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(CBC)   Alas, poor Skype. I knew him, Messenger; a chat program of jest, of most excellent fancy and cat pictures   (cbc.ca) divider line 48
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2012-11-08 11:46:51 AM  
Fantastic. Replacing a crappy IM service with one that's part of a voip client that constantly tries to install browser plugins without asking first, and is so well-engineered that the option labeled "push to talk" does the exact opposite of what it says.

I'm starting to think Mr. Gates must have founded Microsoft by making a deal with the devil: in exchange for massive market dominance spanning decades, they are forever cursed to release two bad products for every good one (and have the good ones called bad anyway just because they're from Microsoft).
 
2012-11-08 11:54:01 AM  
This is potentially kind of nice if they adequately integrate it for AD users.
 
2012-11-08 11:56:28 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This is potentially kind of nice if they adequately integrate it for AD users.


It will integrate with Lync in the future most likely.
 
2012-11-08 12:02:05 PM  

optimistic_cynic: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This is potentially kind of nice if they adequately integrate it for AD users.

It will integrate with Lync in the future most likely.


That'd be nice. We're looking at potentially moving to Office 365 (and by "we" I say another group that decides such things), but I'd really be happy if we had something much more integrated than what we have now.
 
2012-11-08 12:09:20 PM  
You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."
 
2012-11-08 01:22:02 PM  

Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."


Yeah, I thought that too, but, well, it's pretty common for people to mess up that particular line.
 
2012-11-08 01:52:31 PM  
I have to use Skype at work. Good god for a chat program it eats a ton of memory and CPU cycles, even when just running in the tray. Even Messenger uses about 25% of the resources or Skype.
 
2012-11-08 02:11:40 PM  

ShawnDoc: I have to use Skype at work. Good god for a chat program it eats a ton of memory and CPU cycles, even when just running in the tray. Even Messenger uses about 25% of the resources or Skype.


Unless you're running low on memory or have no idle CPU time, eh. Free system resources are wasted system resources.
 
2012-11-08 02:27:18 PM  
If you're going to quote Babylon 5, at least pick a quote from one of the first 4 seasons.
 
2012-11-08 02:40:30 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Unless you're running low on memory or have no idle CPU time, eh. Free system resources are wasted system resources.


Not true. Most modern processors adjust power usage based on demand.
 
2012-11-08 03:21:22 PM  

Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."


ditto.
 
2012-11-08 03:24:23 PM  

SpaceButler: so well-engineered that the option labeled "push to talk" does the exact opposite of what it says.


That's why I like full-QSK break-in.
 
2012-11-08 03:25:22 PM  
No you didn't, move on!

/might actually be obscure
 
2012-11-08 03:26:00 PM  
wtf, how will I log into my parents' computer to fix it now??
 
2012-11-08 03:26:16 PM  
I thought that they killed messenger when they brought out Lync... huh...
 
2012-11-08 03:30:35 PM  

Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."


Agreed, but I like where his head was at.
Agreed, but I like the point at which his head was.
(Trying to get out of the habit of ending sentences in prepositions.)
 
2012-11-08 03:32:39 PM  
well this sucks balls.. i and about 30 friends use messenger all day.... bah
 
2012-11-08 03:35:01 PM  
This thread needs more img525.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-08 03:45:26 PM  

p4p3rm4t3: This thread needs more [img525.imageshack.us image 297x188]


Your picture has a disturbing lack of boobs or bacon
 
2012-11-08 03:46:36 PM  

sure haven't: wtf, how will I log into my parents' computer to fix it now??


Team Viewer, Crossloop
 
2012-11-08 03:47:56 PM  

ITGreen: Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."

Agreed, but I like where his head was at.
Agreed, but I like the point at which his head was.
(Trying to get out of the habit of ending sentences in prepositions.)


Don't. It's not a rule of English at all and your first sentence was much less cumbersome.
 
2012-11-08 04:01:52 PM  
Can't say I used Messenger often, but I have had to use Skype fo ra few things and I hate it. Farks with my mic setup, and the apparent lack of true push-to-talk functionality (correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't look too hard) coupled with the auto-muting of my mic, isn't something that I enjoy.
 
2012-11-08 04:07:47 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: ShawnDoc: I have to use Skype at work. Good god for a chat program it eats a ton of memory and CPU cycles, even when just running in the tray. Even Messenger uses about 25% of the resources or Skype.

Unless you're running low on memory or have no idle CPU time, eh. Free system resources are wasted system resources.


You're thinking about Android (possibly Linux). Windows follows a different model.
 
2012-11-08 04:15:57 PM  
Time to revive my AOL or Yahoo IMs? Are those services even active?
 
2012-11-08 04:32:51 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: Can't say I used Messenger often, but I have had to use Skype fo ra few things and I hate it. Farks with my mic setup, and the apparent lack of true push-to-talk functionality (correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't look too hard) coupled with the auto-muting of my mic, isn't something that I enjoy.


I thought I was the only one.

I've used Skype for some time, mostly to call friends and relatives in the States, but more and more I've been using the G Chat client for that sort of thing, keeping Skype around only for my parents, who aren't computer savvy enough to get away from their phones.
 
2012-11-08 04:35:15 PM  

Odd Bird: Time to revive my AOL or Yahoo IMs? Are those services even active?


I use Yahoo IM to talk while gaming with my friend.
Seems to work well.
 
2012-11-08 04:37:09 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."

Yeah, I thought that too, but, well, it's pretty common for people to mess up that particular line.


It doesn't translate to English well from the original Klingon.
 
2012-11-08 04:48:53 PM  
I like to use Chat Roulette for my business meetings. It's a lot more interesting that way.
 
2012-11-08 05:32:04 PM  

SpaceButler: ... they are forever cursed to release two bad products for every good one (and have the good ones called bad anyway just because they're from Microsoft).

languish in un-supported, un-marketed obscurity until Microsoft quietly euthanizes them.

/Windows Home Server early adopter
 
2012-11-08 05:34:25 PM  

Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."


You muffed what could have been a funny headline subs.
 
2012-11-08 06:08:18 PM  

EddyKilowatt: SpaceButler: ... they are forever cursed to release two bad products for every good one (and have the good ones called bad anyway just because they're from Microsoft).languish in un-supported, un-marketed obscurity until Microsoft quietly euthanizes them.

/Windows Home Server early adopter


Oh, be fair, they don't ALL get euthanized. C# and .NET are still going strong, so that's, like, two whole counterexamples. And if you'll accept small command-line utilities I can even think of a third!
 
2012-11-08 06:45:53 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Odd Bird: Time to revive my AOL or Yahoo IMs? Are those services even active?

I use Yahoo IM to talk while gaming with my friend.
Seems to work well.


i prefer mumble for that sort of thing. can be difficult to set up for the average luser though.
 
2012-11-08 07:27:32 PM  
Even with a multi-network client like Pidgin, if you still have friends on Skype then you still need to have the client installed. With the recent Skype update I have actually ditched Pidgin entirely (it was very crashy on my laptop for some reason), so it's just Skype and GTalk now. As far is I can tell, it's the same client but my MSN contacts show up there now. Memory is no longer a scarce resource, as long as the client is not eating up a bunch of processor time or leaking memory, who cares if it uses (currently) 65MB.
 
2012-11-08 07:32:39 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."

Yeah, I thought that too, but, well, it's pretty common for people to mess up that particular line.


Still no excuse. Now go get the fuel oil and torches while I gather the pitchforks.
 
2012-11-08 08:10:19 PM  
I hope they still continue to release Skype updates for the Linux client.
 
2012-11-08 09:04:34 PM  
Did they ever fix the Mac version of Skype? Last time I tried it, the program somehow managed to suck down 100% of my CPU every time I did a video chat.
 
2012-11-08 09:18:46 PM  
Oh for farks sake. Skype really irks me. Currently using Pidgin, but I'm assuming I'm going to have to move to Skype.
 
2012-11-08 09:30:42 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: optimistic_cynic: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This is potentially kind of nice if they adequately integrate it for AD users.

It will integrate with Lync in the future most likely.

That'd be nice. We're looking at potentially moving to Office 365 (and by "we" I say another group that decides such things), but I'd really be happy if we had something much more integrated than what we have now.


I be happy if they could just fix the awful screen sharing and control features in Lync. Really by now it should be able to handle a UAC popup remotely like every other similar software can do and some way to control the damn screen resolution when two monitors are shared at the same time.

At least I guess it can send text messages and the audio is okay, but really I hate the half done screen sharing feature. Strangely enough it does video fine right now, so of course that is what they want to change by integrating skype.

Oh and they really need a better tablet/phone app. It fine to send a text message but can do nothing else.
 
2012-11-08 09:57:56 PM  

Odd Bird: Time to revive my AOL or Yahoo IMs? Are those services even active?


yep on both
 
2012-11-08 10:29:23 PM  

limeyfellow: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: optimistic_cynic: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This is potentially kind of nice if they adequately integrate it for AD users.

It will integrate with Lync in the future most likely.

That'd be nice. We're looking at potentially moving to Office 365 (and by "we" I say another group that decides such things), but I'd really be happy if we had something much more integrated than what we have now.

I be happy if they could just fix the awful screen sharing and control features in Lync. Really by now it should be able to handle a UAC popup remotely like every other similar software can do and some way to control the damn screen resolution when two monitors are shared at the same time.

At least I guess it can send text messages and the audio is okay, but really I hate the half done screen sharing feature. Strangely enough it does video fine right now, so of course that is what they want to change by integrating skype.

Oh and they really need a better tablet/phone app. It fine to send a text message but can do nothing else.


It isn't/wasn't any good in SCCM or SMS, either. We use SCCM for inventory and software deployment still, but we moved to Dameware Mini Remote Control for remote assistance because the MS tools just aren't any good on an Enterprise level.
 
2012-11-08 11:03:03 PM  

MrEricSir: Did they ever fix the Mac version of Skype? Last time I tried it, the program somehow managed to suck down 100% of my CPU every time I did a video chat.


I don't have that problem with Skype. Lync for Mac on the other hand, does all the video on the CPU (I used Skype to prove it was a problem with Lync too).
 
2012-11-09 12:36:07 AM  
Skype's designers don't seem to understand that people don't want their chat clients to be full-screen. A tiny window in the corner works just fine for staying in touch while doing real work.

MSN Messenger's designers are irrelevant, as everyone who uses the service does so via an all-in-one client like Pidgin or Adium.
 
2012-11-09 02:33:04 AM  

poot_rootbeer: Skype's designers don't seem to understand that people don't want their chat clients to be full-screen. A tiny window in the corner works just fine for staying in touch while doing real work.

MSN Messenger's designers are irrelevant, as everyone who uses the service does so via an all-in-one client like Pidgin or Adium.


It does that. I was checking movie times online while Skyping with my friend in China earlier today, and the video chat window automatically shrunk to a small window on the upper-right corner.
 
2012-11-09 06:14:29 AM  

Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."


Just came to post this and to say that now M$ has skype in it`s clutches I won`t be using that either.
 
2012-11-09 08:25:45 AM  

dready zim: Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."

Just came to post this and to say that now M$ has skype in it`s clutches I won`t be using that either.


Oh, yeah. Because Skype was sooooooo much better before Microsoft got a hold of it.
 
2012-11-09 09:24:27 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: p4p3rm4t3: This thread needs more [img525.imageshack.us image 297x188]

Your picture has a disturbing lack of boobs or bacon


Her hair is a helicopter; your argument is irrelevant
 
2012-11-09 09:33:39 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."

Yeah, I thought that too, but, well, it's pretty common for people to mess up that particular line.


Yeah, I was up for 30 hours when I submitted this. I had it right the first time but second guessed myself because I was so tired.

Surool: Lando Lincoln: You farked up that headline, by the way.

It should be, "Alas, poor Messenger. I knew him, Skype."

You muffed what could have been a funny headline subs.


You'll get over it.
 
2012-11-10 03:20:55 AM  
Yeah, this was a good day for me to discover IMO.
 
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