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(Talking Points Memo)   I don't know which is stranger, that young people came out for Obama once more, or that this is the second election in a row in recent memory that young people were actually decisive   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 19
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2012-11-08 11:02:58 AM  
4 votes:
Us young people are getting sick and tired of you old people and your failed, bigoted policies. Get out of the way already.
2012-11-08 10:51:43 AM  
3 votes:

ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.

He's not socially moderate in the overall sense, but he is more socially moderate than the rest of the GOP. He supports civil unions and extending rights to gay couples, agreed with the DADT repeal, accepts evolution and global warming and thinks science should be taught in science class.

Not ideal, especially on abortion, but loads better than the majority of the GOP.


I just find it astonishing that our country has moved SO far to the right that accepting evolution is considered social moderation. That SCIENCE is a sign of moderation. No, I refuse the very presentation of that as moderation. That should be the default.

I'm still gonna go with conservative, not moderate. We're shifting too far to the right on what constitutes the center.
2012-11-08 09:29:22 AM  
3 votes:
Again - no. Young people were not decisive. Obama won EVERY demographic except for one.

Obama won young people.
Obama won blacks.
Obama won hispanics.
Obama won asians.
Obama won women.

Romney won a single group - white men. The only decisive aspect of this election is that white men decisively kept it close.
2012-11-08 09:06:59 AM  
3 votes:
The times, they are a'changing. I for one welcome our new socially progressive overlords.
2012-11-08 08:49:50 AM  
3 votes:

gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.


And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform
2012-11-08 11:32:18 AM  
2 votes:
I'm 24, and even though I like to think I'm a left-leaning centrist, it was a pretty easy choice for me to make.

Like it or not, the economy is heading in the right direction under Obama and Romney did absolutely NOTHING to convince me that he would do anything more but return to the failed GOP policies of the 2000's.

That and you had a Senate Candidate who doesn't even know basic biology and it made the choice even easier.

Unless the GOP ditches the crazies who are trying to take over the party, they aren't getting my vote for a long time.
2012-11-08 11:24:14 AM  
2 votes:
If we could just get young people to realize that we have elections every 2 years, not 4, we'd be in pretty good shape.
2012-11-08 11:03:16 AM  
2 votes:
As a 26 year old who didn't vote for Obama in 08, I gladly punched my ballot for him this go around. Partly because I think he's done a great job but mostly because the Republicans/Tea Party is literally trying to re-write history in front of us and pretend like I don't remember their actions and words over the past 10 years. It's sickening...
2012-11-08 10:36:58 AM  
2 votes:
I'm 30, so I may be outside the "young person" demographic, but my sister is 24, and she said that when she went to vote, there were probably several hundred people about her age in the same line. A lot of older people (40+), but a whole lot of people her age and younger. When my boyfriend and I voted that morning, there were a lot of geriatric people voting; I think a busload from the local nursing homes dropped them off.

The population is getting younger, smarter, and more ethnically and culturally diverse. That doesn't bode well for a party that prides itself on being the defenders of old, Christian, rich white men.
2012-11-08 01:55:48 PM  
1 votes:

HellRaisingHoosier: The fact of the matter is, the the reason Millennials haven't been voting in force is because we have no one we want to vote for. I honestly can't think of a sinlge Millennial who is in Congress, and the oldest of us are hitting our late twenties. It is absolutely horrible and is firmly in the realm of taxation without representation. Our parents and grandparents are spending our wealth and assets and we do not have a single voice to say enough is enough.


My only hope is that they'll get there when they realize they need help from younger generations in their twilight years, but the younger generations will have none of that bullshiat after facing housing and educational costs 10x what their parents paid.

From personal experience, the older generations just don't understand MATH.
FiL, who graduated debt free in 1976 with help from his parents, bought a house for 40K in 1978, had two children on a single income, and has been employed by the same architecture firm for the last 20 years, thinks I'm less of a man because I paid 40K for college, can't afford a $300K house, the job market is terrible (my first job out of college got outsourced), and wonders aloud why he doesn't have grandchildren yet.
He just doesn't understand why, if I work and my wife work, why we still rent an apartment, can't afford a car, and definitely can't afford children. He seriously thinks we spend all of our money on video games and if we'd just apply ourselves, we'd get jobs that pay 2x as much.
2012-11-08 12:22:00 PM  
1 votes:

thurstonxhowell: If we could just get young people to realize that we have elections every 2 years, not 4, we'd be in pretty good shape.


And that you have to do it again, and Again, And AGAIN, AND AGAIN!

This is not a set it and forget it preference on your email account. There is no adblocker addin. You have to keep clicking "No I don't want that, I want nice things".

Otherwise the crazies win, and we get to pick up the tab.
DGS [TotalFark]
2012-11-08 11:42:24 AM  
1 votes:

Doc Daneeka: DamnYankees: Again - no. Young people were not decisive. Obama won EVERY demographic except for one.

Obama won young people.
Obama won blacks.
Obama won hispanics.
Obama won asians.
Obama won women.

Romney won a single group - white men. The only decisive aspect of this election is that white men decisively kept it close.

Hey, don't blame me. I'm an over-30 straight white dude who voted for Obama. Again.

Don't ask me what's wrong with my demographic.


I can relate to this. I think the single largest issue with our demographic is "we used to have it so much better when being white male made us the ruling class. oh, and jesus says obama is bad." It's not all, but it clearly is still a significant issue.

Just ask O'Reilly. We've lost our traditional values (of white males being at the core of everything, from congregations to banks to blue collar jobs to office managers) and whites aren't the overwhelming majority of voters to be pandered to. It'd be so much easier and comfortable if we could go back to having white males just own and run 99% of everything, right? It'd be simple to have one message sent out to all corners of the nation.
2012-11-08 11:32:01 AM  
1 votes:

coco ebert: I just find it astonishing that our country has moved SO far to the right that accepting evolution is considered social moderation.



Woodrow Wilson, elected 100 years ago this week: "Of course, like every other man of intelligence and education I do believe in organic evolution. It surprises me that at this late date such questions should be raised. "
2012-11-08 11:09:20 AM  
1 votes:

YoungSwedishBlonde: As a 26 year old who didn't vote for Obama in 08, I gladly punched my ballot for him this go around. Partly because I think he's done a great job but mostly because the Republicans/Tea Party is literally trying to re-write history in front of us and pretend like I don't remember their actions and words over the past 10 years. It's sickening...


It's amazing how the cons fail to grasp how a lot of the Dem voting was people going "fark your teabag of lies". Obama at least acts like a statesman instead of just derping and lying. I would have voted for a right of center guy who was moderate on social issues over Obama, but the Reps forced my hand and the nice chocolate man received my vote.
2012-11-08 11:02:30 AM  
1 votes:

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: but compared to the rest of his party he's not a rapey-douchey caveman of a social conservative.


Yup, but coco is absolutely correct that when we say "he's not a rapey-douchey caveman" as a compliment it means we've drifted too far to the right.
2012-11-08 09:55:22 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: Diogenes: somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.

As a person he could have given Obama a run for his money. As someone seeking this GOP's nomination he was toast. Sad, indeed.

I do appreciate the fact that he didn't sit down and shut up and fall in line after he was out of the running.

Same, made me want to campaign for him if he makes another run. He really was a uniter

/fairly liberal
//like a Lincoln Republican of old


The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.
2012-11-08 09:45:05 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.


As a person he could have given Obama a run for his money. As someone seeking this GOP's nomination he was toast. Sad, indeed.

I do appreciate the fact that he didn't sit down and shut up and fall in line after he was out of the running.
2012-11-08 09:20:40 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: SilentStrider: Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.

Who, exactly?

/Huntsman 2016!


That was the guy they should have nominated. (or Gary Johnson before he bailed in December '11)
2012-11-08 09:10:18 AM  
1 votes:
Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.
 
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