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2012-11-08 01:01:12 PM
Except for the part where, you know, it doesn't require an internet connection to work properly.

/dumbasses
 
2012-11-08 01:09:02 PM

dethmagnetic: Except for the part where, you know, it doesn't require an internet connection to work properly.

/dumbasses


Done in one.

FTFA:

"The first time a player starts up Synapse 2.0, he/she is asked to create an account. Once registered, Synapse 2.0 works offline and never needs to be online again, provided users check the "stay logged in" box. Synapse 2.0 then works regardless of internet connection, as settings are saved on the client PC and are not synced to the cloud."
 
2012-11-08 01:40:49 PM

Beerguy: dethmagnetic: Except for the part where, you know, it doesn't require an internet connection to work properly.

/dumbasses

Done in one.

FTFA:

"The first time a player starts up Synapse 2.0, he/she is asked to create an account. Once registered, Synapse 2.0 works offline and never needs to be online again, provided users check the "stay logged in" box. Synapse 2.0 then works regardless of internet connection, as settings are saved on the client PC and are not synced to the cloud."


But gods forbid you plug it into a new computer without internet access. It's still crippled hardware until it calls home and gets authorization to replace it's Only Allowed To Run On computer with a new one.
 
2012-11-08 02:20:01 PM

Saborlas: Beerguy: dethmagnetic: Except for the part where, you know, it doesn't require an internet connection to work properly.

/dumbasses

Done in one.

FTFA:

"The first time a player starts up Synapse 2.0, he/she is asked to create an account. Once registered, Synapse 2.0 works offline and never needs to be online again, provided users check the "stay logged in" box. Synapse 2.0 then works regardless of internet connection, as settings are saved on the client PC and are not synced to the cloud."

But gods forbid you plug it into a new computer without internet access. It's still crippled hardware until it calls home and gets authorization to replace it's Only Allowed To Run On computer with a new one.


Good point.
 
2012-11-08 02:35:56 PM
That's just strange. A one computer mouse?
On the other-hand, I was surprised my latest trackball uses a 2.4 ghz wireless link.
 
2012-11-08 03:01:51 PM
easiest way to spy on a computer without being detected is through the mouse... so I heard... on the internet...
 
2012-11-08 03:02:19 PM
Is THAT why my mouse wouldn't work right the end of last week but suddenly started doing so a few a few days ago?

I'm addicted to the Naga mouse for playing MMO games but that is really terrible to hear.
 
2012-11-08 03:03:57 PM
Dongle mouse.
 
2012-11-08 03:07:06 PM
That's pretty farkin' stupid.
 
2012-11-08 03:12:12 PM

simplicimus: That's just strange. A one computer mouse?


Actually, it sounds like that might be the exact opposite case. Sounds like they put your configuration and profile online so if you were to take it to a different computer (or have to reinstall the software/OS) you wouldn't have to redo your settings. Not a bad idea if you have a particularly complicated set up. Then again, it's stupid that you can't manually configure it if you were to take it to a new computer without an internet connection. Makes more sense to allow you to set it up locally and then have to option to sync the settings to the cloud afterwards.
 
2012-11-08 03:12:13 PM

saintstryfe: Is THAT why my mouse wouldn't work right the end of last week but suddenly started doing so a few a few days ago?

I'm addicted to the Naga mouse for playing MMO games but that is really terrible to hear.


NAGA, PLEASE!
 
2012-11-08 03:20:58 PM

ForgotMyTowel: Actually, it sounds like that might be the exact opposite case. Sounds like they put your configuration and profile online so if you were to take it to a different computer (or have to reinstall the software/OS) you wouldn't have to redo your settings. Not a bad idea if you have a particularly complicated set up.


Why not just have a chip in the damn mouse that saves those settings?
 
2012-11-08 03:21:21 PM
until they have uv light scanners i am not concerned
 
2012-11-08 03:23:21 PM
I just bought a sonos speaker to amplify my tv output, and a 'bridge' to make it work. No controls on the device internet volume control only? I can't wait for the time it thinks it is supposed to be on max volume and I don't have my pc booted up.

/getting a kick. . .
 
2012-11-08 03:29:52 PM

Arkanaut: ForgotMyTowel: Actually, it sounds like that might be the exact opposite case. Sounds like they put your configuration and profile online so if you were to take it to a different computer (or have to reinstall the software/OS) you wouldn't have to redo your settings. Not a bad idea if you have a particularly complicated set up.

Why not just have a chip in the damn mouse that saves those settings?


Not as cool as advertising a product that "Syncs with the cloud". Plus that wouldn't require you to send them an email and contact info that they can use to send you advertisements and possibly sell to other companies.
 
2012-11-08 03:31:55 PM

Arkanaut: ForgotMyTowel: Actually, it sounds like that might be the exact opposite case. Sounds like they put your configuration and profile online so if you were to take it to a different computer (or have to reinstall the software/OS) you wouldn't have to redo your settings. Not a bad idea if you have a particularly complicated set up.

Why not just have a chip in the damn mouse that saves those settings?


They want to collect users' settings to see what's most popular, for future product development.
 
2012-11-08 03:33:34 PM

Arkanaut: ForgotMyTowel: Actually, it sounds like that might be the exact opposite case. Sounds like they put your configuration and profile online so if you were to take it to a different computer (or have to reinstall the software/OS) you wouldn't have to redo your settings. Not a bad idea if you have a particularly complicated set up.

Why not just have a chip in the damn mouse that saves those settings?


It's easier (and cheaper) to have a contract for a hosting service than add more hardware to every mouse produced. Not sure why either is necessary but some might be very particular about their settings.
 
2012-11-08 03:35:09 PM
Article headline: "A Mouse Shouldn't Need an Internet Connection to Work Properly (Updated, It Doesn't)"

Pfff.. Journalism? Who needs that. We're Gizmodo!
 
kab
2012-11-08 03:36:26 PM

Saborlas: But gods forbid you plug it into a new computer without internet access. It's still crippled hardware until it calls home and gets authorization to replace it's Only Allowed To Run On computer with a new one.


BUT THE CLOUD IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE, I WAS TOLD.
 
2012-11-08 03:39:09 PM
Wait, they're complaining that a "Massive Multiplayer Online gaming mouse" requires you to have been Online to use advanced features in Massive Multiplayer Online games?
This is an outrage!
 
2012-11-08 03:39:47 PM
This is me...

www.globalnerdy.com

/I hate "the cloud"
 
2012-11-08 03:40:40 PM
Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.
 
2012-11-08 03:41:27 PM
I used a Razer Naga for years without ever signing up for that crap. You absolutely do not need to do it. The crap about 'OMG it becomes a plug and play mouse' is a f***ing joke. Yes - by 'plug and play' they mean 'Works perfectly, exactly as intended' then yes, that's what it is.

You can configure all the normal mouse sensitivity options that your OS supports through the OS.
 
2012-11-08 03:43:33 PM

StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.


You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.
 
2012-11-08 03:43:58 PM

StrangeQ: Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then?


Not buy the "Massive Multiplayer Online gaming mouse"?
 
2012-11-08 03:49:47 PM
DRM in your peripherals? Because those Mouse Pirates are out of control!
 
2012-11-08 03:52:15 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.

You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.


If by work you mean will have the same functionality of a $2 mouse from Staples, then yes. If you want to use the full gamut of programmable options you have to register, at least initially. It doesn't matter that you can use it offline after that; that one time is one time too many. It is another example of companies making consumers dance like good little puppets and consumers being too blinded by their all encompassing drive to consume to care. I don't mind dancing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tie a piece of string to my arms and legs and make me do it.
 
2012-11-08 03:57:52 PM

StrangeQ: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.

You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.

If by work you mean will have the same functionality of a $2 mouse from Staples, then yes. If you want to use the full gamut of programmable options you have to register, at least initially. It doesn't matter that you can use it offline after that; that one time is one time too many. It is another example of companies making consumers dance like good little puppets and consumers being too blinded by their all encompassing drive to consume to care. I don't mind dancing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tie a piece of string to my arms and legs and make me do it.


I will personally send you a check for $1,000 USD if you can link me a $2 dollar mouse from Staples that has the same functionality as an out-of-the-box Razor Naga.

I'll wait. Please post link.
 
2012-11-08 04:02:50 PM

Wittenberg Dropout: DRM in your peripherals? Because those Mouse Pirates are out of control!


Mouse pirates you say?
eventservices.disney.go.com
 
2012-11-08 04:09:13 PM
Razer products suck, the mouse I got constantly double clicks even if I just click once, bastards.
 
2012-11-08 04:27:05 PM
Instead of updating the article to say it actually doesn't need an internet connection why not just delete the damn post?
 
2012-11-08 04:42:23 PM
Right. Think I'll just stay here in the stone age with my old fashioned doesn't-require-me-to-register-a-damn-thing. Logitech Marble Mouse.

Kthanxbai.
 
2012-11-08 05:01:16 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Arkanaut: ForgotMyTowel: Actually, it sounds like that might be the exact opposite case. Sounds like they put your configuration and profile online so if you were to take it to a different computer (or have to reinstall the software/OS) you wouldn't have to redo your settings. Not a bad idea if you have a particularly complicated set up.

Why not just have a chip in the damn mouse that saves those settings?

They want to collect users' settings to see what's most popular, for future product development.


I have a Lachesis. As far as I know the settings are saved to the device.

The Lachesis also holds multiple profiles that can be that are switched by pressing a button on the bottom of the mouse.

I have never had problems using this mouse on any computer regardless- Mac, Windows or otherwise.
 
2012-11-08 05:12:42 PM
I submitted this yesterday with a crappier headline.
 
2012-11-08 05:29:49 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.

You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.

If by work you mean will have the same functionality of a $2 mouse from Staples, then yes. If you want to use the full gamut of programmable options you have to register, at least initially. It doesn't matter that you can use it offline after that; that one time is one time too many. It is another example of companies making consumers dance like good little puppets and consumers being too blinded by their all encompassing drive to consume to care. I don't mind dancing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tie a piece of string to my arms and legs and make me do it.

I will personally send you a check for $1,000 USD if you can link me a $2 dollar mouse from Staples that has the same functionality as an out-of-the-box Razor Naga.

I'll wait. Please post link.


You mean the article we are commenting on?
 
2012-11-08 05:51:28 PM

A challenger appears: Instead of updating the article to say it actually doesn't need an internet connection why not just delete the damn post?


Is this really that difficult to understand? Yes, it needs an internet connection to become fully functional. It doesn't need a constant internet connection after that.
 
2012-11-08 06:00:47 PM
That's what you get for spending that much on a mouse.
 
2012-11-08 07:01:51 PM
I bet this viral story has done wonders for Razer. I hope they goddamn choke on it.
 
2012-11-08 07:24:35 PM
Wait... they have the internet for mice, now?
 
2012-11-08 07:48:57 PM
The most important setting you can only change in their config program: what color the LED puts out (mine now glows pink).
 
2012-11-08 08:18:42 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.

You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.

If by work you mean will have the same functionality of a $2 mouse from Staples, then yes. If you want to use the full gamut of programmable options you have to register, at least initially. It doesn't matter that you can use it offline after that; that one time is one time too many. It is another example of companies making consumers dance like good little puppets and consumers being too blinded by their all encompassing drive to consume to care. I don't mind dancing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tie a piece of string to my arms and legs and make me do it.

I will personally send you a check for $1,000 USD if you can link me a $2 dollar mouse from Staples that has the same functionality as an out-of-the-box Razor Naga.

I'll wait. Please post link.


FTFA...

"Finally call Razer who tells me the activation server is down, and I wont be able to use the mouse until it goes back up and will only be able to use it as a standard plug and play mouse til then. I ask about a workaround to use the mouse offline and they say there is none."

So yes, without connecting to their activation server you get a mouse that; moves your pointer; has right, left, and middle click; and scrolls vertically at least. And thats it. The cheapest mouse at staples is $7.99 and does all that. Cheapest USB mouse on newegg is $5.99.
 
2012-11-08 08:56:33 PM

Cyno01: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.

You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.

If by work you mean will have the same functionality of a $2 mouse from Staples, then yes. If you want to use the full gamut of programmable options you have to register, at least initially. It doesn't matter that you can use it offline after that; that one time is one time too many. It is another example of companies making consumers dance like good little puppets and consumers being too blinded by their all encompassing drive to consume to care. I don't mind dancing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tie a piece of string to my arms and legs and make me do it.

I will personally send you a check for $1,000 USD if you can link me a $2 dollar mouse from Staples that has the same functionality as an out-of-the-box Razor Naga.

I'll wait. Please post link.

FTFA...

"Finally call Razer who tells me the activation server is down, and I wont be able to use the mouse until it goes back up and will only be able to use it as a standard plug and play mouse til then. I ask about a workaround to use the mouse offline and they say there is none."

So yes, without connecting to their activation server you get a mouse that; moves your pointer; has right, left, and middle click; and scrolls vertically at least. And thats it. The cheapest mouse at staples is $7.99 and does all that. Cheapest ...


1 cent with free shipping on ebay......
 
2012-11-08 09:05:00 PM
cdn3.hark.com
Naga ... naga ... not gonna buy their mouse anymore that's for sure
 
2012-11-08 09:06:35 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
Naga daw-it
 
2012-11-08 09:40:12 PM

Old enough to know better: Right. Think I'll just stay here in the stone age with my old fashioned doesn't-require-me-to-register-a-damn-thing. Logitech Marble Mouse.


Meanwhile, my Logitech Harmony remote requires Internet access to reprogram. The client software is just an embedded IE window using ActiveX or something. Which sucks if they decide to discontinue support for it.

I could see connecting to the Internet to search for new codes, caching known codes on your PC, but that does not appear to be the case.
 
2012-11-08 09:53:01 PM

Cyno01: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Fark_Guy_Rob: StrangeQ: Any company that creates a piece of hardware or software that is required to phone home before it becomes functional can go fark themselves. I have already purchased the product; there is absolutely no reason why I should have to jump through any further hoops to receive permission to use it. Maybe I bought it with the intention of using it in an embedded system that will never see any sort of network connectivity; what am I supposed to do then? Companies keep pulling this bullshiat, and they they have the audacity to wonder why piracy exists.

You can take it out of the box, plug it in, and it will work.
No internet required.

If by work you mean will have the same functionality of a $2 mouse from Staples, then yes. If you want to use the full gamut of programmable options you have to register, at least initially. It doesn't matter that you can use it offline after that; that one time is one time too many. It is another example of companies making consumers dance like good little puppets and consumers being too blinded by their all encompassing drive to consume to care. I don't mind dancing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone tie a piece of string to my arms and legs and make me do it.

I will personally send you a check for $1,000 USD if you can link me a $2 dollar mouse from Staples that has the same functionality as an out-of-the-box Razor Naga.

I'll wait. Please post link.

FTFA...

"Finally call Razer who tells me the activation server is down, and I wont be able to use the mouse until it goes back up and will only be able to use it as a standard plug and play mouse til then. I ask about a workaround to use the mouse offline and they say there is none."

So yes, without connecting to their activation server you get a mouse that; moves your pointer; has right, left, and middle click; and scrolls vertically at least. And thats it. The cheapest mouse at staples is $7.99 and does all that. Cheapest ...


You're both wrong, I prefer this to "you're both right". I have a Razer Naga Epic, which apparently was prior to the Synapse thing. My mouse will not work with Synapse at all. All of the settings are local, do not sync, and do not require the internet to access. This is likely the "works as advertised out of the box" mouse. The new Nagas; however, do work with Synapse (I don't have the new one, so I dunno if it works with the old software as well), and would require the single handshake to work properly.
 
2012-11-08 11:17:40 PM

simplicimus: On the other-hand, I was surprised my latest trackball uses a 2.4 ghz wireless link.


Why? Wireless mice have been using that for years.
 
2012-11-08 11:39:49 PM

Lsherm: simplicimus: On the other-hand, I was surprised my latest trackball uses a 2.4 ghz wireless link.

Why? Wireless mice have been using that for years.


Haven't bought a mouse or trackball in years. Used up all my usb mice with the purchase of my latest laptop, so I bought a logitech, and was surprised at the tech.
 
2012-11-08 11:44:30 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I will personally send you a check for $1,000 USD if you can link me a $2 dollar mouse from Staples that has the same functionality as an out-of-the-box Razor Naga.

I'll wait. Please post link.


Considering I have the Razor Naga and its a piece of shiat, I will take that check.

The farking POS will freeze up on me, will double click all the time when I single click, its a farking magnet for dust in the sensor and refuses to work until I get out eyeglass cloth to clean it for 10 minutes only to have to do all of that over again in less than a month. I had an old logitech wireless that I was going to give to my niece but kept it since this one keeps farking up every few days, you would think for something that was close to $100 it would work a lot better than my $45 logitech but no it doesnt, hell my $15 wireless mouse I use for my work laptop has filled in for it before when my laptop bag was close to me and I got tired of farking with the razor. I will never buy another POS razor peripheral again, working is better than any bells and whistles a device may have.

So will that be check or money order?
 
2012-11-09 01:32:02 AM
I have a naga and have never had the slightest problem with it in any way, in spite of a long period of highly unreliable internet access some while ago.

In this case you got your new mouse and it works apart from the software driven configurable parts. Also people do NOT buy such equipment primarily for the extra buttons, they buy them for the precision performance and build quality.

Sure its definitely an error on their part to require connection once in the synaps software, and they should change it, but it is an error that almost noone will ever notice. You dont buy fancy gaming mice when you dont have an internet connection at all.
 
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