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(BBC)   Millions need to LEARN TO USE THE FARKING INTERNET OR GET THE FARK OFF   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 55
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2012-11-08 11:46:26 AM
This is a meme I can get behind
 
2012-11-08 11:47:53 AM
I did the first so I could do the last.
 
2012-11-08 11:48:55 AM
i.imgur.comi.imgur.com

The Duck of Digital I says.
 
2012-11-08 11:49:35 AM
Do they ask questions in threads rather than googling it themselves?

I guess I should go google that.
 
2012-11-08 11:51:44 AM
24.media.tumblr.com 

This Jen, is the internet.
 
2012-11-08 11:52:51 AM
It will start by looking at how to improve skills in the workplace.

Disable the FWD button, for starters.

Detailed explanation of what Reply All actually means, with small words and large mallets.

"Work goes on the work computer, porn goes on the porn computer."

/grad student, so all my co-workers are Net-literate
//I've absorbed most of those complaints hanging out in Fark IT support biatch-threads
 
2012-11-08 12:05:49 PM

Bondith: It will start by looking at how to improve skills in the workplace.

Disable the FWD button, for starters.

Detailed explanation of what Reply All actually means, with small words and large mallets.

"Work goes on the work computer, porn goes on the porn computer."

/grad student, so all my co-workers are Net-literate
//I've absorbed most of those complaints hanging out in Fark IT support biatch-threads


I work in support. Teaching simple terms, like what the difference between "my computer crashed" and "Internet Explorer threw a memory allocation error" is, would be a great start.

I don't mind having to explain what the difference is between an application server and a database server are (and why we need both), but when I have to explain - for the goddamn 50th time - that your being unable to log in does not mean the entire system is down, it starts making me think that computer/internet literacy is at least as important a tpoic for schooling as Home Ec or Shop are.

// didn't get Home Ec or Shop in HS
// didn't get computer literacy either, though it (along with some basic code theory) was at least an elective
// and the internet had come to my school the year before (1995)
 
2012-11-08 12:05:54 PM

Keyser_Soze_Death: [24.media.tumblr.com image 470x267] 

This Jen, is the internet.


It has no wires
 
2012-11-08 12:10:01 PM
darkdiamond.net
/obligatory
 
2012-11-08 12:11:56 PM
I don't think 90% of people know the difference between entering a URL and searching for something...
 
2012-11-08 12:12:51 PM
"Millions need to LEARN TO USE THE FARKING INTERNET OR GET THE FARK OFF"

I believe this quote comes from the drunken butter-shots lady's rant.

Sadly for her "using the internet" seems to be using google to turn up evidence that confirms what you wish were true.
 
2012-11-08 12:15:01 PM
It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.
 
2012-11-08 12:17:06 PM

The Angry Hand of God: I don't think 90% of people know the difference between entering a URL and searching for something...


My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.

/and my mother double clicks links.
/goddamnitsomuch!
 
2012-11-08 12:17:26 PM
No, no, no. The never-ending stream of people who are completely mystified by computers provides me with a stable, well-paid and mostly enjoyable job. Besides, I've come to the conclusion that no matter how much training you throw at them, 10-20 percent of the folks I work with will never, ever achieve even a rudimentary understanding of how the Internet works.
 
JFC
2012-11-08 12:18:16 PM
Subby, you brilliant bastard...
 
2012-11-08 12:18:30 PM

Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.


Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.
 
2012-11-08 12:19:22 PM
So the people in the UK are the same as everywhere else?

There will always be a majority of users that don't know how to clear their cookies or defrag their computers or... I am fairly computer literate, like computers and the internet and can poke about my computers inner workings and solve most basic problems, although at times I know just enough to be dangerous...
 
2012-11-08 12:25:15 PM

abhorrent1: The Angry Hand of God: I don't think 90% of people know the difference between entering a URL and searching for something...

My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.

/and my mother double clicks links.
/goddamnitsomuch!


My ex used to do this. The first 100 times I tried correcting her. After that I gave up.
 
2012-11-08 12:30:20 PM

The Angry Hand of God: abhorrent1: The Angry Hand of God: I don't think 90% of people know the difference between entering a URL and searching for something...

My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.

/and my mother double clicks links.
/goddamnitsomuch!

My ex used to do this. The first 100 times I tried correcting her. After that I gave up.


I've tried and given up as well.

Me: why don't you just type it in the address bar?
Her: this is just easier
Me: facepalm
 
2012-11-08 12:33:21 PM

olapbill: I did the first so I could do the last.


You kids and your fancy interdoohicky. In my day, we had to sneak a peek at our father's stash.

/adjusts onion
 
2012-11-08 12:37:35 PM

abhorrent1: The Angry Hand of God: abhorrent1: The Angry Hand of God: I don't think 90% of people know the difference between entering a URL and searching for something...

My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.

/and my mother double clicks links.
/goddamnitsomuch!

My ex used to do this. The first 100 times I tried correcting her. After that I gave up.

I've tried and given up as well.

Me: why don't you just type it in the address bar?
Her: this is just easier
Me: facepalm


So, you guys are ____ing my mom?
 
2012-11-08 12:40:44 PM
 
2012-11-08 12:46:21 PM

abhorrent1: Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.

Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.


I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.
 
2012-11-08 12:48:10 PM
I like the idiot buffer on the nets. It keeps me safer. I figure that if everyone started getting all tech savvy then hackers and spammers and the various other cyber criminals would start coming out with more clever techniques to get people. As it is, I only have to follow basic safety procedures to protect myself. The cyber criminals don't need to even beat the basic procedures because there are enough people who don't even use those.

I suppose it's kind of like the whole 'I don't need to outrun the angry bear, I just need to outrun you' philosophy. Just stay ahead of the slow people and you are safe from harm.
 
2012-11-08 12:52:41 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Keyser_Soze_Death: [24.media.tumblr.com image 470x267] 

This Jen, is the internet.

It has no wires


It's wireless!
 
2012-11-08 12:59:35 PM
i1136.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 12:59:53 PM

D1551D3N7: I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.


Well, duh, of COURSE teenagers would know.

For other of us old people who don't already know, that's "text" for "DONUTS", e.g. "I 8 DOS 4 BKFST LOL!"

/Dang whippersnappers think we're ignorant.
 
2012-11-08 01:02:10 PM
I came to computers as an adult, after I started college in my 30's and I had quite the high time figuring them out even with computer classes. In my first few forays onto the www I literally got lost on the internet, called a tech over and told him, "I have no idea where I am or how to get back to the beginning." He didn't laugh in my face, but did show me the 'back' button and how to use the drop down box on favorites.

I honestly have no idea how the computer lab survived me and my first fumbling attempts to use computers, no idea how many times I had to call a tech over and was asked, "What did you do?" or "Wait computers don't do that, how?!?" My standard answer was," I have no idea..."

After a few months into my first semester I was approached by two techs after going into the computer lab, they informed me that as I had to call on them SO often that they had all decided that I had to sit near the tech desk...
 
2012-11-08 01:09:16 PM
No! I don't care what kinds of crap I have to deal with from the computer illiterate. Keep them as ignorant as possible. The dumber they are, the smarter I am by comparison and the more money I can bilk them for. Please, wont somebody think of the bilking?!
 
2012-11-08 01:11:18 PM

abhorrent1: My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.


what about when i put it in the search portion of the tool bar? (or am i going to get shiat for using the google tool bar)
 
2012-11-08 01:15:20 PM

D1551D3N7: abhorrent1: Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.

Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.

I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.


aw hell, im in my late twenties and i cant remember what it is without googling it.... im sure i used to know it at some point

question, since it is a DISC operating system, isnt it an antiquated term with the hard drives and the chips and the doohickies and what not?

/wow, i never really considered how ignorant i was about how computers work until now
 
2012-11-08 01:24:21 PM

Vexed Thespian: D1551D3N7: abhorrent1: Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.

Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.

I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.

aw hell, im in my late twenties and i cant remember what it is without googling it.... im sure i used to know it at some point

question, since it is a DISC operating system, isnt it an antiquated term with the hard drives and the chips and the doohickies and what not?

/wow, i never really considered how ignorant i was about how computers work until now


"Hard drive" is the colloquial shortened form of "hard disk drive". It's "hard" because it's (or used to be) tied to the system; you'd have to shut the system down to remove a hard disk. "Soft" (or later, "floppy") disks were removable media with a hardware interface (the drive).

Disk = storage
Drive = the hardware that connects the data on the drive with the OS
 
2012-11-08 01:28:24 PM

Dr Dreidel: Vexed Thespian: D1551D3N7: abhorrent1: Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.

Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.

I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.

aw hell, im in my late twenties and i cant remember what it is without googling it.... im sure i used to know it at some point

question, since it is a DISC operating system, isnt it an antiquated term with the hard drives and the chips and the doohickies and what not?

/wow, i never really considered how ignorant i was about how computers work until now

"Hard drive" is the colloquial shortened form of "hard disk drive". It's "hard" because it's (or used to be) tied to the system; you'd have to shut the system down to remove a hard disk. "Soft" (or later, "floppy") disks were removable media with a hardware interface (the drive).

Disk = storage
Drive = the hardware that connects the data on the drive with the OS


So a little buffering and a disk becomes a drive?
 
2012-11-08 01:42:58 PM
I'm reminded of those articles explaining why "Facebook login" is such a popular Google search term.
 
2012-11-08 01:43:30 PM

Vexed Thespian: D1551D3N7: abhorrent1: Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.

Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.

I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.

aw hell, im in my late twenties and i cant remember what it is without googling it.... im sure i used to know it at some point

question, since it is a DISC operating system, isnt it an antiquated term with the hard drives and the chips and the doohickies and what not?

/wow, i never really considered how ignorant i was about how computers work until now


I'm in my mid twenties and I used DOS as a kid.

/Deltree c:\*.* /s /y
 
2012-11-08 01:58:51 PM

Vash's Apprentice: Dr Dreidel: Vexed Thespian: D1551D3N7: abhorrent1: Roto-Rot: It takes time to learn. On my first day at University in 1990 I asked a guy (who kind of looked like Robert Smith from the Cure) what DOS was, and he gave me a look of horror mixed with pity.

Ask any teenager today what DOS is and they'll look at you like you have two heads. The circle is complete.

I'm an teenager and I know what DOS is. I don't think I represent the average though.

aw hell, im in my late twenties and i cant remember what it is without googling it.... im sure i used to know it at some point

question, since it is a DISC operating system, isnt it an antiquated term with the hard drives and the chips and the doohickies and what not?

/wow, i never really considered how ignorant i was about how computers work until now

"Hard drive" is the colloquial shortened form of "hard disk drive". It's "hard" because it's (or used to be) tied to the system; you'd have to shut the system down to remove a hard disk. "Soft" (or later, "floppy") disks were removable media with a hardware interface (the drive).

Disk = storage
Drive = the hardware that connects the data on the drive with the OS

So a little buffering and a disk becomes a drive?


That's how I understand it. It's also a bit of a simplification.

The "drive" part encompasses both software and hardware layers used to run the drive (e.g. spin the platters, move the reader arm) and access data (i.e. sending to and receiving from the OS). The "disk" refers to the storage space itself (including the storage format).

It's a little confusing, especially when you think about an external HDD - the internal drive is still an HDD (drive+disk), and the enclosure is also a drive.
 
2012-11-08 02:02:04 PM

Vexed Thespian: abhorrent1: My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.

what about when i put it in the search portion of the tool bar? (or am i going to get shiat for using the google tool bar)


I still use and like the google toolbar. Entering it in the tool bar search box just directs to the page so it's basically the same as putting it in the address bar.
The google home page does not. She doesn't use the toolbar either.
 
2012-11-08 02:35:19 PM

Bondith: It will start by looking at how to improve skills in the workplace.

Disable the FWD button, for starters.

Detailed explanation of what Reply All actually means, with small words and large mallets.

"Work goes on the work computer, porn goes on the porn computer."

/grad student, so all my co-workers are Net-literate
//I've absorbed most of those complaints hanging out in Fark IT support biatch-threads


Reply to All should be default behavior. The only reason I can see for not using it is when someone doesn't know how to use BCC for large lists
 
2012-11-08 03:13:22 PM
""Once people have found something relevant to them online and have discovered the power of the internet, their skills become quite sophisticated," she said."

Porn. Once people discovered porn, they became internet geniuses.
 
2012-11-08 03:15:12 PM

abhorrent1: The Angry Hand of God: I don't think 90% of people know the difference between entering a URL and searching for something...

My wife will put "Amazon.com" in google instead of just typing it the address bar. Makes my farking head explode.

/and my mother double clicks links.
/goddamnitsomuch!


One of my coworkers will single-click an item on his desktop and then hit enter to open the application. He does this VERY SLOWLY.
 
2012-11-08 03:30:32 PM
My parents both have master's degrees. Watching either one of them try to Google something is like watching a car wreck in slow motion. They will type in every single term EXCEPT what they're looking for.
 
2012-11-08 03:38:52 PM
It took me a year to learn to use computers
 
2012-11-08 04:19:33 PM
So they have an internet illiteracy problem and their solution is to appoint a broad to fix it?
 
2012-11-08 04:42:27 PM
The internet? I find myself explaining how time works to people! I've sat in a meeting and had to explain that although we built the auditing feature they wanted, it will only start auditing now, and cannot have started auditing since before we conceived it.

I have had to explain the difference between the TO: and CC: fields and what they each indicate.

I have had to explain very, very basic concepts about how work is assigned, how to let someone know you're finished with something, or why planning is important. All to grown adults who have graduated college, who are at work getting paid. I wish I remembered all the "duh!" moments I've had throughout my career, but I think I've blocked them out to protect my sanity.

People are stupid.
 
2012-11-08 04:54:00 PM

006deluxe: One of my coworkers will single-click an item on his desktop and then hit enter to open the application. He does this VERY SLOWLY.


I don't even know him and that makes me want to stab someone.
 
2012-11-08 05:36:07 PM

HairBolus: "Millions need to LEARN TO USE THE FARKING INTERNET OR GET THE FARK OFF"

I believe this quote comes from the drunken butter-shots lady's rant.

Sadly for her "using the internet" seems to be using google to turn up evidence that confirms what you wish were true.


Study it out.
 
2012-11-08 07:49:44 PM

mccallcl: The internet? I find myself explaining how time works to people! I've sat in a meeting and had to explain that although we built the auditing feature they wanted, it will only start auditing now, and cannot have started auditing since before we conceived it.

I have had to explain the difference between the TO: and CC: fields and what they each indicate.

I have had to explain very, very basic concepts about how work is assigned, how to let someone know you're finished with something, or why planning is important. All to grown adults who have graduated college, who are at work getting paid. I wish I remembered all the "duh!" moments I've had throughout my career, but I think I've blocked them out to protect my sanity.

People are stupid.


My favorite help desk ticket of all time was this one lady who found a "showstopping" bug in our application: it wouldn't allow her to select February 30th as a date.

"But it lets me do it for every other month!"

It got out of control when she actually convinced upper management that I was stonewalling her.

I told them to take it up with the Pope and closed the ticket.
 
2012-11-08 08:43:55 PM

mccallcl: The internet? I find myself explaining how time works to people! I've sat in a meeting and had to explain that although we built the auditing feature they wanted, it will only start auditing now, and cannot have started auditing since before we conceived it.

I have had to explain the difference between the TO: and CC: fields and what they each indicate.

I have had to explain very, very basic concepts about how work is assigned, how to let someone know you're finished with something, or why planning is important. All to grown adults who have graduated college, who are at work getting paid. I wish I remembered all the "duh!" moments I've had throughout my career, but I think I've blocked them out to protect my sanity.

People are stupid.


This is one of the best posts i've ever read on the entire g-damn internet. I think I love you. I wish I had an award I could hand you right now, in front of an audience that understands and appreciates your words, and applauds like madmen who just escaped the sanitarium on a sunny warm day. You deserve a convertible with a case of your favorite beverage in the trunk.
 
2012-11-08 10:55:22 PM
Had a client I was creating email addresses for. His email workflow was mind-blowing:

1) All emails come to his secretary's computer
2) She reads them and prints off the ones he'll need
3) He handwrites replies (!!!)
4) She types replies into email and sends them

Amazing.

I've also set up email for people where they go to mail.something.com to log in. Numerous times, people would call to say their email wasn't working because they couldn't find where to log in. They were Googling the URL instead of typing it in!!!
 
2012-11-08 11:26:15 PM
Currently I am dealing with upper management thinking that excel spreadsheets are databases.

I tried pivot tables, but I saw blank stares and heard crickets chirping.
 
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