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(The Atlantic Wire)   Ahh the grand traditions of American Presidential democracy: the gracious concession speech by the loser, the unity speech by the victor, the back-stabbing, ass-covering post-mortems by the losing campaign's staffers..,   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 20
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2012-11-08 03:00:48 PM  
4 votes:
It'll never happen but the obvious choice to play Mittens is...

3.bp.blogspot.com

Mr. Bruce Campbell.
2012-11-08 01:42:43 PM  
3 votes:
Was...

..Our candidate is a potentially-sociopathic, pathologically-lying, out-of-touch plutocrat and career politician who was only nominated as a compromise between the handful of moderates left in the party grasping for anyone who wouldn't send the undecided/moderate 8% screaming for Obama, and the ethically abhorrent, certifiably insane, religious fanatic assholes that make up the base of our party?

...Our party is being poisoned from within by its base, which are ethically abhorrent, certifiably insane, religious fanatic assholes who serve approximately one purpose, and that is to handily deliver the moderates and undecideds into our opposition's camp each and every election, and to serve as a liberal get-out-the-vote drive by merit of its very existence?

...Our party's ethically abhorrent, certifiably insane, religiously fanatic platform celebtrates nativism and white/male/wealthy privilege, and openly pines for a day in which anyone but rich white men were second-class citizens, and anyone else were actively denied civil rights and liberties as a matter of self-perpetuation?

...And not even our methods and strategies are working out for us any more, and even backfiring. Transposed onto a national platform, the Southern strategy has demonstrated to be naught but a patronizing system of oppression in its own right that is driving turnout against the Republican party, as is vote suppression and disenfranchisement efforts pitching anger and driving turnout.

...on the list? I'm not holding my breath.
2012-11-08 12:06:39 PM  
3 votes:
I love that the first theory is "We should have talked more about Benghazi and Obamacare then we would have won"

Keep pushing your failed ideology scum suckers - the world has left you behind
2012-11-08 02:38:13 PM  
2 votes:
Their MESSAGE was undermined by people understanding their INTENTIONS.
2012-11-08 02:24:53 PM  
2 votes:

thornhill: I have no doubt that the GOP solution will be to put a Latino on the ticket in 2016.


"Hey, let's put a woman on the ticket. That will prove that we like women!"

"Hey, let's put a latino on the ticket. That will prove that we like latinos!"

Another friendly suggestion: Good policy stances towards women / latinos are a hell of a lot more meaningful than finding token figures that will overlook your horrible stances towards women / latinos.
2012-11-08 01:40:55 PM  
2 votes:
I'd like to reserve at least a small portion of the blame for "didn't show the tax returns."
2012-11-08 03:05:43 PM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: I heard a guy call in to an NPR show last night about the election. He said something like 'what can we do to get those people into the Republican Party? It's not like our message of small government works with them. '

That's your problem right there. First off, maybe stop thinking about them as "those people." And the underlying sentiment in how you phrased it recalls Mitt's "47%" comment. You STILL think 'those people' just want more government handouts.


I'f you've spent the last 20 years throwing people out of your tent, don't act surprised when you're the only one left. I'm a republican and I'm fairly ashamed at how they've behaved lately
2012-11-08 02:39:16 PM  
1 votes:
It was the Republican's election to lose, and lose it they did. Obama should have been an easy mark considering the state of the economy, and they managed to turn a slam-dunk into a brutal beating. Had they stuck to issues like the economy, healthcare, the budget, etc., Mitt would probably be the president in a few months. They just... couldn't... HELP themselves though. They had to blurt out stupidity about rape, birth control, minorities, etc. It was a goddamn cavalcade of gaffes about issues that Republicans, by and large, do have popular views on. All they really needed to do to win was to give us a few solid candidates - people who were strong on economic issues without focusing so hard on social issues. Had they given us that, it would have been a clean sweep for the R's. Instead we got a Mormon plutocrat and Rapin' Todd Akin. If the Republicans want to know who to blame, they need to look in the mirror. Don't blame Sandy, the "liberal media", voter fraud, etc. They had this in the bag, and they blew it. Plain and simple.
2012-11-08 02:18:30 PM  
1 votes:
The bottom line is that the GOP thinks that Americans are a hell of a lot dumber than they actually are.
2012-11-08 02:17:25 PM  
1 votes:
It would seem the republican party as a whole doesn't honestly think they need to change any of their views. I keep seeing them on the news saying, "Our views aren't the problem, conservative values are something everyone can get behind, we just didn't get the message out well enough." I want to be outraged by their stupidity, but if they keep it up they'll probably lose elections at ever increasing frequencies. So I guess I'm fine with it.
2012-11-08 02:16:53 PM  
1 votes:
According to the National Review's source, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie "went out of his way to embrace the president during the final week of the campaign... It wasn't necessary and it hurt us.

Fark you, you self absorbed asshole. It wasn't supposed to be political, a major storm hit, and FEMA responded far faster and more effectively then under the last President. Said president was also in the storm ravaged areas immediately, which wasn't true for his predecessor. Thanking the nation's leader for acting like leader is COMPLETELY fine, and only assholes like this "unnamed source" are too stuck on themselves to realize this.
2012-11-08 02:02:26 PM  
1 votes:
...but we really should have been talking more about Benghazi and Obamacare

Maybe the campaign lost because of these idiot advisors.

1. There was no scandal with Benghazi, and the Romney eventually got schooled on national TV during a debate trying to make it one.

2. All the polling showed that the only voters who really hated Obamacare were the GOP base. While nobody was enthusiastic about it, the hatred the GOP thought was there didn't exist outside of the echo-chamber.

As the exit polling showed, voters thought Romney would do a better job with the economy, but ultimately didn't trust him because he was viewed as an out of touch plutocrat.
2012-11-08 01:57:56 PM  
1 votes:
The world is changing and if you are hesitant to change you get left behind. The GOP shouldn't focus on outdated social issues. And they should put more stock into reality rather than paranoid theories and what they want reality to be. Tempter tantrums, threats, and wanting America to fail if you don't get your way also does not go over well with most people.
2012-11-08 01:55:57 PM  
1 votes:
Must be tough being a professional victim.
2012-11-08 01:52:37 PM  
1 votes:
The Republican Party has won the popular vote in one of the last six Presidential elections.

The problem is not with minor tactical decisions by the campaign. The problem is with their message and brand.
2012-11-08 01:42:20 PM  
1 votes:

Insatiable Jesus: YoungSwedishBlonde: Is Benghazi a scandal yet?

It was, for about four minutes.


As long as they think they can use it to smear a Democratic president, they'll believe it's a scandal.
2012-11-08 01:40:46 PM  
1 votes:
As long as it continues to be a peaceful transition/retention of power, everything else is trivial.
2012-11-08 01:40:19 PM  
1 votes:

Therion: but we really should have been talking more about Benghazi and Obamacare

but we really should have been talking more about Benghazi and Obamacare

but we really should have been talking more about Benghazi and Obamacare 


I don't think it was possible for Fox News to talk anymore about Benghazi. They did their part.
2012-11-08 12:21:03 PM  
1 votes:
Jesus, those folks really don't get it.

Not addressing bengazhi wasn't the problem.

You didn't address the important issues to minorities and women. Worse, you took positions that those demographics OVERWHELMINGLY disapprove of on a whole array of issues.

It's as if these professional political operatives can't even read the exit poll results.
2012-11-08 12:17:04 PM  
1 votes:

Tigger: I love that the first theory is "We should have talked more about Benghazi and Obamacare then we would have won"

Keep pushing your failed ideology scum suckers - the world has left you behind


There was a tactic Romney could have done that would have won him the election. He could have linked Obama to Bush's policies and he should have put more distance between his policies and Bush's.
 
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