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(American Thinker)   An article which describes the utter rampantness of voter fraud in our elections lists exactly zero instances which would have been stopped by requiring voters to show a picture ID   (americanthinker.com) divider line 53
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2012-11-08 11:55:44 AM
Let me sum up the article:

ACORN! ACORN! ACORN!
 
2012-11-08 12:00:14 PM
ZOMG THEY STOLE THE ELECTION BY VOTING
 
2012-11-08 12:16:46 PM
People still think the point of Voter ID laws is to prevent fraud?
 
2012-11-08 12:31:26 PM
Dear Modmins:

Can we please pretty please stop getting these idiotic posts greenlit? I know they generate a lot of arguments, which in turn generates a lot of traffic, but they're not helping. American Thinker isn't the viewpoint of a persecuted but still valid minority, working bravely against the heavy-handed bias of the mainstream media. They're not even a fair representation of the views of a significant chunk of Republican voters. At best, they're an amusing societal troll that has gone meta, and at worst they're the voice of a very small minority of Farkers. Please, stop getting at least one of their posts up per day.

There's precedent for this. We don't see much of Drudge or Free Republic up here anymore, and WND appears to be on the wane as well. I don't know the internals of that, maybe you just got sick of them, or maybe they can't really handle the traffic, or maybe they inexplicably asked you to stop sending traffic their way. I don't know, and I don't care: the point is, they're gone. And the Politics tab is more intelligent, rational, and fun because of it.

Don't get me wrong: I love the Fark Politics tab. I really do. Yes, some of the people here are idiots, but it is entirely because of my Farking that I was far and away the most widely read and informed of any of my friends this election season. Even better, I knew both sides of the debate: most people I know focus either solely on the left (DailyKos, MSNBC, Crooks & Liars, etc), solely on the right (Brietbart, TownHall, Fox, etc), or just skim the headlines on MSM sites like NYTimes, Washington Post, etc. I have read all of the above, and more. That's a good thing. Even though I don't always agree with what I read (on both sides), I get to look at the issues from all sides, I get to participate in some fun debates, and every now and then I even get lucky and see some tits.

But American Thinker doesn't contribute to any of that. It's not just a right-wing circle jerk, it's a right wing echo chamber. It literally adds zero value. I bet you 6 months' membership that if I went through the archives of this site and pulled up all of the various claims and predictions and checked them for accuracy, American Thinker would be right down there at the bottom. And they won't change. They won't even think about it.

Our nation has some serious issues ahead of it, and we need both parties to help fix it. It's not good to have one party gradually dissolve into a regional rump party, and if the right keeps reading stuff like this, that's what they'll do. So I'm asking you: please, stop linking to this site. Do it for the Politics tab. Do it for your country. Do it for the lulz.

Sincerely,

Whistleridge
 
2012-11-08 12:41:34 PM
texasgopvote.com

Matthew Vadum, Condensed Fart
 
2012-11-08 12:45:31 PM

whistleridge: Dear Modmins:


dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-11-08 12:57:08 PM
Can't very well admit they live in an echo chamber now can they?
 
2012-11-08 01:23:33 PM
So what do they want us to say? That it wasn't a landslide? OK. I'm game. It was a brutal spanking and Romney won't be walking right for weeks.

After the shiat the GOP and its hired goodns tried in FL and VA, I would think some discretion would be called for.
 
2012-11-08 01:55:15 PM

You know..... I think it's time we just start simplifying our response to these incredibly stupid people who refuse to live within the confines of the facts:

Shut up, conservatives. Just shut up.
 
2012-11-08 01:56:32 PM

whistleridge: Dear Modmins:

Can we please pretty please stop getting these idiotic posts greenlit? I know they generate a lot of arguments, which in turn generates a lot of traffic, but they're not helping. American Thinker isn't the viewpoint of a persecuted but still valid minority, working bravely against the heavy-handed bias of the mainstream media. They're not even a fair representation of the views of a significant chunk of Republican voters. At best, they're an amusing societal troll that has gone meta, and at worst they're the voice of a very small minority of Farkers. Please, stop getting at least one of their posts up per day.

There's precedent for this. We don't see much of Drudge or Free Republic up here anymore, and WND appears to be on the wane as well. I don't know the internals of that, maybe you just got sick of them, or maybe they can't really handle the traffic, or maybe they inexplicably asked you to stop sending traffic their way. I don't know, and I don't care: the point is, they're gone. And the Politics tab is more intelligent, rational, and fun because of it.

Don't get me wrong: I love the Fark Politics tab. I really do. Yes, some of the people here are idiots, but it is entirely because of my Farking that I was far and away the most widely read and informed of any of my friends this election season. Even better, I knew both sides of the debate: most people I know focus either solely on the left (DailyKos, MSNBC, Crooks & Liars, etc), solely on the right (Brietbart, TownHall, Fox, etc), or just skim the headlines on MSM sites like NYTimes, Washington Post, etc. I have read all of the above, and more. That's a good thing. Even though I don't always agree with what I read (on both sides), I get to look at the issues from all sides, I get to participate in some fun debates, and every now and then I even get lucky and see some tits.

But American Thinker doesn't contribute to any of that. It's not just a right-wing circle jerk, it's a right wing echo cham ...


I started using Tampermonkey in Chrome to remove all American Thinker articles. I disabled it for the election (AT threads are a-hoppin'!) but it may be time to turn it back on.
 
2012-11-08 01:59:17 PM
Congrats, FB posters.

While you rail about the slow growth of the recovery because of obviously Farbongocus Maximus and not the most-filibustering Senate minority ever, your awesome party of patriots has spent millions to enact laws to solve a problem that never existed as explained by the DoJ under Bush 43.

I know you already have the gun, but do you have the guts to solve the problem with 2nd amendment solutions?

//hint: problem = your lack of intelligence
 
2012-11-08 01:59:51 PM

whistleridge: Dear Modmins....


This sounds smart and stuff. How do I put you on ignore so that I can continue to mash my keys in outrage?

/jk. Favorited.
 
2012-11-08 02:00:50 PM
spineless liberals and democrats will still agree to a compromise that involves implementing voter ID laws eventually.
 
2012-11-08 02:01:10 PM
In summary, we're still mad that blacks and youth are considered people and are allowed to vote.
 
2012-11-08 02:01:42 PM
Happily, Minnesota saw through the FUD and voted it down. With a DFL house, senate, and governor, it'll be a few years before we have to entertain this sort of lunacy again. Hopefully by then, the rapidly increasing ratio of Brown People will serve to defeat it once again.
 
2012-11-08 02:01:47 PM

Headso: spineless liberals and democrats will still agree to a compromise that involves implementing voter ID laws eventually.


NUH UH
 
2012-11-08 02:02:19 PM
FTFA:
Remember that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed specifically to prevent voter fraud which was endemic back then.

In The Real World:

"Echoing the language of the 15th Amendment, the Act prohibits states from imposing any "voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure ... to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color."
 
2012-11-08 02:03:07 PM
Why would either party do voting fraud in any signficant numbers? The two parties already have a monopoly on it by not allowing third parties to participate in their debates
 
2012-11-08 02:04:17 PM
MEEP! MEEP!
 
2012-11-08 02:09:05 PM

whistleridge: Dear Modmins:

Can we please pretty please stop getting these idiotic posts greenlit? I know they generate a lot of arguments, which in turn generates a lot of traffic, but they're not helping. American Thinker isn't the viewpoint of a persecuted but still valid minority, working bravely against the heavy-handed bias of the mainstream media. They're not even a fair representation of the views of a significant chunk of Republican voters. At best, they're an amusing societal troll that has gone meta, and at worst they're the voice of a very small minority of Farkers. Please, stop getting at least one of their posts up per day.

There's precedent for this. We don't see much of Drudge or Free Republic up here anymore, and WND appears to be on the wane as well. I don't know the internals of that, maybe you just got sick of them, or maybe they can't really handle the traffic, or maybe they inexplicably asked you to stop sending traffic their way. I don't know, and I don't care: the point is, they're gone. And the Politics tab is more intelligent, rational, and fun because of it.

Don't get me wrong: I love the Fark Politics tab. I really do. Yes, some of the people here are idiots, but it is entirely because of my Farking that I was far and away the most widely read and informed of any of my friends this election season. Even better, I knew both sides of the debate: most people I know focus either solely on the left (DailyKos, MSNBC, Crooks & Liars, etc), solely on the right (Brietbart, TownHall, Fox, etc), or just skim the headlines on MSM sites like NYTimes, Washington Post, etc. I have read all of the above, and more. That's a good thing. Even though I don't always agree with what I read (on both sides), I get to look at the issues from all sides, I get to participate in some fun debates, and every now and then I even get lucky and see some tits.

But American Thinker doesn't contribute to any of that. It's not just a right-wing circle jerk, it's a right wing echo cham ...


Plus most of us don't even click the link and there's plugins to disable adds, popups, java, flash, etc.
 
2012-11-08 02:09:34 PM

urbangirl: FTFA:
Remember that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed specifically to prevent voter fraud which was endemic back then.

In The Real World:

"Echoing the language of the 15th Amendment, the Act prohibits states from imposing any "voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure ... to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color."


Unfortunately, the GOP still thinks that being non-white male = voter fraud.
 
2012-11-08 02:10:01 PM

whistleridge: But American Thinker doesn't contribute to any of that. It's not just a right-wing circle jerk, it's a right wing echo chamber


I too once thought there was an intelligent conservative argument out there that we are just not getting. A couple of the many examples that changed that were the documentary by the johnson & johnson kid where he gets into a short debate with the father of modern conservative economic thought and Friedman just went right to vomiting the socializms talkingpoint when confronted with the idea of slightly more progressive taxes, he had no intelligent response. Then I heard a debate on NPR between some nuns advocating left wing economic policy and a pastor that is supposed to be a deep right wing thinker and the guy went right into the lie that 47% of people pay no taxes. The only difference between a "smart" conservative and a Merkin Stinker is the floweriness of the verbiage they use when writing or talking.
 
2012-11-08 02:17:40 PM

whistleridge: Dear Modmins:


I'm not going to read your derp-ridden screed. If you have to post some sort of stupid shiat about how Obama's a Kenyan or something do it on websites where people want it instead of putting walls of indecipherable nonsense here.

/Why is everyone looking at me like that?
 
2012-11-08 02:19:12 PM
American Shiatter needs to take a 4 year hiatus.
 
2012-11-08 02:24:43 PM
Voter fraud, also known as vote fraud, election fraud, and electoral fraud, refers to the specific offenses of fraudulent voting, impersonation, perjury, voter registration fraud, forgery, counterfeiting, bribery, destroying already cast ballots, and a multitude of crimes related to the electoral process.

Voter Fraud =/= Election Fraud
 
2012-11-08 02:29:44 PM
There is somewhere between 12-25 million illigal aliens in this country. These people should not be voting because they are not citizens. They find a way to get housing, a job, registrations for thier cars and even kickbacks from the IRS.

Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote. I know the left wing machine where I live does everything that they can to help them, because they vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats.
 
2012-11-08 02:30:00 PM

machoprogrammer: Why would either party do voting fraud in any signficant numbers? The two parties already have a monopoly on it by not allowing third parties to participate in their debates


Find a candidate worthy of participation. One who can get even 10% in the polls a month before the CPD sets its schedule (so after the primaries and conventions, both of which third parties have). Ross Perot was in the debates in 1992 when he had 8-12% in the polls. By 1996, when he was at half that, he wasn't in the debates.

Remember the early GOP primary debates, with 9 people onstage and a general clusterfark? That's what happens when you let every candidate to a debate (this year, there were D, R, L, G, I, S, C, and I think one or two other parties on the ticket). Show CPD - which doesn't have a monopoly on debates, you know - that you're a viable candidate, and they'll invite you.

I'm sick of 3rd-party types whining about inclusion. Do some legwork first, THEN you get to the national scene. It doesn't work the other way around.

Back on topic: my buddy, who I randomly bumped into at my polling place Tuesday night, asked me what a "provisional ballot" is. After I explained it, he asked what prevents people from filling them out all over town. My response was "the fact that voting 5-10 times in a single election, even in a state like MD, is unlikely to move the needle; the fact that provisionals often don't get counted, the fact that (IIRC) they still check for a registration and they check for duplicate names...?"

// I'd be more worried about ballot-stuffing, like is so easy to do with electronic machines
// PAPER TRAILS, YOU MORONS (NB: not a single southern state which allows electronic voting requires a paper trail record. Farking yikes.)
 
2012-11-08 02:32:15 PM

pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote


Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.
 
2012-11-08 02:34:47 PM
The trolls are slowly, hesitantly, creeping back into [Politics]. Remind them how badly they just lost and watch them scurry like a roach when you flick on a light-switch.
 
2012-11-08 02:37:10 PM
I run a polling place in NC. We got a Republican State legislature, and the Governorship went Republican this election.

So we're 100% certain to get a voter ID law soon. (They passed one a couple years ago and it got vetoed).

It'll be a great big pain in my ass, all to solve a nonexistent problem. (Other than the problem that college students and poor people vote, I guess).

Ugh.

I only had a few voters biatch about us not checking IDs. When I explained that we know which registrations have voted already, and if real voters were being impersonated, then when the impersonated voter shows up we'll know something's up, and we haven't been seeing that, they seemed to "get it".

OTOH I had a paranoid (Republican, of course) campaigner who was sure we were not verifying the curbside voters at all, just passing out ballots willy-nilly, and told me she didn't trust us. (One of my voters (black) trolled her by saying he'd voted in another county as well as there. That didn't help).
 
2012-11-08 02:40:18 PM

DamnYankees: ZOMG THEY STOLE THE ELECTION BY VOTING


My FB feed is full of folks saying essentially that (by the way, I gotta do something about that). A sampling from late Tuesday night:

"I can't watch. I'll have to just hear about it in the morning. The way I see it, election was stolen 4 years ago & going to happen again tonight. If you could see the bus loads of ppl dropped off at board of elections you'd understand. And if you really believe those are all "legitimate" Hamilton county voters you aren't living in state of Ohio. You're in a state of denial. I'm sure all major cities in Ohio were the same."
 
2012-11-08 02:40:35 PM

pxsteel: There is somewhere between 12-25 million illigal aliens in this country. These people should not be voting because they are not citizens. They find a way to get housing, a job, registrations for thier cars and even kickbacks from the IRS.

Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote. I know the left wing machine where I live does everything that they can to help them, because they vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats.


By God, you're right. They MUST have figured out some way to vote! Oh wait. Less than 60% of Americans can figure it out, despite nearly all of us having been born here and lived here our whole lives, and being told how important it is that we all vote. Apparently it's harder than you think.

Also, did you know that there are monsters under your bed? They're horrifying creatures - all teeth and claws - and they're going to eat you when you go to sleep. I'm convinced of it. So that means even though you've never seen them, they must be there.
 
2012-11-08 02:43:30 PM

Dr Dreidel: what prevents people from filling [provisional ballots] out all over town


A provisional ballot is also a voter-registration form. (At least here in NC). The ballot within the envelope is not counted unless/until the voter is deemed eligible by the county board. If the person's not already registered then the ballot's not going to be counted. Voter registrations already get matched up to physical people (by SSN or driver's license number or [I forget what else]). The ballot within the envelope is connected to the voter (ballots cast the normal way on Election Day are no) so they are "retrievable"; if the voter is determined to not have been eligible it can be "un-counted".

Realistically, any provisional-ballot counting (they all have to be processed by hand) is going to be done with candidates' lawyers looking over everyone's shoulder, ready to chew someone's clothes off at the slightest technicality.
 
2012-11-08 02:44:43 PM
photos.lasvegassun.com

Voter ID laws do work, just not like the Republicans want them to work.
 
2012-11-08 02:53:57 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.


Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.
 
2012-11-08 02:55:51 PM

Diogenes: It was a brutal spanking and Romney won't be walking right for weeks.


I'll be in my bunk.
 
2012-11-08 03:00:07 PM

pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.


agreed, your kid broke a glass and lied about it so a seekrit nationwide voter fraud conspiracy exists and republicans taking up voter ID as an issue isn't about suppressing votes but about preserving democracy because republicans are pure as the driven snow.
 
2012-11-08 03:01:31 PM

pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.


[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.
 
2012-11-08 03:04:18 PM

Headso:
I too once thought there was an intelligent conservative argument out there that we are just not getting. A couple of the many examples that changed that were the documentary by the johnson & johnson kid where he gets into a short debate with the father of modern conservative economic thought and Friedman just went right to vomiting the socializms talkingpoint when confronted with the idea of slightly more progressive taxes, he had no intelligent response. Then I heard a debate on NPR between some nuns advocating left wing economic policy and a pastor that is supposed to be a deep right wing thinker and the guy went right into the lie that 47% of people pay no taxes. The only difference between a "smart" conservative and a Merkin Stinker is the floweriness of the verbiage they use when writing or talking.


No, there is intelligent and thoughtful writing from the right. They're called 'Democrats'. The actual left, that which was represented by candidates like Jill Stein, has been pushed entirely out of the conversation.

In fairness, it is entirely their own fault. If they had been a bit more intelligent back in the 50's and 60's about not automatically endorsing wholesale whatever the latest screed coming out of the USSR was, maybe they wouldn't have been quite as thoroughly shunted off to one side.

And it's sad, really. I bet if you took all of the American voting public and gave them a candidate identification test, a significant percentage (30+%) would have identified with Stein first, Obama would have come across as the leading conservative candidate, and more or less everyone who didn't vote for one of the two of them would have identified with Johnson before Romney. In fact, I would bet money that if people had voted according solely to which candidate they believed best represented their views (and disregarded things like electability), Romney would have come in 4th or 5th out of the potential field.
 
2012-11-08 03:04:50 PM

pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.


We're not asking to show us who broke the glass - we're asking to see the broken glass.
 
2012-11-08 03:09:24 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: pxsteel: There is somewhere between 12-25 million illigal aliens in this country. These people should not be voting because they are not citizens. They find a way to get housing, a job, registrations for thier cars and even kickbacks from the IRS.

Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote. I know the left wing machine where I live does everything that they can to help them, because they vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats.

By God, you're right. They MUST have figured out some way to vote! Oh wait. Less than 60% of Americans can figure it out, despite nearly all of us having been born here and lived here our whole lives, and being told how important it is that we all vote. Apparently it's harder than you think.

Also, did you know that there are monsters under your bed? They're horrifying creatures - all teeth and claws - and they're going to eat you when you go to sleep. I'm convinced of it. So that means even though you've never seen them, they must be there.


He's a troll account, dude. And one of the worst kinds of ones; he intentionally posts stupid crap for the sole purpose of his main / alt account to post smart/snarky things in response.

Also, you're now a prime suspect of being his alt account.
 
2012-11-08 03:09:53 PM

pxsteel: Really, are you that naive.


This isn't evidence. Dream big.
 
2012-11-08 03:10:58 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.

[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.


Most states do not require any proof of citizenship to register or vote.
 
2012-11-08 03:27:52 PM

pxsteel: Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.

[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.

Most states do not require any proof of citizenship to register or vote.


If, as you say, you can write down whatever name you want on a registration form and it won't be checked for citizenship or residence at any point by any one, why don't you go ahead and do it, and then come back and tell us how it went?
 
2012-11-08 03:57:52 PM

qorkfiend: pxsteel: Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.

[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.

Most states do not require any proof of citizenship to register or vote.

If, as you say, you can write down whatever name you want on a registration form and it won't be checked for citizenship or residence at any point by any one, why don't you go ahead and do it, and then come back and tell us how it went?


My brother in law (my wifes sister's husband) is an illegal. He had gone to Mexico to visit his mother who was in the hospital. When he returned I went with my sister in law to pay off the coyotes and pick him up.

He voted. he has a half dozen freinds that are around regularly. They are all illegal and they all voted. And I live in a state that has some regulations.
 
2012-11-08 04:18:02 PM

pxsteel: qorkfiend: pxsteel: Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.

[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.

Most states do not require any proof of citizenship to register or vote.

If, as you say, you can write down whatever name you want on a registration form and it won't be checked for citizenship or residence at any point by any one, why don't you go ahead and do it, and then come back and tell us how it went?

My brother in law (my wifes sister's husband) is an illegal. He had gone to Mexico to visit his mother who was in the hospital. When he returned I went with my sister in law to pay off the coyotes and pick him up.

He voted. he has a half dozen freinds that are around regularly. They are all illegal and they all voted. And I live in a state that has some regulations.


A couple of years ago he fell asleep at the wheel and rolled their van about a half mile from their house. Everything they have house, cars, insurance, registration is in her name, because he is an illegal. The local cops issued him citations for no DL and failure to stop. Since no one was hurt, they let him just walk home.

The authrities at nearly every level doesn't do or say anything, why, because they don't want to be labled racist or have law suits filed against them
 
2012-11-08 04:20:25 PM

pxsteel: My brother in law (my wifes sister's husband) is an illegal. He had gone to Mexico to visit his mother who was in the hospital. When he returned I went with my sister in law to pay off the coyotes and pick him up.

He voted. he has a half dozen freinds that are around regularly. They are all illegal and they all voted. And I live in a state that has some regulations.


So...what you're really telling us is, you:

1. knowingly aided and abetted human trafficking
2. are harboring someone you know to be a felon, thereby making yourself a felon as well

And that's just what you've admitted in this one thread! Who knows what other deeds of evil lie in your checkered past? Why, you probably paid him to vote for Romney. Didn't you.
 
2012-11-08 04:24:42 PM

pxsteel: A couple of years ago he fell asleep at the wheel and rolled their van about a half mile from their house. Everything they have house, cars, insurance, registration is in her name, because he is an illegal. The local cops issued him citations for no DL and failure to stop. Since no one was hurt, they let him just walk home.

The authrities at nearly every level doesn't do or say anything, why, because they don't want to be labled racist or have law suits filed against them


I'd be surprised if white guys in similar situations were treated worse. Are you saying that if, say, I had been in the same accident, I'd have gotten arrested?

Local law can't bust him or take him in just for being an illegal - that's the Feds' job (remember the controversies over Arizona SB 1070?) If we want the good bits of federalism, we have to take the bad (e.g. the Electoral College).
 
2012-11-08 05:18:14 PM

whistleridge: pxsteel: My brother in law (my wifes sister's husband) is an illegal. He had gone to Mexico to visit his mother who was in the hospital. When he returned I went with my sister in law to pay off the coyotes and pick him up.

He voted. he has a half dozen freinds that are around regularly. They are all illegal and they all voted. And I live in a state that has some regulations.

So...what you're really telling us is, you:

1. knowingly aided and abetted human trafficking


Yep

2. are harboring someone you know to be a felon, thereby making yourself a felon as well

That too

The patriarch of my family, my mother in law, was very clear. No matter my or my wife's thoughts on the matter. I would do what made her oldest daughter happy.
 
2012-11-08 05:40:37 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: A couple of years ago he fell asleep at the wheel and rolled their van about a half mile from their house. Everything they have house, cars, insurance, registration is in her name, because he is an illegal. The local cops issued him citations for no DL and failure to stop. Since no one was hurt, they let him just walk home.

The authrities at nearly every level doesn't do or say anything, why, because they don't want to be labled racist or have law suits filed against them

I'd be surprised if white guys in similar situations were treated worse. Are you saying that if, say, I had been in the same accident, I'd have gotten arrested?


I have been arrested for a heck of a lot less.

Was walking home from the bar, left my car in the bar parking lot, simply walking down the street, got hauled in for PI
Had an out of date inspection and registration on one of my hot rod toys, not speeding or wreckless, got hauled away anyway.
 
2012-11-08 06:19:58 PM

pxsteel: Gaseous Anomaly: pxsteel: Dusk-You-n-Me: pxsteel: Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote

Without any evidence that they do, the frequency it happens is only limited by your imagination.

Really, are you that naive. You remind me of my 5 year old. A glass is broken in the house. I know I did not do it, mom said she did not do it, sweetheart, there has been no one else in the house. No matter how fervently you argue that it 'wasn't me', it was you.

I did not see it happen and there is no video, but it is not rocket science that the child did it.

[sigh]

Voter registrations are public record. Go find us a handful of registrations that belong to non-citizens.

Most states do not require any proof of citizenship to register or vote.


Fark.com requires no proof of intelligence to come here and post stupid shiat you made up.
 
2012-11-08 08:27:20 PM

Satanic_Hamster: I May Be Crazy But...: pxsteel: There is somewhere between 12-25 million illigal aliens in this country. These people should not be voting because they are not citizens. They find a way to get housing, a job, registrations for thier cars and even kickbacks from the IRS.

Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote. I know the left wing machine where I live does everything that they can to help them, because they vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats.

By God, you're right. They MUST have figured out some way to vote! Oh wait. Less than 60% of Americans can figure it out, despite nearly all of us having been born here and lived here our whole lives, and being told how important it is that we all vote. Apparently it's harder than you think.

Also, did you know that there are monsters under your bed? They're horrifying creatures - all teeth and claws - and they're going to eat you when you go to sleep. I'm convinced of it. So that means even though you've never seen them, they must be there.

He's a troll account, dude. And one of the worst kinds of ones; he intentionally posts stupid crap for the sole purpose of his main / alt account to post smart/snarky things in response.

Also, you're now a prime suspect of being his alt account.


Wait, did I just get called smart or snarky?
 
2012-11-08 08:31:46 PM

pxsteel: There is somewhere between 12-25 million illigal aliens in this country. These people should not be voting because they are not citizens. They find a way to get housing, a job, registrations for thier cars and even kickbacks from the IRS.

Does anyone truly believe that they have not figured out how to vote. I know the left wing machine where I live does everything that they can to help them, because they vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats.


And if illegal immigrants overwhelmingly voted Republican, I'm sure conservatives would still be determined to prevent them from voting, purely out of principle.

Right?

Hey, are those crickets I hear?
 
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