palladiate: And I still get questioned why I didn't vote for the Gore/Lieberman ticket. With Gore pushing censorship in the 80's and 90's, and Joe being Joe, I had a lot of bad history to consider.Lieberman might be one of the most horrible people in American politics.
dahmers love zombie: I think it's Signing Statement time.
Saborlas: He always was a DINOSAUR./Democrat In Name Only, Sorry Ass Undercover Republican
bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?
bugontherug: I'm not too enthusiastic about Lieberman myself. But really, he did vote for both Obamacare and DADT repeal. He's not all bad.
SilentStrider: I vites...
EyeballKid: bugontherug: I'm not too enthusiastic about Lieberman myself. But really, he did vote for both Obamacare and DADT repeal. He's not all bad.Yeah, he voted for the ACA after he made sure public option and single-payer were off the table and that his insurance industry Johns got their cut in the deal. Fark Lieberman with a rusty saw.
Granny_Panties: Wasn't he the one that made them remove the Public Option before he would vote for ObamaCare?
The All-Powerful Atheismo: Democrats on the committee are supporting it too. WHY are they supporting it too?
The All-Powerful Atheismo: Still no answer to this.
that bosnian sniper: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Still no answer to this.My post, little bit up-thread.
that bosnian sniper: bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?Why would Obama veto it? It's a direct, almost-unprecedented, expansion of Executive power. You want to talk unitary executive, look no further than a bill that would strip Congress of what precious little authority it has left in the way of powers delegated to administrative agencies and place it squarely under the purview of the White House. This is the kind of bill that FDR's hard-on would dig its way out of his grave, hop a train from Hyde Park to DC, barge into the White House, and drill its way through the Resolute desk to snatch the pen right out of Obama's hand and sign itself. In the hands of a Democratic president, that bill could do some real, serious, indelible good compared to the bloated, bureaucratic, captured mess administrative agencies currently are...especially in the wake of the goddamn Chevron decision that still manages to fark citizen oversight and accountability on the part of administrative agencies right in the ass to this day.The problems, naturally, are that a Republican president would take that shiat and run with it to unilaterally create the kind of John Galt douchebaggish regulatory hellscape that caused the 2008 economic meltdown, and it does practically nothing whatsoever to curb regulatory capture which is the problem to begin with.
Geotpf: bdub77: I don't know enough about the bill, but couldn't Obama just be like 'fark you, veto'?The bill appears to give the President more power. Why on earth would Obama (or any other President) veto it?
jjorsett: Accountability for regulations rather than fobbing off the unpopular nastiness to unelected entities to wreak havoc as they will? The horror.What's wrong with, "I'm President Nimrod and I approve this regulation"? It's good enough for campaign commercials. [i45.tinypic.com image 375x375]
Millennium: I'd rather they go before Congress than before the President, but by putting such laws in front of an elected official it's at least a step in the right direction. That's where the lawmaking power needs to be.
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