republican president would take that shiat and run with it to unilaterally create the kind of John Galt douchebaggish regulatory hellscape that caused the 2008 economic meltdown, and it does practically nothing whatsoever to curb regulatory capture which is the problem to begin with.


I think you answered your own question.
 
2012-11-08 04:16:32 PM

Geotpf: bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?

The bill appears to give the President more power. Why on earth would Obama (or any other President) veto it?


Foresight?
 
2012-11-08 04:16:56 PM
Accountability for regulations rather than fobbing off the unpopular nastiness to unelected entities to wreak havoc as they will? The horror.

What's wrong with, "I'm President Nimrod and I approve this regulation"? It's good enough for campaign commercials. 

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-08 04:18:08 PM
Joe, just go choke on a bag of dicks you flaming POS. I wonder which farking bank or corporation has already hired you as a lobbyist?

Still pissed off about this B.S. he pulled, earlier this year: Link
 
2012-11-08 04:30:40 PM
I'd rather they go before Congress than before the President, but by putting such laws in front of an elected official it's at least a step in the right direction. That's where the lawmaking power needs to be.
 
2012-11-08 04:35:18 PM

jjorsett: Accountability for regulations rather than fobbing off the unpopular nastiness to unelected entities to wreak havoc as they will? The horror.

What's wrong with, "I'm President Nimrod and I approve this regulation"? It's good enough for campaign commercials. 

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How do you imagine this bill would inject any sort of accountability?
 
2012-11-08 04:36:18 PM

Millennium: I'd rather they go before Congress than before the President, but by putting such laws in front of an elected official it's at least a step in the right direction. That's where the lawmaking power needs to be.


I dunno. I think I'd prefer Dubya calling the shots over the current crop of teatards in the House.
 
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