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(Talking Points Memo)   I don't know which is stranger, that young people came out for Obama once more, or that this is the second election in a row in recent memory that young people were actually decisive   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 158
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2012-11-08 07:39:22 AM  
I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.
 
2012-11-08 08:49:50 AM  

gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.


And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform
 
2012-11-08 08:51:40 AM  

Coolfusis: gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.

And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform


Exactly. What those folks saw was just a microcosm of the demographic wave that is already up to their waists. they're just too busy listening to Rush and Boortz to notice that the water keeps rising.
 
2012-11-08 08:55:06 AM  
We're coming for you, old people.

Be afraid.
 
2012-11-08 08:58:16 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Coolfusis: gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.

And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform

Exactly. What those folks saw was just a microcosm of the demographic wave that is already up to their waists. they're just too busy listening to Rush and Boortz to notice that the water keeps rising.


We didn't even come close to swinging the county, 15% O or something. It was enough to get people's attention, though.
 
2012-11-08 08:58:19 AM  
Those young folks are too old for this shiat, is what it boils down to.
 
2012-11-08 09:06:59 AM  
The times, they are a'changing. I for one welcome our new socially progressive overlords.
 
2012-11-08 09:10:18 AM  
Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.
 
2012-11-08 09:15:44 AM  

SilentStrider: Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.


Who, exactly?

/Huntsman 2016!
 
2012-11-08 09:17:20 AM  

Coolfusis: gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.

And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform


That must have brought a broad grin across your mug.

One can only imagine the looks on their faces when they've realized their cunning plan may not work. It's a bit easier for a group of young people to simply hop in a car and drive down to the polling station. Can't exactly do that with the older crowd.
 
2012-11-08 09:20:40 AM  

somedude210: SilentStrider: Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.

Who, exactly?

/Huntsman 2016!


That was the guy they should have nominated. (or Gary Johnson before he bailed in December '11)
 
2012-11-08 09:22:27 AM  

BunkyBrewman: somedude210: SilentStrider: Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.

Who, exactly?

/Huntsman 2016!

That was the guy they should have nominated. (or Gary Johnson before he bailed in December '11)


Nah, Huntsman was too moderate. Johnson was too crazy when he went Libertarian
 
2012-11-08 09:24:00 AM  

BunkyBrewman: somedude210: SilentStrider: Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.

Who, exactly?

/Huntsman 2016!

That was the guy they should have nominated. (or Gary Johnson before he bailed in December '11)


My 24 year old cousin - successful, works for KPMG with their banking customers - voted for Johnson. I wonder if he told my uncle.
 
2012-11-08 09:29:22 AM  
Again - no. Young people were not decisive. Obama won EVERY demographic except for one.

Obama won young people.
Obama won blacks.
Obama won hispanics.
Obama won asians.
Obama won women.

Romney won a single group - white men. The only decisive aspect of this election is that white men decisively kept it close.
 
2012-11-08 09:42:22 AM  
This is how the teabaggers respond to someone who points out that their draconian social crusade may be turning off voters:

To: sigSEGV

what the hell are you on about, the poster never made any hate comment, that line of attack you have just done is what th left does when one opposes their agenda.

Homosexuality is not normal, a man getting turned on about wanting to stick his penis up a hole where feces comes out of is not healthy, nor normal nor natural or what nature intended.
It is a perverted sex and that is it and they think they shoudl ne proud of how they have their sex and then be celebrated as if they're hero's?

We never lost the election because of talk like that we lost it due to voter fraud, a media which lied and a community of blacks who are racst and only voted based on color.

13 posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:48:43 AM by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]
 
2012-11-08 09:42:57 AM  

Diogenes: BunkyBrewman: somedude210: SilentStrider: Congrats democrats. You're starting to tap a previously untapped resource.

Don't blow it.
Nominate someone in 2016 who can also tap this resource.

Who, exactly?

/Huntsman 2016!

That was the guy they should have nominated. (or Gary Johnson before he bailed in December '11)

My 24 year old cousin - successful, works for KPMG with their banking customers - voted for Johnson. I wonder if he told my uncle.


I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again. He was a great candidate and his rallies were pretty awesome.

/sad Huntsman
 
2012-11-08 09:45:05 AM  

somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.


As a person he could have given Obama a run for his money. As someone seeking this GOP's nomination he was toast. Sad, indeed.

I do appreciate the fact that he didn't sit down and shut up and fall in line after he was out of the running.
 
2012-11-08 09:45:11 AM  
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We voted before it was cool. We voted for Jill Stein. You've probably never heard of her.
 
2012-11-08 09:48:23 AM  

Diogenes: somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.

As a person he could have given Obama a run for his money. As someone seeking this GOP's nomination he was toast. Sad, indeed.

I do appreciate the fact that he didn't sit down and shut up and fall in line after he was out of the running.


Same, made me want to campaign for him if he makes another run. He really was a uniter

/fairly liberal
//like a Lincoln Republican of old
 
2012-11-08 09:49:35 AM  

Aarontology: We're coming for you, old people.

Be afraid.


Joke's on you. By the time you get to us, you'll be old people too. Hooray entropy!
 
2012-11-08 09:55:22 AM  

somedude210: Diogenes: somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.

As a person he could have given Obama a run for his money. As someone seeking this GOP's nomination he was toast. Sad, indeed.

I do appreciate the fact that he didn't sit down and shut up and fall in line after he was out of the running.

Same, made me want to campaign for him if he makes another run. He really was a uniter

/fairly liberal
//like a Lincoln Republican of old


The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.
 
2012-11-08 09:55:51 AM  

BunkyBrewman: Coolfusis: gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.

And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform

That must have brought a broad grin across your mug.

One can only imagine the looks on their faces when they've realized their cunning plan may not work. It's a bit easier for a group of young people to simply hop in a car and drive down to the polling station. Can't exactly do that with the older crowd.



What I felt like:
farm3.staticflickr.com

The best part is knowing none of them can say anything against it openly, or risk sounding like they don't like people being involved in democracy. Even down here, that's a no-no.
 
2012-11-08 10:18:16 AM  

coco ebert: somedude210: Diogenes: somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.

As a person he could have given Obama a run for his money. As someone seeking this GOP's nomination he was toast. Sad, indeed.

I do appreciate the fact that he didn't sit down and shut up and fall in line after he was out of the running.

Same, made me want to campaign for him if he makes another run. He really was a uniter

/fairly liberal
//like a Lincoln Republican of old

The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.


True, but then we have a conservative/moderate republican to confront the moderate/liberal democrat. That's how it should be
 
2012-11-08 10:33:43 AM  

coco ebert: The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.


But he is (compared to the rest of the party, at least) socially moderate. That's the key with the younger demographics. Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong. A socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidate would erase the democrats advantage with women and voters under 40. You think voters under 40 aren't receptive to the argument that Social Security needs to be overhauled?

But that person would never have the Evangelical support, hence why the GOP is screwed.
 
2012-11-08 10:36:58 AM  
I'm 30, so I may be outside the "young person" demographic, but my sister is 24, and she said that when she went to vote, there were probably several hundred people about her age in the same line. A lot of older people (40+), but a whole lot of people her age and younger. When my boyfriend and I voted that morning, there were a lot of geriatric people voting; I think a busload from the local nursing homes dropped them off.

The population is getting younger, smarter, and more ethnically and culturally diverse. That doesn't bode well for a party that prides itself on being the defenders of old, Christian, rich white men.
 
2012-11-08 10:38:31 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.

But he is (compared to the rest of the party, at least) socially moderate. That's the key with the younger demographics. Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong. A socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidate would erase the democrats advantage with women and voters under 40. You think voters under 40 aren't receptive to the argument that Social Security needs to be overhauled?

But that person would never have the Evangelical support, hence why the GOP is screwed.


How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.
 
2012-11-08 10:39:55 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong.


The problem with the (non-insane) portion of the GOP can best be summed up by RONPAUL: they can find the problems, they can point to them and explain how they are dire situations that need to be fixed, but their solutions either don't exist or exacerbate the problem. There are serious issues, and there are very politically risky moves that must be taken to solve them. The simplest one to explain is how Medicare + Medicaid + SS + Defense > revenues for any given year. Those four are considered untouchable, yet with only those we'd still run a deficit.

That's one reason I begrudgingly had a bit of respect for Paul Ryan; his solutions were certainly farking insane, but he was at least admitting to the problems and trying to do something about it. I was really hoping there would be a larger discussion about how to reduce Medicare/Medicaid/SS spending, but the Romney campaign decided to just jerk themselves off about Obama's Medicare spending cuts and then push more military spending. Totally the opposite.

I'd love to see Obama leverage his lame duck status to make some serious changes in those departments, but I have a feeling they're so toxic that even if he wanted to he'd poison the well for Democrats in '16 and beyond.
 
2012-11-08 10:44:47 AM  
Does anyone have the turnout percentage? I think total turnout stayed in the 55-60% range, and the 18-29 crowd showed up in greater NUMBERS than in 2008 (which is indicative of nothing but population growth) - was it anything close to old people's traditional 80%?

In 2008: "Between 22 and 24 million young Americans ages 18-29 voted, resulting in an estimated youth voter turnout...between 49.3 and 54.5 percent...an increase of 1 to 6 percentage points over the estimated youth turnout in 2004, and an increase of between 8 and 13 percentage points over the turnout in the 2000 election. The all-time highest youth turnout was 55.4 percent in 1972, the first year that 18-year-olds could vote in a presidential election."
 
2012-11-08 10:47:02 AM  

coco ebert: How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.


He's not socially moderate in the overall sense, but he is more socially moderate than the rest of the GOP. He supports civil unions and extending rights to gay couples, agreed with the DADT repeal, accepts evolution and global warming and thinks science should be taught in science class.

Not ideal, especially on abortion, but loads better than the majority of the GOP.
 
2012-11-08 10:51:43 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.

He's not socially moderate in the overall sense, but he is more socially moderate than the rest of the GOP. He supports civil unions and extending rights to gay couples, agreed with the DADT repeal, accepts evolution and global warming and thinks science should be taught in science class.

Not ideal, especially on abortion, but loads better than the majority of the GOP.


I just find it astonishing that our country has moved SO far to the right that accepting evolution is considered social moderation. That SCIENCE is a sign of moderation. No, I refuse the very presentation of that as moderation. That should be the default.

I'm still gonna go with conservative, not moderate. We're shifting too far to the right on what constitutes the center.
 
2012-11-08 10:53:10 AM  

coco ebert: ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.

But he is (compared to the rest of the party, at least) socially moderate. That's the key with the younger demographics. Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong. A socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidate would erase the democrats advantage with women and voters under 40. You think voters under 40 aren't receptive to the argument that Social Security needs to be overhauled?

But that person would never have the Evangelical support, hence why the GOP is screwed.

How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.


The mitigating part put in there is "But he is (**compared to the rest of the party, at least**) socially moderate."

Not compared to the electorate that just gave the GOP a spanking, but compared to the rest of his party he's not a rapey-douchey caveman of a social conservative.
 
2012-11-08 10:53:12 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.

He's not socially moderate in the overall sense, but he is more socially moderate than the rest of the GOP. He supports civil unions and extending rights to gay couples, agreed with the DADT repeal, accepts evolution and global warming and thinks science should be taught in science class.

Not ideal, especially on abortion, but loads better than the majority of the GOP.


And if you have to have a conservative republican as your opponent, I couldn't think of a better guy
 
2012-11-08 10:56:55 AM  
To be clear, anyone opposed to rape is "socially moderate"
 
2012-11-08 10:57:46 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: coco ebert: ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.

But he is (compared to the rest of the party, at least) socially moderate. That's the key with the younger demographics. Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong. A socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidate would erase the democrats advantage with women and voters under 40. You think voters under 40 aren't receptive to the argument that Social Security needs to be overhauled?

But that person would never have the Evangelical support, hence why the GOP is screwed.

How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.

The mitigating part put in there is "But he is (**compared to the rest of the party, at least**) socially moderate."

Not compared to the electorate that just gave the GOP a spanking, but compared to the rest of his party he's not a rapey-douchey caveman of a social conservative.


Fair enough. But you also argued that that relative moderation would make him more appealing to young voters, and I was trying to point out how that relative moderation masks to a certain degree the quite conservative politics he actually has. It just further shifts to the right our political center. That's all.
 
2012-11-08 10:58:38 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: coco ebert: ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.

But he is (compared to the rest of the party, at least) socially moderate. That's the key with the younger demographics. Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong. A socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidate would erase the democrats advantage with women and voters under 40. You think voters under 40 aren't receptive to the argument that Social Security needs to be overhauled?

But that person would never have the Evangelical support, hence why the GOP is screwed.

How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.

The mitigating part put in there is "But he is (**compared to the rest of the party, at least**) socially moderate."

Not compared to the electorate that just gave the GOP a spanking, but compared to the rest of his party he's not a rapey-douchey caveman of a social conservative.


I think what really drew me to him was that he advocated term limits and the defense focus policy that Obama adopted shortly there after (focus on navy, spec ops, less on occupational force). I liked his foreign policy (he actually UNDERSTOOD china!) and some of his economic policies. Yes, he is socially conservative, but he's a high ranking mormon. Of course he is. The fact that he is accepting of gays is huge considering his party is 40 steps behind him on that. I believe he also welcomed the Dream Act when it came to immigration.

The man wasn't a moron. He was a very pragmatic and moderate person when it came to actually governing. He knows a great many things, and social issues aside, probably wouldn't be *that* much further right than Obama is now. At least he knows that we have no need for a defense budget that dwarfs those of the next 25 countries combined, and that a trade war with China is stupid
 
2012-11-08 10:59:27 AM  

coco ebert: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: coco ebert: ignatius_crumbcake: coco ebert: The thing is, Huntsman is not really a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe kind of moderate Republican, he's quite conservative. He's just not completely off the deep end bonkers conservative like most of the candidates this year (i.e. believes in science), so he seemed moderate in comparison.

But he is (compared to the rest of the party, at least) socially moderate. That's the key with the younger demographics. Many of the republican points about the debt and spending and entitlement programs are not wrong. Overblown perhaps, and definitely hypocritical given their position on defense spending, but not wrong. A socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidate would erase the democrats advantage with women and voters under 40. You think voters under 40 aren't receptive to the argument that Social Security needs to be overhauled?

But that person would never have the Evangelical support, hence why the GOP is screwed.

How is he socially moderate? Is he pro-marriage equality or pro-choice? I thought he wasn't.

The mitigating part put in there is "But he is (**compared to the rest of the party, at least**) socially moderate."

Not compared to the electorate that just gave the GOP a spanking, but compared to the rest of his party he's not a rapey-douchey caveman of a social conservative.

Fair enough. But you also argued that that relative moderation would make him more appealing to young voters, and I was trying to point out how that relative moderation masks to a certain degree the quite conservative politics he actually has. It just further shifts to the right our political center. That's all.


also, I would like to point out that he has 3 incredibly hot daughters ^_^
 
2012-11-08 11:00:45 AM  
The even more interesting thing is that Obama did better among people in their 30s. All those late 20-something voters in 2008 came back and voted for him again.
 
2012-11-08 11:02:30 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: but compared to the rest of his party he's not a rapey-douchey caveman of a social conservative.


Yup, but coco is absolutely correct that when we say "he's not a rapey-douchey caveman" as a compliment it means we've drifted too far to the right.
 
2012-11-08 11:02:31 AM  

Coolfusis: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Coolfusis: gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.

And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform

Exactly. What those folks saw was just a microcosm of the demographic wave that is already up to their waists. they're just too busy listening to Rush and Boortz to notice that the water keeps rising.

We didn't even come close to swinging the county, 15% O or something. It was enough to get people's attention, though.


This could be a crazy conjecture, but if Obama had run the same ground game in all 50 states that he ran in the major battleground states, he might have had a shot at a margin like that.
 
2012-11-08 11:02:58 AM  
Us young people are getting sick and tired of you old people and your failed, bigoted policies. Get out of the way already.
 
2012-11-08 11:03:15 AM  

RexTalionis: The even more interesting thing is that Obama did better among people in their 30s. All those late 20-something voters in 2008 came back and voted for him again.


Well, considering that not voting would be one step towards Willard getting the presidency, there really is not other choice if you're an informed voter.
 
2012-11-08 11:03:16 AM  
As a 26 year old who didn't vote for Obama in 08, I gladly punched my ballot for him this go around. Partly because I think he's done a great job but mostly because the Republicans/Tea Party is literally trying to re-write history in front of us and pretend like I don't remember their actions and words over the past 10 years. It's sickening...
 
2012-11-08 11:03:53 AM  

somedude210: Nah, Huntsman was too moderate.


Huntsman is crazy conservative. He doesn't come across as so because he refuses to foam at the mouth.
 
2012-11-08 11:04:35 AM  
Republicans need to deploy shiny balls in 2012.
 
2012-11-08 11:04:51 AM  

somedude210: I voted for Huntsman in super tuesday (after he quit) and I'd do it again.


You voted for him after he quit? Why not put in a vote for Palin too, while you're at it?
 
2012-11-08 11:04:59 AM  
By the way, if anyone wants some serious schadenfraude, list to this clip of Dennis Prager on the election:

Link

As part of his depressed rant, he goes on about how the GOP didn't do enough to say that young people are being burdened with debt, and how stupid young people are for voting for liberals. I can't tell you how much joy I got out of this insanity.
 
2012-11-08 11:06:12 AM  

DamnYankees: As part of his depressed rant, he goes on about how the GOP didn't do enough to say that young people are being burdened with debt, and how stupid young people are for voting for liberals.


Young people are burdened with college debt, therefore we should eliminate scholarship programs. Thank you, GOP.
 
2012-11-08 11:06:39 AM  
What stymied their progress was their turnout in the 2010 elections, the teabaggers are like the wild and wonderful whites of the political world, they are savvy about gaming the system. These young people need to keep voting in smaller elections.
 
2012-11-08 11:06:45 AM  

Coolfusis: gopher321: I guess those Occupy Wall Street mofos knew exactly where the real blame lied.

And a lot of us worked with campus organizations to register and drive people to the polls. I live in a deeply red, rural part of Texas, and the looks on the volunteer's faces when cars full of teen/early 20's voters came in was pretty priceless.

/bonus: the majority of them were black or female
//not by our design
///guess people get offended when you shiat all over them for your campaign platform


Prairie View?
 
2012-11-08 11:07:12 AM  

sprawl15: DamnYankees: As part of his depressed rant, he goes on about how the GOP didn't do enough to say that young people are being burdened with debt, and how stupid young people are for voting for liberals.

Young people are burdened with college debt, therefore we should eliminate scholarship programs. Thank you, GOP.


Also, I vote for people who like rape.
 
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