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2012-11-08 09:49:40 AM
My wife handles Lunch and Dinner, and I handle breakfast.

Homemade Biscuits and Gravy. Pancakes, Waffles. Fry up some bacon from the family farm, poach some eggs, toast some homemade bread and spread some homemade strawberry jam over it...and don't forget the fresh brewed coffee (Use a french press).

I make sure I eat breakfast. I can skip lunch and dinner (I try not to) but I have never skipped breakfast.

/damnit, I'm starving now.
 
2012-11-08 09:50:16 AM

IAmRight: MycroftHolmes: If you figure the average person eats 2.5 meals a day, 202 is only one fifth of their meals. So the stat is not that crazy as it sounds

Especially when you consider a lot of people eat at a restaurant at lunch when they're working.


At one of my last jobs, our meetings and special occasions tended to happen at buffets.

/why yes, we were all fat, why do you ask?
 
2012-11-08 09:50:53 AM

Carth: If you know how to cook eating out gets really boring unless you're going to very high end restaurants. Too many places just reheat food or try and charge $20 for a plate of pasta and shrimp.


This. The better you get as a cook, the fewer restaurants there are that make acceptible food. Olive Garden, Ruby Tuesday's, TGI Fridays, Applebees, etc. are not were people who like food eat. They are where people who like to eat eat. Here in New England, the non-chain restaurants are hit or miss unless you go somewhere competitive in a specific genre (North End in Boston, Federal Hill in Providence, Wollaston Beach in Quincy, etc.), so when I do eat out, I choose a non-chain. Better to not know that you will get a good meal than be sure you are going to get a bad one.
 
2012-11-08 09:52:18 AM
As of Tuesday we have changed from once per week to once per month. My trickle down to restaurant workers goes down 75%.
 
2012-11-08 09:53:13 AM
Well apparently one year too old to be a millenial. Which may explain why I eat supper (not dinner, that can be lunch!) out about twice a month. Pretty sure they're counting breakfast and dinner, and yes, even vending machines, because hey, you aren't eating at home, therefore you must be eating OUT.

As others mentioned, going out to eat isn't all about the food. Yes, I can cook very well. But so can some professionals, and it's as much, if not more, about the ambiance as the food. Dining out is an experience, not just a chance to shove food down your gullet.
 
2012-11-08 09:54:11 AM
4 times a week, 2.5 average meals a week, 60% of Americans eat breakfast at McDonald's, and a lot of folks will go out to get lunch.

Hm. Just throwing some stats around.
 
2012-11-08 09:55:44 AM
One time a week LESS, subby.
 
2012-11-08 09:56:45 AM

Tommy Moo: "Millennials will eat out 202 times annually this year vs. 252 times a year for their age group back in 2007."

What? Is this serious? Are they counting swinging by Dunkin Donuts for a coffee on the way to work? I seriously sit down in a restaurant and order something to eat maybe twice a month. Who eats a full, sit-down meal almost every day? I don't even know rich people who do that.


They probably count ANY food not pre-prepared. One cheeseburger for lunch, donuts ect.
 
2012-11-08 09:57:30 AM

dustygrimp: Carth: If you know how to cook eating out gets really boring unless you're going to very high end restaurants. Too many places just reheat food or try and charge $20 for a plate of pasta and shrimp.

This. The better you get as a cook, the fewer restaurants there are that make acceptible food. Olive Garden, Ruby Tuesday's, TGI Fridays, Applebees, etc. are not were people who like food eat. They are where people who like to eat eat. Here in New England, the non-chain restaurants are hit or miss unless you go somewhere competitive in a specific genre (North End in Boston, Federal Hill in Providence, Wollaston Beach in Quincy, etc.), so when I do eat out, I choose a non-chain. Better to not know that you will get a good meal than be sure you are going to get a bad one.


The chain's design their food not to offends, so they avoid flavor. Fast food is designed to taste good at the lowest cost, so it is very salty and fatty. High end restaurents can spend money to get good ingredients and good chefs to make the food taste good without being just salt and fat.

That being said, there are whole cadres of ethnic and specialty restaurants that are both very good and not very expensive. The amount of decent Vietnamese, Mexican, Indian, Ethiopian, etc. food that I can get for under $10 is significant.

If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.
 
2012-11-08 09:57:49 AM
How selfish!

Will no one think of the restaurants?
 
2012-11-08 09:59:19 AM
www.tdtmag.net

"Times is hard...."
 
2012-11-08 10:02:32 AM

Tommy Moo: "Millennials will eat out 202 times annually this year vs. 252 times a year for their age group back in 2007."

What? Is this serious? Are they counting swinging by Dunkin Donuts for a coffee on the way to work? I seriously sit down in a restaurant and order something to eat maybe twice a month. Who eats a full, sit-down meal almost every day? I don't even know rich people who do that.


Ah. So clearly subby meant 1x less per week. Meaning they were eating out 5x / week five years ago. That's half a ten. And that's awful.
 
2012-11-08 10:05:27 AM

MycroftHolmes: High end restaurents can spend money to get good ingredients and good chefs to make the food taste good without being just salt and fat.


Although it almost always is high fat and high salt, because they taste good.
 
2012-11-08 10:07:30 AM

doczoidberg: I can't seem to stay away from the Old Country Buffet lately.

I really don't know why. Been going there for lunch, like, every day.

Does that count as fine dining?


Only if you have pudding.
 
2012-11-08 10:07:38 AM

MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.


A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.
 
2012-11-08 10:14:45 AM

kab: soakitincider: consumers will further plummet our economy into a sinkhole.

There, that's better.


do not misconstrue what i wrote; obama specifically will contribute to the downfall of our society.
 
2012-11-08 10:16:08 AM

soakitincider: do not misconstrue what i wrote; obama specifically will contribute to the downfall of our society.


Go on . . .
 
2012-11-08 10:16:16 AM

wildcardjack: Joe Blowme: Propain_az: President Obama will get this economy going, and then they will be able to afford to eat out whenever and where ever they like.

HAHHAHAHAA... maybe the restaurants will start taking food stamps

Some fast food joints do.


No, they don't.
 
2012-11-08 10:19:09 AM

Public Savant: The millenial generation is too young to perform cunnilingus just yet.

/DNRTFA


they do it, they're just not any good at it. which is why their sisters, girlfriends and wives are into banging old dudes on the lowdown.
 
2012-11-08 10:20:43 AM

Pokey.Clyde: wildcardjack: Joe Blowme: Propain_az: President Obama will get this economy going, and then they will be able to afford to eat out whenever and where ever they like.

HAHHAHAHAA... maybe the restaurants will start taking food stamps

Some fast food joints do.

No, they don't.


Actually, yes, they do.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/09/fast-food-chains-getting - into-the-food-stamp-act/
 
2012-11-08 10:24:07 AM

Carth: If you know how to cook eating out gets really boring unless you're going to very high end restaurants. Too many places just reheat food or try and charge $20 for a plate of pasta and shrimp.


Or maybe some of us like to eat ethnic foods that we have no idea to prepare at home?

\thanks, English ancestors.
 
2012-11-08 10:26:03 AM
I try to eat the lady out at least 3x a week.
 
2012-11-08 10:28:43 AM

Joe Blowme: Propain_az: President Obama will get this economy going, and then they will be able to afford to eat out whenever and where ever they like.

HAHHAHAHAA... maybe the restaurants will start taking food stamps


Jack In The Box already does.
 
2012-11-08 10:30:22 AM

Priapetic: Pokey.Clyde: wildcardjack: Joe Blowme: Propain_az: President Obama will get this economy going, and then they will be able to afford to eat out whenever and where ever they like.

HAHHAHAHAA... maybe the restaurants will start taking food stamps

Some fast food joints do.

No, they don't.

Actually, yes, they do.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/09/fast-food-chains-getting - into-the-food-stamp-act/


So those who cant afford to dont eat out so others can on our dime... nice.
 
2012-11-08 10:33:16 AM
Although you might think that the members of the Millennial Generation are soft and weak, you should know that due to the recession they've adapted to only eating out once a week

You should really work on that reading comprehension.
 
2012-11-08 10:35:41 AM

dj_spanmaster: Although you might think that the members of the Millennial Generation are soft and weak, you should know that due to the recession they've adapted to only eating out once a week

You should really work on that reading comprehension.


In his defense, this is FARK
 
2012-11-08 10:36:58 AM
I don't understand why millennials are having such a hard time getting high-paying jobs. Don't they have an unprecedented ability to utilize social media? I read in Time Magazine that that's like the job skill of the future.

Previous generations only had an unprecedented ability to play Nintendo or use a TV remote or read comic books---and for some reason, it never occurred to them to brag about this on a resume. So this generation has that going for them.
 
2012-11-08 10:39:42 AM

Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.

A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.


Considering that hole in the wall restaurants are usually cheaper to open than a Chili's or an Appleby's, I will call BS on that. I have been to the smallest of towns, and it is without exception that they have local diners or restaurants that are better than most chains. You have to look a little, and be wiling to be a little adventurous.

I will put this challenge out there (though we will never be able to test it). Within 5 miles of any Cili's, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Outback, or Hooters's, there will be at least one local or ethnic restaurent that serves good, cheaper food.
 
2012-11-08 10:42:43 AM

MycroftHolmes: Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.

A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.

Considering that hole in the wall restaurants are usually cheaper to open than a Chili's or an Appleby's, I will call BS on that. I have been to the smallest of towns, and it is without exception that they have local diners or restaurants that are better than most chains. You have to look a little, and be wiling to be a little adventurous.

I will put this challenge out there (though we will never be able to test it). Within 5 miles of any Cili's, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Outback, or Hooters's, there will be at least one local or ethnic restaurent that serves good, cheaper food.


That's about as challenging as saying "I can find water at any point within 5 miles of the ocean."
 
2012-11-08 10:45:45 AM

redmid17: MycroftHolmes: Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.

A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.

Considering that hole in the wall restaurants are usually cheaper to open than a Chili's or an Appleby's, I will call BS on that. I have been to the smallest of towns, and it is without exception that they have local diners or restaurants that are better than most chains. You have to look a little, and be wiling to be a little adventurous.

I will put this challenge out there (though we will never be able to test it). Within 5 miles of any Cili's, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Outback, or Hooters's, there will be at least one local or ethnic restaurent that serves good, cheaper food.

That's about as challenging as saying "I can find water at any point within 5 miles of the ocean."


That's my point. Anyone who says that the big chains are their only options are full of crap. There are good restaurants all over the place.
 
2012-11-08 10:49:39 AM
That's an absolute tragedy. I weep for American restaurants. How can American business continue to grow if the millennials aren't eating? HOW!?!?


/lol who gives a tiny shiat
 
2012-11-08 10:50:24 AM
It's far, far worse than that: I heard that some of them have to settle for the 8GB iPhone instead of the 16GB iPhone.

/The horror. The horror.
 
2012-11-08 10:51:30 AM
The restaurant owners are just corporate greed mongers anyhow. How dare they try to make a profit. They should burn in hell.

/amirite
 
2012-11-08 10:52:23 AM
And don't forget sushi restaurants. That's one thing I can't cook at home.
 
2012-11-08 10:54:14 AM

Tommy Moo: "Millennials will eat out 202 times annually this year vs. 252 times a year for their age group back in 2007."

What? Is this serious? Are they counting swinging by Dunkin Donuts for a coffee on the way to work? I seriously sit down in a restaurant and order something to eat maybe twice a month. Who eats a full, sit-down meal almost every day? I don't even know rich people who do that.


I presume they're including any time somebody orders food at any restaurant- so yeah, that includes picking up a donut or grabbing some other fast food- that's buying a meal at a restaurant, isn't it? I don't know if they can filter the "just grab coffee" stops out or not, you'd have to read the actual study. 

Eating out as a term isn't exclusive to a sit down dinner with waitstaff. Of course it includes fast food.
 
2012-11-08 10:54:24 AM

Tommy Moo: doczoidberg: I can't seem to stay away from the Old Country Buffet lately.

I really don't know why. Been going there for lunch, like, every day.

Does that count as fine dining?

When I was a kid, there was this video game for the Sega Genesis called Final Fight. You'd walk down the street beating people up, and every once in a while you'd punch a trash can and a roast chicken would fall out and restore your health.

Yeah... That's pretty much what the Old Country Buffet is like.


At least you could work off a few calories in the process by playing Haggar, hefting up one of the larger restaurant employees, and powerbombing them through the aforementioned trashcan.

/also, LOL for the reference
 
2012-11-08 10:54:31 AM
Makes sense to me. I thought this was outrageous until I thought about my own experience. When I worked full time, I ate lunch at fast food about 3x/week and went out with the husband 1x/week for dinner and 1x/weekend for lunch. After we decided I would stay home with the kids, we've dropped that to 1x/month for dinner and almost no fast food. ~260/year to ~20/year. I suspect higher levels of unemployment drops that average for many people in a big way.
 
2012-11-08 10:56:06 AM
Eating out should cost 5 cents.
 
2012-11-08 11:01:24 AM
Although I despise cities like they are a plague, I was in the Cherry Creek area of Denver last week. In a coffee shop (oh so tony).

Seated next to me two 20-somethings were bemoaning the economy.

"He has to what?"
"Accept a pay cut, or he won't be able to stay on."
"They can't do that."
"They did."
"How much?"
"He was making$280,000. Now he's down to $200,000."
"OMG, how will he be able to live on that?"

True story
 
2012-11-08 11:03:13 AM

MycroftHolmes: Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.

A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.

Considering that hole in the wall restaurants are usually cheaper to open than a Chili's or an Appleby's, I will call BS on that. I have been to the smallest of towns, and it is without exception that they have local diners or restaurants that are better than most chains. You have to look a little, and be wiling to be a little adventurous.

I will put this challenge out there (though we will never be able to test it). Within 5 miles of any Cili's, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Outback, or Hooters's, there will be at least one local or ethnic restaurent that serves good, cheaper food.


You know how I know you have never spent time in a small rural town? People by me don't trust ethnic food and any ethnic (except for 'Chinese' food) restaurant that opens quickly goes bankrupt. Seriously people near me think pizza is exotic.
 
2012-11-08 11:05:31 AM

Clemkadidlefark: Although I despise cities like they are a plague, I was in the Cherry Creek area of Denver last week. In a coffee shop (oh so tony).

Seated next to me two 20-somethings were bemoaning the economy.

"He has to what?"
"Accept a pay cut, or he won't be able to stay on."
"They can't do that."
"They did."
"How much?"
"He was making$280,000. Now he's down to $200,000."
"OMG, how will he be able to live on that?"

True story


You do realize that everything is relative. In many circles, making $50K a year would be looked at the same way you look at someone making $280K a year. And yes, taking a 30% pay cut will likely negatively affect your lifestyle.

Now, I know you are going to arbitrarily define a minimum standard of living and say that anything more than that is conspicuous consumption.
 
2012-11-08 11:06:04 AM

MycroftHolmes: The chain's design their food not to offends, so they avoid flavor. Fast food is designed to taste good at the lowest cost, so it is very salty and fatty. High end restaurents can spend money to get good ingredients and good chefs to make the food taste good without being just salt and fat.

That being said, there are whole cadres of ethnic and specialty restaurants that are both very good and not very expensive. The amount of decent Vietnamese, Mexican, Indian, Ethiopian, etc. food that I can get for under $10 is significant.

If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.


You can definitely get decent Mexican and various South American food here and there are good Cambodian and Thai places as well, but the number of them that are good are matched by the number that are bad.
 
2012-11-08 11:10:01 AM

dustygrimp:

You can definitely get decent Mexican and various South American food here and there are good Cambodian and Thai places as well, but the number of them that are good are matched by the number that are bad.


So you're saying you've got a 50-50 shot of getting good ethnic food in your 'hood? Sounds better than the 0% probability of getting good food at Chili's, Applebees, et al.
 
2012-11-08 11:10:06 AM

Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.

A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.

Considering that hole in the wall restaurants are usually cheaper to open than a Chili's or an Appleby's, I will call BS on that. I have been to the smallest of towns, and it is without exception that they have local diners or restaurants that are better than most chains. You have to look a little, and be wiling to be a little adventurous.

I will put this challenge out there (though we will never be able to test it). Within 5 miles of any Cili's, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Outback, or Hooters's, there will be at least one local or ethnic restaurent that serves good, cheaper food.

You know how I know you have never spent time in a small rural town? People by me don't trust ethnic food and any ethnic (except for 'Chinese' food) restaurant that opens quickly goes bankrupt. Seriously people near me think pizza is exotic.


You will note that I stated 'local or ethnic' restaurants. I have spent much time in small rural towns (here in Texas, just drive 2 hours in any direction, and you are in a small town). They almost invariably have at least one, if not more, good diners. Hell, I've driven an hour or so just to eat at some small town diners.

And those towns will very seldom support a big chain restaurant.

I will stand by my original contention, there should be no situation where you are forced to eat at a big chain due to the lack of better, usually cheaper options.
 
2012-11-08 11:10:29 AM

Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: If you stay on the beaten path, $20 a plate for a plate of pre-made food is not surprising. But it is so not necessary.

A lot of people live in areas where the only choice is 'the beaten path'.

Considering that hole in the wall restaurants are usually cheaper to open than a Chili's or an Appleby's, I will call BS on that. I have been to the smallest of towns, and it is without exception that they have local diners or restaurants that are better than most chains. You have to look a little, and be wiling to be a little adventurous.

I will put this challenge out there (though we will never be able to test it). Within 5 miles of any Cili's, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Outback, or Hooters's, there will be at least one local or ethnic restaurent that serves good, cheaper food.

You know how I know you have never spent time in a small rural town? People by me don't trust ethnic food and any ethnic (except for 'Chinese' food) restaurant that opens quickly goes bankrupt. Seriously people near me think pizza is exotic.


Oh yeah and another thing. The 'adventurous' members of this backwards region see advertisements for American chain restaurants like those that you mentioned and really want to go to them. I recently went to North Carolina for business and a local was with me. He actually asked if we could go to an olive garden if we saw it. He had seen the commercials and thought that it would be good. They actually think that those places are 'fine dining'.

Trust me I have literally heard the words "Oh I hope we can go to an Applebees on our vacation to New York!" spoken aloud without a single trace of irony.
 
2012-11-08 11:10:34 AM

Clemkadidlefark: Although I despise cities like they are a plague, I was in the Cherry Creek area of Denver last week. In a coffee shop (oh so tony).

Seated next to me two 20-somethings were bemoaning the economy.

"He has to what?"
"Accept a pay cut, or he won't be able to stay on."
"They can't do that."
"They did."
"How much?"
"He was making$280,000. Now he's down to $200,000."
"OMG, how will he be able to live on that?"

True story


And you apparently know the whole story to be able to judge him like that. If I arbitrarily took 30% of your income, how would that affect your lifestyle?
 
2012-11-08 11:10:37 AM

Propain_az: President Obama will get this economy going, and then they will be able to afford to eat out whenever and where ever they like.


Sarcasm? Too early, not enough Starbucks, not sure.

Whatever. I won't hold my breath waiting for miracles from Glorious Leader. Not when there's news like this. Link

One of our homeless friends, an out-of-work architect who has been living in his car for the last 3 years, got re-hired by his old company about 3 months ago. He has been busy socking away his salary for, as he said, just in case Obama got re-elected. Sure enough, he got two week notice yesterday. Several projects that the employer was expecting were canceled.

Be that as it may, I voted for the incumbent asshole rather than the magic underwear asshole because incumbent asshole is more likely to renew federal extensions on unemployment insurance. If they get renewed to the normal 99 weeks, I will still have another 54 weeks at $412 per week on the current claim. By then, I'm betting that businesses will be used to the new "normal" and start hiring again.

Well, maybe not here in California. The moron voters passed prop 30 and didn't pass prop 32, so the union bosses are high-fiving with the corrupt assholes in Sacramento and the cost of food (being homeless, we have to eat out, which is taxable) is going up.
 
2012-11-08 11:12:04 AM

Carth: If you know how to cook eating out gets really boring unless you're going to very high end restaurants. Too many places just reheat food or try and charge $20 for a plate of pasta and shrimp.


Agreed. We are getting very tired of Carl's sausage egg biscuits (best deal in town with 2:1 coupons).
 
2012-11-08 11:12:40 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:

One of our homeless friends, an out-of-work architect who has been living in his car for the last 3 years, got re-hired by his old company about 3 months ago. He has been busy socking away his salary for, as he said, just in case Obama got re-elected. Sure enough, he got two week notice yesterday. Several projects that the employer was expecting were canceled.

Be that as it may, I voted for the incumbent asshole rather than the magic underwear asshole because incumbent asshole is more likely to renew federal extensions on unemployment insurance. If they get renewed to the normal 99 weeks, I will still have another 54 weeks at $412 per week on the current claim. By then, I'm betting that businesses will be used to the new "normal" and start hiring again.

Well, maybe not here in California. The moron voters passed prop 30 and didn't pass prop 32, so the union bosses are high-fiving with the corrupt assholes in Sacramento and the cost of food (being homeless, we have to eat out, which is taxable) is going up.


There's a freeper among us.
 
2012-11-08 11:12:52 AM

Resident Muslim: Somewhat poor people can only afford to eat out once a week.

REALLY poor people can only afford to eat out seven times a week.

/somewhat serious
//McNutrition


More like 21 times per week.
 
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