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(American Thinker)   An article which describes the utter rampantness of voter fraud in our elections lists exactly zero instances which would have been stopped by requiring voters to show a picture ID   (americanthinker.com) divider line 16
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2012-11-08 12:31:26 PM  
6 votes:
Dear Modmins:

Can we please pretty please stop getting these idiotic posts greenlit? I know they generate a lot of arguments, which in turn generates a lot of traffic, but they're not helping. American Thinker isn't the viewpoint of a persecuted but still valid minority, working bravely against the heavy-handed bias of the mainstream media. They're not even a fair representation of the views of a significant chunk of Republican voters. At best, they're an amusing societal troll that has gone meta, and at worst they're the voice of a very small minority of Farkers. Please, stop getting at least one of their posts up per day.

There's precedent for this. We don't see much of Drudge or Free Republic up here anymore, and WND appears to be on the wane as well. I don't know the internals of that, maybe you just got sick of them, or maybe they can't really handle the traffic, or maybe they inexplicably asked you to stop sending traffic their way. I don't know, and I don't care: the point is, they're gone. And the Politics tab is more intelligent, rational, and fun because of it.

Don't get me wrong: I love the Fark Politics tab. I really do. Yes, some of the people here are idiots, but it is entirely because of my Farking that I was far and away the most widely read and informed of any of my friends this election season. Even better, I knew both sides of the debate: most people I know focus either solely on the left (DailyKos, MSNBC, Crooks & Liars, etc), solely on the right (Brietbart, TownHall, Fox, etc), or just skim the headlines on MSM sites like NYTimes, Washington Post, etc. I have read all of the above, and more. That's a good thing. Even though I don't always agree with what I read (on both sides), I get to look at the issues from all sides, I get to participate in some fun debates, and every now and then I even get lucky and see some tits.

But American Thinker doesn't contribute to any of that. It's not just a right-wing circle jerk, it's a right wing echo chamber. It literally adds zero value. I bet you 6 months' membership that if I went through the archives of this site and pulled up all of the various claims and predictions and checked them for accuracy, American Thinker would be right down there at the bottom. And they won't change. They won't even think about it.

Our nation has some serious issues ahead of it, and we need both parties to help fix it. It's not good to have one party gradually dissolve into a regional rump party, and if the right keeps reading stuff like this, that's what they'll do. So I'm asking you: please, stop linking to this site. Do it for the Politics tab. Do it for your country. Do it for the lulz.

Sincerely,

Whistleridge
2012-11-08 03:04:50 PM  
2 votes:

pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.


We're not asking to show us who broke the glass - we're asking to see the broken glass.
2012-11-08 03:00:07 PM  
2 votes:

pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.


agreed, your kid broke a glass and lied about it so a seekrit nationwide voter fraud conspiracy exists and republicans taking up voter ID as an issue isn't about suppressing votes but about preserving democracy because republicans are pure as the driven snow.
2012-11-08 02:34:47 PM  
2 votes:
The trolls are slowly, hesitantly, creeping back into [Politics]. Remind them how badly they just lost and watch them scurry like a roach when you flick on a light-switch.
2012-11-08 04:20:25 PM  
1 votes:

pxsteel: My brother in law (my wifes sister's husband) is an illegal. He had gone to Mexico to visit his mother who was in the hospital. When he returned I went with my sister in law to pay off the coyotes and pick him up.

He voted. he has a half dozen freinds that are around regularly. They are all illegal and they all voted. And I live in a state that has some regulations.


So...what you're really telling us is, you:

1. knowingly aided and abetted human trafficking
2. are harboring someone you know to be a felon, thereby making yourself a felon as well

And that's just what you've admitted in this one thread! Who knows what other deeds of evil lie in your checkered past? Why, you probably paid him to vote for Romney. Didn't you.
2012-11-08 03:27:52 PM  
1 votes:

pxsteel: Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.

[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.

Most states do not require any proof of citizenship to register or vote.


If, as you say, you can write down whatever name you want on a registration form and it won't be checked for citizenship or residence at any point by any one, why don't you go ahead and do it, and then come back and tell us how it went?
2012-11-08 03:01:31 PM  
1 votes:

pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.


[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.
2012-11-08 02:43:30 PM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: what prevents people from filling [provisional ballots] out all over town


A provisional ballot is also a voter-registration form. (At least here in NC). The ballot within the envelope is not counted unless/until the voter is deemed eligible by the county board. If the person's not already registered then the ballot's not going to be counted. Voter registrations already get matched up to physical people (by SSN or driver's license number or [I forget what else]). The ballot within the envelope is connected to the voter (ballots cast the normal way on Election Day are no) so they are "retrievable"; if the voter is determined to not have been eligible it can be "un-counted".

Realistically, any provisional-ballot counting (they all have to be processed by hand) is going to be done with candidates' lawyers looking over everyone's shoulder, ready to chew someone's clothes off at the slightest technicality.
2012-11-08 02:40:35 PM  
1 votes:

pxsteel: There is somewhere between 12-25 million illigal aliens in this country. These people should not be voting because they are not citizens. They find a way to get housing, a job, registrations for thier cars and even kickbacks from the IRS.

Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote. I know the left wing machine where I live does everything that they can to help them, because they vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats.


By God, you're right. They MUST have figured out some way to vote! Oh wait. Less than 60% of Americans can figure it out, despite nearly all of us having been born here and lived here our whole lives, and being told how important it is that we all vote. Apparently it's harder than you think.

Also, did you know that there are monsters under your bed? They're horrifying creatures - all teeth and claws - and they're going to eat you when you go to sleep. I'm convinced of it. So that means even though you've never seen them, they must be there.
2012-11-08 02:32:15 PM  
1 votes:

pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote


Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.
2012-11-08 02:30:00 PM  
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: Why would either party do voting fraud in any signficant numbers? The two parties already have a monopoly on it by not allowing third parties to participate in their debates


Find a candidate worthy of participation. One who can get even 10% in the polls a month before the CPD sets its schedule (so after the primaries and conventions, both of which third parties have). Ross Perot was in the debates in 1992 when he had 8-12% in the polls. By 1996, when he was at half that, he wasn't in the debates.

Remember the early GOP primary debates, with 9 people onstage and a general clusterfark? That's what happens when you let every candidate to a debate (this year, there were D, R, L, G, I, S, C, and I think one or two other parties on the ticket). Show CPD - which doesn't have a monopoly on debates, you know - that you're a viable candidate, and they'll invite you.

I'm sick of 3rd-party types whining about inclusion. Do some legwork first, THEN you get to the national scene. It doesn't work the other way around.

Back on topic: my buddy, who I randomly bumped into at my polling place Tuesday night, asked me what a "provisional ballot" is. After I explained it, he asked what prevents people from filling them out all over town. My response was "the fact that voting 5-10 times in a single election, even in a state like MD, is unlikely to move the needle; the fact that provisionals often don't get counted, the fact that (IIRC) they still check for a registration and they check for duplicate names...?"

// I'd be more worried about ballot-stuffing, like is so easy to do with electronic machines
// PAPER TRAILS, YOU MORONS (NB: not a single southern state which allows electronic voting requires a paper trail record. Farking yikes.)
2012-11-08 02:00:50 PM  
1 votes:
spineless liberals and democrats will still agree to a compromise that involves implementing voter ID laws eventually.
2012-11-08 01:59:51 PM  
1 votes:

whistleridge: Dear Modmins....


This sounds smart and stuff. How do I put you on ignore so that I can continue to mash my keys in outrage?

/jk. Favorited.
2012-11-08 01:59:17 PM  
1 votes:
Congrats, FB posters.

While you rail about the slow growth of the recovery because of obviously Farbongocus Maximus and not the most-filibustering Senate minority ever, your awesome party of patriots has spent millions to enact laws to solve a problem that never existed as explained by the DoJ under Bush 43.

I know you already have the gun, but do you have the guts to solve the problem with 2nd amendment solutions?

//hint: problem = your lack of intelligence
2012-11-08 12:57:08 PM  
1 votes:
Can't very well admit they live in an echo chamber now can they?
2012-11-08 12:16:46 PM  
1 votes:
People still think the point of Voter ID laws is to prevent fraud?
 
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