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2012-11-08 11:00:08 AM  

graggor: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: "our own free press"

Enough said. Stopped there.

We don't have a free press.

what do you mean?


Our free press got steamrolled by the free market. "Truth" has been sold to the highest bidder.
 
2012-11-08 11:01:38 AM  

God's Hubris: CapeFearCadaver: Philip Francis Queeg: CapeFearCadaver: Bendal: CapeFearCadaver: RedEyedWings: OMG it would be Lord of the Freepers.

Starring Karl Rove as Piggy.

Limbaugh = Jack
Mittens = Roger
O'Reilly & Beck = Sam & Eric
Ryan = Simon

I have NO idea who could be Ralph.


Duh, Beohner.


Bah. Of course!
 
2012-11-08 11:01:41 AM  
This is me today to all the conservative butthurt.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-08 11:02:58 AM  

Gaseous Anomaly: CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.

FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.



How would they explain a rejection of the Bible?
 
2012-11-08 11:03:22 AM  
Wow, the butthurt is worse than I thought. Of course if you think about it for a minute; since conservatives generally resist change they feel goes against "tradition", during the American Revolution conservatives were called "loyalists". So in reality, wanting to become subjects to the crown again is American conservatism in its purest form.
 
2012-11-08 11:03:53 AM  
Coming soon to a Red State near you..... The Billion Bigot march (billion if you count the tadpoles in their balls, which of course, are precious life forms).

As prophesized by all tinfoil hatters, tho' shall it be spoken, yea shall it be done.

But on the upside, it'll be great taunting morons for 4 years.
 
2012-11-08 11:04:14 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: ATRDCI: If the Democrats want to do anything with Castro outside of San Antonio, they are going to need a ground game here anyway. While I don't live in the east coast states so take this for what its worth, but I think the necessary demographic changes are happening in much faster in Texas than they are in Georgia, the Carolinas, etc. Hell, had they sent resources here this year, Paul Sadler would have beaten Ted Cruz

McCain won Texas by less than 1 million, Romney won by about 1 million. Over the next four years, we are projected to grow by more than 2 million, and this growth statistically will vote more democrat than republican. If the next nominee has as good a ground game as Obama and makes people realize a Dem vote isn't a throw away vote, they will take Texas.

If the Dems succeed beyond their wildest dreams and take both Carolinas and Georgia in one fell swoop, they would get 40 EVs Taking a very winnable Texas gets 38.

Of course this all assumes the GOP does not moderate itself, but even if they do, its gonna take at least a generation before the Hispanics here start voting GOP in any significant numbers.

The big problem is the general ignorance of the population down here. Most of the people either have NO news or only Fox/Rush.


Yeah, but even that is, admittedly slowly, turning. After the primary debacle, Republicans actually turned on Perry. There were loads of conservative who actually didn't want to vote for Cruz. The "lets gut education for the rainy day fund" actually has people upset. Like I said, it's going to take a ground game on the level of Obama to spread the word/info, but if any group of Democrats should have excited enough/have the energy to handle it, it should be the one who has had to live in and now has the opportunity to turn Texas
 
2012-11-08 11:05:32 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: the united states is in the shiatter, and no american or british politician will do anything about it.

I disagree with you. The United States is just fine. This is not 1929, quit being a drama queen.

the united states is the opposite of fine; when you have massive debt, several wartime operations occurring, an extremely polarized nation, gross violations of the constitution (patriot act), and corruption and graft, you as a nation are not "just fine".

1. Debt is not the problem. Deficit is, but that will turn around when the economy gets better.
2. War time operations? Those are ending and then we will tone it down only to ramp it up 20 years from now.
3. Patriot Act was passed by Congress and held up by the courts. It is what it is for now. I don't agree with a random person on the internet that it is somehow unconstitutional. It's your opinion, not fact.
4. Corruption is not a factor as to whether the United States is ok. Grafting has been going on since the founders. Quit making it more than it is. We just hear about it quicker because of the internet. Correlation does not imply causation

The engine is way too big to stop now.


debt is aproblem; do you think people should live outside of their means and rack up debt on credit cards? the government should not be operating in that way either.
The wars with iraq/afghanistan, and smaller incursions like yemen have only served to strengthen the military-industrial complex, and obama is not doing anything to reduce that influence.
The patriot act is a horrible abrogation of constitutional law; on top of that obama rules through decree and not in cooperation with congress.
corruption is extremely rampant in the modern era, regardless of how long it has been going on. There have been no steps taken by obama or any politician really to end this charlatan behavior.
 
2012-11-08 11:06:11 AM  

davideggy: The more I look around at the craziness of US evangelical Christians, the more I think England might have had a good point forcing the Pilgrims out. I used to think the Catholic Church was nuts. Now I see them as one of the more sane religions. Certainly they have nothing on our evangelical Christians. And don't even get me started on the "magic gold plates that only I can read" Mormons.


Can we kick them out now? I'll put in $10 towards a boat and some hardtack. I should really make this a kickstarter project.
 
2012-11-08 11:07:10 AM  

Lord_Baull: Gaseous Anomaly: CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.

FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.


How would they explain a rejection of the Bible?


By fixing it.
 
2012-11-08 11:10:05 AM  
Read TFA. and wow, those poor precious babies. Life in the Fox News/Glenn Beck/Ann Coulter echo chamber must be really really hard for folks right now. How many times can a reality check bounce?
 
2012-11-08 11:11:02 AM  

heavymetal: Wow, the butthurt is worse than I thought. Of course if you think about it for a minute; since conservatives generally resist change they feel goes against "tradition", during the American Revolution conservatives were called "loyalists". So in reality, wanting to become subjects to the crown again is American conservatism in its purest form.


chawedrosin.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-08 11:11:37 AM  

odinsposse: Lord_Baull: Gaseous Anomaly: CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.

FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.


How would they explain a rejection of the Bible?

By fixing it.


River: So we'll integrate non-progressional evolution theory with God's creation of Eden. Eleven inherent metaphoric parallels already there. Eleven. Important number. Prime number. One goes into the house of eleven eleven times, but always comes out one. Noah's ark is a problem. We'll have to call it early quantum state phenomenon. Only way to fit 5000 species of mammal on the same boat.
 
2012-11-08 11:12:07 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: UNC_Samurai: CygnusDarius: Fart_Machine: So what are the odds one of these Freeper "patriots" takes a shot at the President?

On the one hand, they could only be venting. On the other hand, there could be one or two psychos in there.

/BTW
//Where's GaryPDX?

Permanent vacation. He was never here.

So he was Drew.


rarerborealis.com
 
2012-11-08 11:12:32 AM  

Gaseous Anomaly: Merry Sunshine: Texas isn't going anywhere. All of the population centers plus the Rio Grande Valley went for Obama.

/native Texan
//proud
///voted for Obama

Isn't that true more or less everywhere in the US? Cities are blue, rural areas are red.


I suppose. I'm just saying that Texas does not have the demographics for secession.
 
2012-11-08 11:13:52 AM  

odinsposse: Lord_Baull: Gaseous Anomaly: CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.

FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.


How would they explain a rejection of the Bible?

By fixing it.


Good lord. We should start a version of the Orange Catholic Bible...
 
2012-11-08 11:14:49 AM  

chopit: davideggy: The more I look around at the craziness of US evangelical Christians, the more I think England might have had a good point forcing the Pilgrims out. I used to think the Catholic Church was nuts. Now I see them as one of the more sane religions. Certainly they have nothing on our evangelical Christians. And don't even get me started on the "magic gold plates that only I can read" Mormons.

Can we kick them out now? I'll put in $10 towards a boat and some hardtack. I should really make this a kickstarter project.


I have thought for a long time that what they should do is set up a giant floatilla like those crazy evangelicals with the the viral mind disease in Snow Crash, and just live out on the ocean. They can derp all they want and they won't have to pay the ebil ebil gubmit any taxes for things like roads and education and infrastructure.

/Since you know, they won't listen to Reason.
 
2012-11-08 11:15:29 AM  
I say we give them Alaska, not Texas. It's the biggest state, but also one of the least populated, so there's plenty of room. Then they'll be Canada's neighbor, not ours. They can name Sarah Palin queen and even call their new country 'Republica', I think they'll like that!
 
2012-11-08 11:16:02 AM  

Aldon: Arkanaut: mrshowrules: Beaver1224: Since most or all of Europe, Canada, and Australia are more Left than the US; are there any countries out there that are to the Right (other than the Muslim theocracies)?

Excluding Canada and Australia, these countries: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Switzerland, Chile, Mauritius and Ireland.

Oh yeah, that's a good one. They can go and say they're friends of Augusto.

I was thinking they could try to go to Lebanon and join up with the Phalangists.

>ahem
Countries with universal health care (like obamacare)

Hong Kong 1993
Singapore 1993
New Zealand 1938
Switzerland 1994
Ireland 1977

I guess you still have the libertarian paradises of Chili and mauritius


Mauritius spend 8% of its GDP on financial stimulus after the 2008 Global Economic Crisis. That is nearly twice as much as Obama so I question how non-socialist they actually are. Plus, look at this picture showing the type of people the country's leadership associates with.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-08 11:17:45 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: odinsposse: Lord_Baull: Gaseous Anomaly: CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.

FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.


How would they explain a rejection of the Bible?

By fixing it.

Good lord. We should start a version of the Orange Catholic Bible...


But Mitt has already violated the stricture against having thinking machines.
 
2012-11-08 11:18:51 AM  
OK, I did something I rarely do and clicked on a Freeper link.

FTFA: we believed that our hard work would yield its own rewards without someone coming along and taking what we built in the name of "Fairness".

If "hard work" yielded rewards, then everyone who toiled behind the counter of a McDonald's would be a millionaire.
 
2012-11-08 11:19:35 AM  
I just bumped into one of these a$$wipes in a local shop. We used to live in the same area. We ended up on the same aisle. I saw him looking at me and I made the mistake of trying to be nice. I committed the horrific crime of saying "Hi, how are you?" I tried to steer the conversation to the non-controversial topic of baking cookies. I guess that was proof that I am a fascist-commie-socialist. After commenting that "it's not uncommon for American women to have five or six abortions", this guy started yelling at me and went old school racist in a public place. I walked out. I'm seriously regretting not waiting in the parking lot to cuss him out. I have always tried to be kind to this guy whenever I've bumped into him. Now, I know how much he appreciates my efforts.
 
2012-11-08 11:22:40 AM  

numb3r5ev3n: CapeFearCadaver: odinsposse: Lord_Baull: Gaseous Anomaly: CapeFearCadaver: Something's got to be done with them. They're going to start shooting people, bombing themselves into oblivion with homemade concoctions. Is there a way we can shut FNC down? They're becoming enemies of the State and I truly believe the crazy is only going to get worse.

FNC is a symptom, not the cause. To truly fix the problem you have to fix epistemic closure, the circular logic that allows reality bubbles to persist:

- Fact X, reported by source Y, contradicts conservative dogma.
- Solely because of this, source Y is liberally biased, and therefore not to be trusted.
- Repeat until nothing trustworthy contradicts conservative dogma.


How would they explain a rejection of the Bible?

By fixing it.

Good lord. We should start a version of the Orange Catholic Bible...

But Mitt has already violated the stricture against having thinking machines.


Well there you go! The beginnings of revolution have started!
 
2012-11-08 11:22:57 AM  

imontheinternet: heavymetal: Wow, the butthurt is worse than I thought. Of course if you think about it for a minute; since conservatives generally resist change they feel goes against "tradition", during the American Revolution conservatives were called "loyalists". So in reality, wanting to become subjects to the crown again is American conservatism in its purest form.

[chawedrosin.files.wordpress.com image 437x401]


Wrong Union Jack, dude. The so-called "Cross of St. Patrick" (the red stripes in the diagonal cross) wasn't part of it until 1801.

/That last "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie made the same mistake.
//I was there when the Queen visited GSFC; some well-intentioned person had the *old* Union Jack.
 
2012-11-08 11:23:09 AM  

soakitincider: debt is aproblem; do you think people should live outside of their means and rack up debt on credit cards? the government should not be operating in that way either.


Government debt (especially in a sovereign nation's own currency) is a completely different animal from personal debt. Among other things, national income is much more variable than a person's income typically is (and it grows as the economy grows).

Right now the world as a whole, and even the US economy itself (Google "deleveraging"; total US debt including government and the private sector is DOWN) wants to save on net - a good bit of this is from demographic transitions. The world financial system revolves around US government debt being a baseline safe place to save. (Other currencies and/or governments either have much bigger problems (e.g. the Euro) or aren't nearly big enough to soak up all of it (e.g. Switzerland)).

So there will always be a need for the US to have some debt. Is the current level of debt too high? The answer to that question is the opposite of the answer to the question "is the world willing to loan us arbitrarily large amounts of money at tiny-to-slightly-negative interest rates?"
 
2012-11-08 11:23:37 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-08 11:28:09 AM  

Znuh: And pretty much this:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/


That shiat was funny.
 
2012-11-08 11:28:21 AM  

TV's Vinnie: All this open butthurt just because the American People didn't want a corporate predator and an Ayn Rand fanatic to rule the country with an iron fist on orders from the Koch Brothers.
[hellgateguru.com image 550x150]

 
2012-11-08 11:28:50 AM  

The Great Gazoo: Only two days after the election and I'm Farking tired of the insinuation that everyone who voted Democratic is looking for a handout from the government.


And the ones saying that are the ones who don't want to pay any taxes, but want all the services that taxes pay for.
 
2012-11-08 11:36:36 AM  
Speaking of awesome, anyone have a link to the "Report Republicans" bumpersticker that another Farker made in the Election Night thread?

Too damn awesome not to actually print.
 
2012-11-08 11:42:10 AM  

Lutrasimilis: Almost Swiftian in its rapier-like subtlety.


Hey, if there's one thing Republicans know, it's rapiers.
 
2012-11-08 11:47:37 AM  

soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree


Cite one example please.
 
2012-11-08 11:50:25 AM  

Arkanaut: Lutrasimilis: Almost Swiftian in its rapier-like subtlety.

Hey, if there's one thing Republicans know, it's rapiers bayonettes.

 
2012-11-08 11:59:50 AM  

Znuh: And pretty much this:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

 

i117.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-08 12:00:11 PM  

chopit: Only way to fit 5000 species of mammal on the same boat.



Nah, easily explained with micro-evolution.
 
2012-11-08 12:02:04 PM  

HeartBurnKid: dywed88: doyner: BTW, the Dems PICKED UP seats in the House and Senate this year.

However it is true that the Democrats will probably lose the Senate in 2014 .... If the Teabaaggers don't gift wrap if for them, again.

I don't know about that. They were actually on the defending side in this election. 2014 is fairly evenly split; the Democrats have a couple more seats to defend than the Republicans, but not many.


Actually, 2008 was a year of modest gains in the Senate, so the Dems will have more to defend in 2014.
 
2012-11-08 12:02:40 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree

Cite one example please.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/15/us/immigration-deferred-deportation/ind e x.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-signs-executive-order - allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources
 
2012-11-08 12:02:43 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree

Cite one example please.



Pretty sure he decreed Catholics in the insurance industry must abide by the same business standards as non-Catholics.
 
2012-11-08 12:06:57 PM  

soakitincider: JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree

Cite one example please.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/15/us/immigration-deferred-deportation/ind e x.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-signs-executive-order - allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources


Just learning about the executive order, eh?
 
2012-11-08 12:07:26 PM  

soakitincider: http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-signs-executive-order - allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources


Bwahahahaaa!
First line of your link: On March 16th, President Obama signed a new Executive Order which expands upon a prior order issued in 1950 for Disaster Preparedness..."
 
2012-11-08 12:11:39 PM  

soakitincider: JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree

Cite one example please.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/15/us/immigration-deferred-deportation/ind e x.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-signs-executive-order - allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources



I offer you a list of presidents that ruled through decree.
 
2012-11-08 12:12:22 PM  

marcpen: So come on back to the motherlode, freepers. We can offer you a socialist welfare system with single payer health care, but totally free if you are poor. Free housing for the poor paid for by local taxes. Draconian gun control where even owning a handgun will get you five years, Legalised same-sex unions. A true 'State religion' although most of us are atheists. You'll fit right in.
Only joking. We don't want you.


If only you had a dental plan.
 
2012-11-08 12:20:51 PM  
[www.blogcdn.com image 850x372]

I think the worst part of this map is that we,being the US, were/are providing universal health care to Iraq and Afghanistan.
Soo good for people we conqure but um bad for our citizens?

LOLWUT?
 
2012-11-08 12:23:22 PM  

mrshowrules: Aldon: Arkanaut: mrshowrules: Beaver1224: Since most or all of Europe, Canada, and Australia are more Left than the US; are there any countries out there that are to the Right (other than the Muslim theocracies)?

Excluding Canada and Australia, these countries: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Switzerland, Chile, Mauritius and Ireland.

Oh yeah, that's a good one. They can go and say they're friends of Augusto.

I was thinking they could try to go to Lebanon and join up with the Phalangists.

>ahem
Countries with universal health care (like obamacare)

Hong Kong 1993
Singapore 1993
New Zealand 1938
Switzerland 1994
Ireland 1977

I guess you still have the libertarian paradises of Chili and mauritius

Mauritius spend 8% of its GDP on financial stimulus after the 2008 Global Economic Crisis. That is nearly twice as much as Obama so I question how non-socialist they actually are. Plus, look at this picture showing the type of people the country's leadership associates with.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x427]


Every country that is more economically libertarian than the USA is no place they would want to live (hint, even Chili isn't really more economically libertarian than us)...but try to get an Ayn Rand "libertarian" to admit that simple fact.


/countries more socially libertarian than us are a different matter.
 
2012-11-08 12:54:00 PM  

Lord_Baull: soakitincider: JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree

Cite one example please.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/15/us/immigration-deferred-deportation/ind e x.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-signs-executive-order - allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources


I offer you a list of presidents that ruled through decree.


using executive orders is the asshole backdoor method of getting what you want when the populace does not want that same thing. None of those presidents are justified in doing what they did. It's an action for assholes.
 
2012-11-08 12:55:40 PM  

LordJiro: The party is dying. But an elephant in its death throes is a dangerous thing; Hopefully, the American people can keep the damage to a minimum.


I like that metaphor. Old, delusional elephant reacting violently to change and destroying everything around it before falling over dead is just about right. Does Obamacare cover tranq guns?
 
2012-11-08 12:55:42 PM  
From the comments there:
"Barack was born in 1961, right? Kenya didn't get independence from Britain till 1963, right? Barack is British, who else would have the resources to forge his birth certificate if not the Queen of England?"

Dear god, he's onto something!

/I'm guessing cocaine.
 
2012-11-08 01:02:18 PM  

croesius: From the comments there:
"Barack was born in 1961, right? Kenya didn't get independence from Britain till 1963, right? Barack is British, who else would have the resources to forge his birth certificate if not the Queen of England?"

Dear god, he's onto something!

/I'm guessing cocaine.


That was me. See my comment above, I said the same thing here first and thought "I should say that on there and see what reaction I get". :P

Nothing so far :(

/But yeh, cocainebear.jpg.
 
2012-11-08 01:03:02 PM  
No matter how furious I was with the Bush Administration, I never slandered my home country. I questioned intentions and motives, but never threw the entire country under the bus. And I would have moved to a more liberal country, like the United Kingdom, Australia or Canada. I don't understand a conservative wanting to more to a more liberal country.

Those people are dumb. We should point and laugh at them.
 
2012-11-08 01:04:08 PM  

soakitincider: Lord_Baull: soakitincider: JusticeandIndependence: soakitincider: top of that obama rules through decree

Cite one example please.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/15/us/immigration-deferred-deportation/ind e x.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-signs-executive-order - allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources


I offer you a list of presidents that ruled through decree.

using executive orders is the asshole backdoor method of getting what you want when the populace does not want that same thing. None of those presidents are justified in doing what they did. It's an action for assholes.


Yes, how dare the president weasel his way in to designing the US flag and starting an investigation into the death of John F Kennedy!! These are issues Congress should argue about for months!!!
 
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