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(Boston Herald)   Public housing boss expected elderly residents "would accustom themselves to lower, energy-saving thermostat settings"   (bostonherald.com) divider line 85
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2012-11-08 01:44:11 PM

liam76: Ice pack on the thermostat.


Even a damp hand towel will work, evaporative cooling
 
2012-11-08 01:45:16 PM

The One True TheDavid: I don't set the thermostat higher than 65, and it's often lower than that. Usually I'll put another blanket in the bed and turn the furnace off at night. But then I'm paying my own bills on a small fixed income and don't have to sit around naked in the middle of winter.

Bundle up like they did before 1900. It's much cheaper so there's more left for booze. By the way, Black Grouse isn't very much like a "regular" blended Scotch and might throw you at first but then it's easy to like a lot. Not bad for $25 a fifth. Now excuse me while I get my jacket.


THIS! My thermostat goes to 62 at 6AM until 9PM, then it goes to 65 from 9PM to 6AM. I'm not home during the day, so I'm not heating the house, and I can put an extra layer of cloths on at night if I'm cold.

I can't believe these idiotic old people are complaining about 74 being too cold...
 
2012-11-08 01:45:19 PM

Sultan Of Herf: shes too stupid to turn it up before opening the door.


And you were stupid enough to let her live with you?
 
2012-11-08 01:46:11 PM
in the old days older folks were moved closer and closer to the fire each year. When they got to old to do any productive work or tell amusing stories they were called logs. That saved the entire family on cremation or burial in the winter when the ground was too cold and firewood was to valuable to waste.
 
2012-11-08 02:01:15 PM

newtekie1: I can't believe these idiotic old people are complaining about 74 being too cold...


Old people often have circulatory problems; one of the ways the body keeps all it's parts at the proper temperature. Without that boost, they can have trouble keeping their hands and feet sufficiently warm. A slowing metabolism doesn't help.

Especially if you add in arthritis pain that's exasperated by chillier temperatures, it can be cheaper to simply turn the heat up than to try to treat them in other ways.
 
2012-11-08 02:08:17 PM
The test: If the surface of your kitchen table feels cool to the touch then your house is too cold.
 
2012-11-08 02:18:05 PM
I picture them all like this 
www.pulpinternational.com
 
2012-11-08 02:18:26 PM

Koodz: When I moved to Japan I had a typical poorly insulated apartment so I cranked the heater up all night and paid what it cost. After that first winter I was talking with Japanese coworkers who were horrified that I left the heater on at night. I told them I got colds in the winter but who doesn't?

Next winter I left the heater off. I felt astoundingly better every morning all winter long.

Too much climate control in America


Same with AC.
 
2012-11-08 02:21:22 PM
The only time old people are satisfied with room temperature is when they assume it
 
2012-11-08 02:24:30 PM
That guy sounds like my grandpa. If he was cold, he'd put on a sweater. If he was still cold, he'd put on a jacket. If he was still cold, he'd put on a parka. I imagine the next step would be to crawl inside a ton ton. Child of the depression and such.
 
2012-11-08 02:33:52 PM

liam76: Koodz: When I moved to Japan I had a typical poorly insulated apartment so I cranked the heater up all night and paid what it cost. After that first winter I was talking with Japanese coworkers who were horrified that I left the heater on at night. I told them I got colds in the winter but who doesn't?

Next winter I left the heater off. I felt astoundingly better every morning all winter long.

Too much climate control in America

Same with AC.


Yep. I'm not going to bring up anything being "unnatural" or anything like that but it appears to be stressful on the body to be unnaturally hot in the winter and unnaturally food in the summer.

/not old
 
2012-11-08 02:39:21 PM
My house a couple nights ago . . . Difficulty: Seattle.
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/having a super insulated house + supplementary fireplace/stove = house sized sauna
//gets the ladies to take most everything off
 
2012-11-08 02:40:49 PM

Koodz: Yep. I'm not going to bring up anything being "unnatural" or anything like that but it appears to be stressful on the body to be unnaturally hot in the winter and unnaturally food in the summer.


I don't know if it is so much stressful as it is harder for the body to acclimate.
 
2012-11-08 02:47:21 PM

Koodz: Yep. I'm not going to bring up anything being "unnatural" or anything like that but it appears to be stressful on the body to be unnaturally hot in the winter and unnaturally food in the summer.


I would imagine it is stressful on the body to be food any time.
 
2012-11-08 02:48:05 PM
Old people smell funny and biatch a lot
 
2012-11-08 02:48:52 PM

umad: Contents Under Pressure: So, if you want your girlfriend to walk around half naked, get new windows and have the insulation checked at the house...or go out with someone who has a nice seal-like layer of blubber.

We don't want our girlfriend to walk around naked. We want to not be sweating our balls off in our own house. You can always wear more clothes if you are cold. There isn't shiat you can do about being too hot. That said, we get it. It is our job to suffer to make your life more comfortable.


I own the house. So, in your imaginary scenario, tough titty.

Besides, if you are sweating your balls off when it's 72 degrees, you may want to address your own personal insulation issues.
 
2012-11-08 02:50:40 PM

umad: Koodz: Yep. I'm not going to bring up anything being "unnatural" or anything like that but it appears to be stressful on the body to be unnaturally hot in the winter and unnaturally food in the summer.

I would imagine it is stressful on the body to be food any time.


God damn my phone.
 
2012-11-08 02:54:39 PM

Contents Under Pressure: umad: Contents Under Pressure: So, if you want your girlfriend to walk around half naked, get new windows and have the insulation checked at the house...or go out with someone who has a nice seal-like layer of blubber.

We don't want our girlfriend to walk around naked. We want to not be sweating our balls off in our own house. You can always wear more clothes if you are cold. There isn't shiat you can do about being too hot. That said, we get it. It is our job to suffer to make your life more comfortable.

I own the house. So, in your imaginary scenario, tough titty.

Besides, if you are sweating your balls off when it's 72 degrees, you may want to address your own personal insulation issues.


And I own my own home, so equally tough titty to my GF. Perhaps LITERALLY tough titty. It is also, and this is just my own opinion, far more comfortable to throw on an extra layer than sit there with the furnace drying everything out and making everyone in the house sick more often. So ya, cooler is cheaper and better. 72 degree thermostat unless you have awesome climate control is never going to be a constant 72 in my experience. Not with a furnace anyways, I have baseboard heating now, and its delightful. So delightful that if I had a gf concerned with temperature I might just let it be hot and walk around naked myself. If it is 75 or above, somebody oughta be naked.

also, umad: speak for yourself. I would be pleased as punch if my gf had picked that option.
 
2012-11-08 02:54:59 PM
The best part of this thread is knowing all you people complaining about old people will one day be OLD.
 
2012-11-08 02:58:42 PM

maxgatorfan: The best part of this thread is knowing all you people complaining about old people will one day be OLD.


Yes, but I'll be an old male, and I have the money to move to florida. Also baseboard heating :D
 
2012-11-08 03:08:59 PM

Smackledorfer: maxgatorfan: The best part of this thread is knowing all you people complaining about old people will one day be OLD.

Yes, but I'll be an old male, and I have the money to move to florida. Also baseboard heating :D


Sure you don't want to live in a Housing Authority dwelling in East Boston? It's kind of like Detroit. Except people still live there.
 
2012-11-08 03:18:03 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Make sure you come back to the link and read the Herald commenters. Those working class Herald readers (white, racist, not working, collecting unemployment and spending it on cigarettes and TV's and fellating Howie Carr) will be sure to tell us that the thermostat should be set to whatever a hard working white man's tax dollars say it should be set to.


I can't argue with that. I'll bet these taker's don't even pay taxes.

/Farking 47%ers
 
2012-11-08 03:23:42 PM

Firethorn: Koodz: Too much climate control in America

I find I sleep much better when I drop the thermostat to below 60 about 2 hours before bedtime. Need to get automatic electronic thermostats to replace the mercury switch ones my new house has, but the form factor is wierd and the first set I bought don't fit, haven't found a suitable set yet.

When I do, I'll be woken up by the warming house, put to bed by the cooling. It just works for me.


Makes sense. I was flipping through a book about sleep last night and read that your body temperature lowers while you are sleeping. It said that doing something to lower your body temperature can help you sleep better.
 
2012-11-08 03:23:59 PM
It's 62F in this basement.

Thats where it stays.

/Not moms basement.
 
2012-11-08 03:27:59 PM

The One True TheDavid: I don't set the thermostat higher than 65, and it's often lower than that. Usually I'll put another blanket in the bed and turn the furnace off at night. But then I'm paying my own bills on a small fixed income and don't have to sit around naked in the middle of winter.

Bundle up like they did before 1900. It's much cheaper so there's more left for booze. By the way, Black Grouse isn't very much like a "regular" blended Scotch and might throw you at first but then it's easy to like a lot. Not bad for $25 a fifth. Now excuse me while I get my jacket.


That's not recommended for the elderly. Their bodies don't regulate their temperature as well.
 
2012-11-08 03:30:28 PM

cgraves67: What about women in general? I don't know a single woman who will accustom herself to lower, energy-saving thermostat settings in the winter.


You should expand your circle of women you know then. Unless they are twigs or elderly, I know of very few women who fit your description. Perhaps all you know are spoiled princesses?

Stop painting with such a wide brush.

/heat never above 65
//that's what flannels are for
 
2012-11-08 03:36:11 PM
I've actually trained my wife so well that when our house hits 66 she complains that it's too warm.
 
2012-11-08 04:16:13 PM
I grew up with the heat at 62 degrees in winter and no A/C in summer.

I swear since I have been working I have been getting sicker because of extreme temp changes.

This summer was the worst because it was very hot and humid for Toronto, the office kept the AC at full blast so it felt like a punch in the gut to go outside. I couldn't adapt to the temperature change so I kept my house AC'd, though not as much. farking ridiculous, it's supposed to take the edge off the heat, but turn the place into Ice Station Zebra.

Luckily this winter I've kept it at 62 degrees so far, the trick is to wear a sweater, wear warm slippers without making your feet sweat too much, and drink tea, warms you up from the inside.

Who decided that the "ideal temperature" should be 75? The oil industry? Ridiculous.
 
2012-11-08 04:49:40 PM

maxgatorfan: The best part of this thread is knowing all you people complaining about old people will one day be OLD.


That ain't necessarily so.

I've shouted to lawn-treaders "I've lived longer than you might!"
 
2012-11-08 05:14:28 PM
My old man likes to fire up the wood-burning stove and stoke it like a steam locomotive pulling 1,000 freight cars. I've seen the thermostat in the house read 89 when it's 20 outside.

/no nudity, thankfully
 
2012-11-08 05:18:36 PM

cgraves67: What about women in general? I don't know a single woman who will accustom herself to lower, energy-saving thermostat settings in the winter.


i will - and I've been called an old woman and a little biatch on more than one occasion.
 
2012-11-08 05:22:14 PM

KrispyKritter: The Angry Hand of God: 74 degrees is way too hot if you ask me.

If this is true, "State code bans landlords from heating apartments higher than 78 degrees, he said. The minimum is 68 degrees and 163 tests showed the complex met that code, he said." I don't see what the problem is.

my guess is you're not a really old person with poor blood circulation that is cold most all the time.

empathy: Empathy is the capacity to recognize feelings that are being experienced by another sentient or semi-sentient (in fiction writing) being. Someone may need to have a certain amount of empathy before they are able to feel compassion. The English word was coined in 1909 by Edward B. Titchener as an attempt to translate the German word "Einfühlungsvermögen", a new phenomenon explored at the end of 19th century mainly by Theodor Lipps. It was later re-translated into the German language (Germanized) as "Empathie", and is still in use there. (wikipedia)


My grandma is 87 and has up until recently been someone who has suffered badly in the heat and humidity of summer in Sydney. This year though she is cold on even the hottest days. I have felt her hands when she says she is cold and they are like ice.

I wonder, if the air conditioning the article mentions they have is reverse cycle. If so they can use that for heating.
 
2012-11-08 05:30:09 PM
When I first moved into my house I had shiatty windows and the heat and AC was 30+ years old so it didnt work to well. That first winter I just wore slippers and socks and piled on the extra blankets. Only thing that sucked in the summer was the windows sucked so bad I couldnt open them but by the end of the summer I had new windows and heat/AC. My roomate, princess that she is, would complain unending about how hot/cold it was. I told her she was more than welcome to pay the heating bills. After I showed her a few months of them she covered up more.
 
2012-11-09 12:48:30 AM
As a woman, I'd like to throw in my 2 cents on this thermostat discussion.

I live in Texas. I keep mine set to 77-80 in the Summer. Anything lower than that is too cold for me. I sleep mostly nude with a thin blanket. In Winter, I keep it near 70, 68ish if it's below freezing outside and I bundle up. I have a nice winter sock collection and fleece PJs to accomodate this, and a heavy down comforter and flannel sheets, to boot.

I glean from the responses I'm somewhat of an anomaly in this.

I can't STAND people who keep their homes cooler than 75 in the summer. If I farking shivver in your home in the middle of farking July IT'S TOO DAMN COLD. Turn it up and turn on a fan or two and enjoy the energy savings you dolts!
 
2012-11-09 10:51:27 AM

Tyrion's Favorite Wench: I sleep mostly nude with a thin blanket.


As is customary here...how YOU doin'?
 
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